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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Coach is Back! on January 11, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
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Looks like a solid workout right there.
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When will this nonsense stop
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crossfit, the workout of randomness
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Imagine if Ronnie wouldn't have released "The Unbelievable" what a different world it would have been.
No fucking random " light weight buddy" in every damn video which involves some sort of weight related thingy
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Awesome 1/2 rep. Very Basile-like results.
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These keep getting better and better.
Nothing beats that one you posted the other day; with the kid falling backward at the 0:40 mark!
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awesome :D
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I don't get why Coach would frown upon this. That's a proper Tebowing squat.
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Can't help it....I'm on a roll :D
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Can't help it....I'm on a roll :D
Pfft. Less cross-fit fail than construction fail. Lag bolts, and some metal framing, lads. Oh brother.
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Amazing cat like reflexes.
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Brutal bathtube in the garden!
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;D
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I believe Coach has already purchased a pair
(http://fcstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/air-jordan-toddler-ajf-12-basketball-shoe.jpg)
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Wow, Crossfit is a franchise monster.... how long until CF jumps the shark?
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Another fitness gimmick to rake in the coin.
gh15,aka Blockhead/Special Ed should out these liars/scammers on his new site which will be debuting in March of this year. ;D
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I believe Coach has already purchased a pair
(http://fcstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/air-jordan-toddler-ajf-12-basketball-shoe.jpg)
The must come with built in lifts.
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What a weak loser. CrossFit sux!
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NEVER EVER BEFORE SEEN STRENGTH, CROSSFIT IS KING :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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total stud
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what total waste of time to watch that pathetic lift also why does he have on shorts and pants what the fuck.
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weak fag >:(
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I'd say he weighs around 160 lbs. So he's lifting almost 500 lbs, is that weak? he may look like a fa-g but the weight is OK I guess ???
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only queers drop weights
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epic faggotry
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What a weak loser. CrossFit sux!
hi Rob Orlando
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i like the emphasis on physicak fitness with crossfit. not chafing inner thighs !
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crossfitters are the new tapotters >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Crossfag alarm.
Look at his back - way too much weight.
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You are weak if you have to announce the weight in bodyweight multiplier. What the fuck does that multiplier even mean? I understand if someone wants to go from a 2x bw squat to 2.5x bw squat to jump higher, or someone who wants to go from 1.3 bw pull up to 1.7 bw pull up for the full iron cross and these guys announce their progress in this manner, but what...the...fuck does a 3x bw mean in this context? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING JACK SHIT!
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AMAZING EFFORT!!! ;D
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Most of the guys who are strong built their strength using traditional methods.
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What a weak loser. CrossFit sux!
ChichirelloMagnet, what the fuck kind of name is that...oh wait, I see what you did there. Whose gimmick are you?
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Here's a crossfitter at 180lbs lifting 341lbs over head. I'm sure most bodybuilders would have no trouble doing this. ::)
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You are weak if you have to announce the weight in bodyweight multiplier. What the fuck does that multiplier even mean? I understand if someone wants to go from a 2x bw squat to 2.5x bw squat to jump higher, or someone who wants to go from 1.3 bw pull up to 1.7 bw pull up for the full iron cross and these guys announce their progress in this manner, but what...the...fuck does a 3x bw mean in this context? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING JACK SHIT!
It is evidence of an advanced lifter who hasn't spent his time fucking around in the gym
here, read this (http://www.leangains.com/2011/09/fuckarounditis.html)
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what total waste of time to watch that pathetic lift also why does he have on shorts and pants what the fuck.
That is a classic cross-fit uniform (tights on a man indoors with short gym shorts on top). I think it is intended to attract a mate of arbitrary gender.
You are weak if you have to announce the weight in bodyweight multiplier.
x2, I hate when people do this shit. Like when some twat announces "I bench XXX pounds, that is strong for YYY bodyweight", they are already subconsciously acknowledging it's not a strong lift by having to add the "but I only weigh YYY" qualifier.
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Here's a crossfitter at 180lbs lifting 341lbs over head. I'm sure most bodybuilders would have no trouble doing this. ::)
I literally cringed over the first phase of that "c&j", the jerk was bad but not so terrible.
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What a weak loser. CrossFit sux!
Ummm, thats not crosfit, that's a 1RM.
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I hate to see guys like that strong teen vid who just fucking collappse into a squat and bounce up using momentum.
Strong fucking kid no doubt,but I wouldn`t want to be his knees when he gets older.
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Crossfitters are funny when they mention that someone has a 6 minute mile. Come on. That's 1:30 a lap. I once ran 2 laps with that pace and I have never been any fucking athlete.
