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Please answer the following two questions:
1. Do you believe anything ESFitness writes?
2. Do you find any of ESFitness' posts interesting?
Thanks in advance.
p.s. Ron, you should look into adding a poll feature!
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Please answer the following two questions:
1. Do you believe anything ESFitness writes?
2. Do you find any of ESFitness' posts interesting?
Thanks in advance.
p.s. Ron, you should look into adding a poll feature!
Good poster - has certainly been there and done that.
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Some of his stories are over the top. But they are still entertaining as fuck to read. Very knowledgable on many topics. True stories or not, he's a great poster.
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Sometimes, just like the rest of us, he goes off on tantrums in the middle of the night, but nobody really seems to get all worked up over it.
He definitely knows his shit about bodybuilding; natural (lol, as if) and ...non? natural...
I think he's got a wealth of knowledge, but no, I'm not gonna swallow his load, which is ALWAYS where this shit goes when you compliment someone.
So, yeah, he's O.K
fuck your pole... or get fucked by it... whatever floats your chicken
and we all love eachother even though all we do is hate on eachother. Question is; why do we keep coming back for more?
We are so moronic. Probably worse than all other forums on the net.
Oh well, here I am, just like everyone else.
ES rocks out with his cock out.... I think
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I dont' care if anybody disagrees with me, it's the disrespect that I respond poorly to (being where I've been, if you speak disrespectfully to someone, you know that that's an immediate fight... doesn't translate well here, and many guys think it's 'nothing' to be disrespectfull on here. one day somebody will talk to someone in 'real life' like they talk to people on here and that someone will be somebody like me and they won't be expecting the reaction they get)... I also don't care if anybody 'sides' with me.
and the 'stories' that people make fun of, thinking it's not true? like fighting/submission grappling in prison? happens at a lot of prisons. using a guitar string to stitch a cut? so what? guitar string is smaller and sharper than a sewing needle (which is the only alternative, other than going to the Medical office and then going to the 'hole), any boy-scout could do it. I dont' see what the big deal is... not like your using the guitar sting as thread, it's just the needle... and the '6g sweet spot'? that was referring to the common/average dosage for guys at national level npc/ifbb. not like that's a big secret that only I have access to or something.
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esf fitness is interesting
good guy via pm too
very helpful
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esfitness has very capped delts.
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Yeah, he's cool... definitely adds to getbig
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Good poster, would like to see an epic most muscular or violent side tricep to shut up the haters.
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ESFitness is a boss!
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agreed bring him back!
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agreed bring him back!
bring who back? fuck you talking about?
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He knows all the science behind it but alas none of it seems to work in practice (on himself that is)
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After all the ESfitness bashing, now comes the ass licking thread.
I might as well join in huh
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He knows all the science behind it but alas none of it seems to work in practice (on himself that is)
as in diet? of which mine consists of mac n cheese, pizza, mt. dew, marie calanders microwave pasta dinners, chicken nuggets, and buffalo ranch chicken sandwhiches?
I may take in 500g of carbs in a day, but I rarely get in 200g of protein.. or even 150. if I have no reason to 'diet', I eat what I want, when I want and be satisfied.
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as in diet? of which mine consists of mac n cheese, pizza, mt. dew, marie calanders microwave pasta dinners, chicken nuggets, and buffalo ranch chicken sandwhiches?
I may take in 500g of carbs in a day, but I rarely get in 200g of protein.. or even 150. if I have no reason to 'diet', I eat what I want, when I want and be satisfied.
Why dont you tighten down the diet and make use of the training and gear?
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as in diet? of which mine consists of mac n cheese, pizza, mt. dew, marie calanders microwave pasta dinners, chicken nuggets, and buffalo ranch chicken sandwhiches?
I may take in 500g of carbs in a day, but I rarely get in 200g of protein.. or even 150. if I have no reason to 'diet', I eat what I want, when I want and be satisfied.
This might expalin why all the gear isn't working, the calories are pretty much empty.
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as in diet? of which mine consists of mac n cheese, pizza, mt. dew, marie calanders microwave pasta dinners, chicken nuggets, and buffalo ranch chicken sandwhiches?
I may take in 500g of carbs in a day, but I rarely get in 200g of protein.. or even 150. if I have no reason to 'diet', I eat what I want, when I want and be satisfied.
Exactly, my man, same here, like people forget there is a fucking life outside the gym.
I don't believe in all this staying in shape year round bullshit, I mean fuck would you want too unless you are competitive pro that makes money doing guest appearances or photo shoots?
If I wanna get in shape for vacation or holiday or whatever I step up my game and diet for that, otherwise its just fucking stupid.
I stay at reasonable BF like 15% and feel good about myself and have a life knowing I am like 6-8 weeks away anytime I want to be reasonable shape.
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Why dont you tighten down the diet and make use of the training and gear?
got too much going on. gotta pick my battles. I barely have time to train consistently because my schedule changes everyday at a moments notice due to clients/customers/orders/members/meetings/ect...
the juice ain't worth the squeeze right now.... and hasn't been for the past year, probably year and a half.
