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Lying about THIS? If it's true, I don't know how anyone can defend him anymore...
It appears Ben Carson’s understanding of his own biography is about as trustworthy as his understanding of the pyramids.
The Republican’s presidential campaign admitted that a central point in his inspirational life story was fabricated, reported Politico.
A campaign official said Carson had made up a story about meeting with Gen. William Westmoreland and being offered a scholarship to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.
Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, claimed in his book, “Gifted Hands,” that he was introduced to Westmoreland in 1969, when he was 17 years old.
He claimed that he shared a meal with Westmoreland, who had just ended his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam, and the general was so impressed with the boy that he offered him a “full scholarship” to the military academy.
However, West Point has no record of Carson applying or being admitted to the academy.
“In 1969, those who would have completed the entire process would have received their acceptance letters from the Army Adjutant General,” said Theresa Brinkerhoff, a West Point spokeswoman.
The spokeswoman said West Point would have records to prove whether Carson had pursued the application process.
Carson’s campaign admitted the story was bogus when confronted with the evidence.
“Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett told Polico. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ben-carsons-campaign-admits-he-made-up-scholarship-offer-to-west-point/
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FOX Business channel is hating all over him for it.
FR general consensus is "He's done".
Will he be single digit polling by Thanksgiving?
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The man is just fake as shit.
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The only thing that's over is 240's ability either read beyond the headline or his ability to tell the truth..
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598
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The only thing that's over is 240's ability either read beyond the headline or his ability to tell the truth..
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598
Joe, please post the text of that story so we can see what part shows that Carson didn't lie about his application and acceptances to West Point
Does Carson's book claim he was offered a "full scholarship" which is shown in quotes repeatedly in your link and I assume is pretty easy to verify in Carson's book
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I'm not sure what the story is but Westmoreland may well have said that he would help him get an appointment or he should apply and he'd help etc...something along those lines. The fact that West Point has no record means nothing. It may have never have gone any further then that conversation.....that Carson has over inflated or used to show he's pro military or whatever. Using Westmoreland based on that guys' record in Vietnam doesn't say much about Carson...not something I'd crow about if he's using that to inflate himself. The bigger issue is maybe Poltico aught to dig into Hil a bit more....plenty of meat there...oh wait....that might not be helpful to her.
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Well just read the daily caller story...seems Politico lied....Carson never admitted he lied and they (politico) misconstrued what he said or ment by meeting Westy....makes sense to me.
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Well just read the daily caller story...seems Politico lied....Carson never admitted he lied and they (politico) misconstrued what he said or ment by meeting Westy....makes sense to me.
so you think that Westmoreland had the authority to offer entry into West Point without the person even having to apply?
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Does West Point even offer scholarships?
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Joe, please post the text of that story so we can see what part shows that Carson didn't lie about his application and acceptances to West Point
Does Carson's book claim he was offered a "full scholarship" which is shown in quotes repeatedly in your link and I assume is pretty easy to verify in Carson's book
THIS
Repubs are silent for a WEEK while carson acts the fool on a daily basis.
They find 1 article playuing word games which makes Carson look less dishonest, and they're screaming it from the rooftops. Crickets all week tho, huh? ;)
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THIS
Repubs are silent for a WEEK while carson acts the fool on a daily basis.
They find 1 article playuing word games which makes Carson look less dishonest, and they're screaming it from the rooftops. Crickets all week tho, huh? ;)
Address the Daily Caller article.
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Address the Daily Caller article.
i asked you lst week how old the earth was. you refused to answer many times.
answer my Q, I'll answer yours :)
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Address the Daily Caller article.
from Carson's autobiography
In Carson's 1990 autobiography, 'Gifted Hands,' he wrote: "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point." He added that despite turning the offer down, "As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn't really tempted."
that is a complete fucking lie
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from Carson's autobiography
In Carson's 1990 autobiography, 'Gifted Hands,' he wrote: "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point." He added that despite turning the offer down, "As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn't really tempted."
that is a complete fucking lie
YES it is a lie. Dailycaller is playing word games here. Carson lied here.