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Folks who run a meet would be pissed about how he dropped the bar like that.
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Looks strong to me.
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crossfitters are the new tapotters >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
^^^^ this
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Crossfitters are funny when they mention that someone has a 6 minute mile. Come on. That's 1:30 a lap. I once ran 2 laps with that pace and I have never been any fucking athlete.
If you can run a 6 minute mile you are in decent shape. A 3 minute half mile, no. It's not going to impress a track athlete but having a 6 minute mile shows your in decent cardio shape.
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I've been able to run a six minute mile since I was like 12 and I'm not even a good endurance athlete.
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I hate when people deadlift with olympic lifting shoes on. So stupid.
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I know most people on a BB forum would say it is gay, but what is your opinion on it? I mean it still involves lifting weights and so on but also includes running etc for fitness. I think its a great challenge if you are into lifting but want to try something new.
And I guess you could change up the exercises as you wish, like example replace the C+J with the squat. I'm still currently researching it so I can't really ellaborate. Opinions?
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filt
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I think they fail at putting their own ideas into practice
There is no structure in their programs it's at random and 99% of their members that have been recorded on youtube show very bad form on any weight exercise and even worse strength
they hire some badasses now zand then to do these routines on tape and it's impressive but those people are able to do that by proper training and roids generally for years, and pretend cross fit is what made them able to do this
in a nutshell i think it's a scam and dangerous since poor exercise form and structure. some have pointed out their mad programing may actually cause rhabdomyolysis. This means that there is a breakdown of muscle fibers that can be released into the blood stream. This type of activity in the body can cause kidney failure.
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i dont belong to the crossfit community, but i do enjoy doing crossfit WoDs and complexes once or twice a week. i think its really fun.
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I don't personally like crossfit the way that it is currently taught and sold because it is reckless in the way they teach people how to do olympic style lifts...they don't. As an experienced lifter, I thought I knew a lot, and then started working out with a guy who did olympic lifting for years. Although he commended me on my overall form for deads, clean and snatch, clean and press, squats, etc... he pointed out many things I was doing wrong that could've possibly led to injury. I corrected these things, and now I feel confident in the explosive lifts. But I've been lifting since i was 12. I knew how to lift, and probably wouldn't have wrecked my back because I was used to the movements involved. If you take people who aren't experienced lifters, and start having them to high intensity routines involving complex movements, in which the goal is conditioning over form right from the start, you're going to fuck up people's bodies. The "kipping" pullups or whatever... those make my shoulders hurt just looking at them.
If you want to get a great workout without all the bullshit of a crossfit gym, do this:
clean and press x15
rest 10 seconds
pushups for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
squats for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
ab wheel for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
repeat a few times
that can all be done in a tiny power rock or corner of the gym, and will melt fat.
As I said, there are some aspects of crossfit that are cool, like conditioning, but its a very dangerous game they play with people's bodies.
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I don't personally like crossfit the way that it is currently taught and sold because it is reckless in the way they teach people how to do olympic style lifts...they don't. As an experienced lifter, I thought I knew a lot, and then started working out with a guy who did olympic lifting for years. Although he commended me on my overall form for deads, clean and snatch, clean and press, squats, etc... he pointed out many things I was doing wrong that could've possibly led to injury. I corrected these things, and now I feel confident in the explosive lifts. But I've been lifting since i was 12. I knew how to lift, and probably wouldn't have wrecked my back because I was used to the movements involved. If you take people who aren't experienced lifters, and start having them to high intensity routines involving complex movements, in which the goal is conditioning over form right from the start, you're going to fuck up people's bodies. The "kipping" pullups or whatever... those make my shoulders hurt just looking at them.
If you want to get a great workout without all the bullshit of a crossfit gym, do this:
clean and press x15
rest 10 seconds
pushups for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
squats for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
ab wheel for 30 seconds
rest 10 seconds
repeat a few times
that can all be done in a tiny power rock or corner of the gym, and will melt fat.
As I said, there are some aspects of crossfit that are cool, like conditioning, but its a very dangerous game they play with people's bodies.
sounds fun, ill do this next week
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the women are hot
it promotes fitnerss
infact great fitness levels
seems a bit cultish
the women are hot
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Gay filt
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The local park where I walk my dog, has more and more young female Crossfitters working out there.
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I know most people on a BB forum would say it is gay, but what is your opinion on it?
I mean it still involves lifting weights and so on but also includes running etc for fitness.
I think its a great challenge if you are into lifting but want to try something new.
And I guess you could change up the exercises as you wish, like example replace the C+J with the squat.
I'm still currently researching it so I can't really ellaborate.
Opinions?
You've never read or seen my posts on this monstrosity of a cult? It's for people who have no concept of training.
