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Thu, Jun 10 2010
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - The growing number of full-time working moms in the past few decades could be one of the factors contributing to the concurrent rise in childhood obesity, new research hints.
In a study of more than 8,500 UK adults followed since their birth in 1958, researchers found that the study participants' young children were 50 percent more likely to be overweight or obese than they themselves had been back in the 1960s.
When the researchers looked at factors that could be associated with the trend, they found that mothers' full-time employment, which was more common in the younger generation, appeared to be one.
The findings, published in the American Journal of Epidemiology, do not prove that moms' full-time work, per se, contributes to the risk of childhood obesity.
One possibility, according to the researchers, is that children of full-time working moms have fewer family meals or less-healthy diets in general.
So the trend in mothers' employment over the past few decades may be one of the variables contributing to a general erosion in children's diets; the explosion in sugary junk foods on the market, food advertising aimed at kids, and the increasing availability of high- fat, high-sugar fare in schools are among the other factors that have been blamed.
The current study lacked information on the children's diets and exercise habits, so it is not known whether kids of working moms did in fact have poorer-quality diets or were less active.
For the study, Dr. Leah Li and colleagues at the University College London analyzed data from a project that has followed a large group of Britons since their birth in 1958. They focused on 8,552 participants who, in 1991, had a total of 1,889 children between the ages of 4 and 9.
Overall, the children were more likely to be overweight or obese than their parents had been back in 1965: 12 percent of boys were overweight or obese, versus 8 percent of their fathers in childhood; and 18 percent of girls were heavy, versus of 11 percent in their mothers' generation.
Li's team found that both parents' current weight and mothers' employment status were associated with the risk of their children being overweight.
Children of mothers who worked full-time were 48 percent more likely to be overweight or obese than children of non-working mothers. That was with factors such as socioeconomics, parents' weight and breastfeeding (which some studies have linked to a lower risk of childhood obesity) taken into account.
When parents were obese, the odds of the child being overweight were three to six times greater than when parents were normal-weight.
Rates of both parental obesity and full-time work among mothers increased between the two generations. In 1991, 60 percent of mothers worked, including 15 percent who were full-time; that compared with 45 percent and 10 percent, respectively, in 1965.
Similarly, about 12 percent of parents were obese in 1991, versus 5 to 7 percent of the first generation's parents in 1965.
So it's possible, according to Li and her colleagues, that both factors (parents' weight, in particular) contributed to the intergeneration increase in childhood weight.
However, even if mothers' employment is a factor in the rise of childhood obesity, it would only account for a small portion of that increase, the current findings suggest.
Based on their data, the researchers estimate that in 1991, less than 8 percent of cases of childhood overweight or obesity could be attributable to mothers' employment.
In general, experts believe that a complex mix of societal factors -- from shifts in eating habits, to greater reliance on cars and increasing hours logged in front of the TV or computer -- has been behind the rise in childhood weight problems in recent decades.
SOURCE: link.reuters.com/heh49k
American Journal of Epidemiology, online May 20, 2010.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6595J020100610
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Sad story.
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its all about lifestyle, both my parents worked full time growing up and my brother was overweight I dont know if id consider him obese but overweight and I wasnt I played sports all throughout my child hood.
I can see that it could lead to less healthy meals more take out etc...
but this reminds me of friends that say they just dont have time to make it to the gym but then sit at home every night and watch 4 hours of tv ::)
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People need to stop blaming mommy for every societal ill.
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My little brother's always had a weight problem,yet the rest of my siblings never did.Our diet wasn't any different,depends on a person's metabolism also.75% of American males are unfit for military service because of the growing trend. :(
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Must kids' obeisity problems stem from poor diets not enforced by parents and not enough of an active lifestyle. Parents are the ones in control. If parents choose to feed their kids McDonalds three to four times per week with ice cream desert promised afterwards, then they are soley the ones to blame here. They are equal to drug pushers because they are pushing junk food onto their kids. Just because a kid cries for junk that doesn't mean that one should give it to them. The dog wags the tail...not the other way around. Get those kids out of the bedroom from playing videogames and out on a baseball diamond, soccer field or whatever. Anything to be active.
