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Title: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: Benny B on April 08, 2009, 02:05:45 AM
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: gracie bjj on April 08, 2009, 04:03:08 AM
im curious to see if gsp,s cornerman is gonna rub george with that thia breathing message or whatever it is, you know gsp,s cornermen are gonna have all eyes on them in regards to what they do to george in between rds in the corner. it should be a very interesting fight imo, gsp is gonna be tough to beat though
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: coltrane on April 08, 2009, 06:22:28 AM
I thnk alves has a decent shot here..  much more aggressive than bj, and don't forget what Serra did..  gsp's chin may be suspect.

I'm actually gonna go out on a limb here and give the fight to Alves by knock out.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: WeightPSHR on April 08, 2009, 08:45:22 AM
im curious to see if gsp,s cornerman is gonna rub george with that thia breathing message or whatever it is, you know gsp,s cornermen are gonna have all eyes on them in regards to what they do to george in between rds in the corner. it should be a very interesting fight imo, gsp is gonna be tough to beat though

I have a feeling that they won't be applying grease doing the breathing technique for this fight. I am sure they have suddenly found it ineffective.
This is going to be a great fight.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: BigMenace on April 09, 2009, 04:46:33 PM
I have a feeling GSP is going to walk all over this kid.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: WeightPSHR on April 09, 2009, 04:52:13 PM
GSP is way too experienced and technical for Alves. Alves is good, but he is similar to the younger Matt Hughes. He is a huge WW and he is a great athlete, but not super technical. His only chance is to try and KO GSP with his boxing.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: chaos on April 09, 2009, 05:41:25 PM
After all the negative stuff BJ and his mom have been saying, I think GSP is going to come in looking to whip this guys ass.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on April 09, 2009, 08:17:08 PM
I can see this fight going either way. If it hits the ground I give the advantage to GSP, I think he is the better fighter on the ground. Now if it stays standing who wins this is the question.....

IF GSP is the aggresor I think he might end up in trouble, but I haven't seen enough of Thiago's counter striking to think that he can pull a chuck, but if GSP plays it cool and lets Thiago charge in I think he will make the kid make a mistake, but he has to be careful not to get caught.. Cause if that kid gets him, I don't think he will give GSP a second chance. He will be on him like stink on shit!
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: TechnoViking on April 09, 2009, 10:44:51 PM
GSP should just do a split in the corner after each round and let no one else in the ring...Just because he can
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: gracie bjj on April 10, 2009, 12:11:42 AM
gsp,s ground game by itself isnt really that great, its good but not great. ive seen renzo brown belts catch gsp in subs afew different times, renzo himself tooled gsp on the ground like a child and we all know renzo,s best days are behind him. gsp was taking privates with renzos early morning teacher john danaher,john tapped out gsp so many times i lost count at one point.

dont get me wrong, in a mma match gsp would prolly beat mostly anyone at renzos including renzo himself, and im loyal to renzo so for me to say that it shows im telling the truth. the thing that makes gsp so dangerous is his takedowns and well roundeness, and his cardio is great as well as his will to win and passion in that cage. in a straight grappling match, vaseline excluded ;)

 bj would beat gsp fairly easily, but mma is a whole different animal and well roundeness is the ticket. just my opinion and what i observed, gsp is the champ and should be respected as such till proven different, my hats off to him and since i wear hats all the time its easy to take my hat off for him anytime ;)
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 10, 2009, 12:38:13 PM
I thnk alves has a decent shot here..  much more aggressive than bj, and don't forget what Serra did..  gsp's chin may be suspect.

I'm actually gonna go out on a limb here and give the fight to Alves by knock out.

Serra didn't hit GSP in the chin ::)

I think Thiago has a great shot and this will be a tough match, but I think GSP will get the take down and eventually control the fight...
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: coltrane on April 10, 2009, 12:44:18 PM
Serra didn't hit GSP in the chin ::)

I think Thiago has a great shot and this will be a tough match, but I think GSP will get the take down and eventually control the fight...