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the women are hot
it promotes fitnerss
infact great fitness levels
seems a bit cultish
the women are hot
what they want you to think cross fit is about
(http://media.mademan.com/chickipedia/uploaded_photos/9/94/Maria_de-sexy-after-hot-eyes-young-chickipedia-smoking-hot_thumb_585x795.jpg)
what it is actually about
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What about something similar?
Like doing your traditional BB/strength workouts and incorporating sprints/jogging or other GPP.
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You've never read or seen my posts on this monstrosity of a cult? It's for people who have no concept of training.
No I haven't?
Do you have a link!
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What about something similar?
Like doing your traditional BB/strength workouts and incorporating sprints/jogging or other GPP.
The problem with the program is that there is no program, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. If you take an O-lift that shouldn't really be done for anymore than 3-5 reps and do it for 15, you start running into serious problems. Crossfit as a whole has the highest rate of injuries out any fitness program around not to mention the highest ER admissions do to rhabdo. Thats not good.
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The problem with the program is that there is no program, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. If you take an O-lift that shouldn't really be done for anymore than 3-5 reps and do it for 15, you start running into serious problems. Crossfit as a whole has the highest rate of injuries out any fitness program around not to mention the highest ER admissions do to rhabdo. Thats not good.
Maybe you can elaborate here coach, because back in my track days, we would do clean and press and deads into the 15 rep range all the time. granted, these weren't "heavy," but the goal was conditioning over lift. We had a CSCS design and oversee our program...if that's worth mentioning.
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Maybe you can elaborate here coach, because back in my track days, we would do clean and press and deads into the 15 rep range all the time. granted, these weren't "heavy," but the goal was conditioning over lift. We had a CSCS design and oversee our program...if that's worth mentioning.
O-lifts take along time to perfect. They should be done first in the workout because of the stress it puts on the CNS. The reps, really no matter what the weight and because it is a full body power exercise that loads the CNS almost immediately shouldn't be anymore than 3-5 reps. Anymore usually causes a breakdown in form which could lead to injuries. I'm not pandering here, but coincidentally I wrote this just a couple of days ago....
http://www.mpftrainingsystems.com/mpfblog.html
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what they want you to think cross fit is about
(http://media.mademan.com/chickipedia/uploaded_photos/9/94/Maria_de-sexy-after-hot-eyes-young-chickipedia-smoking-hot_thumb_585x795.jpg)
what it is actually about
she's an oly lifter
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she's an oly lifter
maria de la puente of course i know this
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If someone's goal is to bodybuild then CrossFit is a bad choice. However, if you're in a military environment or looking for something different to try it has some definite benefits. When I was in the Marine Corps we utilized portions of it to help folks in a group activity. The competitive nature of it along with different workouts to keep things from getting stale were specific pluses.
The cult aspect of it are no worse than most anything that the public takes too far. At least with this we get hot women and fit adults... it's not like anyone's trying to get people to drink the jim jones kool-aid at these gyms. It's not as bad as some folks on the boards make it out to be.
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Any questions?
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ha ha ha, ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Any questions?
Good Lord :(
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Good Lord :(
Just adds more job security for those of us putting their injuries back together. ;)
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The problem with the program is that there is no program, I'm not being sarcastic when I say that. If you take an O-lift that shouldn't really be done for anymore than 3-5 reps and do it for 15, you start running into serious problems. Crossfit as a whole has the highest rate of injuries out any fitness program around not to mention the highest ER admissions do to rhabdo. Thats not good.
Great comment Coach!
I agree 100% with you.
In the following years we'll see a lot Crossfit entusiast with back,shoulder and other related joint problem caused from the reckless training program used in Crossfit.
One mayor problem is also that 90% or maybe more of the Crossfit trainers do not know also the correct execution of the Olimpic and basic weight lifting movement.
I would not be surprised if we'll start seeing injured Crossfit entusiast sueing their trainer and Crossfit Gym for the injury and permanent damage done to their body caused by this Crossfit programs.
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Crossfit's biggest fallacy: It's super hard, so it gives super results. No no no no.
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Just because you bodybuild or powerlift don't assume you are in condition. Many couldn't run around a block without gassing. Top shelf cross fitters are in condition.
It reminds me of the two personal trainers at the local gym who were told by management it would be good for the gym if they entered the town 5k for charity. The talk was they knew they couldn't win against real runners but it would look good for them to enter and finish with a decent time. Both of these juiced mirror athletes looked like the picture of health with their muscles. As the last 10% came shuffling in toward the finish line where all the chubby soccer moms were finishing was the body gods looking like they were a minute away from having a heart attack. I'm sure they lost a lot of clients.