I'm constantly in a hurry, playing 'catch up'. hell, I don't get home till 1-130am most nights, depending on if I need to get groceries that night... and I'm lucky if I get 6hrs sleep. lol.
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Exactly, my man, same here, like people forget their is a fucking life outside the gym.
I don't believe in all this staying in shape year round bullshit, I mean fuck would you want too unless you are competitive pro that makes money doing guest appearances or photo shoots?
If I wanna get in shape for vacation or holiday or whatever I step up my game and diet for that, otherwise its just fucking stupid.
I stay at reasonable BF like 15% and feel good about myself and have a life knowing I am like 6-8 weeks away anytime I want to be reasonable shape.
have you ever been in good shape, honestly.
drop your dose to 250, starve for two months, then come back to us. we will call it a sabbatical of sorts.
hell, even run t3... you could run the t3 without sterons and you wont lose any of your 'muscle'
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Exactly, my man, same here, like people forget there is a fucking life outside the gym.
I don't believe in all this staying in shape year round bullshit, I mean fuck would you want too unless you are competitive pro that makes money doing guest appearances or photo shoots?
If I wanna get in shape for vacation or holiday or whatever I step up my game and diet for that, otherwise its just fucking stupid.
I stay at reasonable BF like 15% and feel good about myself and have a life knowing I am like 6-8 weeks away anytime I want to be reasonable shape.
15% reasonable haha ;D
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got too much going on. gotta pick my battles. I barely have time to train consistently because my schedule changes everyday at a moments notice due to clients/customers/orders/members/meetings/ect...
the juice ain't worth the squeeze right now.
then why even take the gear? the health risks arent worth the squeeze if youre only half assing it IMO.
I dont let myself even miss days with my twink dose... "if im killing my heart, it better not be a waste"
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then why even take the gear? the health risks arent worth the squeeze if youre only half assing it IMO.
I dont let myself even miss days with my twink dose... "if im killing my heart, it better not be a waste"
^ Solid post
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then why even take the gear? the health risks arent worth the squeeze if youre only half assing it IMO.
I dont let myself even miss days with my twink dose... "if im killing my heart, it better not be a waste"
I'm surprisingly healthy, aside from my bp which is about 135/85, give or take 5 points on each depending on if I've had pre-workout that day.
and my liver enzymes are 'high', but they're about 1/4 of what they were when I was drinking about a decade ago (fuck that seems like a long time).
all my heart and cardio are good/normal.
whenever I get bloodwork im expecting to see something that says "woa.. time to come off" but nothing ever stands out.
the only 'bad' thing I have seems to be an ulcer.. most likely from the liquid orals.. and most likely not the liquid AAS, but the ancillary stuff that I get from other ugl's (not my own), which seem to be made with isopropyl alcohol instead of the peg300 or ora-sweet that I use (peg300 is used in many laxitives, I doubt that's causing the ulcer).
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have you ever been in good shape, honestly.
drop your dose to 250, starve for two months, then come back to us. we will call it a sabbatical of sorts.
hell, even run t3... you could run the t3 without sterons and you wont lose any of your 'muscle'
Best I ever did was get down to 7% BF abusing ECA Stack + High dose AI and yes I was ripped but very small, sorta looked like Sev, I think I was around 165lb and felt like death.
No need to starve or drop test, this time around I will get ripped if I wanted to eating 250g carbs a day still, I will just let the GH & T4 & Clen do the work.
I realized all that keto bullshit is huge mistake on gear cos everyone comes in looking flat and like shit.
Lee Priest told me in his seminar, never go less than 250g carbs unless for few weeks before a show to cut water.
The Tom Venuto way is the way to do it in my opinion "Burn the fat, feed the muscle"
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I'm scared shitless of teh juice... :-X
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I'm surprisingly healthy, aside from my bp which is about 135/85, give or take 5 points on each depending on if I've had pre-workout that day.
and my liver enzymes are 'high', but they're about 1/4 of what they were when I was drinking about a decade ago (fuck that seems like a long time).
all my heart and cardio are good/normal.
whenever I get bloodwork im expecting to see something that says "woa.. time to come off" but nothing ever stands out.
the only 'bad' thing I have seems to be an ulcer.. most likely from the liquid orals.. and most likely not the liquid AAS, but the ancillary stuff that I get from other ugl's (not my own), which seem to be made with isopropyl alcohol instead of the peg300 or ora-sweet that I use (peg300 is used in many laxitives, I doubt that's causing the ulcer).
do you run orals year around?
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I'm scared shitless of teh juice... :-X
dudes we got a live homo here ;D
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do you run orals year around?
I gotta think about that... I believe there's been some months in the past couple years when I havn't run orals. I think in the past year there's been about 3 months total when I didn't run orals... and some months have been just dbol pre-workout on training days. actually, the only orals I've run in the past year have been dbol and methyltrienolone.. with a little winstrol here and there. dbol's usually a full syringe preworkout, so 150mg.. sometimes 100mg. MT is usually 1-2mg for a few weeks at a time, sometimes along with the dbol.. sometimes 1cc mt (1mg) and 2cc dbol 100mg preworkout.
