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http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/12/dorian-yates-on-his-steroid-use/
Weird, last time he was like 700mg/week test and 300mg/week deka? Does he lie? :D
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Who will believe a (top) pro Bber? Some gullible ones will think he sounds honest. Of course, the same ones thought for a second that Lee Priestīs claims sounded true back then.
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the other way to look at it would be, why would he lie now that he admitted use anyway?
Low dosing is the new natural. I only ran low dose, damn crazy good low dose genetics, bro...
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False, as false as the original MD article about his pre 93 O stack. He is just lying coherently.
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dorian = the real deal.
worked his ass off, considered eating his second job and took the least amount of juice that worked.
very Dante like.
anyone disagreeing hasn't been training all that long, is a complete wuss or has the genetic disposition of a grasshopper.
it's really not that hard: cycles for pennies.
stop making excuses and give props where they are due.
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I could believe that off-season, with the Dianabol added in, that's almost 2 grams. I don't believe it near contest time.
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Come on guys. We all know that eating is the key to growth.
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Yeah, Dorian was the real deal and also well known for his forgetfulness. Along with the Test and Deca, he forgot to mention the GH, Slin, Tren, Winstrol, Dbol, Anadrol, Equipoise, oh yeah and a whole list of diuretics and fatburners. Fucking liar.
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Watch the video....if he is lying, he is the worlds greatest liar.
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I could believe that off-season, with the Dianabol added in, that's almost 2 grams. I don't believe it near contest time.
That's off season, 140kg peak bodyweight.
Watch the friggin video man.
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Watch the video....if he is lying, he is the worlds greatest liar.
Or maybe you are the worlds most gullible man.
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That's off season, 140kg peak bodyweight.
Watch the friggin video man.
I did. I've seen SHW powerlifters eat, grow, and maintain decent conditioning(10-12 % bodyfat) on around 2 grm a week, so it doesn't strike me as outlandish, as far as steroids go. I also believe he is selectively lying about GH and insulin use.
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http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/12/dorian-yates-on-his-steroid-use/
Weird, last time he was like 700mg/week test and 300mg/week deka? Does he lie? :D
That's his daily dose
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whatever true or false, crazy how open they are talking
lol
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This was his cruising dose.
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This was his cruising dose.
nonono, you are little dog, dorian is rottweiler
that's why he big like monsta on your dosagen and u still small dog
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dorian = the real deal.
worked his ass off, considered eating his second job and took the least amount of juice that worked.
very Dante like.
anyone disagreeing hasn't been training all that long, is a complete wuss or has the genetic disposition of a grasshopper.
it's really not that hard: cycles for pennies.
stop making excuses and give props where they are due.
translation: I'm 15, been training 3 months and think I'll always be growing at 10lbs per month.
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Or maybe you are the worlds most gullible man.
So what was it closer to?
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a couple seconds after and he couldnt keep a straight face anymore at all the bs he just said
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funny ;D
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Its true, plenty of guys with good genetics can get over 260 in reasonable shape on that type of dosage, saying that pro bodybuilding and bodybuilding in general is full of guys with below par genetics trying to make up for their lack of genetics with excessive mgs. Dorian and ronnie types with their genetics could defiantly grow past the 260 mark with their type of genetic capability, sometimes the truth sucks.
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So what was it closer to?
Multiple grams.
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the other way to look at it would be, why would he lie now that he admitted use anyway?
*Cough*Lee Priest*Cough*
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Its true, plenty of guys with good genetics can get over 260 in reasonable shape on that type of dosage, saying that pro bodybuilding and bodybuilding in general is full of guys with below par genetics trying to make up for their lack of genetics with excessive mgs. Dorian and ronnie types with their genetics could defiantly grow past the 260 mark with their type of genetic capability, sometimes the truth sucks.
Ain't that the truth!
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Its true, plenty of guys with good genetics can get over 260 in reasonable shape on that type of dosage, saying that pro bodybuilding and bodybuilding in general is full of guys with below par genetics trying to make up for their lack of genetics with excessive mgs. Dorian and ronnie types with their genetics could defiantly grow past the 260 mark with their type of genetic capability, sometimes the truth sucks.