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that is such a crock of shit if you ask me. Yes the schools feed them shit, that it's why parents need to make sure healthy food at home. Teach them the value of health and good eating habits. Rewards to fast food places is not the answer
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My little brother's always had a weight problem,yet the rest of my siblings never did.Our diet wasn't any different,depends on a person's metabolism also.75% of American males are unfit for military service because of the growing trend. :(
the military does some crazy stuff I am unfit for military service b/c of weight and height requirements... ::)
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See the sad thing, is when most of us were young..in the 70's and 80's we could play outside without worrying some sick fuck would steal us or do us harm. We didnt have the internet. I for one was lucky, we had an inground pool so being in so california we got to swim year round.
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See the sad thing, is when most of us were young..in the 70's and 80's we could play outside without worrying some sick fuck would steal us or do us harm. We didnt have the internet. I for one was lucky, we had an inground pool so being in so california we got to swim year round.
Funny you should mention that Newmom. I just had this discussion yesterday with my dad and we were discussing how I would go out and play with my friends from day to night all alone on the street and not worry about getting kidnapped or Lord knows what else. I remember even at recess in elementry school, we used to play sports, tag, etc. Now 11 year olds go hide in the corner and smoke cigeretts and I don't even want to know what the girls are doing. Times have certainly changed.
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Exactly Playboy, also who the hell wanted to stay inside. I could see if you live in a place in the wintertime with the cold but other than that. Also, IMO, alot of parents don't want to involve their kids in after school activities, I.E karate, swimming or whatever. For some I understand its difficult with work schedules and the alike.
My mom was telling me a story the other day. I was about 12 years old and she sent me to get milk at the store around 9am. Left on my bike and got back around 6pm or so. She said she was a tad worried but those were the times, you didnt worry about that stuff with sickos. I mean now kids have cell phones, which I think is a good idea. In the same breath though, I see 7 and 8 year olds walking to school alone, THAT I dont think is smart in this day and age.
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Anybody here see the 2007 film "The Girl Next Door" or read the 1989 novel of the same name by Jack Ketchum? It is loosely based on the true story of the 1965 torture and murder of 16 year old Sylvia Likens. It was described as "the most terrible crime ever committed in the state of Indiana."
I believe there have always been the same sick people out there, but there was just a time when it was done more behind closed doors than it is today.
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Anybody here see the 2007 film "The Girl Next Door" or read the 1989 novel of the same name by Jack Ketchum? It is loosely based on the true story of the 1965 torture and murder of 16 year old Sylvia Likens. It was described as "the most terrible crime ever committed in the state of Indiana."
I believe there have always been the same sick people out there, but there was just a time when it was done more behind closed doors than it is today.
No...did they catch the person that did it?
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No...did they catch the person that did it?
**** SPOILER ALERT *****
Both in the movie and in the true story, the poor girl was tortured by the woman trusted to care for her, and the woman's children, and some other kids from the neighborhood. That's what so terrible about it. All these people participated in the torture of this poor girl, for almost three months, and nobody did anything to help her. The "mom" of the house was mainly responsible for all of it, the torture and the murder.
In the movie, the woman is killed. In the true story, she, her children and some of the other people involved go to jail. She was given life in prison, but later paroled because of good conduct, then died of lung cancer shortly after that. The whole story makes me very sad and very angry at the same time.
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Anybody here see the 2007 film "The Girl Next Door" or read the 1989 novel of the same name by Jack Ketchum? It is loosely based on the true story of the 1965 torture and murder of 16 year old Sylvia Likens. It was described as "the most terrible crime ever committed in the state of Indiana."
I believe there have always been the same sick people out there, but there was just a time when it was done more behind closed doors than it is today.
We had a similar story here in Toronto back in 1993. The serial killers name was Paul Bernardo. He and his wife at the time were accomplices in the raping, killing and torturing of multiple women including the killers wife's sister. It was huge on the news here. He did get caught and went to trial but his idiot wife cut a deal with the crown and got a way lesser sentence for her participation. They found small camcorder tapes hidden in a pot light in the couples home and the footage contained the rape & torcher of 2 women.
Unbelievable.
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We had a similar story here in Toronto back in 1993. The serial killers name was Paul Bernardo. He and his wife at the time were accomplices in the raping, killing and torturing of multiple women including the killers wife's sister. It was huge on the news here. He did get caught and went to trial but his idiot wife cut a deal with the crown and got a way lesser sentence for her participation. They found small camcorder tapes hidden in a pot light in the couples home and the footage contained the rape & torcher of 2 women.