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dudes we got a live homo here ;D
hahahahahahahhahahahahah ahah FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
forgot the rule ;D ;D ;D
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I gotta think about that... I believe there's been some months in the past couple years when I havn't run orals. I think in the past year there's been about 3 months total when I didn't run orals... and some months have been just dbol pre-workout on training days. actually, the only orals I've run in the past year have been dbol and methyltrienolone.. with a little winstrol here and there. dbol's usually a full syringe preworkout, so 150mg.. sometimes 100mg. MT is usually 1-2mg for a few weeks at a time, sometimes along with the dbol.. sometimes 1cc mt (1mg) and 2cc dbol 100mg preworkout.
oh wow.
I was worried because I ran 25mg of hdrol for like 14 weeks.
I think ill survive.
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gear use for the past few months has been pretty haphazard though... i'll go about 8-11days between shots, and I think about 2 of my last 8-10 injection days have been 4 full syringes, otherwise it's been just 6cc's of a combination of test and deca each at 400mg/cc. for instance, today I did 4cc test and 2cc deca (1600 test and 800 deca).. about 12days ago I did 6cc of each.. about 8-9days before that it was 2cc of each, ect...
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oh wow.
I was worried because I ran 25mg of hdrol for like 14 weeks.
I think ill survive.
only stuff I get concerned with is running tren with winstrol, or tren with anadrol, or tren with winstrol and anadrol... any combination... if I don't drink tons of water, my piss is freaking damn near orange. lol... but I've had LiverFunctionTests while on that combination (and a rather large dose.. I believe 200-250 drol with 150-200 winstrol with about 200mg tren ever couple days) and my LFT was only in the 60's I believe.. maybe 80's.. but still, I was expecting it in the 120-140 range (which is pretty high, but definitely not un-fixable).
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gear use for the past few months has been pretty haphazard though... i'll go about 8-11days between shots, and I think about 2 of my last 8-10 injection days have been 4 full syringes, otherwise it's been just 6cc's of a combination of test and deca each at 400mg/cc. for instance, today I did 4cc test and 2cc deca (1600 test and 800 deca).. about 12days ago I did 6cc of each.. about 8-9days before that it was 2cc of each, ect...
Damn! Why do almost 2 grams of test??
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Crazy seeing people run these orals for so long when I'm worried about liver cancer when running epistane for 4 weeks. :-X :-[
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Damn! Why do almost 2 grams of test??
because 4g's has me in pain for a week.
that... and I have unlimited supply. ;D how many here, if they had unlimited supply and could use whatever they wanted as much as they wanted, would only use 500mg test/wk?
I could run test/tren/mast/npp/drol/primo/var/ect... all year round. but I don't. If I have no reason to be hard and separated, I run just test and deca (and dbol), and training feels good. I feel strong with good pumps, ect... when I want to harden up just a lil, i'll switch out the deca for tren at maybe 5-700/wk.. rare that I go up to a gram of tren, although I may in a few weeks (i gotta schedule a Dr Apt.. see if i can get some klonopin at .5mg before bed, and probably a script for captopril for BP).... i have access to anything, and i only run a few things at once and keep it simple, so i think i show at least a little restraint. lol.... no sense running Munzer-cycles year around. you see where it got him.
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violent side tricep
:D
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Crazy seeing people run these orals for so long when I'm worried about liver cancer when running epistane for 4 weeks. :-X :-[
Same here, I tak one pill and start getting parranoid
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I do like ESFitness
He is a good poster
I'm sure most of the story are true
Has good knowledge
Just gets worked up to easily.
When TA was giving out all the info about him I was definitely on ESF side!
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I do like ESFitness
He is a good poster
I'm sure most of the story are true
Has good knowledge
Just gets worked up to easily.
When TA was giving out all the info about him I was definitely on ESF side!
shit move by ta. Bjt was quite funny to see it hit back on him amd his backpeddling in the thread
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shit move by ta. Bjt was quite funny to see it hit back on him amd his backpeddling in the thread
Yes it was. . It totally blew up in his face. lol
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I have seen this guy on the steroid/bodybuilding forums since the day I started reading them pretty much. It's impossible for me to know if he makes some of it up but my impression is that it's probably true.
He's a crazy, aggressive risk taker. What's the problem people have with this? That he's too small to be doing so much? That he's lying about the dosages to appear cool? Maybe but anyone who knows anything knows that tons of drugs don't automatically make you a pro, if the fibers and attachments aren't there to begin with there's nothing you can do. But even in his case more drugs means more muscle... even if it's less muscle than someone taking 10 times less or whatever. How many drugs is reasonable for someone to take, when is it worth it? There's no clear cut answer to this, everyone has their own opinion.
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shit move by ta. Bjt was quite funny to see it hit back on him amd his backpeddling in the thread
What would Kim jong- il have done to him for doing such a thing? Please explain in detail
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Cool dude. Pretty legit badass to boot.