Really? Well I guess it all depends on what your definition of "reasonable shape" is. Back in the 80's it was rare to see anyone hit 260 and that was off season. The biggest guy on stage back then was the low 240's and that was Haney and he was a freak. So I guess all these guys who are walking around with average genetics at 260 plus on a 1000 mgs a week could have blown away guys like Haney and even Dorian in the early years. I guess Haney and must have been running around 400 mgs at week or so and even Dorian in his early years then he must have decided to go nuts and double the dose. ::)
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Yates isn't lying about anything......the guy keeps it real.
He is a straight shooter.
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Liaaaaarrrr!! Filt!!!!! This iz lejit kigtropona in vanes at hi doses!!! This my frendz iz hi dose leeeeejit kigtropina!!!! I tell yew this i look at fase and paper skin to tell yew lejjjit kigtropona in blood!!! Not at mgs like he clames!!! At hi doses in grams!!!! Thats rite GRAMS!!!!!! He iz liar!!!filt!!! Of hihest degree scaming duh yoot of bodybuilding!!!! He will pay heavie price and Liar of Jewduh will rein down instant sentansing!!!!
This liar!!!filt!!! Will live to be old age and become old man crippled then die!!! This is the judjment of Liar of Jewduh!!! So it will b dun!!
Liar of Jewduh
Chaos approved
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he claims nearly 2 grams when you factor un orals and he claims 8iu gh daily,
when he said no gh it was the translator that did not ask him the question properly, he says 8iu daily.
So this is what is expected he still has supplement line to uphold and his rep depends on it so this is the max he could admit without it hurting him in the business sense, so I apploud him for this and don't consider him scum for lying as anyone would in his position.
As for his actual dose, easily a gram a day and 30iu, anyone who does not buy this is not thinking this through properly.
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indeed, i know of people claiming with no shame theyre natural, while theyre on 2iu gh daily and 250mg test weekly year round for consecutive decades.haha
pathetic existence if you ask me
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Really? Well I guess it all depends on what your definition of "reasonable shape" is. Back in the 80's it was rare to see anyone hit 260 and that was off season. The biggest guy on stage back then was the low 240's and that was Haney and he was a freak. So I guess all these guys who are walking around with average genetics at 260 plus on a 1000 mgs a week could have blown away guys like Haney and even Dorian in the early years. I guess Haney and must have been running around 400 mgs at week or so and even Dorian in his early years then he must have decided to go nuts and double the dose. ::)
90%of Pro bodybuilders dont have the genetics for the sport and require huge dosages, where there are genetic freaks who can do it on a fraction. When you dont fit into the category it leaves you wanting to believe that drugs and use is the reason you are not Olympia class, not your lack of genetic disposition for the sport, sometimes the truth just hurts, Biggest change in body weights over last ten to fifteen years can be put down to insulin and higher dosages of HGH as it became less expensive and more available. In england when doz was taking 8iu per day it would have been costing him hundred quid a day. Now for that you can get 20to 30iu. Physiques are bigger but not better, mgs play their part, but so do genetics and those who have them can get further on a lot less.
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he claims nearly 2 grams when you factor un orals and he claims 8iu gh daily,
when he said no gh it was the translator that did not ask him the question properly, he says 8iu daily.
So this is what is expected he still has supplement line to uphold and his rep depends on it so this is the max he could admit without it hurting him in the business sense, so I apploud him for this and don't consider him scum for lying as anyone would in his position.
As for his actual dose, easily a gram a day and 30iu, anyone who does not buy this is not thinking this through properly.
Ding ! We have a winner ! End thread !
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Never get why these top pros lie so damn much about PED
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Ding ! We have a winner ! End thread !
why thank you sir ;)
What these people who believe these low numbers fail to understand is that while his genetics allow him to do way better then most on 1 and half grams per week, 5-7 grams will do more no matter how you slice it and no bodybuilder on the planet will do less if more = better results.