Unbelievable.
Disgusting!
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Disgusting!
It is still talked about today. There is a personal bounty on both as people still want their heads on a platter.
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We had a similar story here in Toronto back in 1993. The serial killers name was Paul Bernardo. He and his wife at the time were accomplices in the raping, killing and torturing of multiple women including the killers wife's sister. It was huge on the news here. He did get caught and went to trial but his idiot wife cut a deal with the crown and got a way lesser sentence for her participation. They found small camcorder tapes hidden in a pot light in the couples home and the footage contained the rape & torcher of 2 women.
Unbelievable.
I saw this on ID TV awhile back some crazy people no doubt.
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I saw this on ID TV awhile back some crazy people no doubt.
His wife Carla Homolka was realeased from prison a few years back and she re-located to Montreal with a changed name, different look, etc. Nice huh?
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His wife Carla Homolka was realeased from prison a few years back and she re-located to Montreal with a changed name, different look, etc. Nice huh?
How can they let a person like that back out on the streets? She should have gotten the death penalty
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How can they let a person like that back out on the streets? She should have gotten the death penalty
She cut a deal with the devil. She agreed to co-operate with the RCMP to give him up in exchange for a much lighter sentence. He killed and she was his accomplice. She got like 9 years for manslaughter or something along those lines. He got nailed for the murder/rape of two yonge women here. One was 14 and the other was 15. He basically kidnapped them (one at a time) and held them hostage in his home. While he raped them his wife basically videotaped the whole thing. He had hours of footage of himself raping these poor women in ever orfus imaginable. He torchered them with hot curling irons, etc. It was Canada's most sadistic crime. If Canada had the death penalty, he would definately have received it.
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My mom was telling me a story the other day. I was about 12 years old and she sent me to get milk at the store around 9am. Left on my bike and got back around 6pm or so. She said she was a tad worried but those were the times, you didnt worry about that stuff with sickos. I mean now kids have cell phones, which I think is a good idea. In the same breath though, I see 7 and 8 year olds walking to school alone, THAT I dont think is smart in this day and age.
Did you remember the milk?
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Did you remember the milk?
Actually I dont know, I will definately have to ask. Knowing me probably not
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She cut a deal with the devil. She agreed to co-operate with the RCMP to give him up in exchange for a much lighter sentence. He killed and she was his accomplice. She got like 9 years for manslaughter or something along those lines. He got nailed for the murder/rape of two yonge women here. One was 14 and the other was 15. He basically kidnapped them (one at a time) and held them hostage in his home. While he raped them his wife basically videotaped the whole thing. He had hours of footage of himself raping these poor women in ever orfus imaginable. He torchered them with hot curling irons, etc. It was Canada's most sadistic crime. If Canada had the death penalty, he would definately have received it.
Didnt they rape and kill her sister too?
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Didnt they rape and kill her sister too?
They certainly did but there was no proof of it. It all came out later because Carla Homolka tried to write a book to make $$$$ and capitalize on the situation. Bernardo was responsible for two murders only instead of something like 10. Sad shit. I feel bad for the families. Can you imagine? One of your loved ones going through that ordeal and then this bitch on top of getting a very weak sentence, comes out of jail and writes a book. Wow.
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They certainly did but there was no proof of it. It all came out later because Carla Homolka tried to write a book to make $$$$ and capitalize on the situation. Bernardo was responsible for two murders only instead of something like 10. Sad shit. I feel bad for the families. Can you imagine? One of your loved ones going through that ordeal and then this bitch on top of getting a very weak sentence, comes out of jail and writes a book. Wow.
She should of got at least 20 years no early exit. I know he seemed to be the person driving the rapes and killings but she allowed and who knows what she played in these events. Sad stuff for the families.
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She should of got at least 20 years no early exit. I know he seemed to be the person driving the rapes and killings but she allowed and who knows what she played in these events. Sad stuff for the families.
If you ever saw his pick, he looks like a nerd who weighs about 160lbs. The type of guy that would get ravaged if he met up with the wrong people on the wrong side of town.
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If you ever saw his pick, he looks like a nerd who weighs about 160lbs. The type of guy that would get ravaged if he met up with the wrong people on the wrong side of town.
The story was on ID TV they were both very attrative people I assume this is one reason they were able to lure these people in
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The story was on ID TV they were both very attrative people I assume this is one reason they were able to lure these people in
For sure.
