Author Topic: Democrats in Congress - "We may need a second stimulus bill" (Read 1198 times)

Soul Crusher · « **on:** July 07, 2009, 10:07:08 AM »

U.S. must be open to second economic stimulus: Hoyer

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said on Tuesday that leaders need to be open to the possibility of a second stimulus package to further boost the ailing economy.

It was too soon to tell whether the $787 billion package approved in February had been successful, Hoyer told reporters, but "I think we need to be open to whether we need additional action."

(Reporting by Susan Cornwell, Editing by Chizu Nomiyama)

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And people say Newt was bad???

WTF is wrong with these people???

240 is Back · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:10:52 AM »

how much will our checks be?

Option D · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:22:01 AM »

yeah im with steven a smith on this one..its getting kind of wild...yall should listen to his podcast..he went 20 min on obama...he said he voted for romney...he is worth 500 mil

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:23:02 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on July 07, 2009, 10:22:01 AM

yeah im with steven a smith on this one..its getting kind of wild...yall should listen to his podcast..he went 20 min on obama...he said he voted for romney...he is worth 500 mil

I voted for Romney in the primary too.

Option D · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:27:20 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 07, 2009, 10:23:02 AM

I voted for Romney in the primary too.

I voted for obama...I never trusted repubs. Mostly because of how they mix "their morals" in legislation...ie gay marriage and abortions

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:28:24 AM »

Quote from: big_mal on July 07, 2009, 10:27:20 AM

I voted for obama...I never trusted repubs. Mostly because of how they mix "their morals" in legislation...ie gay marriage and abortions

Obama's biggest problem is the congress. There is no balance whatsoever.

BM OUT · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2009, 10:34:42 AM »

Do you really think Dem senators are going to go for that?Guys like Evan Bayh or others in the midwest or south?No way they are going to destroy their careers for Obama.Already they are off board on cap and trade and many arent on board for health care.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:24:48 AM »

That is totally insane.
They need to force more money from the 1st stimulus into the economy before even thinking of a second.

Mal, I hear what your saying about some repubs but we can't vote for big spending, big gov, freedom limiting democrats!
If the republicans were smart, they'd nominate people primarily on economic and limited government platforms in 2012.
We have to get the far left libs out of congress, they are killing us.

Option D · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:50:25 AM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on July 07, 2009, 11:24:48 AM

That is totally insane.
They need to force more money from the 1st stimulus into the economy before even thinking of a second.

Mal, I hear what your saying about some repubs but we can't vote for big spending, big gov, freedom limiting democrats!
If the republicans were smart, they'd nominate people primarily on economic and limited government platforms in 2012.
We have to get the far left libs out of congress, they are killing us.

For our climate..i think we need those 80's republicans...the ones who were all money..all this "gay marriage" "abortion" republicans distracted from the real problems. Those Cigar smoking suit wearing republicans were awesome...But Obama is representing us very well overseas...but here...he needs to stop feeding the beast (i didnt sleep through econ..)

Dos Equis · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:51:15 AM »

Oh why the heck not. Just print more money.

I'm actually not even surprised by this. $:-\$

Hereford · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2009, 11:52:42 AM »

Quote from: shootfighter1 on July 07, 2009, 11:24:48 AM

That is totally insane.
They need to force more money from the 1st stimulus into the economy before even thinking of a second.

Mal, I hear what your saying about some repubs but we can't vote for big spending, big gov, freedom limiting democrats!
If the republicans were smart, they'd nominate people primarily on economic and limited government platforms in 2012.
We have to get the far left libs out of congress, they are killing us.

Hard to do when you have 'special-needs' states like Minnesota voting in people like Al Franken. They voted a guy in to the senate that makes his career from being a radical-left liberal. What do you think he's gonna do in there?

tonymctones · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2009, 01:58:51 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on July 07, 2009, 10:10:52 AM

how much will our checks be?

not nearly as much as what we get taxed...

tonymctones · « **Reply #12 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:01:32 PM »

Quote from: big_mal on July 07, 2009, 10:22:01 AM

yeah im with steven a smith on this one..its getting kind of wild...yall should listen to his podcast..he went 20 min on obama...he said he voted for romney...he is worth 500 mil

stephen a smith from espn? Man i cant watch that guy for more then 2 mins or so he is so damn cocky...

Bindare_Dundat · « **Reply #13 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:02:55 PM »

What we need is more Ron Paul!

Option D · « **Reply #14 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:09:18 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on July 07, 2009, 02:01:32 PM

stephen a smith from espn? Man i cant watch that guy for more then 2 mins or so he is so damn cocky...

watch his podcast on obama...it was awesome...

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #15 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:11:30 PM »

Quote from: big_mal on July 07, 2009, 02:09:18 PM

watch his podcast on obama...it was awesome...

Where is that?