Common sense people, Dorian will do 5 times that amount for even a 20 percent improvement, any champion would. For the common fellow a 20 percent increase only for 5 times the dose may not be worth it but for the elite a 2 percent edge is worth it. THE TOP PROS WILL CRAWL THE DESERT AND DO ANYTHING IN THEIR POWER FOR THE SMALLEST MINUSCULE EDGE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. Of course Dorian did the absolute max his body could handle, of course, this is not even up for debate, wow, just wow, you people amaze me, wake the fuck up
oh btw a 20 percent increase in improvements by multiplying your dose by 5 is just a low ball example, realistically the results would be dramatically way higher.
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i seriously dont think he lies, he always came in chiseled to the bones, something that todays athletes dont, bc of more drugs and less strict dieting.
just because everyone thinks many gramms of test are needed to grow doesnt mean it is so for everyone.
some ppl experience the same growth from 750mg weekly and 2gramms weekly.at some oint, the sides take over.
maybe he only used as much as necasary.
i can believ this was his off season stack.obviously it is, i dounbt he dieted for contest on these drtugs.he robably upped the dosage for diets and changed drugs.
or maybe this was his cruising protocol,haha.
i can believe it, its not like 1.5gramms weekly is a low dosage.
I'm with you, I believe him.
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why thank you sir ;)
What these people who believe these low numbers fail to understand is that while his genetics allow him to do way better then most on 1 and half grams per week, 5-7 grams will do more no matter how you slice it and no bodybuilder on the planet will do less if more = better results.
Common sense people, Dorian will do 5 times that amount for even a 20 percent improvement, any champion would. For the common fellow a 20 percent increase only for 5 times the dose may not be worth it but for the elite a 2 percent edge is worth it. THE TOP PROS WILL CRAWL THE DESERT AND DO ANYTHING IN THEIR POWER FOR THE SMALLEST MINUSCULE EDGE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE. Of course Dorian did the absolute max his body could handle, of course, this is not even up for debate, wow, just wow, you people amaze me, wake the fuck up
oh btw a 20 percent increase in improvements by multiplying your dose by 5 is just a low ball example, realistically the results would be dramatically way higher.
Pretty much. You need to be a drug addict to be a top olympian.. I laugh at the people who think otherwise
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Lots of gullible dreamers in this thread! This is what's wrong with the Industry, the PROS lie, the media encourages it, Billions of dollars of useless supplements get sold, and the average Punter is too obsessed with Muscles to see through it. Only a young, inexperienced male would honestly believe the word of a PRO bodybuilder. It used to be that if questioned, DENY using at all, now the PROS realise the public are slowly catching up and KNOW they are using drugs, now when PROS are questioned, they minimise their use. It's all part of the conflict they suffer from, they know their lifestyle is terrible drug addicted affair, and they are conflicted about encouraging others to become bloated drug addicted muscle pigs. I hate to say it, but if you think these guys are taking a handful of stanozolol to look the way they do, you are a gullible and naive dreamer.
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I'm with you on this one.
They may have the best genetics but they will run as much as they can get their hands on.
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maybe he thinks steroids in russia are like protein powders in america
and thus talked openly
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=447322.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=447322.0)
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=447322.0 (http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=447322.0)
any other interesting parts in those videos?
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any other interesting parts in those videos?
06:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PY1VnOUd0U&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PY1VnOUd0U&feature=player_embedded)
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06:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PY1VnOUd0U&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PY1VnOUd0U&feature=player_embedded)
no kidding
lol
i meant any other interesting parts
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FILT.
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Liaaaaarrrr!! Filt!!!!! This iz lejit kigtropona in vanes at hi doses!!! This my frendz iz hi dose leeeeejit kigtropina!!!! I tell yew this i look at fase and paper skin to tell yew lejjjit kigtropona in blood!!! Not at mgs like he clames!!! At hi doses in grams!!!! Thats rite GRAMS!!!!!! He iz liar!!!filt!!! Of hihest degree scaming duh yoot of bodybuilding!!!! He will pay heavie price and Liar of Jewduh will rein down instant sentansing!!!!
This liar!!!filt!!! Will live to be old age and become old man crippled then die!!! This is the judjment of Liar of Jewduh!!! So it will b dun!!
Liar of Jewduh
Chaos approved
I thought you didn't have an account over there cankles?
