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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: theworm on February 12, 2009, 07:33:25 PM
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Most of you are not going pro or even doing a show
why spend more money on things like deca, etc, when you can get the gym rat body by doing a gram of test a week... less cost, few sides, great gains...
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well each testostorone derived steroid has different qualities and stacking different ones together makes like a compound effect i.e the combinations somehow amplify the others effects,,,,, "one is doing this, the other is doing that and because this one is doing this it causes that",,,,,,, haha cat in the hat
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still does not answer the question. i know about the synergistic effects, but combining hundred of dollars of deca with some test may give you a few more pounds...maybe..
but, 1 gram of test a week is all anyone on here needs
ALSO, most of the deca you buy on he black market is probably underdosed test!
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hows that when you have co. like organon that has deca
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well look at it in a legal way you would stack methyl 1-d with mythyl masterdrol and a tests stimulator but if you take just one of them it wont do hardly shit
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i know about HG deca, just saying the extra money for it is not worth it. why spend all that for a few extra pounds?
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still does not answer the question. i know about the synergistic effects, but combining hundred of dollars of deca with some test may give you a few more pounds...maybe..
well you answered your own question and it is a "testostorone derived drug" meaning TEST
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i did not answer my own question... let me try to explain it a little different.
adding 600 bucks of deca to a test cycle may give you 5-10more pounds over 15 weeks...is all that money worth the few pounds?
and for what? to walk around the gym with bigger arms? all i am saying is that people on here probably only need test, and don;t need to get fancy with all these complicated expensice stacks... i am sure div will disagree though, but he has his agenda.
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not everyone on this board just want to parade around in the gym with just bigger arms some use different ones for their different qualities you wont just run test to harden up nore just to bulk up im done with this one its a ridiculious question just take your test...... and if you are spending 600 dollars for deca hollar at me next time you need something cause i would make a killing off of you
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i still think MOST people on here just want to get big and not "lean up." I have found test only to make me have very lean hard looking gains... maybe cuase i use an AI or have a fast metobolism...
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Most of you are not going pro or even doing a show
why spend more money on things like deca, etc, when you can get the gym rat body by doing a gram of test a week... less cost, few sides, great gains...
"gym rat body"?
What the fuck does that mean?
I'm more like a gorilla than a rat if we're talking animals.
BusyB has seen me in person.....I'm not exactly a gym rat type.
It depends on the goals of the indvidual that determiens what stacks they use.
For optimal growth, it's best to stack Test with other anabolics and Deca is great for adding mass.
DIV
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i know deca is great at adding mass, i just don;t think it looks good in the cost-benefit ratio
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i know deca is great at adding mass, i just don;t think it looks good in the cost-benefit ratio
If you are severely depressed from Deca, you might be right.
I think it all depends on what you want.
Most of my stacks are based on: Test/Winstrol.
I might throw in Halo somtimes.
If I do a Test/Deca cycle, I'll be ready for the bloat and deca-dick that will come with it.
DIV
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finally someone comes on on this one
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1 gram of test a week is all anyone on here needs
well technically nobodoy on here needs any testosterone at all.
its not about need its about optimization
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Is deca dick unavoidable???? I though if you stack it with test you will not have that problem?
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i know deca is great at adding mass, i just don;t think it looks good in the cost-benefit ratio
Deca is not what necessarily causes a bad look. You can use it for pre-contest very effectively.
I've never used it on a diet but I've had several of guys I've trained do it and they turned out great.
As for your main question. It's just one of those things of life. You're right, there is probably not one guy on here that will turn pro...the odds are very, very slim.
But look at it like this.
If I by an expensive sports car, that doesn't mean I am going to be a race car driver...I just like driving fast in a nice car. If I buy a set of really nice golf clubs that actually help me play better, doesn't mean I'm looking to join the PGA, it just means I like golf and want to play my best.
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If I by an expensive sports car, that doesn't mean I am going to be a race car driver...I just like driving fast in a nice car. If I buy a set of really nice golf clubs that actually help me play better, doesn't mean I'm looking to join the PGA, it just means I like golf and want to play my best.
I was going to chime in on this thread until I read this. Nothing else to say about this subject, that sums it up.
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deca is not that much more $$$ than test. and since you will be taking LESS of it, they even out. a lot of people take it strictly for joint health too, which can help with heavy weights
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Deca is not what necessarily causes a bad look. You can use it for pre-contest very effectively.
I've never used it on a diet but I've had several of guys I've trained do it and they turned out great.
As for your main question. It's just one of those things of life. You're right, there is probably not one guy on here that will turn pro...the odds are very, very slim.
But look at it like this.
If I by an expensive sports car, that doesn't mean I am going to be a race car driver...I just like driving fast in a nice car. If I buy a set of really nice golf clubs that actually help me play better, doesn't mean I'm looking to join the PGA, it just means I like golf and want to play my best.
If Kamali can do it, ALOT of people can do it.
With his training style and bad diet, I'm sure there's many who can carve a niche out like he did.
Now what that "niche" is, I don't know. ???
DIV
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i would rather put my hard earned money to looking better than waste my money on drinking and partying like most guys my age. do what makes you happy, if training and trying to achieve a certain look is what drives you, stack away
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i would rather put my hard earned money to looking better than waste my money on drinking and partying like most guys my age. do what makes you happy, if training and trying to achieve a certain look is what drives you, stack away
I agree.
Save your liver for the 17AA orals. ;D
DIV
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If Kamali can do it, ALOT of people can do it.
With his training style and bad diet, I'm sure there's many who can carve a niche out like he did.
Now what that "niche" is, I don't know. ???
