Getbig's Censorship of free speech

[MXPeacekeeper]

Ron!

Get Big could have been the bright shinning light of free speech that could have blown the lid off of the BBing industry and kept the industry foot soldiers and higher ups honest about how they run the industry!
 
Instead you have sanctioned the censorship of Get Big and the silencing of truth and free discussion.

You have deputized Bob Chick and allowed him to jail any one who dares disagree with him or call him to task on his mishandling of the Athletes Rep position that was given to him!

Good posters are jailed, solid threads and comments are deleted by those who find the truth and the light to be harmful to their plans.

Why do you stand back and condone this!

What has happened to you Ron!?

[spinnis]

CAnt figure out why bob chic is a mod in the first place?!

[gordiano]

DELETED!

[MXPeacekeeper]

CAnt figure out why bob chic is a mod in the first place?!

It makes no sense us and all of the IFBB Pro BBers.

In the context of keeping a lid on things here on Get Big, it makes perfect sense.

[polychronopolous]

There has been ALOT more deleting as of late.

It's pretty lame.

[GigantorX]

There has been ALOT more deleting as of late.

It's pretty lame.

Get Big USED to be on of the most reasonably moderated sites on the internet. It was a place that was laugh out loud funny but was also stocked with solid and informed posters. Discussions on all topics were great. Now, Ron and his cabal have cracked down on the very things that made Get Big one of the best places on the net for anything.

Now, the best posters must hide behind stupid gimmicks to let loose and be entertaining. Those that speak from their real handles hold back because they don't want to speak their minds and get tossed in Time Out.

Sad state of affairs.

[MAXX]

Ron has become a puppet of the "industry"

[GigantorX]

Ron has become a puppet of the "industry"

After Ron gave mod privileges to Chick and then sold out to Bodybuilding.com, this place has become a shadow of its former self. You cant argue with these facts.

[kiwiol]

After Ron gave mod privileges to Chick and then sold out to Bodybuilding.com, this place has become a shadow of its former self. You cant argue with these facts.

It's just as good as it's ever been, perhaps better. Guys who whine about censorship should maybe cut down on the haterade instead. You can still speak your mind freely and be heard. But if you come here to simply hate and be a dick / idiot who keeps bringing up the same nonsense and personal attacks while hiding behind a nameless account, you are put in your place. Sounds fair to me.

[polychronopolous]

It's just as good as it's ever been, perhaps better. Guys who whine about censorship should maybe cut down on the haterade instead. You can still speak your mind freely and be heard. But if you come here to simply hate and be a dick / idiot who keeps bringing up the same nonsense and personal attacks while hiding behind a nameless account, you are put in your place. Sounds fair to me.

No way, we were having a blast last night, then all of the sudden from out of nowhere Ron and Chick show up, threads, pictures and posts start getting deleted. Then 10 or 15 minutes later they are gone for the night. Nothing that was even remotely offensive.

[GigantorX]

It's just as good as it's ever been, perhaps better. Guys who whine about censorship should maybe cut down on the haterade instead. You can still speak your mind freely and be heard. But if you come here to simply hate and be a dick / idiot who keeps bringing up the same nonsense and personal attacks while hiding behind a nameless account, you are put in your place. Sounds fair to me.

Haterade is part of the bargin for those that post on here. It keeps the twinks out, although Ron has, for some reason, condoned a schmoe invasion, although thanks to the A-Team the invasion was crushed. No thanks to Ron.

I do agree with the nameless gimmick accounts which I do believe we need to out or cut down on. I do believe that the majority of the gimmicks are def. owned by a select few on Get Big.

[kiwiol]

No way, we were having a blast last night, then all of the sudden from out of nowhere Ron and Chick show up, threads, pictures and posts start getting deleted. Then 10 or 15 minutes later they are gone for the night. Nothing that was even remotely offensive.