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**** SPOILER ALERT *****
Both in the movie and in the true story, the poor girl was tortured by the woman trusted to care for her, and the woman's children, and some other kids from the neighborhood. That's what so terrible about it. All these people participated in the torture of this poor girl, for almost three months, and nobody did anything to help her. The "mom" of the house was mainly responsible for all of it, the torture and the murder.
In the movie, the woman is killed. In the true story, she, her children and some of the other people involved go to jail. She was given life in prison, but later paroled because of good conduct, then died of lung cancer shortly after that. The whole story makes me very sad and very angry at the same time.
Horrible!
And I've heard about the Karla Holmolka thing. Unreal.
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Horrible!
And I've heard about the Karla Holmolka thing. Unreal.
It was pretty gruesome. Apparently, the footage on the hidden video tapes of the rape and torchure of the two young women was so horrid that the judge ordered them to be destroyed after the trial.
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I'm surprised she made it out of prison alive. Maybe I've seen too many movies ::)
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I'm surprised she made it out of prison alive. Maybe I've seen too many movies ::)
She came out, moved to Montreal, changed her name and appearence totally. Even got re-married (don't ask me how).
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The story was on ID TV they were both very attrative people I assume this is one reason they were able to lure these people in
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Those pics just go to show you that anyone can become a serial killer. Look at them. Unreal.
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Those pics just go to show you that anyone can become a serial killer. Look at them. Unreal.
I read more about this story and saw that the cops caught him several times, but then released him after questioning him without further investigation because they could not believe that a nice, well mannered, educated young man such as him could be the serial rapists/murderer the cops were looking for. ::)
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I read more about this story and saw that the cops caught him several times, but then released him after questioning him without further investigation because they could not believe that a nice, well mannered, educated young man such as him could be the serial rapists/murderer the cops were looking for. ::)
They had no evidence against him. He would have gotten away with it had Carla not turned on him. She was the only key witness and she revealed the videotapes of Paul Bernardo raping and torchering the women on tape.
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They had no evidence against him. He would have gotten away with it had Carla not turned on him. She was the only key witness and she revealed the videotapes of Paul Bernardo raping and torchering the women on tape.
Even so, they did not believe he was the one they were looking for, according to what I've read. Apparently, he's a smooth talker and didn't have the "looks" of a serial killer.
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Something is very familiar about that story ??? Was there a Lifetime movie about them or a documentary on A & E or something? Didn't she play the victim card?
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My mother worked nights.
How on earth did I manage to avoid being fat?
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Anybody here see the 2007 film "The Girl Next Door" or read the 1989 novel of the same name by Jack Ketchum? It is loosely based on the true story of the 1965 torture and murder of 16 year old Sylvia Likens. It was described as "the most terrible crime ever committed in the state of Indiana."
I just ordered the movie. Should have it by Friday.
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I just ordered the movie. Should have it by Friday.
Cool! Prepare to be saddened and angered.
With Netflix you can instantly watch it on your computer, or on your tv if you have a Wii, PS3 or Xbox 360.
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Something is very familiar about that story ??? Was there a Lifetime movie about them or a documentary on A & E or something? Didn't she play the victim card?
She played the victim card and tried to collect on the dividends of the movie but lawsuits prevented that especially when the families of the deceased lashed out. She should thank her lucky stars that she did her little to no time and is out.
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Something is very familiar about that story ??? Was there a Lifetime movie about them or a documentary on A & E or something? Didn't she play the victim card?
There is a movie, but it makes Karla look like an innocent victim in the whole thing.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51t2MPJApbL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
http://www.amazon.com/Karla-Laura-Prepon/dp/B000MNOXX0/ref=cm_cr_pr_pb_i
Here is a great review:
15 of 17 people found the following review helpful:
1.0 out of 5 stars Factually corrupt., June 16, 2009
By Andrew MacEwen "His Imperial Majesty, Grand H... - See all my reviews
This review is from: Karla (DVD)
When I saw a woman in the writing credits, I immediately knew what I was in for.