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Just because you bodybuild or powerlift don't assume you are in condition. Many couldn't run around a block without gassing. Top shelf cross fitters are in condition.
It reminds me of the two personal trainers at the local gym who were told by management it would be good for the gym if they entered the town 5k for charity. The talk was they knew they couldn't win against real runners but it would look good for them to enter and finish with a decent time. Both of these juiced mirror athletes looked like the picture of health with their muscles. As the last 10% came shuffling in toward the finish line where all the chubby soccer moms were finishing was the body gods looking like they were a minute away from having a heart attack. I'm sure they lost a lot of clients.
i agree
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Just because you bodybuild or powerlift don't assume you are in condition. Many couldn't run around a block without gassing. Top shelf cross fitters are in condition.
It reminds me of the two personal trainers at the local gym who were told by management it would be good for the gym if they entered the town 5k for charity. The talk was they knew they couldn't win against real runners but it would look good for them to enter and finish with a decent time. Both of these juiced mirror athletes looked like the picture of health with their muscles. As the last 10% came shuffling in toward the finish line where all the chubby soccer moms were finishing was the body gods looking like they were a minute away from having a heart attack. I'm sure they lost a lot of clients.
do you honestly think olympic level weightlifter could run 5k without appearing to be a minute away from having a heart attack?
same way when you put a 315 barbell in front of a long distance runner they wont be able to deadlift it without appearing to be a minute away from a rectal prolapse
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fat chicks and twinks on my facebook really like sharing how they just 'demolished' the 'WOD', along with a photo of a broken nail or scrape on their shins to show how Hardcore they are.
for that alone I hate it
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fat chicks and twinks on my facebook really like sharing how they just 'demolished' the 'WOD', along with a photo of a broken nail or scrape on their shins to show how Hardcore they are.
for that alone I hate it
this is what crossfit is all about
empowering physical losers thru delusions
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empowering physical losers thru delusions
yes!
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yes!
that's a major reason for the "jack of all trades master of none approach"
i prefer to call it what it really is
"suck at everything, claim you're all round"
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this is what crossfit is all about
empowering physical losers thru delusions
and hearing, "Paleo" over and over again... along with, "Fran" whatever the hell that is
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and hearing, "Paleo" over and over again... along with, "Fran" whatever the hell that is
and of course the obligitary quote of shit like 'pain is weakness leaving the body'.
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somehow crossfit brainwashes these losers into thinking snatching 200lbs with attrocious form is a vastly superior performance to benching 315 with good form
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we sometimes have a few guys come to the gym i go to who love to do high rep cleans and often clean and presses. always make completely over the top loud noises and yell and use 0 legs in the entire lift with a shitty weight. better just to do some high rep squats if u want a good cardio workout. high rep squats are awesome and kill ur lungs.
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I really enjoy bodybuilding and have gotten into the CrossFit sport aspect and really enjoy it, so I'm biased.
It's funny to hear "bodybuilders" complain about CrossFit, it's two completely separate things, one is not like the other. On top of that, complaining about form? Go to any gym, CrossFit or Global or Local, and take a gander around the barbell area. There's bad form with nearly everyone. In fact, it's so bad that when I, and I'd imagine most serious lifters, see good form it stands out. To knock a sport because some people who follow it have bad form is ignorance.
CF preaches FORM FORM FORM, over and over again, as well as mobility.
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CF preaches FORM FORM FORM, over and over again
i can tell
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fat chicks and twinks on my facebook really like sharing how they just 'demolished' the 'WOD', along with a photo of a broken nail or scrape on their shins to show how Hardcore they are.
for that alone I hate it
Spot fucking on.
I heard this gem in the locker room the other day, "If you're really good at CrossFit you're probably really good at most other sports too." ::)
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i can tell
what a stupid amount of plates for a light weight. epic trying to look they are strong olympic lifters when they are doing what, 40 kg?
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haha just viewed some of the video, jesus great use of the hips there to drive the bar up and great lockout!!! I could learn from these bitches.
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haha just viewed some of the video, jesus great use of the hips there to drive the bar up and great lockout!!! I could learn from these bitches.
"stick it"! etc these slogans these bitches shout at eachother sound like they belong in a cheesy porno
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do you honestly think olympic level weightlifter could run 5k without appearing to be a minute away from having a heart attack?
same way when you put a 315 barbell in front of a long distance runner they wont be able to deadlift it without appearing to be a minute away from a rectal prolapse
Actually, there are a few of us that really can run half marathons and deadlift over 300lbs but it has taken a lot of conditioning to get there.
Crossfit, meh. Just run, lift, do pushups and chinups and quit fuckin complicating everything.