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cant beleive there competitors on here who actualy agree and beleive him
ha ha ... he's such a fucking scumbag, if your not going to come clean dont say nothing at all, or give a mythical answer like they did in the 70's n 80's
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Bottom line is. NO ONE EXCEPT DORAIN HIMESELF KNOWS WHAT HE TAKES/TOOK. 100% of everything else is speculation, period. I have no clue what Dorian took because I am not him. I do know though that assuming every singe pro takes huge dosages is created by people being butthurt that they can get no where near that size. Like Tom Prince or not, he had a point when he said people don't want to believe it, they HAVE to believe it. That is the only way many can have peace in their head. I can't get anywhere near pro X's size. I train all day, eat right, take juice, and I still look like shit. Since there is no way I will ever admit to myself that I just don't have the genes to get huge and lean, I will simply make myself feel better by saying pro x spends 60k or whatever a year on drugs and I WOULD BE THAT HUGE TOO IF I COULD DO THAT.
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No pro will ever give you their exact drug stack. Maybe on their death bed but probably not even then. It's what gives them the edge. Everybody knows how to train and eat.
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I thought you didn't have an account over there cankles?
Are you saying that's a copy/paste, "big" std?
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http://www.allthingsgym.com/2012/12/dorian-yates-on-his-steroid-use/
Weird, last time he was like 700mg/week test and 300mg/week deka? Does he lie? :D
bulshit.
www.muscle-pharma.com
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Think he talking sh@t. He says in one part of interview steroids are only a small part , if you give a small dog steroids you have a little bit bigger dog, but if you give a rottweiler steroids it becomes huge.
Pic before he started training, hardly looks like naturally a rotweiller
(http://tnation.t-nation.com/forum_images/f/1/f15ef-Dorian_Yates_Before_and_After.jpg)
I think these people end up actually believing their own lies. Good Russian accent though!
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Bottom line is. NO ONE EXCEPT DORAIN HIMESELF KNOWS WHAT HE TAKES/TOOK. 100% of everything else is speculation, period. I have no clue what Dorian took because I am not him. I do know though that assuming every singe pro takes huge dosages is created by people being butthurt that they can get no where near that size. Like Tom Prince or not, he had a point when he said people don't want to believe it, they HAVE to believe it. That is the only way many can have peace in their head. I can't get anywhere near pro X's size. I train all day, eat right, take juice, and I still look like shit. Since there is no way I will ever admit to myself that I just don't have the genes to get huge and lean, I will simply make myself feel better by saying pro x spends 60k or whatever a year on drugs and I WOULD BE THAT HUGE TOO IF I COULD DO THAT.
this is exactly like saying '' no one knows if pamala anderson has breast implants but herself'' seriously you need a reality check bro.
and no one is butt hurt, in fact Dorian is my favorite bodybuilder of all time, he is the goat and he smashes Coleman so where is the hate and I love bodybuilding, so their goes your 'haters' theory down the toilet.
oh do you believe in santa as well?
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Is it wrong i just skip and read what "Disgusted" says...... (man you got a great "guru" who posts on get-big/prepped pros but you chose 2 ignore him?!?!!?) hmmmm
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Is it wrong i just skip and read what "Disgusted" says...... (man you got a great "guru" who posts on get-big/prepped pros but you chose 2 ignore him?!?!!?) hmmmm
Explain to me then how you KNOW what he took?
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Explain to me then how you KNOW what he took?
I have no fucking clue (but when a guy that actually "prepped" pro-bodybuilders talks..... ill listen)
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Why don't you nimrods tell us what Dorian actually used......since you seem to know so damn much.
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Why don't you nimrods tell us what Dorian actually used......since you seem to know so damn much.
Tell us what you used and we'll multiply it by two as he's twice your size.
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Why don't you nimrods tell us what Dorian actually used......since you seem to know so damn much.
If someone prep's pro bodybuilders, that's great and obviously they have some knowledge, but that still doesn't mean they know what Dorian took, or what pro x took unless they were the one that prepped them and even then it's not for sure. I guess that is the part I just don't understand. Dorian's, other pro cycles have been on the net for a long time ranging from small to so large they make you laugh. Dorian could have taken 20 grams a week, or a couple grams a week, or something in between. Point is its all speculation.