That's not really censorship so much as it is moderating. For example, yesterday there was a thread about a nice looking chick with some f*cked up feet and Ron deleted it simply because it was on the G&O. Guys start random topics in this board because they get the most amount of views and response, and depending on whether a mod or someone like Ron is online, those threads will get moved or deleted. Let's face it - nearly every topic here has been discussed indepth, so I don't see the harm in deleting off topic threads that have nothing to do with bodybuilding (in the G&O, that is).

I guarantee  you this - start the same topic in the alphabet boards or the General board and they'll stay untouched.

[MXPeacekeeper]

No way.

If the thread is getting some good mileage out of it and is of high humor and/or quality, it should be left alone.

Countless threads about schmoes and obviuous gay trolling topics are left alone all the time on here. Jonny Faglcon can post utter shit all the time and nothing happens.

Your explanation would be acceptable if true and fair moderation occured consistantly, but it does not.

[polychronopolous]

I guarantee  you this - start the same topic in the alphabet boards or the General board and they'll stay untouched.

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I get what you're saying but it's the same old arguement "How long can you really talk about bodybuilders?"

What percent of people who come to this site are capable of talking about just bodybuilding for hours upon end? I don't even particularly like pro bodybuilding! Very rarely will you even catch me talking about it in depth.

I wish they would just let that stuff slide, it would make the site so much better, if I want to talk bodybuilding I can look for a Ronnie Coleman thread.

I think the site would be so much better if they just let the funny stuff slide, I know Ron and Chick don't have the wit like you and Quaker do, but don't just delete their posts because it's not bodybuilding related.

[Stark]

well, getbig is getting ready to be incorporated into bb.com - for that this board must be "cleaned up" certain people need to be "reeducated"

[MXPeacekeeper]

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I get what you're saying but it's the same old arguement "How long can you really talk about bodybuilders?"

What percent of people who come to this site are capable of talking about just bodybuilding for hours upon end? I don't even particularly like bodybuilding! Very rarely will you even catch me talking about it in depth.

I wish they would just let that stuff slide, it would make the site so much better, if I want to talk bodybuilding I can look for a Ronnie Coleman thread.

I think the site would be so much better if they just let the funny stuff slide, I know Ron and Chick don't have the wit like you and Quaker do, but don't just delete their posts because it's not bodybuilding related.

But a lot of shit threads and useless topics DO stay on the board and AREN'T moved. Why? Who knows. But these useless threads are filled with Johnny Faglcon ramblings and gimmicks arguing with gimmicks, usually with no quality to be found. Yet these threads are left untouched.

But solid threads with good posts are moved, buried, modified or deleted.

Bullshit.

[Mars]

[MXPeacekeeper]

well, getbig is getting ready to be incorporated into bb.com - for that this board must be "cleaned up" certain people need to be "reeducated"

Correct.

This place is being nuetered and cleansed. All free speech and uniqueness that let Get Big rise to the top has been squashed or at the very least in the process of being squashed.

Some on here are clueless and attempt to justify this. Just wait, in the coming year Time Out will look like a true gulag and the schmoes will be left to post shots of glutes and guys in womens underwear....oh wait, that's already happenning.

[polychronopolous]

But a lot of shit threads and useless topics DO stay on the board and AREN'T moved. Why? Who knows. But these useless threads are filled with Johnny Faglcon ramblings and gimmicks arguing with gimmicks, usually with no quality to be found. Yet these threads are left untouched.

But solid threads with good posts are moved, buried, modified or deleted.

Bullshit.

I never really thought about that, but you are pretty spot on with that statement.

Especially as of late, let us not get complacent here, things have taken a different tone as of the last few days.

Stark, you might be on to something there with the bodybuilding.com statement.

[kiwiol]

No way.

If the thread is getting some good mileage out of it and is of high humor and/or quality, it should be left alone.

Countless threads about schmoes and obviuous gay trolling topics are left alone all the time on here. Jonny Faglcon can post utter shit all the time and nothing happens.

