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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2012, 02:15:16 PM »

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2012, 02:32:22 PM »

so you've never used ECA?
Nope , just hardcore dieting

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2012, 02:46:40 PM »
Nope , just hardcore dieting

and hard training

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2012, 02:56:17 PM »

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2012, 04:21:47 PM »
macro nutrients and you will have no problems.

I never lost an ounce of muscle while cutting.  I maintain a low bodyfat year around with great lifts. 

ECA stack is such garbage.  Don't waste time with fad diets or go keto.  Eat at a caloric deficit and calculate your macros.  You can eat whatever you want.

hope this helps

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2012, 05:44:06 PM »
The stupid is strong in this thread.

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2012, 05:46:30 PM »
After reading this thread I came to the conclusion that I'm the only real natural in this site , .

Clen ,ECA  ::)  GTFO
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You aren't.

This is me last Wednesday. Yeah I am a twink but I do pretty damned well for training natural since I started.

http://imgur.com/a/YCWQb#0

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2012, 06:04:15 PM »
You aren't.

This is me last Wednesday. Yeah I am a twink but I do pretty damned well for training natural since I started.

http://imgur.com/a/YCWQb#0

Yeah , but you look like shit ,I hope this helps.

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2012, 06:05:22 PM »
Yeah , but you look like shit ,I hope this helps.

Appreciate it bro.

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2012, 06:12:40 PM »
Yeah , but you look like shit ,I hope this helps.

are you still sitting @ a "semi-dry" sub-7 ma man?

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2012, 06:18:34 PM »
Appreciate it bro.
No problem.

are you still sitting @ a "semi-dry" sub-7 ma man?

Yes , semi  sub-7

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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2012, 11:35:58 AM »
IMO these are the mistakes most guys make when trying to diet without Hormonas :

* Too much cardio (no more than once a day, with one day complete rest a week) - use the diet rather.

Quite the opposite, it's always better to do more cardio than to eat too little

* Adding cardio and dropping calories at the same time - too big a deficit

agree

* Getting too fat in the off season ( as a natural you should see your top 4 abs at minimum in the off season, preferably all 6)

agree partially, people carry fat differently

* too much HIIT (No more than 2-3 a week) taxes legs too much drains CNS

steady state cardio's ok

* Too many days, too much time spent in the gym, too many sets and with high reps & light weight, chasing the pump. - 3-4 days max, 40 min, High intensity, low volume, heavy weight, compound moves mostly, no isolation moves.
Your recovery is compromised when dieting..it does not make any sense to add more than is needed. Only enough to signal to your body to hold on to it's muscle (maintain it) that is all u need.

disagree, need high sets, high reps for glycogen depletion, need heavy weight to send signal to body to hold on to muscle, of course the volume has to be tailored to the indvidual

* Not dieting long enough (16 weeks minimum) 25 weeks is better.

depends what you're starting from

* Using t3 (bad move)

agree, especially for ectos

* Not getting enough sleep (at least 8 hours)

agree

* Using a Keto diet less than 100g carbs a day (Not the best IMO)

disagree, low carbs, low fat, high protein for glycogen depletion and fat burning, high carbs, low fat, moderate protein for refeeds to reestablish a hormonal profile

* Too much protein, too low carb...carbs will spare more muscle than protein. As far as protein more than what you need is a mistake (3g per kg BW) better off using those Kcal from carbs.

not if you're using refeeds

* Not enough EFA

agree

* No re-feeds / diet breaks

agree

* Not staying hydrated -especially around workouts

agree

* Cutting out salt.

agree

* losing more than a pound a week

agree


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Re: Truth about natural dieting
« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2012, 01:18:59 PM »
No such thing as natty dieting ... you'll loose everything

not true