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so you think that Westmoreland had the authority to offer entry into West Point without the person even having to apply?
Then...maybe he would have greased the wheels along with his application....now, no. It just doesn't work like that. You have to get nominated etc. There are other ways to get in and having a 4 star endorsement helps. Some commands at the 4 star level have slot authorization now that I think about it. I know the commander of 8th Army in Korea has 1-2 slots per year that allow a guy to go but they have to be qualified. There are, at lower levels ROTC scholarships that a General Officer can give out. This is not out of the realm of possibility now that I think about it. Now of which is the issue. If you look what Carson said..he never said he got it, just that Westy mentioned it.
Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett wrote in an email to POLITICO. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors,” Bennett added. “They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.”
The lede is outright false. Politico's Kyle D. Cheney starts with this claim: "Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point." But no where in the piece does Cheney tell the reader where Carson made this "application and acceptance" claim.
(3) It is, of course, very easy to show that Carson never applied to or was accepted to West Point, if in fact he never applied. Thus, the entire piece hinges on this missing piece of information: where and when did Carson say that he applied to and was accepted to Westpoint?
(4) There is a lot of evidence that Carson never made that claim. Particularly, because in both his book and his speeches, he talks about whittling his options down to Harvard and Yale, and in the end deciding to apply only to Yale, where he was accepted.
(5) Carson's book does have a single line: "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.” This isn't quite wrong either. Nobody gets scholarships per se to West Point; as a service academy, repayment is the term of service after graduation. But that's exactly Carson's point when he says he didn't take up the West Point opportunity because he didn't want the service commitment to delay his medical career.
In short, the Politico piece is deeply misleading because it misstates the lie that Carson supposedly told and mischaracterizes the campaign's response.
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Then...maybe he would have greased the wheels along with his application....now, no. It just doesn't work like that. You have to get nominated etc. There are other ways to get in and having a 4 star endorsement helps. Some commands at the 4 star level have slot authorization now that I think about it. I know the commander of 8th Army in Korea has 1-2 slots per year that allow a guy to go but they have to be qualified. There are, at lower levels ROTC scholarships that a General Officer can give out. This is not out of the realm of possibility now that I think about it. Now of which is the issue. If you look what Carson said..he never said he got it, just that Westy mentioned it.
Dr. Carson was the top ROTC student in the City of Detroit,” campaign manager Barry Bennett wrote in an email to POLITICO. “In that role he was invited to meet General Westmoreland. He believes it was at a banquet. He can’t remember with specificity their brief conversation but it centered around Dr. Carson’s performance as ROTC City Executive Officer. He was introduced to folks from West Point by his ROTC Supervisors,” Bennett added. “They told him they could help him get an appointment based on his grades and performance in ROTC. He considered it but in the end did not seek admission.”
The lede is outright false. Politico's Kyle D. Cheney starts with this claim: "Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point." But no where in the piece does Cheney tell the reader where Carson made this "application and acceptance" claim.
(3) It is, of course, very easy to show that Carson never applied to or was accepted to West Point, if in fact he never applied. Thus, the entire piece hinges on this missing piece of information: where and when did Carson say that he applied to and was accepted to Westpoint?
(4) There is a lot of evidence that Carson never made that claim. Particularly, because in both his book and his speeches, he talks about whittling his options down to Harvard and Yale, and in the end deciding to apply only to Yale, where he was accepted.
(5) Carson's book does have a single line: "Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point.” This isn't quite wrong either. Nobody gets scholarships per se to West Point; as a service academy, repayment is the term of service after graduation. But that's exactly Carson's point when he says he didn't take up the West Point opportunity because he didn't want the service commitment to delay his medical career.
In short, the Politico piece is deeply misleading because it misstates the lie that Carson supposedly told and mischaracterizes the campaign's response.
Face it, your black savior is a pathological liar who has weaseled his way into things his entire life. I also think that the color of his skin has basically allowed him to make it this far, lies intact, to every single position he has held. He is definitely of average to below average intelligence but does have a steady hand.
Either way, he is a failure and has no business being president of anything. Well, he could do well at the NAACP. That is what he is more suited towards.