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Haha, the gurl doing the interview is so cute, she doesn't know a thing about drugs :-*
want to give her sum' testo straight from pipe.
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Tell us what you used and we'll multiply it by two as he's twice your size.
really......
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The Dante-esque bullshit is actually worse than straight up denial - I'd rather yates just dodged the question than picking what he probably thinks is a safe number for a regular trainer.
These guys will always lie in interviews because they never know who might be reading it - but the only one I ever talked to about doses was very straight forward about 5+ grams a week and 30ius a day .. didnt ask about slin but I assume thats the same high level.
I do wonder where they got the hgh from in those days though, its not like the UK was prescribing it to AIDs patients the way the US does
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Most blokes around here still think yates developed those lats because he used large amounts of gear.......the guy knew his body and trained in the proper fashion.....sure he used gear.....but i'll bet he didn't use as much as many here would think.
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Most blokes around here still think yates developed those lats because he used large amounts of gear.......the guy knew his body and trained in the proper fashion.....sure he used gear.....but i'll bet he didn't use as much as many here would think.
Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa .....great post dude ;D
oh wait, you're serious ?
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If someone prep's pro bodybuilders, that's great and obviously they have some knowledge, but that still doesn't mean they know what Dorian took, or what pro x took unless they were the one that prepped them and even then it's not for sure. I guess that is the part I just don't understand. Dorian's, other pro cycles have been on the net for a long time ranging from small to so large they make you laugh. Dorian could have taken 20 grams a week, or a couple grams a week, or something in between. Point is its all speculation.
Cut the bull shit bro, of course no one knows what he took exactly, we are not God, but anyone with a brain or an IQ above 50 knows that he was on the absolute maximum his body could handle. Champions in every field leave no stone unturned bro, there is no room for that at that level. 6 billion people on this planet the top guys in every field have top notch genetics for that field. There is no room for error or your first place will slip away.
What you are saying is equivalent to saying may Micheal Phelps trained 20 min a day for all his gold metals or maybe he trained the maximum you can train. Well obviously he trained the maximum, but I am just speculating right?
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Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa .....great post dude ;D
oh wait, you're serious ?
Groink......have you ever done anything in life.....other than act like a complete smart ass and know it all????
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Wow, who let out all the delusional dipshits?
The man was 5'10.5 260lbs at 3-4% bodyfat and over 300lbs offseason
Of course he was fucking drug monster at some point. You have to be.
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I don't know why people are so amazed at jabbing every 2 hrs, you have gym rats using GHRP peps jabbing these between 3-5 times a day, not including their GH and AAS jabs.
Don't think it's hard to believe that someone whose living is made out of being as big and lean as poss would jab 5 or 6 times day.
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1g test 400mg deca 8iu grade HGH, plus insulin along with consistent training and eating, if you cant hit 300lb off season shape, go bowling ;D
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1g test 400mg deca 8iu grade HGH, plus insulin along with consistent training and eating, if you cant hit 300lb off season shape, go bowling ;D
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Only the guys who rinse their beef, lift progressively heavy in a rest pause fashion, do extreme stretches after each set, eat 5000 calories a day, 1000 grams of protein with a carb cut off are the ones who can maintain 300 lbs on 250 mg test.
If your not doing the above you're not dedicated enough to be taking steroids anyway.
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I have a friend who is hooked on Oxy's. Sometimes he'll tell me that he only uses on the weekends. Other times he'll tell me that he's been using everyday for the past 5 years. Other times he'll tell me he's been clean for months. Bottom line people, drug addicts, regardless of the drugs being used are filthy liars.
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Whatever dosing Dorian is admitting to, cut it in half, then double it and double it again or three times and you will be closer to the truth.
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I have a friend who is hooked on Oxy's. Sometimes he'll tell me that he only uses on the weekends. Other times he'll tell me that he's been using everyday for the past 5 years. Other times he'll tell me he's been clean for months. Bottom line people, drug addicts, regardless of the drugs being used are filthy liars.