Kind of guy I wouldnt mind hanging out with if I go stateside. 8)
Seems to melt way too easily here though. ;D
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ESF feeling like Vince Mcmahon in this thread.
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I think that The Experiment is great. He takes a LOT of shit here, some of it he takes better than others. I would be crying like a little girl if I had incoming like he does daily.
I am more of a "low dose" guy, but I can appreciate the protocols of our elders. Just like with most things slightly dangerous: you go first.
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I'm surprisingly healthy, aside from my bp which is about 135/85, give or take 5 points on each depending on if I've had pre-workout that day.
and my liver enzymes are 'high', but they're about 1/4 of what they were when I was drinking about a decade ago (fuck that seems like a long time).
all my heart and cardio are good/normal.
whenever I get bloodwork im expecting to see something that says "woa.. time to come off" but nothing ever stands out.
the only 'bad' thing I have seems to be an ulcer.. most likely from the liquid orals.. and most likely not the liquid AAS, but the ancillary stuff that I get from other ugl's (not my own), which seem to be made with isopropyl alcohol instead of the peg300 or ora-sweet that I use (peg300 is used in many laxitives, I doubt that's causing the ulcer).
Yeah you're as fit as a fiddle dude ::)
You just undercut whatever credibility you had...you take gear, don't train consistently and don't diet at all.
That's what know-nothing morons do.
PS...you realize high BP is part of heart/cardio right ?
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I think esf is one of the few real dudes on here.
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And i mean few
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Every once in a while he'll get somewhere close to the truth.
I could care less though. Interesting guy and one of those types that you go smack across the face on here when you get bored just cause he's fun to spar with.
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Yeah you're as fit as a fiddle dude ::)
You just undercut whatever credibility you had...you take gear, don't train consistently and don't diet at all.
That's what know-nothing morons do.
PS...you realize high BP is part of heart/cardio right ?
I think someone may have hit on the truth earlier, maybe he doesnt take what he claims, he just does it to appear the reckless hero.
If he were using the dosages he claims he should be way better than what he is, his last pics just show massive SEO/Synthol use in the delts, thats it.
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What would Kim jong- il have done to him for doing such a thing? Please explain in detail
put him on a hill and order his soldiers to shoot mortas on him
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Yeah you're as fit as a fiddle dude ::)
You just undercut whatever credibility you had...you take gear, don't train consistently and don't diet at all.
That's what know-nothing morons do.
PS...you realize high BP is part of heart/cardio right ?
lol that sounds like me
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that... and I have unlimited supply. ;D how many here, if they had unlimited supply and could use whatever they wanted as much as they wanted, would only use 500mg test/wk?
Because test is so expensive? ::)
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Because test is so expensive? ::)
I could use 4gms a week of test if I wanted to, it isnt cost that stops me, its rationality and sense.
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I could use 4gms a week of test if I wanted to, it isnt cost that stops me, its rationality and sense.
I you used 4g of test...please send me an updated pic of the even bigger striated glutes if you don't mind.
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I have this weird thing about going over 3 cc's a week. I just can't ever see myself doing it.
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He reminds me of the great SuckMyMuscle (RIP)
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One of my favorite posters he entertains for sure and I feel less guilty about my 1.5-2 grams "blasts"
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I like ESF. He's full of fucked up stories I really enjoy reading. For me, the best poster of "his kind" is BFG followed closely by ESF.
Do I believe he takes crazy amounts he claims? Sure, why not? I mean, if Bostin Loyd can run 13g/wk leading up to a show, why is 6g/wk unbelievable?
I, like many other people, wish he would post a pic at his best. I mean there's already multiple pics up of the guy, shouldn't be an excuse not to post another one with face cropped out. Hell, even "noticeable" tattoos cropped out. But pic or no pic, I'll still read his posts and respect his honesty and knowledge.
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I have this weird thing about going over 3 cc's a week. I just can't ever see myself doing it.
give it some time and you will..i was just like that the first years..then after my 6 year break i started with 2.5 grams and it was line magic. Grew fast as fuck..can send a 4 months after pkc if you want
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Ontopic: esf is best korea approved...i dont believe the cuitarstring story but enjoy his posts in the steroidforum
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give it some time and you will..i was just like that the first years..then after my 6 year break i started with 2.5 grams and it was line magic. Grew fast as fuck..can send a 4 months after pkc if you want
Sure just make sure there's no clothes in the way bro.
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ESF gets blasted on this board. At times, he deserves it.
The dude gets a beating, but still fights back, I like that shit.
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ESF gets blasted on this board. At times, he deserves it.
The dude gets a beating, but still fights back, I like that shit.
Sometimes he goes all prison-yard on folks and scares the shit out of them. Lmao. The best was TA, who started the shit and then got the thread nuked because it didn't work out at all how he thought it would.
Don't want nothing, don't start nothing.
