Clinton ahead in Washington Post poll

[Dos Equis]

Liberals never learn.  They're going to send another loser into the general election. 

Sunday, January 21, 2007
Clinton ahead in Washington Post poll
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- Sen. Hillary Clinton holds a large early lead over other top candidates in the race for the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination, said a national poll reported Sunday in The Washington Post.

New York's Clinton was the favorite of 41 percent of Democrats polled, more than double the 17-percent, second-place rating scored by Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Post said.

Former Sen. John Edwards, the 2004 vice presidential nominee, placed third at 11 percent, with former Vice President Al Gore at 10 percent. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry, the 2004 presidential nominee, came in at 8 percent.

The poll was taken before Clinton announced her candidacy on Saturday. Obama entered the race on Tuesday and Edwards jumped in last month.

The Post said in hypothetical general election matchups of Clinton and top Republican candidates, the former first lady "narrowly leads Arizona Sen. John McCain and is running about even with former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani."

The Washington Post-ABC News poll was a Jan. 16-19 random sample of 1,000 adults, including 561 Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents, with a 3 percentage point error margin.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/01/clinton-ahead-in-washington-post-poll.html

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Liberals never learn.  They're going to send another loser into the general election. 

They're gonna send a white male.   Gore loses ten pounds and he gets the job.  Kerry put his foot in his mouth but thanks to his college affiliation he could easily get it again.  Edwards is naive and silly but could win it.  I think the Richardson/Obama/Hilary novelty will be a VP choice.

Also, while I didn't vote for Kerry, it would take a complete idiot to look at the exit poll anomalies and e-machine fraud evidence to say the Dems even lost in 2004.  Seriously, the republicans have continually sued for over 2 years to prevent those votes in OH from being recount. 

Allow me to pre-empt any eye rolls and insults by calling anyone who doesn't understand this a non-statistics-understanding-twunt.









Twunt.

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[Hedgehog]

They're gonna send a white male.   Gore loses ten pounds and he gets the job.  Kerry put his foot in his mouth but thanks to his college affiliation he could easily get it again.  Edwards is naive and silly but could win it.  I think the Richardson/Obama/Hilary novelty will be a VP choice.

Also, while I didn't vote for Kerry, it would take a complete idiot to look at the exit poll anomalies and e-machine fraud evidence to say the Dems even lost in 2004.  Seriously, the republicans have continually sued for over 2 years to prevent those votes in OH from being recount. 

Allow me to pre-empt any eye rolls and insults by calling anyone who doesn't understand this a non-statistics-understanding-twunt.









Twunt.

Why don't they just allow the re-count?

It would settle it.

It's just stupid to block something like that.

-Hedge

[Mr. Intenseone]

if Hillary gets in we'll be in a war I figure every 28 days or so and that doesn't even include her PMS!

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Why don't they just allow the re-count?

It would settle it.

It's just stupid to block something like that.

There was statistically a 1 in 50,000 chance that Bush would win the election, based upon the exit polls.  

There were "malfunctions" where many machines in key districts all went down at once, and the Diebold employees (after their CEO vowed he would put Bush in office in a letter to stockholders) went in and worked on things for 90 minutes.  

Then the results were posted and Bush had won by huge margins in those precincts, where the exit polls all had him losing big.

They had paper votes as backups, and a count of those would have either confirmed this statistical anomaly (the exit polls were accurate as always in every other state except FL, where this identical thing happened).

Dems asked for a recount, but repubs sued to have them sealed.  Then repubs ordered them destroyed.  Dems sued to have destroying stopped.  Currently stopped, caught in court.

There was a 1 in 50,000 chance the e-voting would swing in this manner.  And it happened.  And even greater odds in FL.  And it happened.  

Anyone who doesn't want a recount is a fucking traitor to democracy.  If it happens in 2008, and Hilary steal the election from mcCain, perhaps those republicans will START giving a shit that the political process has been hijacked.

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if Hillary gets in we'll be in a war I figure every 28 days or so and that doesn't even include her PMS!

How many vietnam-style stalemates costing 3000 lives did Bill Clinton get us into again?

[Hedgehog]

if Hillary gets in we'll be in a war I figure every 28 days or so and that doesn't even include her PMS!

Hahaha.


Damnit, you SOB, you're even starting to consider voting for that fcuker apparently...

Remember, it was her husband that had a decent run in office, not her. Don't vote Hillary thinking it's some kind of Bill Clinton re-run.

The same way GWB was no George Bush Sr...

-Hedge

[Dos Equis]

No PMS.  Menopause? 