So where did he hit him?   On the face..    maybe i should change it to "is GSP's face suspect"  Better?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: Geo on April 10, 2009, 12:47:31 PM
I see GSP wearing Alves down with leg kicks and knees in close...

don't see Alves really posing much of a threat on the ground...

I give Alves a punchers chance early (rounds 1-2) but that's about it !


definitely an interesting match up though !
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 10, 2009, 12:59:02 PM
So where did he hit him?   On the face..    maybe i should change it to "is GSP's face suspect"  Better?   ::) ::)



It was a one in a million punch straight to the temple, which would floor anyone.  GSP has shown he can get his eye poked, nose broken and get rocked several times and still come back and win (GSP/BJ 1). 
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: coltrane on April 10, 2009, 01:01:03 PM
It was a one in a million punch straight to the temple, which would floor anyone.  GSP has shown he can get his eye poked, nose broken and get rocked several times and still come back and win (GSP/BJ 1). 

Fine, maybe he's Temple suspect then..   happy? 

stop being overly analytical... jeez..
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 10, 2009, 02:40:17 PM
Fine, maybe he's Temple suspect then..   happy? 

stop being overly analytical... jeez..

I wasn't trying to be.  There are those with glass jaws.  Arlovski comes to mind.  One soft tap and he's out.  I wouldn't put GSP in that category.  That's all...
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: BigMenace on April 11, 2009, 10:13:40 AM
After all the negative stuff BJ and his mom have been saying, I think GSP is going to come in looking to whip this guys ass.


BJ & his Mom......LMAO.  That was the funniest and most bizzare point in all of grease gate.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: burn2live on April 11, 2009, 04:36:04 PM
I have a feeling GSP is going to walk all over this kid.

That's my first reaction
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: gracie bjj on April 11, 2009, 10:37:58 PM
That's my first reaction

mine also, i hope thiago does well but somethings telling me gsp is going to beat him down in brutal fashion. most of the time your initial thought about how a fight will play out is usually the right thought, to be honest, i really dont see anyone beating gsp in that weight class anytime soon. unless gsp gets caught up in the nightlife scene and starts partying all the time and loses focus, but i just dont picture gsp that type of guy. ive spoken to gsp afew times and he lives,breathes and sleeps mma and that belt is everything to him, and he wont let anything that would interfere with his training get into his life like alchohol,drugs ect
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: toe2toe on April 11, 2009, 11:21:37 PM
i agree gracie that gsp is too strict and on top of his game to get into any bs that would ruin his career.  he is going places and i have been wondering after looking at his build and brock lesnars if they test for steroids in UFC?  i want to say i heard they test u for narcotics but didn't know about the juice.  he isn't huge but he has certain characteristics that look like he uses something light.  just wondering tho
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: gracie bjj on April 12, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
i agree gracie that gsp is too strict and on top of his game to get into any bs that would ruin his career.  he is going places and i have been wondering after looking at his build and brock lesnars if they test for steroids in UFC?  i want to say i heard they test u for narcotics but didn't know about the juice.  he isn't huge but he has certain characteristics that look like he uses something light.  just wondering tho

i heard from some reliable sources that gsp did in fact use steroids, yes they do test for steroids toe2toe, but if im not mistaken i thought it was just for the title fights and main events but i could be wrong. i think the state athletic commision also throws in some random testing to the non title fight fighters just to keep them from not using the banned substanstances
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on April 12, 2009, 06:48:03 AM
I beleive that every title fight and main event is tested and then they usually throw randoms. Same deal as boxing....
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: WeightPSHR on April 12, 2009, 07:23:03 AM
I beleive that every title fight and main event is tested and then they usually throw randoms. Same deal as boxing....

This is correct. I read that hey are also going to start random tests throughout the year as well. This is what all sports need to do. Similar to Olympic athletes. Testing can happen anywhere at anytime. They just show up at your front door if they want.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: SinCitysmallGUY on April 12, 2009, 08:32:24 AM
This is correct. I read that hey are also going to start random tests throughout the year as well. This is what all sports need to do. Similar to Olympic athletes. Testing can happen anywhere at anytime. They just show up at your front door if they want.

