Author Topic: RG3 (Read 30296 times)

Coach is Back! · « **on:** April 28, 2012, 06:44:27 PM »

695lbs squat at 1:30? QB's now a days are freaks. Devon97, help me out with this one!!

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No Patience · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2012, 06:54:08 PM »

holy fuck...he squatted that like nothing...some people are so gifted...he looks skinny but his thighs look large

i could never get squats to feel natural...always felt awkward and i am 5'9 which you would think would work perfect...now i wont touch them with a herniated L5

Twaddle · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2012, 06:58:07 PM »

No way in hell that was 695. I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being. However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing. If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800. Horse shit!!!!!

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #3 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:04:40 PM »

Quote from: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 06:58:07 PM

No way in hell that was 695. I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being. However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing. If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800. Horse shit!!!!!

He's using a yolk bar, it won't bend and Athletes Performance is legit. No bullshit in that video. I've been to the one by me in Carson at the Home Depot Center.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #4 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:05:42 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on April 28, 2012, 07:00:31 PM

on mentals alone.... he's gonna be better than Luck.

I think you maybe correct. Luck is a freak as well.

Obvious Gimmick · « **Reply #5 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:08:34 PM »

All jar jar binks

240 is Back · « **Reply #6 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:13:06 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 28, 2012, 07:05:42 PM

I think you maybe correct. Luck is a freak as well.

luck is a genetic freak and will be durable. RG3 may get hurt, true.

but mentally, RG3 has that kobe mentality... like that wolf look in his eye. He'd curb stomp someone, step on the neck to finish em. Luck looks soft, grew up rich and always knew he'd be nfl royalty. not hungry and desperate for it like RG3.

Montague · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:13:24 PM »

Quote from: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 06:58:07 PM

No way in hell that was 695. I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being. However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing. If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800. Horse shit!!!!!

I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.

chunkramwell · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:15:13 PM »

Dat posterior chain

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #9 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:31:54 PM »

Quote from: Montague on April 28, 2012, 07:13:24 PM

I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.

Every person i've ever seen use a yoke bar could use easily 200+ more pounds. You don't even have to worry about the weight on the shoulders and you can use your arms to pull yourself up in the cage. Anyone who can squat in the 400's can put over 600 with a yoke bar. Hell with the padding, you can't even feel in on your shoulders.

claymore · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:32:15 PM »

Quote from: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 06:58:07 PM

No way in hell that was 695. I'm not taking anything away from RG3, he's 10 times the athlete I could ever dream of being. However, that bar stayed stiff the entire time, and he pushed it up like nothing. If he's really doing 695 with that much ease, his true 1 rep max is probably close to 800. Horse shit!!!!!

Agreed

Twaddle · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:38:10 PM »

Quote from: Montague on April 28, 2012, 07:13:24 PM

I see your points, but that's a Hatfield bar, and they don't flex under heavier loads the way a "normal" bar does.
Also, the biomechanics of the movement are slightly, but noticeably different when using that bar. I was always able to use a lot more weight with it than a straight bar; and I was never a serious leg guy.

Still a very impressive lift.

I'm still calling BS. I went back and watched the video. They show 695, and he says 695, and then they show a different frame. I don't think he's got 695 on the bar when he's lifting. I can't tell, but it looks like 5-6 plates that he's actually lifting. Watch RG3's lift again, he goes down, grunts, and then throws it up so fast, it bounces at the top. For frame of reference, here's IFBB pro Tim Martin doing 700 x 1 on the hatfield, and he's having much more trouble than RG3.

claymore · « **Reply #12 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:42:49 PM »

695 would fold him in half...I promise, real bar, hatfield bar...whatever.

K-1 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:48:47 PM »

Alot of people need to visit football HS/college locker rooms. In HS we had guys doing insane lifts...in HS. I hit 500 squat no prob at 185-200lbs 5'11". 410 bench but couldn't power clean for shit past 225lbs during Iron Man Day (Max Day for football players).