As a former addict, we are EXPERTS at lying, cheating and stealing. When i was at my WORST, i could lie to you and not blink! I would believe my lies! LOL
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Is it wrong i just skip and read what "Disgusted" says...... (man you got a great "guru" who posts on get-big/prepped pros but you chose 2 ignore him?!?!!?) hmmmm
Thank Mike seriously. I've never tried to BS anyone on here. One of my pet peeves though is when these guys lie. I would have ZERO problem if Dorian or Ronnie or any of these guys claimed natural. I have no problem if these guys don't want to admit to illegal drug us but once you do why lie? Back in the late 90's I knew a guy in the UK who knew Dorians GH supplier. Don't ask me how but I did. We talked about how Dorian was buying the GH "pen" that came with 30 iu's in them. Once they were reconsituted you had 24 hours to use them. He said that Dorian would use 15 iu's in the morning and the other at nite. Now, he could have said the next day as this was a long time ago but I'm pretty sure he said morning and nite.
When Dorian guest posed in Pittsburgh back in the late 90's I remember talking to an IFBB judge who said that Dorian didn't like using slin because he felt tired all the time. This is the extent of what I know about Dorian as far as I can remember. Some will say that only he knows what he took and to a degree this is true but he had to buy stuff from somewhere so someone has a reasonable degree of knowledge as to what he took. I for the life of me can't believe how some here don't think that he used all the other goodies that the rest were and are using.
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30iu pen in mid to early 90s, in the UK, no way. Dorians supplier was basically everyone of notes supplier, I can remember the brand but most HGH was 8 to 10 Iu boxes, and if you could afford it you took a box a day, most people a box every 5 days due to expense. HGH use and abuse increased as the expense came down over the late 90s and more so now, they all look like shit except for the genetically gifted few.
As for the other bullshit in this thread an amp every few hrs, please. Leroys aunties cousins sisters boyfriend said so.
Dorian was an anapolan man and yes pre contest he hammered it, but off season, he didnt take much more than what he says he did, hes not a bullshitter. Christ the man is just under 240 on TRT, no one denies that his mgs precontest would have been a lot higher, but off season you dont need grams and grams.
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Dorian rules! Not saying he was better than Ronnie on stage, but just plain like this guy.
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30iu pen in mid to early 90s, in the UK, no way. Dorians supplier was basically everyone of notes supplier, I can remember the brand but most HGH was 8 to 10 Iu boxes, and if you could afford it you took a box a day, most people a box every 5 days due to expense. HGH use and abuse increased as the expense came down over the late 90s and more so now, they all look like shit except for the genetically gifted few.
As for the other bullshit in this thread an amp every few hrs, please. Leroys aunties cousins sisters boyfriend said so.
Dorian was an anapolan man and yes pre contest he hammered it, but off season, he didnt take much more than what he says he did, hes not a bullshitter. Christ the man is just under 240 on TRT, no one denies that his mgs precontest would have been a lot higher, but off season you dont need grams and grams.
You obviously have not been around if you haven't heard of the GH pens. I don't give a rats ass about what you think Dorian took in the offseason. Dorian built his muscle with grams of drugs period and to say he was an Anapolin man well, he was an everything man. Combined with his work ethic and response to drugs you had a multiple Olympia winner.
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At some point the drug claims become a little unreasonable. 1 gram of injections a day? 30 IU GH a day? Really? Sounds kinda pricey.
I think if we were to approach the problem like an economist and figure how much drugs could the average pro use, based on likely income...kind of a "Freakonomics" thought exercise. Probably the truth would be somewhere in between the fan boys and the hard core cynics.
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Thank Mike seriously. I've never tried to BS anyone on here. One of my pet peeves though is when these guys lie. I would have ZERO problem if Dorian or Ronnie or any of these guys claimed natural. I have no problem if these guys don't want to admit to illegal drug us but once you do why lie? Back in the late 90's I knew a guy in the UK who knew Dorians GH supplier. Don't ask me how but I did. We talked about how Dorian was buying the GH "pen" that came with 30 iu's in them. Once they were reconsituted you had 24 hours to use them. He said that Dorian would use 15 iu's in the morning and the other at nite. Now, he could have said the next day as this was a long time ago but I'm pretty sure he said morning and nite.
