Worthless Supplements

[Dr. D]

yes it is, but what im trying to say is that according to mountains of research it simply doesnt absorb very well via oral administration. it has its benefits though, like the ones ive listed, with sleep and digestion among the best.

ill see if i can find the papers for you to have a look at if you want to read some of them.

Read Dr Judy Shabert's book: Glutamine, The Ultimate Nutrient.

[Necrosis]

Read Dr Judy Shabert's book: Glutamine, The Ultimate Nutrient.

is there a book on health you havent read?

lol

cool ill have a look.

[j.dunno]

So right!   I agree with all those.

Ahhh....remember 1-AD.   So nice.

[j.dunno]

Flower stated good stuff along time back.  I have tried my fair share....and like most things they work...or so they seem to make my head think so.  But when you put focus on anything....or even on nothing but yourself, you can grow like mad too.

But some of those supps do work wonders.  And you don't always get what you pay for either.

[g101]

how bout all supplements are worthless xcept for multi vitamins and bcaa's

[powerpack]

how bout all supplements are worthless xcept for multi vitamins and bcaa's

I don't agree with that.
There is allot of crap out there that is marketed well, but modern supplements are leaps and bounds a head of the crap of the old days and a fair bit of it works.
1) Modern Protein powder, nice and easy to take, tastes good and works... just ten years ago it tasted crap, if you did not down it straight away it turned to cement in your shaker and all of them gave you gas for the next 24 hours.(Especially Weider products)
2) Pre work out boosters are amazing now a days.
3) Post work out drinks with HI GI carbs, BCAA and Creatine works well.
4) Test boosters especially when you get into your thirties make a massive difference.

The trouble is it all costs allot of money and does not work on every one, but if can see past the hype, find a good brand and find something that works for you that you can afford, it is magic.

[justlookin1]

1-TU worthless???  Best pro-hormone ever.

[Necrosis]

the guy that made this thread doesnt have a sweet clue about supps.

one thing i hate is the misinformed giving out info without any research.

i dont talk about shit i dont know about. i dont pretend to know stuff about math,cars,or fishing

for example M1T as good?

that is ridiculous. first off its basically a liver toxin with the side of muscle growth. it renders the HPTA useless, and can only be cycled for short periods. these factors combined make it garbage. you'll risk potential sides, for little gains do to cycle longevity, and be hard pressed to keep them.

it is the most toxic oral around period. its utter shit.

all oral steriods are really shit unless combined with a test base etc..

M1T will dissolve your liver and fuck up your lipoproteins in a hurry.

[Mars]

What do you guys think about Vitargo Creatine? i heard some good things about it.

[Necrosis]

What do you guys think about Vitargo Creatine? i heard some good things about it.

its the shit dude, get that or supercarb from avant and your golden.

i like vitargo cgl. awesome stuff for packing on weight.

[AVBG]

What do you guys think about Vitargo Creatine? i heard some good things about it.

VITARGO CGL.. Is probably is my favourite supplement period.


The worst is ANYTHING made by Kemistry.. The absolute pits..

[strength]

there is nothing to really disagree about, go to avant and search glutamine, or go to pubmed.

you will see it is basically worthless, and extra amounts are pissed out and not absorbed as it is a conditionally essential amino acid, which can be formed as needed by other aminos.

also, the sheer amount of protein and quality protein bb eat would more then supply enough glutamine.

it is not a wise product to invest money in for recovery. it offers no anabolic advantages and no anti-catabolic advantages at high doses. the above benefits are all there is to supplementing glutamine. for some that may  be enough, but is doesnt help with recovery.

if i were looking at aminos i would be looking at leucine as the kingpin for muscle growth dosed at 23-35 grams a day. the other BCAA'S are fine, but leucine is much better.

I always see this type of info.  but i also always see glutamine on the countertops of great looking BBers.  I take it, i like it.  deffinetely helps with sleep

[Necrosis]

I always see this type of info.  but i also always see glutamine on the countertops of great looking BBers.  I take it, i like it.  deffinetely helps with sleep

ya it helps with sleep for sure, you also see test, slin etc behind the counter as well.

you also see alot of pros eating 2grams or protein per pound also, it doesnt do shit.

[biceps]

The best Tribulus product is the original Tribestan from Sopharma Bulgaria it is the only pharmaceutical grade product.

[croc]

could i add

no explode
nitrix

to the worthless supplements

good

trumass

great weight management tool

i cant really speak for any others I only use
creatine
whey isolate
casien
glutamine
oil
multivit

and trumass when im in growth season

[gendreau_neil]

NO is a bunch of bullshit - muscle pump does not equal muscle growth. 

These are the three supplements anyone needs, in order of priority:

Whey/Casein/Egg protein
Injectable Anabolics/Pro-Hormones (subject to availability, males only please!)
Creatine

But most importantly, solid fundamental diet with brief high intensity training, then adequate muscle recovery.

Nothing else matters.  Bodybuilding is not rocket science.

[Necrosis]

NO is a bunch of bullshit - muscle pump does not equal muscle growth. 

These are the three supplements anyone needs, in order of priority:

Whey/Casein/Egg protein
Injectable Anabolics/Pro-Hormones (subject to availability, males only please!)
Creatine

But most importantly, solid fundamental diet with brief high intensity training, then adequate muscle recovery.

Nothing else matters.  Bodybuilding is not rocket science.

i would say all you really need is good food and rest.

[Obvious Gimmick]

NO explode is useless

gaspari superpump does give me superpumps but i don't know if there is anything longlasting about it.

gaspari 3rd degree burn has also worked well for me

[El Diablo Blanco]

I ordered a big ass tub of this shit from bb.com.  It claims in the add that they have easy to swallow caplets, these are not caplets, they are freaking horse pills.  Each one is the size of an ice cube.  The smell is so nasty it makes me gag.  Everytime I open the jar my girls gets pissed at me from the smell.  I have to wash my hands after taking them because it smells like I massaged a horses ass with my hand.  It is the nastiest, worst supplement out there.

Seriously buyer beware.  Stay the f*ck away from Ultimate Nutrition Amino-Bolic.  It is just plain gross shit.

[busyB]

I ordered a big ass tub of this shit from bb.com.  It claims in the add that they have easy to swallow caplets, these are not caplets, they are freaking horse pills.  Each one is the size of an ice cube.  The smell is so nasty it makes me gag.  Everytime I open the jar my girls gets pissed at me from the smell.  I have to wash my hands after taking them because it smells like I massaged a horses ass with my hand.  It is the nastiest, worst supplement out there.

Seriously buyer beware.  Stay the f*ck away from Ultimate Nutrition Amino-Bolic.  It is just plain gross shit.

Sounds like a good ol' batch of liver aminos maybe? 

[Zach Trowbridge]

Psssshhh!  Horse pills are for pansies!  You're not hardcore unless your pills are the size of a tv remote!  And you take 11 of them at a time!

[MidniteRambo]

bee pollen (I think I fell for that one many years ago)

[Mark from LP]

I would have to say the most worthless and biggest scam was those Myostatin blockers that Pinnacle, Cytodyne and one other company teamed up to market.

They were so overpriced and really did NOTHING.

There are a lot of bad supplement companies out there just to get your money...

[Mark from LP]

That post made me laugh.

I don't think I will be trying Amino-Bolic in the near future.

[phemonmmill32]

bought some viraloid at local GNC for 7.99 only to find out it was a snake oil / skam based on opinions and testimonials from some on the board.