Your explanation would be acceptable if true and fair moderation occured consistantly, but it does not.

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I said that it only happens when Ron or one of those mods are online. The G&O is not monitored and moderated 24/7, which makes people think that the deletions are random, when they are simply done whenever Ron comes online and changes things around. And Ron spends less time here than most of us do

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I get what you're saying but it's the same old arguement "How long can you really talk about bodybuilders?"

What percent of people who come to this site are capable of talking about just bodybuilding for hours upon end? I don't even particularly like pro bodybuilding! Very rarely will you even catch me talking about it in depth.

I wish they would just let that stuff slide, it would make the site so much better, if I want to talk bodybuilding I can look for a Ronnie Coleman thread.

I think the site would be so much better if they just let the funny stuff slide, I know Ron and Chick don't have the wit like you and Quaker do, but don't just delete their posts because it's not bodybuilding related.

This is a bodybuilding board and it is going to be oriented towards bodybuilding like it or not. And you must bear in mind that most of the off-topic, funny threads still get to stay. The number of threads that get deleted are less than 10%. All said and done, this is Ron's site and his to do what he wants with it. I agree that it's good to have those random threads, but that's the reason the other boards were created. But all this is just pointless argument about something we have no control over, I guess.

[polychronopolous]

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that I said that it only happens when Ron or one of those mods are online. The G&O is not monitored and moderated 24/7, which makes people think that the deletions are random, when they are simply done whenever Ron comes online and changes things around. And Ron spends less time here than most of us do

This is a bodybuilding board and it is going to be oriented towards bodybuilding like it or not. And you must bear in mind that most of the off-topic, funny threads still get to stay. The number of threads that get deleted are less than 10%. All said and done, this is Ron's site and his to do what he wants with it. I agree that it's good to have those random threads, but that's the reason the other boards were created. But all this is just pointless argument about something we have no control over, I guess.

It's n

In my opinon, as of late the really funny threads have been deleted. And the lame Bluto (Mike Mentzer) or Johnny Falcon (various diet theory) type threads are the ones that seem to stay.

If you got a really funny thread going, and everyone is laughing, having a great time chances are the thread is going to be deleted within an hour or two (unless it reaches legendary status like "Hottest Bodybuilder) and they try to move it but the public outcry is so great that they simply cannot, that seems to be the case at least.

God forbid we think about something else besides bodybuilding worship for an hour or two.

[GigantorX]

In my opinon, as of late the really funny threads have been deleted. And the lame Bluto (Mike Mentzer) or Johnny Falcon (various diet theory) type threads are the ones that seem to stay.

If you got a really funny thread going, and everyone is laughing, having a great time chances are the thread is going to be deleted within an hour or two (unless it reaches legendary status like "Hottest Bodybuilder) and they try to move it but the public outcry is so great that they simply cannot, that seems to be the case at least.

God forbid we think about something else besides bodybuilding worship for an hour or two.

good point, one that has been highlighted on here for a while, although it has been completely ignored.

Some on here seem to make excuses for Ron and Chick, but the fact is as you pointed out is that the good threads get killed and the schmoe threads and JOhnny Falcon rambling threads stay. Same thing with blutos pathetic pointless threads about fruit where he types a few words and then starts another thread.

What the fuck!?

[Ron]

Now, the best posters must hide behind stupid gimmicks to let loose and be entertaining

First of all, get it into your head that this is a bodybuilding board and the G&O is for topics bb related. Duh. That is why there are other boards are (30+) for other topics, and which they get moved too. Second, talk about Gimmicks. Do you really think that I am that stupid as to not know that MXPeacekeeper and GigantorX are not the same person. Dude - I know, so lay off the gimmick, and just use one to complain.

Haterade is part of the bargin for those that post on here. It's just as good as it's ever been, perhaps better. Guys who whine about censorship should maybe cut down on the haterade instead.

Actually, it shouldnt be and it is getting old. Yes, pointing out criticisms and debating and getting 'owned' is interesting, but pure haterade that some of you think is funny is not.  