1) Although Paul had committed two rapes and attempted a third before meeting Karla, he did not plunge headlong into his solo career as the Scarborough Rapist until after they had met and she had started encouraging his sickest fantasies and most deviant behavior. The film reverses the sequence of events: it has Bernardo well into his career as rapist before he and Karla start to commit their mutual depredations. (e.g., A notorious police sketch of the Scarborough rapist that led to Paul's being detained and questioned was published after his eleventh rape, two-and-half-years after he and Karla met. In the film, this occurs almost immediately once they start dating.) This rearranging of events absolves Karla of having any real effect on Paul's fantasies and behavior.
2) The film omits Karla's encouragement of Paul's activities as a solo rapist. Paul's claim that Karla "set him off" is mentioned, but the filmmakers chose not dramatize any influence on Karla's part. See #1.
3) The film portrays their relationship as abusive, with Paul constantly using Karla as a punching bag, escalating in frequency as their relationship spirals, thus creating the fraudulent possibility that some kind of "learned helplessness" syndrome contributed to her behavior. The dramatization certainly asserts quite openly that she couldn't leave him because of this "learned helplessness." In actuality, Paul did not hit Karla until the night he pounded her with a flashlight, at which point she immediately turned him in. And yet we are shown, instead of the brief flashlight attack, an extended and thoroughly bogus sequence in which Paul punishes Karla for having made a half-hearted attempt to leave him by sodomizing her with a gag in her mouth and then throwing her down the stairs and beating her some more. Then the story resorts to that familiar and facile standby with which we are all familiar from Lifetime and Oxygen and "Sleeping with the Enemy" -- Karla can't leave Paul because he'll hunt her down and kill her. Again, the real-life scenario was completely different: their relationship was mutual bliss until her beat her with the flashlight. And she left him immediately.
4) The film does not portray Karla procuring Paul's victims. Instead, it has Paul finding his own victims and bringing them back to the house to the surprise of Karla. This lie of omission is unforgivable.
5) Karla Homolka was aroused watching her loverboy rape his victims. This is mostly ignored by the filmmakers. Particularly dishonest is a scene in which she is seen reading American Psycho in bed while Paul is in the basement with a victim. In actuality, Karla was in the same room with Paul and his victim while reading the Ellis book. The book was intensifying the arousal she felt at what Paul was doing. When asked at the trial how she could read a book and watch her husband rape a girl, she responded by saying, "I'm capable of doing two things at once." This is a classic sociopath's comment, as it is not clear just how seriously the answer was intended and to what extent she was goading her interrogator. But there is no true sense of Karla as a sociopath in this film, despite the coda that informs us that the real-life psychiatrist assessed her as one.
6) Initially, Karla displays curiosity when witnessing Paul's assault on a girl and following his instructions to kiss her. As the film progresses, however, she experiences pangs of conscience and is portrayed as a horrified onlooker. After one murder, we are treated to a risible scene in which she symbolically scrubs herself clean in the shower as Paul violates a Catholic schoolgirl in a nearby room. These are outrageous lies, since anyone who has seen the videotapes can testify that Karla was a perverted and slavering participant who needed no threats of violence or psychological manipulation to join in these depredations. During the climax of this second torture killing, we see that Karla has become hardened and emotionally deadened and that her moral qualms are gone, but this is a far cry from the perverted deviant she actually was all along.
Choosing to tell the story via Karla's self-serving accounts allows the filmmakers to sidestep the otherwise unavoidable conclusion that she was an eager, willing, and sadistic accomplice. While the interviewing psychiatrist in the wraparound narrative framework provides a reference point for the viewer that makes it clear Karla's words cannot necessarily be trusted, the dramatization itself manages to suggest that Karla was essentially a woman whose low self-esteem ran so deep that she participated in these activities mostly to keep Paul happy and ensure that she wouldn't lose him. Any faint glimmerings of sadistic enjoyment (and they are very few and very faint) displayed by Karla are subtly passed off as the ill effects of Paul's "victimization" of her.
Relationships like these are mutually toxic, though not necessarily equally so in both directions. If we can assume as a matter of course that Karla would not have done these things without a partner like Paul, then we should be able to consider the possibility that Paul's behavior was, to some extent, affected by the presence of Karla.
Alas, we live in a society which steadfastly refuses to believe in female depravity unless its presence is attributed to the pernicious influence of a patriarchal, white-male "hegemony." Films like this are factually corrupt and disgusting.
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I just ordered the movie. Should have it by Friday.
It's on the "Chiller" channel now. Not really watching it tho - we're having a storm and the satellite keeps going in and out.