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do you honestly think olympic level weightlifter could run 5k without appearing to be a minute away from having a heart attack?
same way when you put a 315 barbell in front of a long distance runner they wont be able to deadlift it without appearing to be a minute away from a rectal prolapse
You are arguing my point. The topic is crossfit and how many of the posts by bodybuilders and powerlifters are putting it down. Most top crossfitters could run a decent 5k and easily deadlift 315lbs. Being in condition is such an important part of being in shape.
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You are arguing my point. The topic is crossfit. Most top crossfitters could run a decent 5k and easily deadlift 315lbs. Being in condition is such an important part of being in shape.
but neither running 5 k nor deadlifting 315 are remotely impressive
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but neither running 5 k nor deadlifting 315 are remotely impressive
Anyone can run a 5k. It's a matter of time. Quite a difference between an 18 minute and a 30 minute 5K. Yes 315 isn't impressive either. Just making the point with the weight that was given by you.
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deadlift over 300lbs
You must be a beast.
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You must be a beast.
ha, yes I rule. ;D I have had disc problems in the past, don`t need to go down that road again.
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Being an all arounder is unnatural. Everyone has their preferences, and if you look at crossfitters you will notice that very fit but weaker lifters, and not so fit but stronger lifters are both big groups in crossfit. And how do you test all aroundness? You can't, or if you try it will take you years because there are so many ways an athlete can move himself and weights. And you can argue that if a person prepares for everything, he doesn't prepare for anything. There are scenarios where being somewhat fit and somewhat strong won't help you at all.
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Being an all arounder is unnatural. Everyone has their preferences, and if you look at crossfitters you will notice that very fit but weaker lifters, and not so fit but stronger lifters are both big groups in crossfit. And how do you test all aroundness? You can't, or if you try it will take you years because there are so many ways an athlete can move himself and weights. And you can argue that if a person prepares for everything, he doesn't prepare for anything. There are scenarios where being somewhat fit and somewhat strong won't help you at all.
Excellent point. (Natural) trainees simply cannot achieve greatness in more than one discipline.
A famous armchair scientist put it like this:
The mechanisms furthering adaptations in one trait - AMPK for mitochondrial biogenesis for endurance, suppress those that would have allowed optimal adaptation in the latter case, mTOR for muscle protein synthesis - all things being equal - looking at concurrent endurance/strength training vs strength training sans endurance training.
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Great conditioning, shit program, shit technique if that's what you call it. Injury waiting to happen if it hasn't already.
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Wrist, elbow and shoulder damage. And makes you fat if you look at those two.
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i can tell
Concern for Injury
A more pressing concern is the potential for injury. CrossFit WODs sometimes use Olympic lifts, like the snatch, for high repetitions when lifters are in a state of exhaustion. That worries almost everyone I interviewed.
"The problem has to do with fatigue and going to failure," says Stuart McGill, Ph.D., a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, Ontario. "Some exercises are conducive to this and others are not." McGill puts Olympic lifts in the "not" category.
"Repeating movements where form is compromised with fatigue really does not fit the philosophy of Olympic lifting to reduce injury risk and enhance performance."
Then there's the issue of coaching. "You can learn the mechanics of an Olympic lift in 2 days, but you can't develop enough of a proficiency to teach others," Krahn says. "The guy who's teaching you a complex movement may have very little knowledge about it."
Rhabdomyolysis is another health concern that's become associated with CrossFit over the years. "Rhabdo" can occur when muscles are worked so hard that the fibers break down, releasing the protein myoglobin into the bloodstream. In extreme cases, it can lead to kidney damage or even kidney failure. It's commonly seen in people with crush injuries, such as those from auto accidents.
Former U.S. Navy information systems technician Makimba Mimms was awarded $300,000 in damages from his local gym, the CrossFit affiliate training company, and his trainer for injuries he sustained during a CrossFit workout in 2005. Those injuries included rhabdomyolysis.
Rather than refute the association with potentially fatal injury—or at least try to change the subject—CrossFit has used it as proof of its intensity. The WOD that nearly killed Mimms was renamed "Makimba" and recategorized as a children's workout. The derision ignores not just the seriousness of Mimms's injuries but also the fact that no one is immune to rhabdo, including elite athletes. In January 2011, a local paper reported that 13 football players at the University of Iowa were hospitalized with rhabdo after a workout that included 100 squats with 50 percent of their 1-rep max. It wasn't a CrossFit workout, but it was in the same ballpark: a technically complex exercise performed for high repetitions under conditions of extreme fatigue.
http://health.yahoo.net/articles/fitness/inside-cult-crossfit?page=2
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Concern for Injury
A more pressing concern is the potential for injury. CrossFit WODs sometimes use Olympic lifts, like the snatch, for high repetitions when lifters are in a state of exhaustion. That worries almost everyone I interviewed.