DIV
There was a time when Kamali didn't look too bad...he had some high points at one time, but it was a short ride so to speak.
Long live the King
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would you mind posting up your diet for comparison ?
The diet you posted sounds an awful lot like a contest diet.
DIV is not a BB and does not aspire to be one so this is a bad example. DIV will never eat Asparagus :)
What is Kamali's off season diet like is the question.
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The diet you posted sounds an awful lot like a contest diet.
DIV is not a BB and does not aspire to be one so this is a bad example. DIV will never eat Asparagus :)
What is Kamali's off season diet like is the question.
that is his offseaosn diet, with a cheat meal the first and last mean every third day.
and how is it a bad example? and how does the diet differ for div because hes not a bodybuilder? and why wouldnt a powerlifter eat asparagus (i assume you just mean 'veggies' in general) ?
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There was a time when Kamali didn't look too bad...he had some high points at one time, but it was a short ride so to speak.
Long live the King
Kamali was massive at one point, but he regressed.....
I have no idea why.
I've seen training tapes of his and they aren't that great.
His form is some of the shittiest I've ever seen.......and he relies on cheats like the Smith Machine way too much.
Then again, you could say that about alot of bodybuilders.
The diet you posted sounds an awful lot like a contest diet.
DIV is not a BB and does not aspire to be one so this is a bad example. DIV will never eat Asparagus :)
What is Kamali's off season diet like is the question.
In order to have a season, you have to be a bodybuilder.
I'm a lifter.......plain and simple.
Dieting down for a contest is not something I ever plan on doing.
DIV
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Kamali was massive at one point, but he regressed.....
I have no idea why.
I've seen training tapes of his and they aren't that great.
His form is some of the shittiest I've ever seen.......and he relies on cheats like the Smith Machine way too much.
Then again, you could say that about alot of bodybuilders.
In order to have a season, you have to be a bodybuilder.
I'm a lifter.......plain and simple.
Dieting down for a contest is not something I ever plan on doing.
DIV
kamali is still massive and that diet is what he eats right now in "the offseason"... how is his diet shit ? whats your diet ?
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kamali is still massive and that diet is what he eats right now in "the offseason"... how is his diet shit ? whats your diet ?
Are you a kamali fan, now, tbombz? ::)
You strike me one of those types.
Dumb enough with room to grow....
DIV
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Are you a kamali fan, now, tbombz? ::)
You strike me one of those types.
Dumb enough with room to grow....
DIV
thats your diet ?
ive never heard of any of those foods... you even eat a food called "tbombz" :D ?
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No way is that an off season diet for him. I have seen some clips from his videos, granted, they were earlier years and he was not eating that clean.
Maybe now, who knows, but I would be surprised if he ate that clean and with only a couple cheat meals.
By the way, was kidding about DIV and asparagus. All he ever talks to me about is steaks and pizza so I dont know his vegatables of choice! :D
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No way is that an off season diet for him. I have seen some clips from his videos, granted, they were earlier years and he was not eating that clean.
Maybe now, who knows, but I would be surprised if he ate that clean and with only a couple cheat meals.
By the way, was kidding about DIV and asparagus. All he ever talks to me about is steaks and pizza so I dont know his vegatables of choice! :D
He doesn't eat clean.......
He's one of those guys who pushes the envelope in terms of letting the AAS work for him in terms of diet.
I eat clean meats.....sirloins usually, chicken......and the occasional wheat pizza from Nello's.
DIV
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If you are severely depressed from Deca, you might be right.
I think it all depends on what you want.
Most of my stacks are based on: Test/Winstrol.
I might throw in Halo somtimes.
If I do a Test/Deca cycle, I'll be ready for the bloat and deca-dick that will come with it.
DIV
WTF is deca-dick?
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WTF is deca-dick?
Read the forum, son.
DIV
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He doesn't eat clean.......
He's one of those guys who pushes the envelope in terms of letting the AAS work for him in terms of diet.
I eat clean meats.....sirloins usually, chicken......and the occasional wheat pizza from Nello's.
DIV
so you eat sirloin chicken and pizza....
his diet is alot better than yours
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so you eat sirloin chicken and pizza....
his diet is alot better than yours
So you live with the dude and know what he eats?
Enlighten me, please.
I eat alot of relatively clean foods, but I'm not a bodybuilder so it doesn't matter in my situation.
DIV
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So you live with the dude and know what he eats?
Enlighten me, please.
I eat alot of relatively clean foods, but I'm not a bodybuilder so it doesn't matter in my situation.
DIV
i already posted king kamali's diet and ask you for a comparison...afteral you said he had a shitty diet.... but you deleted that post... remember?
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i already posted king kamali's diet and ask you for a comparison...afteral you said he had a shitty diet.... but you deleted that post... remember?
You don't live with Kamali so you don't know what he eats......
You know what he said he eats, fool.
I would bet you believe Lee Priest when he lays out his cycles too, eh? ;D
DIV
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You don't live with Kamali so you don't know what he eats......
You know what he said he eats, fool.
I would bet you believe Lee Priest when he lays out his cycles too, eh? ;D
DIV
well yes your right.
no way for any of the people on this website to know that anybody else is ever saying the truth about anything.
including what you say about yourself..
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well yes your right.
no way for any of the people on this website to know that anybody else is ever saying the truth about anything.
including what you say about yourself..
Of course, which is why I say take it with a grain of salt....
That's with anything in life unless you know the person.
Shit, even if you know someone, you don't know everything about them.
I bet Lee Priest's wife didn't know everything he did.
We certainly don't know what you do beyond your "google" habit, tbombz.
DIZV