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Sure just make sure there's no clothes in the way bro.
haha will do later today but i trust you to not send it to roger bacon cause he is outed and will jurk to the pic
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Seems knowledgeable and experienced about gear/bodybuilding.
It's when he talks about other subjects that I grow skeptical, but who knows. I do give him props for dealing with the two posters who really pushed him.... haven't heard much from TA or Icelord since they stepped to him :D
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gear use for the past few months has been pretty haphazard though... i'll go about 8-11days between shots, and I think about 2 of my last 8-10 injection days have been 4 full syringes, otherwise it's been just 6cc's of a combination of test and deca each at 400mg/cc. for instance, today I did 4cc test and 2cc deca (1600 test and 800 deca).. about 12days ago I did 6cc of each.. about 8-9days before that it was 2cc of each, ect...
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I did 20 mg Dbol for 2 days. I was worried my liver would give out so I stopped. No kidding.
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put him on a hill and order his soldiers to shoot mortas on him
lol! No dogs?
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I did 20 mg Dbol for 2 days. I was worried my liver would give out so I stopped. No kidding.
Wolfrittner contributes to a thread about ESFitness without posting the billboard pic...now there's a first for everything.
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I dont' care if anybody disagrees with me, it's the disrespect that I respond poorly to (being where I've been, if you speak disrespectfully to someone, you know that that's an immediate fight... doesn't translate well here, and many guys think it's 'nothing' to be disrespectfull on here. one day somebody will talk to someone in 'real life' like they talk to people on here and that someone will be somebody like me and they won't be expecting the reaction they get)... I also don't care if anybody 'sides' with me.
and the 'stories' that people make fun of, thinking it's not true? like fighting/submission grappling in prison? happens at a lot of prisons. using a guitar string to stitch a cut? so what? guitar string is smaller and sharper than a sewing needle (which is the only alternative, other than going to the Medical office and then going to the 'hole), any boy-scout could do it. I dont' see what the big deal is... not like your using the guitar sting as thread, it's just the needle... and the '6g sweet spot'? that was referring to the common/average dosage for guys at national level npc/ifbb. not like that's a big secret that only I have access to or something.
hahahah clam down gloria.
trust me sunshine, the shit i say on here, to you, or to anyone else id have no trouble saying to your face. if you cant take criticism then thats your beef.
ie id have no trouble telling you i find your tales highly entertaining, and highly fictional. if you needed clarification, id be happy to tell you that you are full of shit.
have a nice day, cupcake.
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Wolfrittner contributes to a thread about ESFitness without posting the billboard pic...now there's a first for everything.
Hahahaha! I didn't want to step on his Poll.
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hahahah clam down gloria.
trust me sunshine, the shit i say on here, to you, or to anyone else id have no trouble saying to your face. if you cant take criticism then thats your beef.
ie id have no trouble telling you i find your tales highly entertaining, and highly fictional. if you needed clarification, id be happy to tell you that you are full of shit.
have a nice day, cupcake.
that's ok.. feel free to disrespect me to my face and don't be surprised with what happens and don't be a bitch and run to the police.
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It sounds like "wolfritter" and "ESFitness" need to meet up for a swordfight.
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that's ok.. feel free to disrespect me to my face and don't be surprised with what happens and don't be a bitch and run to the police.
Judo chop?
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doesn't matter how big and tuff a guy thinks he is.. if you run your mouth to the wrong person and talk to them like you talk to people on internet msg boards, you can be in for a big surprise. some ppl have been through different situations and have a zero tolerance policy for that sort of thing and have no moral or ethical qualms with teaching the person a lesson. the person willing to go the furthest usually wins.
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Why would you expect to run into anyone here? Zero chance, really.
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doesn't matter how big and tuff a guy thinks he is.. if you run your mouth to the wrong person and talk to them like you talk to people on internet msg boards, you can be in for a big surprise. some ppl have been through different situations and have a zero tolerance policy for that sort of thing and have no moral or ethical qualms with teaching the person a lesson. the person willing to go the furthest usually wins.
Yep, some people would sink as low as pulling a gun on someone if they asked them for ID.
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ES-Shitness reminds me of gh15. Strikes me as a guy who is just parrotting what he read online.
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Good poster - has certainly been there and done that.
yup. been around the block a few...
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15% reasonable haha ;D
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Reasonable body fat.
Translation: completely untrained whatsoever.
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that's ok.. feel free to disrespect me to my face and don't be surprised with what happens and don't be a bitch and run to the police.
what exactly would you do you me?
you try too hard bro. you're soft. you talk too big and too much, and therein lies your whole problem.
there are some legit tough guys on this site. your not one of them. save your act for the next circus that comes to town.
hope this helps.
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Yep, some people would sink as low as pulling a gun on someone if they asked them for ID.
Piss me off tomorrow and this is what will happen. ;D
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Seems like a knowledgable poster.
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that's ok.. feel free to disrespect me to my face and don't be surprised with what happens and don't be a bitch and run to the police.
pipe down sally before you get a slap.