"The problem has to do with fatigue and going to failure," says Stuart McGill, Ph.D., a professor of spine biomechanics at the University of Waterloo, Ontario. "Some exercises are conducive to this and others are not." McGill puts Olympic lifts in the "not" category.
"Repeating movements where form is compromised with fatigue really does not fit the philosophy of Olympic lifting to reduce injury risk and enhance performance."
Then there's the issue of coaching. "You can learn the mechanics of an Olympic lift in 2 days, but you can't develop enough of a proficiency to teach others," Krahn says. "The guy who's teaching you a complex movement may have very little knowledge about it."
Rhabdomyolysis is another health concern that's become associated with CrossFit over the years. "Rhabdo" can occur when muscles are worked so hard that the fibers break down, releasing the protein myoglobin into the bloodstream. In extreme cases, it can lead to kidney damage or even kidney failure. It's commonly seen in people with crush injuries, such as those from auto accidents.
Former U.S. Navy information systems technician Makimba Mimms was awarded $300,000 in damages from his local gym, the CrossFit affiliate training company, and his trainer for injuries he sustained during a CrossFit workout in 2005. Those injuries included rhabdomyolysis.
Rather than refute the association with potentially fatal injury—or at least try to change the subject—CrossFit has used it as proof of its intensity. The WOD that nearly killed Mimms was renamed "Makimba" and recategorized as a children's workout. The derision ignores not just the seriousness of Mimms's injuries but also the fact that no one is immune to rhabdo, including elite athletes. In January 2011, a local paper reported that 13 football players at the University of Iowa were hospitalized with rhabdo after a workout that included 100 squats with 50 percent of their 1-rep max. It wasn't a CrossFit workout, but it was in the same ballpark: a technically complex exercise performed for high repetitions under conditions of extreme fatigue.
http://health.yahoo.net/articles/fitness/inside-cult-crossfit?page=2
Just basically repeats what I said. I've heard McGill in person on several occasions and when it comes to back health and bio-mechanics the man is a genius.
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Discuss that mr coach... Fucking beast in rich froning jr
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I'm not sure what crossfit even is, looks like guys doing a bunch of Oly lifts with really light
weight and terrible form, with no breaks between sets, and a shitload of bodyweight exercises.
Looks like cardio with weights to me.
I'm sure these guys are in decent overall shape, but I don't really get the whole deal.
I personally just lift with weights and take short rest periods, sometimes not at all, just switch
to a different exercise. My form isn't terrible either. I do stairs and pull a weighted sled,
I think this is a better approach to being muscular with good cardiovascular shape and endurance.
I am not a bodybuilder, I am just a guy that wants to grow muscles, get stronger, and have
good health and endurance too.
Hard to have an opinion on something that can't really be defined.
One thing I have an opinion on is that any trend or fad is gay and I hate it. I hate text messages,
facebook, lowered cars with crooked wheels, reality TV, hipsters, and any other stupid thing
that the sheep are doing
and copying.
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CrossFit is just another strain or race of lying sacks of shit that endanger your physical well being.
It is a completely retarded fad that appeals to people with 0 knowledge of strength training and overall body conditioning but looks "cool".
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Discuss that mr coach... Fucking beast in rich froning jr
these guys are decently strong but their technique is horrid
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I haven't read all of this thread but i will.
I think they try to be too elitist and act like a cult but take a step back and look at bodybuilding for a second.
It's also a cult, you also have people who train like shit with powerlifting moves like squats, deads etc. Are you telling me that everyone at the gym that deadlifts know proper technique? Fuck no!! And i've seen people go to the hospital with slipped discs because of bad deadlifting and they don't crossfit.
Truth is, there are retards everywhere but crossfit appeals to the masses so you see more fails and bad posture than in other "sports".