Ron has become a puppet of the "industry"  Cant figure out why bob chic is a mod in the first place?!

A puppet. With string. Another stupid analogy.  You know, this was started because we liked bodybuilding and related topics, and wanted to know more about the niche of the sport. It isnt here for some of you to bash bodybuilders and bodybuilding in every post you do, and always complain about everything negative. Yes, I look it it, look at the last 30 posts that someone has done, see it is all negative, and boom - it is old.    

I am looking for ways to promote bodybuilding, the expos, because I LIKE GOING TO THESE SHOWS AND EXPOS, not juts complaining about everything. I like the NPC. the IFBB, with their faults and all.  You don't like it, don't go.  Shit, some of you are worse than a nagging grandmother who sees the glass have empty all the time, not half full.  

So get it into your head, it is a bodybuilding and anything related to it board. Not a haterade and bashing board to get your kicks off and ruin the expo and sport. I like coming here to see get stories, talk about what is going on, and having fun, not pure crap and hatered, and unrelated topics, which, when some are so stupid the get deleted, and others get moved to the right board.

No way, we were having a blast last night, then all of the sudden from out of nowhere Ron and Chick show up, threads, pictures and posts start getting deleted.  That's not really censorship so much as it is moderating. For example, yesterday there was a thread about a nice looking chick with some f*cked up feet and Ron deleted it simply because it was on the G&O. Guys start random topics in this board because they get the most amount of views and response

Correct, random topics will be moved eventually. Bodybuilding and other related stories in the news, industry, figure, fitness and more will stay.  Plain attacks on every thread that is unrelated, porn, stupid videos that are not related to the topics, gay slamming every time, will be deleted or moved.

You don't like the censorship, too bad.  You need to enjoy the boards, and contribute to them rather than complain.

[GigantorX]

Dammit Ron,

You're like the drunk Uncle that ruins Christmas.

Let Matt C out of Time Out.

[Relentless]

First of all, get it into your head that this is a bodybuilding board and the G&O is for topics bb related. Duh. That is why there are other boards are (30+) for other topics, and which they get moved too. Second, talk about Gimmicks. Do you really think that I am that stupid as to not know that MXPeacekeeper and GigantorX are not the same person. Dude - I know, so lay off the gimmick, and just use one to complain.
 

Actually, it shouldnt be and it is getting old. Yes, pointing out criticisms and debating and getting 'owned' is interesting, but pure haterade that some of you think is funny is not.  

A puppet. With string. Another stupid analogy.  You know, this was started because we liked bodybuilding and related topics, and wanted to know more about the niche of the sport. It isnt here for some of you to bash bodybuilders and bodybuilding in every post you do, and always complain about everything negative. Yes, I look it it, look at the last 30 posts that someone has done, see it is all negative, and boom - it is old.    

I am looking for ways to promote bodybuilding, the expos, because I LIKE GOING TO THESE SHOWS AND EXPOS, not juts complaining about everything. I like the NPC. the IFBB, with their faults and all.  You don't like it, don't go.  Shit, some of you are worse than a nagging grandmother who sees the glass have empty all the time, not half full.  

So get it into your head, it is a bodybuilding and anything related to it board. Not a haterade and bashing board to get your kicks off and ruin the expo and sport. I like coming here to see get stories, talk about what is going on, and having fun, not pure crap and hatered, and unrelated topics, which, when some are so stupid the get deleted, and others get moved to the right board.

Correct, random topics will be moved eventually. Bodybuilding and other related stories in the news, industry, figure, fitness and more will stay.  Plain attacks on every thread that is unrelated, porn, stupid videos that are not related to the topics, gay slamming every time, will be deleted or moved.

You don't like the censorship, too bad.  You need to enjoy the boards, and contribute to them rather than complain.

In spite of all, this is still the best bodybuilding message board on the net.  No forum is as entertaining or informative as getbig.