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The "I"m a hard MFer breh, come at me and consequences will never be the same" act is genuinely silly -- who comes to a site like getbig and gets outraged at trolling, threatening said anonymous trolls behind proxies with violent acts that "they [everybody else] won't hear about"? The claims to supernatural investment acumen -- 20% return a year -- are also laughable.
Still, when ESfatness isn't getting carried away, he does have insights into a variety of topics and the board is better for it.
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Judo chop?
:D
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The "I"m a hard MFer breh, come at me and consequences will never be the same" act is genuinely silly -- who comes to a site like getbig and gets outraged at trolling, threatening said anonymous trolls behind proxies with violent acts that "they [everybody else] won't hear about"? The claims to supernatural investment acumen -- 20% return a year -- are also laughable.
Still, when ESfatness isn't getting carried away, he does have insights into a variety of topics and the board is better for it.
You think this is an act?
Maybe you'd like to take this one outside pal? PM me your coordinates and ill kindly show you the dorsal aspect of my heel via a roundhouse kick of death.
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what exactly would you do you me?
you try too hard bro. you're soft. you talk too big and too much, and therein lies your whole problem.
there are some legit tough guys on this site. your not one of them. save your act for the next circus that comes to town.
hope this helps.
oh jesus lol.
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You think this is an act?
Maybe you'd like to take this one outside pal? PM me your coordinates and ill kindly show you the dorsal aspect of my heel via a roundhouse kick of death.
Your roundhouse shit always makes me smile, Chiro.
Pro Tip: The kick doesn't involve the heel. Not as exciting as it sounds; it's more like a cross (punch) with the leg. Not a spin kick, if that's what you were thinking.
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Your roundhouse shit always makes me smile, Chiro.
Pro Tip: The kick doesn't involve the heel. Not as exciting as it sounds; it's more like a cross (punch) with the leg. Not a spin kick, if that's what you were thinking.
The last person who critiqued my form ended up drinking their dinner through a straw for 3 months.
Choose your next words wisely.
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The last person who critiqued my form ended up drinking their dinner through a straw for 3 months.
Choose your next words wisely.
:)
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rofl
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Your roundhouse shit always makes me smile, Chiro.
This is not a laughing matter
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Shit, that response was worth two.
:) :)
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This is not a laughing matter
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funny how
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You think this is an act?
Maybe you'd like to take this one outside pal? PM me your coordinates and ill kindly show you the dorsal aspect of my heel via a roundhouse kick of death.
ESfatness also always uses the expression 'ect' instead of the proper 'etc.', something which rustles my nazi grammatic jimmies.
Come at me and what will happen won't be known by anyone
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ESfatness also always uses the expression 'ect' instead of 'etc.', something which rustles my nazi grammatic jimmies to the core of the meat of my soul
Come at me and what will happen won't be known by anyone
Wasn't gonna mention it, but yeah.
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Any guy who can deliver a brutal hall of fame owning like this one is an internets legend as far as I'm concerned:
"you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid."
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The "I"m a hard MFer breh, come at me and consequences will never be the same" act is genuinely silly -- who comes to a site like getbig and gets outraged at trolling, threatening said anonymous trolls behind proxies with violent acts that "they [everybody else] won't hear about"? The claims to supernatural investment acumen -- 20% return a year -- are also laughable.
Still, when ESfatness isn't getting carried away, he does have insights into a variety of topics and the board is better for it.
I can't speak for the other stuff, but if anyone says they can promise you a return of 20%/year, do yourself a favor and call the cops. Whatever they are doing is illegal.
Anyone that can promise or make that kind of return, year in and out, is either doing something illegal or doing something, well, illegal..
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P.S. I think ESFitness is entertaining and has a place on GetBig. Someone here said he once sewed an open wound with nothing but guitar string during one of his stints in prison. That alone makes him a fine addition to the forum.
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I can't speak for the other stuff, but if anyone says they can promise you a return of 20%/year, do yourself a favor and call the cops. Whatever they are doing is illegal.
Anyone that can promise or make that kind of return, year in and out, is either doing something illegal or doing something, well, illegal..
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P.S. I think ESFitness is entertaining and has a place on GetBig. Someone here said he once sewed an open wound with nothing but guitar string during one of his stints in prison. That alone makes him a fine addition to the forum.
Yeah, even the VERY few on earth who are the very best and have averaged 20%+ cannot GUARANTEE such a return in any single year, much less every year. There are always fluctuations from year to year, a few underperfoming years, and even the odd losing year here and there even among the very best.
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Guy gets hotheaded, of an occasion, but then, who doesn't. And his stories veer to fanciful, but he's more than acquitted himself, by Getbig standards.
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Anyone that can promise or make that kind of return, year in and out, is either doing something illegal or doing something, well, illegal..