I thinnk that would be a great idea. They show up to a seminar you are teaching and tell you to piss... out at a club promotion they can ask you to piss.. Dudes like Diaz would be fucked..


I just wonder how many guys that fight are taking prescirbed meds without a prescription. I can only imagine how beat up you feel training 4 hours a day every day.  I am sure vicadins, norco's and others would show up more and more frequently. I also wonder if they would ever consider doing blood tests instead of urine?
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: gracie bjj on April 13, 2009, 12:10:39 AM
imho i think that we are gonna see more and more fighters looking worse and worse the more they test for opiate based drugs, the reason being is alot of these guys are so busted up from thier brutal training sessions that alot are going to have no choice but to train less frequently and less intense. i know alot of you guys train mma and grappling and might still be young yet and havent felt the pain and tenderness in your joints and ligaments, trust me guys, its the worst feeling in the world when your trying to spar and grapple. everthing you do you feel the pain radiate through your body and ive tried wrapping everything up on my body, i looked like a mummy sometimes walking out of the locker room to train,lol. im not trying to justify the opiate use for pain but alot of these guys feed thier families through fighting. if you stood to make 100 grand or more for a fight you could buy alot of food at the market with that and pay afew bills, most fighters ive talked to are pretty open about the pain issue and how they deal with it. unfortunately most use everything from advil to vikes and percs, im not saying fighters should use the pain meds but im also not saying they shouldnt use them either. they are big boys and know the pro,s and cons
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 13, 2009, 07:48:26 AM
They should let them use whatever they want.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 13, 2009, 02:05:45 PM
Yeah, who cares if they drop dead in the ring. Good ratings for the sport.  ::)

Why would they drop dead ??? 
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: Geo on April 13, 2009, 03:18:18 PM
Why would they drop dead ??? 


didn't you know that people can die from vaseline ?
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 13, 2009, 04:34:46 PM
Oh, I don't know...an overdose or bad reaction to a substance they may feel gives them an edge, perhaps?  ::) idiot
People ingest Vaseline nowadays?  ???

you're so smart.  I wish I was like you.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: chaos on April 13, 2009, 05:48:57 PM
you're so smart.  I wish I was like you.
LOL, no you don't. ;D
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: toe2toe on April 14, 2009, 06:43:14 PM
the reason i asked about the juice is that night on spike tv they showed a couple st. pierre fights that were spaced out over a couple months and he bulked up a good bit for a fighter in between those fights.  granted he does have pretty good genetics but the difference in those fights and his physique was nothing short of amazing.  he gained good size while keeping lean.  just spiked my interest

toe2toe
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 15, 2009, 10:02:27 AM
the reason i asked about the juice is that night on spike tv they showed a couple st. pierre fights that were spaced out over a couple months and he bulked up a good bit for a fighter in between those fights.  granted he does have pretty good genetics but the difference in those fights and his physique was nothing short of amazing.  he gained good size while keeping lean.  just spiked my interest

toe2toe

Dude, he is obviously using some form of performance enhancing drugs...most are.  However, don't go by what they look like, as it is is not a good indicator of whether or not someone is on gear.  For example look at Tim Silvia, Royce Gracie & Chris Leben.  All three have been popped for steroids.  All three look like absolute shit.
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: Geo on April 15, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
  For example look at Tim Silvia, Royce Gracie & Chris Leben. 

it was pretty obvious that Leban was jacked,he looked nothing like he did in his previous fights and Rogan was commenting on it, but played the difference off on the fact that leban had quit drinking and was living the good clean life in Hawaii...


GSP (against Hughes & penn) DID looked jacked up too
Title: Re: Thiago on GSP Fight
Post by: MindSpin on April 15, 2009, 01:03:24 PM
I would be shocked if all title holders where 100% clean...including BJ.