Imagine what an experienced, seasoned crossfitter would think if he saw Branch Warren or Jason Genova train. :o
I happen to have a crossfit cetification course and i realy liked the message they tryed to pass. Wich was, you can't sacrifice form to get results, they tought proper lifting technique and were hardasses about it. It's not they're fault if some housewife decides she can do Squats Tabata style and the next day is in pain like it's not anyone's fault if some bodybuilder who squats once every full moon decides today he's gonna squat as much as his friend and loads the bar with 600lbs and fucks his back
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I was training in a gym in Birmingham city (away for the weekend) and had just finished my 'power' routine which is basically 20-10-6-3-1 reps (finishing with 1RM) on Sqaut, Deads, and Bench, so I was standing over by the bench dripping with sweat after training for about 95 minutes and drinking some water when some 'guy' who works there jogs over and says "Hey you wanna do the Dragon challenge?" I was like wtf is the dragon challenge? so he explains that it's where you get 2 12.5kg dumbells and have to raise em above your head by 'any means possible' for 200 or something reps...............I simply said what's the point? and he said fair enough mate, but 'come and have a go later if you're strong enough!" ::)
I had to stand there shaking my head slowly in disbelief. Next time I do a combined 1RM of 520kg (I have a shitty bench lol) I will make sure my invisibility suit is not on ::)
I wish I was 'strong enough' to do the 'dragon challenge' oh brother gayer than ribena light
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I was training in a gym in Birmingham city (away for the weekend) and had just finished my 'power' routine which is basically 20-10-6-3-1 reps (finishing with 1RM) on Sqaut, Deads, and Bench, so I was standing over by the bench dripping with sweat after training for about 95 minutes and drinking some water when some 'guy' who works there jogs over and says "Hey you wanna do the Dragon challenge?" I was like wtf is the dragon challenge? so he explains that it's where you get 2 12.5kg dumbells and have to raise em above your head by 'any means possible' for 200 or something reps...............I simply said what's the point? and he said fair enough mate, but 'come and have a go later if you're strong enough!" ::)
I had to stand there shaking my head slowly in disbelief. Next time I do a combined 1RM of 520kg (I have a shitty bench lol) I will make sure my invisibility suit is not on ::)
I wish I was 'strong enough' to do the 'dragon challenge' oh brother gayer than ribena light
That's what i'm saying. That guy is as much a jackass as someone who who walk to you and said "my cousin's friend girlfriend can bench more than you" and that quaote about "by any means possible" IS NOT what they teach!!
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That's what i'm saying. That guy is as much a jackass as someone who who walk to you and said "my cousin's friend girlfriend can bench more than you" and that quaote about "by any means possible" IS NOT what they teach!!
Lol, I see totally where you are coming from.
Problem with the whole 'crossfit' hype is not the textbook crossfit style/goal but because of its wide-ranging appeal you will by default attract more darwin prize winners than other disciplines i.e. MMA, BB, Powerlifting etc etc
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Lol, I see totally where you are coming from.
Problem with the whole 'crossfit' hype is not the textbook crossfit style/goal but because of its wide-ranging appeal you will by default attract more darwin prize winners than other disciplines i.e. MMA, BB, Powerlifting etc etc
Exactly!
Darwin Prize Winners = ahahahahahahahahahahahah ahah
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Why I Resigned my Affiliation with CrossFit
John Sheaffer- Greyskull Barbell Club:
http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.com/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html (http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.com/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html)
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O-lifts take along time to perfect. They should be done first in the workout because of the stress it puts on the CNS. The reps, really no matter what the weight and because it is a full body power exercise that loads the CNS almost immediately shouldn't be anymore than 3-5 reps. Anymore usually causes a breakdown in form which could lead to injuries. I'm not pandering here, but coincidentally I wrote this just a couple of days ago....
http://www.mpftrainingsystems.com/mpfblog.html
Proof read coach please. It's embarrassing to write something with such basic errors and claim to be a professional.
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Sorry for derailing your discussion, but have a look at these two instant classics here:
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that sums up my sentiments about crossfit^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Sorry for derailing your discussion, but have a look at these two instant classics here:
LMAO....some of the best yet.
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Proof read coach please. It's embarrassing to write something with such basic errors and claim to be a professional.
Don't worry about it.
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Sorry for derailing your discussion, but have a look at these two instant classics here:
And the franchise owners are laughing their way to the bank cashing their clients memberships.
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Some marketing/branding genius found a way to make a lot of money by creating a brand and cashing in on franchise fees.
But as these schemes tend to work and people are gullible, gyms and trainers have to ask themselves whether they should offer it or not - as a growing number of members ask for it....
That type of exercises and the intensity is suitable for athletes (sprinters, hurdlers, long jumpers etc have always trained that way), but could be dangerous for a person who has never done any sports or workout.
A novice to training who wants to get fit is much better served by starting with a circuit of good old favorites, like rope skipping, high knee running on the spot, push-ups, chins, lunges, bodyweight squats etc - but there is little money to be made there...