[Dos Equis]

Anyone who doesn't want a recount is a fucking traitor to democracy.  If it happens in 2008, and Hilary steal the election from mcCain, perhaps those republicans will START giving a shit that the political process has been hijacked.

Must be a lot of traitors out there, because I don't hear any mainstream leaders/laypeople, Democrat or Republican, calling for a recount. 

[Hedgehog]

No PMS.  Menopause? 

You're both wrong...

Multiple personality disorder!!!

-Zack

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Must be a lot of traitors out there, because I don't here any mainstream leaders/laypeople, Democrat or Republican, calling for a recount. 

Statistically, the chance of those results occurring as that in both states is in the billions...

Politically, the CEO of the voter machine company telling his people he intended to deliver the election to Bush...

Logistically, the "machine downs" right after the polls closed, requiring a team of specialists to come in and fix things and those very precincts showing the huge swings which gave Bush the election...


...if you, as an American, do not believe there is enough evidence here that the democratic process may have been skewed and there should be a recount, then you do not respect this country.

period.

[Dos Equis]

Statistically, the chance of those results occurring as that in both states is in the billions...

Politically, the CEO of the voter machine company telling his people he intended to deliver the election to Bush...

Logistically, the "machine downs" right after the polls closed, requiring a team of specialists to come in and fix things and those very precincts showing the huge swings which gave Bush the election...


...if you, as an American, do not believe there is enough evidence here that the democratic process may have been skewed and there should be a recount, then you do not respect this country.

period.

Funny how millions of Americans don't believe there is "enough evidence."  They're silent.  The sane ones anyway.  Congress is silent.  The mainstream media is silent.  Is this the CIA at work again?

This is one of the funny things about these whacked out conspiracy theories.  People who ridicule (or in this case accuse people of being "traitors") if you DON'T believe this nonsense.  Just downright silly.   

[Mr. Intenseone]

How many vietnam-style stalemates costing 3000 lives did Bill Clinton get us into again?

Vietnam??

You can't compare ANY war to the likes of this!

[ekto62]

Funny how millions of Americans don't believe there is "enough evidence."  They're silent.  The sane ones anyway.  Congress is silent.  The mainstream media is silent.  Is this the CIA at work again?

No, just the same kind of supineness that got us into a war based on non-existent WMD.  Most Americans at least appear to be more interested in college football than in what's been going on the past 6 years.  Of course, 3000 of us aren't going to get see any more bowl games . . .

Now, I don't have a *clue* as to what a recount would prove (I'm no statistician), but if there's nothing there, why not allow the recount, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

[Mr. Intenseone]

No, just the same kind of supineness that got us into a war based on non-existent WMD.  Most Americans at least appear to be more interested in college football than in what's been going on the past 6 years.  Of course, 3000 of us aren't going to get see any more bowl games . . .

Now, I don't have a *clue* as to what a recount would prove (I'm no statistician), but if there's nothing there, why not allow the recount, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

Oh brother...not another one!

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Oh brother...not another one!

Joe, if an independent legal group requested a recount of those locked up votes, offered to pay for the entire recount and would donate $10 million to our troops families also...

would you support it?

[Dos Equis]

No, just the same kind of supineness that got us into a war based on non-existent WMD.  Most Americans at least appear to be more interested in college football than in what's been going on the past 6 years.  Of course, 3000 of us aren't going to get see any more bowl games . . .

Now, I don't have a *clue* as to what a recount would prove (I'm no statistician), but if there's nothing there, why not allow the recount, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm???

   If there's nothing there then a recount at tax payer's expense is unnecessary.  The fact that normal people aren't talking about this speaks volumes. 

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  If there's nothing there then a recount at tax payer's expense is unnecessary.  The fact that normal people aren't talking about this speaks volumes. 

Right.  After all, the average American is well-informed on political issues and understands statistics.


Um...

[Dos Equis]

Right.  After all, the average American is well-informed on political issues and understands statistics.


Um...

I see.  So the American public, all of Congress, and the entire mainstream media is too stupid to figure this conspiracy out.  Geeze Louise. 

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I see.  So the American public, all of Congress, and the entire mainstream media is too stupid to figure this conspiracy out.  Geeze Louise. 

There's no conspiracy, you label-happy little man.

The emachine results do not match the exit polls.

[Dos Equis]

There's no conspiracy, you label-happy little man.

The emachine results do not match the exit polls.

lol.  O.K.  No conspiracy.     Doesn't it suck to be one of the few people in the country to know about all these conspiracies?  It's gotta be lonely. 

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lol.  O.K.  No conspiracy.     Doesn't it suck to be one of the few people in the country to know about all these conspiracies?  It's gotta be lonely. 

It would suck more to be unaware of just how many people are aware of the truth of events