Mal - I have a client who does chiro, but he does not take insurance, only cash payments. He nev er has problems with billing, etc since the patients pay for services as they use the service. He is doing very well because he does not take insurance and specializes.

shootfighter1 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:15:04 PM »

Mal, many of us are crying out for economically conservative social moderates (or libertarians). That part of the republican party needs to be front and center now! Thats the part of the party I like. The religious zealots need to take a backseat.

Option D · « **Reply #17 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:37:23 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 07, 2009, 02:11:30 PM

Where is that?

Mal - I have a client who does chiro, but he does not take insurance, only cash payments. He nev er has problems with billing, etc since the patients pay for services as they use the service. He is doing very well because he does not take insurance and specializes.

Its on podcast... And yeah. the FFS Fee for Service pts are best. I think maybe insurance and medical groups confuse things

Hugo Chavez · « **Reply #18 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:39:22 PM »

Quote from: Bindare_Dundat on July 07, 2009, 02:02:55 PM

What we need is more Ron Paul!

QFT

MM2K · « **Reply #19 on:** July 07, 2009, 02:42:37 PM »

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I voted for obama...I never trusted repubs. Mostly because of how they mix "their morals" in legislation...ie gay marriage and abortions

You and I need to have a little chat my friend. I think you and a lot of other independents are making this whole "morals" and "social issues" thing with the Republicans to be something more than it really is. Im a social moderate. I will admit I am more conservative on social issues than I was in the past, but Im still a moderate. And I am way more of a fiscal and foreign policy hawk. So I care way more about those than I do social issues. I could not stand Mike Huckabee and I was furious at his followers for not seeming to care about the fact that he was a know nothing populist when it came to fiscal matters and that he would have been trounced in the general election. But the Republican Party would not exist without social conservatives. Just accept it.

Also, the Republicans are more willing than Democrats to keep these social debates within the state legislatures where they belong. There is nothing radical about wanting Roe V. Wade overturned. It is the worst decision in Supreme Court history, and you dont need to be pro life to see that. Abortion would not be categorically illegal in the United States if it was overturned. There is nothing radical about not wanting to change the definiton of marriage. It is the changing of the definition of marriage that departs from the system of religous and secular societies for hundreds of thousands of years.

JOCKTHEGLIDE · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2009, 03:39:23 AM »

whats your guys problem again

its not your money ignore it and keep doing what you do all day it has not even effected you one bit that al these sitmluls packages have been given out,,,

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #21 on:** July 08, 2009, 03:59:11 AM »

Quote from: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 08, 2009, 03:39:23 AM

whats your guys problem again its not your money ignore it and keep doing what you do all day it has not even effected you one bit that al these sitmluls packages have been given out,,,

You are the biggest idiot on this forum other than possibly Benny if you really believe that. Either that or you are in college or hs.

tonymctones · « **Reply #22 on:** July 08, 2009, 05:46:06 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 08, 2009, 03:59:11 AM

You are the biggest idiot on this forum other than possibly Benny if you really believe that. Either that or you are in college or hs.

with a comment like that its gotta be high school...

JOCKTHEGLIDE · « **Reply #23 on:** July 09, 2009, 03:33:49 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on July 08, 2009, 03:59:11 AM

You are the biggest idiot on this forum other than possibly Benny if you really believe that. Either that or you are in college or hs.

wow with comments like that your I believe your in high sschool

I still cant believe you guys are truely effected by this one bit we live our daily lifes like no other,,dont you get up? go to work? do whatever the hell you want? get on getbig and complain? move on with your life? You act like you want a handout from the government a little bit of the stimulus package and yet when you dont get it,,,fella you complain about it,,has your life changed so drastically that you have to put blame on others in society? I mean what are you doing right now that you couldnt do when bush was in office,,or clinton for that matter if your even that old to remmeber clinton,,

MM2K · « **Reply #24 on:** July 09, 2009, 05:27:17 AM »

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whats your guys problem again its not your money ignore it and keep doing what you do all day it has not even effected you one bit that al these sitmluls packages have been given out,,,

Here is the problem. In order to pay for the stimulus, he is going to have to do one of 3 things.

1. He will have to raise taxes on either me or people whome my job and income depend on. My job and your job and our income depends on thier spending and investing. When thier taxes are raised, they cant do as much spending and investing.

2. He will have to borrow the money, which will cause the demand for loans to rise, which will cause interest rates around the economy to rise, which makes it harder for private businesses to borrow which therefore makes it harder to create jobs.

3. He will have to print the money, which will cause the money supply to go too high and will cause the value of your dollar to go down. Which basically means that your real wealth is stolen from you. Its like a hidden tax.

Im a bellman at a large hotel. Obama has directly affected me because he has made businesses and corporations feel guilty about holding conferences and parties at hotels around the country. So now theyre not doing it as much. My hotel is a major convention hotel. That means less income for me. What's truly sad is that somehow I get the feeling that some of our sales managers who are responsible for bringing in these businesses to our hotel probably voted for Obama.