A good example are classes that some London based Olympic athletes are giving in schools and community centers:
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Why I Resigned my Affiliation with CrossFit
John Sheaffer- Greyskull Barbell Club:
http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.com/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html (http://greyskullarticles.blogspot.com/2009/10/recently-ive-received-lot-of-emails.html)
The same way i fell when i busting my ass off at the gym and a new girl comes in looking to loose the belly fat and the personal trainer makes her do Crunches! There are retarted coaches\trainers everywhere and in every sport! Like BigCyp said above, difference is crossfit appeal to a much larger number of people so a lot more of retards are going to pop out :p
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Sorry for derailing your discussion, but have a look at these two instant classics here:
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You can tell by this guy's hip drive that mark rippetoe joining crossfit shows results
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It makes me physically cringe to see so many of these clips. So many tears, sprains, strains, dislocations, missing teeth, death waiting to happen.
So many people wanting to challenge and better themselves being taken for a ride by these fools.
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You can tell by this guy's hip drive that mark rippetoe joining crossfit shows results
The guy behind him doesnt even say anything to him.. looks like layne norton squatting
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The guy behind him doesnt even say anything to him.. looks like layne norton squatting
hahahaha good old layne
he can't squat another way because he's very tall ::) ::) ::) ::)
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(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2xz3OE4r1r1n07ho1_500.jpg)
(http://crossfitoakland.com/sites/default/files/images/Crossfit%20014.preview.jpg)
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I lifts sings up and puts them down for 4 sets of 4 excersizes
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Anyone who critiques the workouts, I'm curious if they've ever tried any, like "Fran" or "Grace" or "Isabel", to name a few.
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never did the/or got the whole tire flipping cult...
crossfit=filt
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I think Crossfit needs 1 thing to make it perfect: free. Once it is free and just about people getting together to workout high volume calisthenics then great. Girls getn in shape is good too. The money thing is the bad part where jackoffs try and sell expensive monthly fee to dirty garage. Also not a fan of the silly shit that can break your shins n other dumb shit. My lil bro is a zombie for this assinisne crap and smashed his shin.
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the mind is an amazing thing: I mean to get mucle big you need to work it out, yet every yahoo seeks for a perfect way to stress the muscle when basic pushup or bench press fine. Why all this fucking crazy dangerous shit?
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the top crossfit athletes would make coach their fucking bitch. and tha's just the ladies :D
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Crossfitters are funny when they mention that someone has a 6 minute mile. Come on. That's 1:30 a lap. I once ran 2 laps with that pace and I have never been any fucking athlete.
fyi 4min mile is olympics level
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Another fitness gimmick to rake in the coin.
gh15,aka Blockhead/Special Ed should out these liars/scammers on his new site which will be debuting in March of this year. ;D
What is gh15 going to do say they are all drugs and then go on describing cycles since that's all he ever talks about. Besidea he is always busy and a very important man still has the victor martinez case he's working on ::)
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A six minute mile is fast for anyone except a track guy. Anyone who says they are yawning through a 6 minute mile is full of shit or a really good runner. Most treadmills at top speed either go a 5 minute mile or a 6 minute mile.
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6 minute mile is, in my opinion, basic conditioning for every single athlete. Every athlete should be able to do it, even golfers and such. Those athletes who are fit and need conditioning should aim for 5 minutes and under.
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6 minute mile is, in my opinion, basic conditioning for every single athlete. Every athlete should be able to do it, even golfers and such. Those athletes who are fit and need conditioning should aim for 5 minutes and under.
What utter bullshit! Even some of the best conditioned athletes can't run anything under a 5 minute mile. Like another poster said a 4 minute mile is out of this world. "Conditioning" is subjective. You think a well conditioned NFL player is the same as a well conditioned soccer player? Both are in GREAT shape. But put a soccer player under a squat rack or in full pads and he wouldn't last 5 minutes. Put a football player in soccer shorts and cleats and well you'd probably win first spot on America's funniest videos. Conditioning is relative to the sport you play. No way your average NBA player would come close to running a 5 minute mile.
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the top crossfit athletes would make coach their fucking bitch. and tha's just the ladies :D
That's easy, coach is just about 5 feet short. ::)
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6 minute mile is, in my opinion, basic conditioning for every single athlete. Every athlete should be able to do it, even golfers and such. Those athletes who are fit and need conditioning should aim for 5 minutes and under.
yep, i can just see john daly smashing the 5 minute mile with ease
(http://i.imgur.com/G2CSK.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/5p0cE.jpg)
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Of course there are exceptions. Let me put it this way:
Basic athletic conditioning standard: 6 minute mile.
Basic athletic strength standards: 185 bench/275 squat/315 deadlift.
Achieving these standards helps you in your athletic and physical endeavours. Depending on the sport, athletes may or may not achieve them. Some might even be succesfull without achieving them while most/all of their competition achieves them, like that fat golf player. Doesn't mean the standards don't mean anything.
Crossfitter achieving basic athletic capability isn't something worth noting in my opinion.