Aunt Ruthie sure is a bitch >:(
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It's on the "Chiller" channel now. Not really watching it tho - we're having a storm and the satellite keeps going in and out.
Aunt Ruthie sure is a bitch >:(
The Chiller channel rules.
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Looks like another movie was made about that case too.
Ellen Page plays Sylvia - she's a phenomenal actress.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/22.html
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/notorious_murders/young/likens/An-American-Crime200.jpg)
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Looks like another movie was made about that case too.
Ellen Page plays Sylvia - she's a phenomenal actress.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/22.html
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/trutv/trutv.com/graphics/photos/notorious_murders/young/likens/An-American-Crime200.jpg)
Thanks looks good.
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There are 23 "chapters" in this "story". It tells the entire history of the case.
Very disturbing :'(
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/1.html
Chapter 17
1985: SLAM into Action
In 1985, after serving two decades in Indiana Women's Prison, the parole board voted to grant Gertrude Baniszewski a parole. However, a court ruled that the board's hearing had not been properly open to the public and a new vote had to be taken.
Two anti-crime groups, Protect the Innocent and Society's League Against Molestation (SLAM), instantly swung into action. Interestingly, SLAM was founded by Patti Linebaugh, the grandmother of Amy Sue Seitz, a two-year-old molested, tortured, and murdered by convicted child molester Theodore Frank. Perpetrated in California, that crime, like this one, would be called "the worst crime ever committed against one victim in the state's history."
Members of SLAM and Protect the Innocent pounded the pavements of Indianapolis seeking signatures of citizens opposed to the parole. They had no trouble getting them even among those who were too young to remember the case because Gertrude Baniszewski's name had, in the two decades of her incarceration, become that of an Indianapolis "bogeywoman." They ended up gathering more than 4,500 signatures in just a couple of months. Jenny Likens appeared on television to demand that the notorious Baniszewski be kept behind bars.
Despite the outcry, when the parole board again voted, it was three to two in favor of the parole, exactly as it had been on the first vote. Baniszewski's conduct as a prisoner had been quite good. She worked in the sewing shop and tended to make favorable impressions upon both prison staff and other inmates. Many of the younger imprisoned women called the child killer and mother of seven by a title most familiar to her: "Mom." According to the Chicago Tribune, prison psychiatrists "termed Baniszewski a 'healthy, stable, pleasant and agreeable' person who wants 'to try to make up for the past and leave the world a little better.'" ::) >:( At the hearing, Baniszewski teared up frequently and expressed remorse but claimed amnesia about the crime. Indeed, her statement of remorse was enigmatic: "I'm not sure what role I had in it . . . because I was on drugs. I never really knew her. [But] I take full responsibility for whatever happened to Sylvia." She left prison December 4, 1985.
The torture-murderer moved to Iowa where she lived out her life under the name Nadine Van Fossan. A long-time heavy smoker, she died in 1990 of lung cancer.'
Actually, I'm quite ill right now after reading that whole story. I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch the movie :'(
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Looks like another movie was made about that case too.
Ellen Page plays Sylvia - she's a phenomenal actress.
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/22.html
Thanks Princess! I did not know about that one. I don't know if I can stomach another movie based on this case. Watching movies like this are not so bad if it's fiction and I know it. But when a horror movie like this is based on real life events, it is very disturbing to me.
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Thanks Princess! I did not know about that one. I don't know if I can stomach another movie based on this case. Watching movies like this are not so bad if it's fiction and I know it. But when a horror movie like this is based on real life events, it is very disturbing to me.
Life is scary nowdays.
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Life is scary nowdays.
It has certainly changed for the worse. Its all about street smarts now and if one doesn't have them, one parishes.
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There are 23 "chapters" in this "story". It tells the entire history of the case.
Very disturbing :'(
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/young/likens/1.html
Actually, I'm quite ill right now after reading that whole story. I don't know if I'm going to be able to watch the movie :'(
Watched it last night :-\ Knowing the real story now, this movie was very loosely based on it. IMO it wasn't all that well done (character development, etc.). I will rent the other one too. I think it follows the real story more accurately and Ellen Page is such a good actress, I'm sure it's well done. I did read regardless of either depiction, it's only a fraction of what that poor girl endured. Horrendous
That woman was one F'd up bitch and those kids involved must've grown up really F'd up too.
>:(