Had a WR at 175lbs 6 feet that could power clean 315lbs as smooth as I ever seen. we had guys 300lbs that couldn't do it.

Some guys (football) are just cocky like that.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #14 on:** April 28, 2012, 07:59:04 PM »

Quote from: K-1 on April 28, 2012, 07:48:47 PM

In HS we had guys doing insane lifts...in HS. I hit 500 squat no prob at 185-200lbs 5'11". 410 bench

That's amazing! You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

K-1 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:02:27 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on April 28, 2012, 07:59:04 PM

That's amazing! You were less than two pounds short of the USAPL squat record and blew away the bench record by nearly 30 pounds!!

http://www.goheavy.net/records/viewrecordset.aspx?recordsetguid=f220e072-3e38-4f58-9462-762836cf20bb

I know you are trying to be sarcastic, but in HS or college nobody gives a shit about lifting records. It's all locker room Iron man shit. Being the strongest guy in a certain lift or overall points on the team.

Like I said....go visit a HS or College locker room....you will see some insane shit.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #16 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:06:32 PM »

Quote from: claymore on April 28, 2012, 07:42:49 PM

695 would fold him in half...I promise, real bar, hatfield bar...whatever.

So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?

Hulkotron · « **Reply #17 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:07:12 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 28, 2012, 08:06:32 PM

So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?

Hey Coach how many highschoolers have you seen squat 500 and bench 410?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:09:52 PM »

Quote from: Twaddle on April 28, 2012, 07:38:10 PM

I'm still calling BS. I went back and watched the video. They show 695, and he says 695, and then they show a different frame. I don't think he's got 695 on the bar when he's lifting. I can't tell, but it looks like 5-6 plates that he's actually lifting. Watch RG3's lift again, he goes down, grunts, and then throws it up so fast, it bounces at the top. For frame of reference, here's IFBB pro Tim Martin doing 700 x 1 on the hatfield, and he's having much more trouble than RG3.

You cannot compare a legit strength program to someone on gear. if anything it weighs itself out. If the dude thats on a ton of gear is getting 700 imagine what he would do on a sound strength program. Do you know the difference between a bodybuilding program and a strength program?

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:10:40 PM »

Quote from: chunkramwell on April 28, 2012, 07:15:13 PM

Dat posterior chain

THIS has a lot to do with it.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:16:10 PM »

Quote from: Hulkotron on April 28, 2012, 08:07:12 PM

Hey Coach how many highschoolers have you seen squat 500 and bench 410?

I have 3 squatting 500 off a 14" box. One is a 195lb running back. I have one 270lb lineman benching 395lbs. Two are Juniors.

RadOncDoc · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:38:41 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on April 28, 2012, 07:13:06 PM

Luck looks soft, grew up rich and always knew he'd be nfl royalty.

Hmmm sounds like peyton and eli manning, and I think that's worked out pretty well.

claymore · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:40:21 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 28, 2012, 08:06:32 PM

So you're saying the video is fake? the plates are fake?

No...I just have a hard time believing RG can squat 695. He's one hell of an athlete and I'm not trying to hate on him at all.

20inch calves · « **Reply #23 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:03:19 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on April 28, 2012, 08:09:52 PM

You cannot compare a legit strength program to someone on gear. if anything it weighs itself out. If the dude thats on a ton of gear is getting 700 imagine what he would do on a sound strength program. Do you know the difference between a bodybuilding program and a strength program?

coach i cant believe that this is comin from you $:-\$

240 is Back · « **Reply #24 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:05:28 PM »

the sports clinic he's working with there -

Their entire job is to overhype an athlete and make him look bigger and faster and stronger.

So yeah, a little creative editing to make ppl think he's moving that kind of weight is cool and all, but NFL scouts roll their eyes at that shit. They know how big and strong a dude has to be to move that tmuch weight.