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I like this quote from the Joe Rogan Podcast, just listened to it 8)
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Yeah, even the VERY few on earth who are the very best and have averaged 20%+ cannot GUARANTEE such a return in any single year, much less every year. There are always fluctuations from year to year, a few underperfoming years, and even the odd losing year here and there even among the very best.
are you talking investors or traders? as an investor, you're trying to pick a winner.. an undervalued company.
if you're a trader, it's not hard at all to be up .5%-1% per week.. you're not just picking long term investments. you're trading everyday long and short. picking a stock that drops 5% in a week or even just a few days is easy compared to picking one that pops 5% in a month.
and we're not even talking options... covered calls and whatnot.
you're making it seem as if there's some magic formula that only 'the elite of the elite' know about.
there isn't. so long as you're good with numbers and can remember numbers for years ago... and so long as you most importantly, PAY ATTENTION... it's not hard to make money.
20% per year is 1/3 of a % per week... if you can't trade and make 1/3 of a % in a week, you'd just better put your money in a mutual fund or an index fund and make 10-12% like everyone else too lazy to pay attention.
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It sounds like "wolfritter" and "ESFitness" need to meet up for a swordfight.
:o :o :o :o Terrible thought.
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Any guy who can deliver a brutal hall of fame owning like this one is an internets legend as far as I'm concerned:
"you're not equipped for this, tree-hugger. business is not something you're versed in, just tap out.
I've owned businesses, managed businesses, and invested in businesses. Clippers ain't a public company, I assume sterling owns a controlling share, if not 100%. you can't force a man to sell his business. if he were CEO, the board of directors could vote on terminating him, but he's not elected (hired). it's like forcing Sergey and the other guy to sell Google.com..... you can't do it. Sure, you can fire Eric Schmidt (although I believe he's stepped down already... beside the point), but you can't force Sergey and other guy (the owners) to sell.... the same way you can't force zuckerberg to sell his interest in Facebook..... the same way Annaly Capital can't force me to sell my shares because of something other shareholders see me posting on Getbig. that's not how it works kid."
ROFL
Glad other people can appreciate that!!!!!!!!! ;D
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ROFL
Glad other people can appreciate that!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Fabricated Fables Of Peace
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at esfitness not you.
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at esfitness not you.
:D :D
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:D :D
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How much were you spending on STCG taxes? Transaction costs? Not to mention realized losses.
Sorry, I don't believe anyone who says they made $25k a year consistently on $100k for any length of time. You might have an occasional 50% year, an occasional 25% year, the odd losing year, the occasional flat year or single digit year, a few low double digit years, maybe above 50 or even above 100% once in a blue moon in a year like '09.
If you're doing 5-10 trades a day at $5 a trade, you're spending a fortune on that $100k just in transaction costs each year.
You'd need to have millions or at least other sources of income to make it worth your time even IF you were consistently hitting 25%. Why would someone quit working to make $25k a year?
Was that before or after expenses and taxes?
95% of traders fail. If you were among that 5%, why did you stop? If you were truly good enough to hit 25% at some point in the year then stop for the rest of the year every year, you're one in a trillion. Congrats.
are you talking investors or traders? as an investor, you're trying to pick a winner.. an undervalued company.
if you're a trader, it's not hard at all to be up .5%-1% per week.. you're not just picking long term investments. you're trading everyday long and short. picking a stock that drops 5% in a week or even just a few days is easy compared to picking one that pops 5% in a month.
and we're not even talking options... covered calls and whatnot.
you're making it seem as if there's some magic formula that only 'the elite of the elite' know about.
there isn't. so long as you're good with numbers and can remember numbers for years ago... and so long as you most importantly, PAY ATTENTION... it's not hard to make money.
20% per year is 1/3 of a % per week... if you can't trade and make 1/3 of a % in a week, you'd just better put your money in a mutual fund or an index fund and make 10-12% like everyone else too lazy to pay attention.
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I can't speak for the other stuff, but if anyone says they can promise you a return of 20%/year, do yourself a favor and call the cops. Whatever they are doing is illegal.
Anyone that can promise or make that kind of return, year in and out, is either doing something illegal or doing something, well, illegal..
"1"
P.S. I think ESFitness is entertaining and has a place on GetBig. Someone here said he once sewed an open wound with nothing but guitar string during one of his stints in prison. That alone makes him a fine addition to the forum.
Are you saying piano wire guy might be some sort of criminal? ;D
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How much were you spending on STCG taxes? Transaction costs? Not to mention realized losses.
Sorry, I don't believe anyone who says they made $25k a year consistently on $100k for any length of time. You might have an occasional 50% year, an occasional 25% year, the odd losing year, the occasional flat year or single digit year, a few low double digit years, maybe above 50 or even above 100% once in a blue moon in a year like '09.
If you're doing 5-10 trades a day at $5 a trade, you're spending a fortune on that $100k just in transaction costs each year.
You'd need to have millions or at least other sources of income to make it worth your time even IF you were consistently hitting 25%. Why would someone quit working to make $25k a year?
Was that before or after expenses and taxes?