When Dorian guest posed in Pittsburgh back in the late 90's I remember talking to an IFBB judge who said that Dorian didn't like using slin because he felt tired all the time. This is the extent of what I know about Dorian as far as I can remember. Some will say that only he knows what he took and to a degree this is true but he had to buy stuff from somewhere so someone has a reasonable degree of knowledge as to what he took. I for the life of me can't believe how some here don't think that he used all the other goodies that the rest were and are using.
This isn't the first time I have heard this either about the GH. Pretty sure Paul Borreson said something very similar about Dorian in one of his books.
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At some point the drug claims become a little unreasonable. 1 gram of injections a day? 30 IU GH a day? Really? Sounds kinda pricey.
I think if we were to approach the problem like an economist and figure how much drugs could the average pro use, based on likely income...kind of a "Freakonomics" thought exercise. Probably the truth would be somewhere in between the fan boys and the hard core cynics.
A good friend of mine ran 800 mgs daily for years. Another friend was running 20 to 30 ius GH for a while. He would take breaks when he had to mainly for finanacial reasons. He also mentioned to me he had bone pain at that dosage for the first couple weeks.
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At some point the drug claims become a little unreasonable. 1 gram of injections a day? 30 IU GH a day? Really? Sounds kinda pricey.
I think if we were to approach the problem like an economist and figure how much drugs could the average pro use, based on likely income...kind of a "Freakonomics" thought exercise. Probably the truth would be somewhere in between the fan boys and the hard core cynics.
You're joking right? a gram a day and 30iu is less then 400 dollars a week, ya real pricey for Mr. Olympia.
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i thought some of you fellas were playing along, but some of you honestly believe this shite?
my training partner from a few year back got an off season cycle off a multiple mr universe, this kid was just getting his feet on the competitive ladder... i cant remember the exact thing, but what stood out was 2 amps of sus per day + others
now if this top universe winner from the same era as mr yates perscribed that for a non pro.... come on brothers, fucking wake up
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A good friend of mine ran 800 mgs daily for years. Another friend was running 20 to 30 ius GH for a while. He would take breaks when he had to mainly for finanacial reasons. He also mentioned to me he had bone pain at that dosage for the first couple weeks.
so what did he run at 800mg and day and how awesome did he look in da end ? :)
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thats where you guys are wrong...what he was meaning to say is that is what he is currently on as hrt! ::)
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I know so many in L.A. that took 18 i.u. of Sero daily.
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Thank Mike seriously. I've never tried to BS anyone on here. One of my pet peeves though is when these guys lie. I would have ZERO problem if Dorian or Ronnie or any of these guys claimed natural. I have no problem if these guys don't want to admit to illegal drug us but once you do why lie? Back in the late 90's I knew a guy in the UK who knew Dorians GH supplier. Don't ask me how but I did. We talked about how Dorian was buying the GH "pen" that came with 30 iu's in them. Once they were reconsituted you had 24 hours to use them. He said that Dorian would use 15 iu's in the morning and the other at nite. Now, he could have said the next day as this was a long time ago but I'm pretty sure he said morning and nite.
When Dorian guest posed in Pittsburgh back in the late 90's I remember talking to an IFBB judge who said that Dorian didn't like using slin because he felt tired all the time. This is the extent of what I know about Dorian as far as I can remember. Some will say that only he knows what he took and to a degree this is true but he had to buy stuff from somewhere so someone has a reasonable degree of knowledge as to what he took. I for the life of me can't believe how some here don't think that he used all the other goodies that the rest were and are using.
Hasn't it been said that Haney quit in his early 30's because he couldn't believe the doses guys like Dorian were using?
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At some point the drug claims become a little unreasonable. 1 gram of injections a day? 30 IU GH a day? Really? Sounds kinda pricey.
I think if we were to approach the problem like an economist and figure how much drugs could the average pro use, based on likely income...kind of a "Freakonomics" thought exercise. Probably the truth would be somewhere in between the fan boys and the hard core cynics.
People at the top have sponsors and side deals and cronies who just want to hang out with them.
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Why is Dorian using a phoney Russian accent in the video - thats just weird... and of course hes lying.