95% of traders fail. If you were among that 5%, why did you stop? If you were truly good enough to hit 25% at some point in the year then stop for the rest of the year every year, you're one in a trillion. Congrats.
used interactive brokers from 07-10.. probably 70% of my profit was from short's. mind you I was in prison at that time and trading by proxy and had to factor in telephone calls into the cost of each trade. usually 3 phone calls per day. initially each call cost me about $4 (long distance about a 7min call), but we figured out how to use Magic Jack so each call was listed as a local call so the cost of each call dropped to less than $2. total cash in the fund was initially about $80k and grew to about $200k with added investments, not counting what was borrowed from IB. I believe during that time I averaged 17% returns after transaction/commissions (ib commission, not mine) (the phone calls came out of my profit, not the funds) of that I took a percentage. I had 3 investors. a friend of mine and his sister and the friends partner (life partner, not biz partner)... tax burden fell on the sister each year.
I got out because my investors pulled out (retired and moved to Israel and wanted funds in a long term div/income account), after they pulled out the sister pulled out as well.... after that I had other stuff to deal with and didn't have the time (or money) to trade. juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
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Dude`s been around forever on the boards.........real long time board vet.
I laugh at some of his stuff,but he`s OK in my book...........I just bust everyones balls occasionally........noth ing personal.
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I've heard that jews look for incarcerated felons to do their investing.
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ESF is solid. This thread is a great big fail.
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I kinda like the guy.
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ESF is solid. This thread is a great big fail.
No kidding. 5 pages of "he's a decent guy and a good poster."
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No kidding. 5 pages of "he's a decent guy and a good poster."
do you agree that we should track cpepehisi down and administer BCF approved roundhouses?
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do you agree that we should track cpepehisi down and administer BCF approved roundhouses?
Yes he should post his coordinates at once or be known from hence forth and forth hence as a sissy.
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Yes he should post his coordinates at once or be known from hence forth and forth hence as a sissy.
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isnt it lol-worthy that the Oh PEE is named after black people lotion.
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Are you saying piano wire guy might be some sort of criminal? ;D
;D
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Half the people on here are scared cop callers. ESF is not like this...
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Not bad, especially considering you were in the pen. ;D
I've been investing for 20 years, and been investing other people's money for 10.
When you do it a long time and see how so many good and not so good things happen, you develop a keen respect / fear of the markets and realize that risk is always there and cannot be totally eliminated, only managed. No matter how good you are or smart you are or how hard you work, you'll be wrong sometimes - whether long, short, with options, commodities, or whatever. And the bigger and more volatile your positions, the bigger the gains AND losses are generally.
I actually day traded for a while when I first got into investing. I had not been out of college very long, had just made $100k on the sale of some property, and I had an ego the size of Mt Rushmore.
It took me a while, but before I lost too much money day trading, I came to the realization that I was not and probably would not be the best ever, and that all that mattered was eventually getting rich while protecting my money. I realized that most of my gains were going to be from day to day based upon what happened or was almost always announced OUTSIDE of market hours - that going to 100% cash at the end of the day every day was cheating me out of lots of gains and eating up big chunks of principal with transaction costs. Then there are taxes.
I eventually came around to investing on fundamentals, which is what I still do with 90-95% of my time and money. I still do the odd day trade when the opportunity presents itself, and I also use puts and calls liberally in my main investment accounts. Mainly bottom-up investing - it's very, very difficult to predict what the broad markets will do - especially short term. Buy on good fundamentals, sell / short on declining fundamentals. Diversify. Use puts to protect downside on more volatile long positions and to short companies that appear overvalued or to otherwise be declining for one reason or another. Calls for upside speculation, covered calls for income.
I've been religiously maxing out my retirement accounts I've had over the years (IRA / 401k / SEP) for nearly 2 decades, and I've put in as much money as I can into my main investment accounts. I dollar cost average into both with weekly cash infusions. My more conservative retirement accounts have averaged roughly 12% over nearly 20 years, and I've done a good 15% in my more aggressive and more volatile main accounts over that same time. I've had the odd triple digit year, and also the odd double digit losing year.
I could retire now at 44 and probably live a very comfortable life IF I was more certain about this country's future. But I'm not, so I keep working. I may leave the US if things keep going in the direction they're going.
used interactive brokers from 07-10.. probably 70% of my profit was from short's. mind you I was in prison at that time and trading by proxy and had to factor in telephone calls into the cost of each trade. usually 3 phone calls per day. initially each call cost me about $4 (long distance about a 7min call), but we figured out how to use Magic Jack so each call was listed as a local call so the cost of each call dropped to less than $2. total cash in the fund was initially about $80k and grew to about $200k with added investments, not counting what was borrowed from IB. I believe during that time I averaged 17% returns after transaction/commissions (ib commission, not mine) (the phone calls came out of my profit, not the funds) of that I took a percentage. I had 3 investors. a friend of mine and his sister and the friends partner (life partner, not biz partner)... tax burden fell on the sister each year.
I got out because my investors pulled out (retired and moved to Israel and wanted funds in a long term div/income account), after they pulled out the sister pulled out as well.... after that I had other stuff to deal with and didn't have the time (or money) to trade. juice wasn't worth the squeeze.