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Carson lied. Some of his supporters will blindly post a link, but the facts are facts.
over on the republican message boards, they already abandoned him for the garbage of the past week. hilary would destroy his simple ass. He may be a good surgeon, but he's very stupid on many other topics.
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Carson lied. Some of his supporters will blindly post a link, but the facts are facts.
over on the republican message boards, they already abandoned him for the garbage of the past week. hilary would destroy his simple ass. He may be a good surgeon, but he's very stupid on many other topics.
Right now politico is getting its ass handed to them for fabricating lies..surprise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/06/ben-carsons-allies-defend-west-point-story-he-got-an-offer-did-not-apply/
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I never thought Carson had a chance (still don't) so his candidacy was never one I took seriously, but I heard this story today on radio and it certifies the fantasy of his candidacy.
It is one thing to tell your friends you were offered a full scholarship to West Point, and chose not to attend, but he wrote this down in a book when the fact is he never even applied to the institution. Would he have have attend on a scholarship had he been admitted? Yes. But didn't even apply! This loose association with the truth is inexcusable. :-X
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Face it, your black savior is a pathological liar who has weaseled his way into things his entire life. I also think that the color of his skin has basically allowed him to make it this far, lies intact, to every single position he has held. He is definitely of average to below average intelligence but does have a steady hand.
Either way, he is a failure and has no business being president of anything. Well, he could do well at the NAACP. That is what he is more suited towards.
Look douche..he aint my black savior. For a lib you really hate blacks....wouldn't be caught dead wearing a swastika and members of my family actually fought in the German army. I would never have voted for Carson in the primary...in the general sure...anything but that bitch Hil.
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I never thought Carson had a chance (still don't) so his candidacy was never one I took seriously, but I heard this story today on radio and it certifies the fantasy of his candidacy.
It is one thing to tell your friends you were offered a full scholarship to West Point, and chose not to attend, but he wrote this down in a book when the fact is he never even applied to the institution. Would he have have attend on a scholarship had he been admitted? Yes. But didn't even apply! This loose association with the truth is inexcusable. :-X
He said. it himself..did not want the commitment because he wanted to be a doc. System doesn't work that way. You guys believe Politico...but not the other side of the story...hmm...oh yeah I forgot..libs.
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Well you know what they say....
All conservatives are liars and racists. :D
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He claimed he had a scholarship.
He never applied.
Seems to be a lot of lies in Carsons book.
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Right now politico is getting its ass handed to them for fabricating lies..surprise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/11/06/ben-carsons-allies-defend-west-point-story-he-got-an-offer-did-not-apply/
Where is politico getting ass handed to them? You post vague opinion links.
Give us the exact line which debunks the claim he was offered a scholarship
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Where is politico getting ass handed to them? You post vague opinion links.
http://www.youngcons.com/politico-changes-headline-of-ben-carson-hit-piece-after-catching-backlash/
Plenty more headlines similar to this.
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Politico changes headline and lede on Ben Carson piece — removes line that his campaign admitted to "fabrication,Doesn't note that it made the changes.
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Again, you're posting a headline from "young cons" saying politico reworded their headline.
Are you saying Carson was completely honest about the scholarship? Yes or no?
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Again, you're posting a headline from "young cons" saying politico reworded their headline.
Are you saying Carson was completely honest about the scholarship? Yes or no?
Pick one...
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=politico%20changes%20carson%20headline
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You keep posting links. I want to see information, not be routed to click bait glamour headlines just like politico.
Did Carson claim he was offered a scholarship, and was he actually offered the scholarship!?
Looks like a case of politico misinterpreting the admission, but the face remaining that Carson was caught in another exaggeration. This happens all the time with him. Very similar to bill oreilly. Exaggerates in his writing but maintains that lie to grow his live reputation.
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You keep posting links. I want to see information, not be routed to click bait glamour headlines just like politico.
Did Carson claim he was offered a scholarship, and was he actually offered the scholarship!?
Looks like a case of politico misinterpreting the admission, but the face remaining that Carson was caught in another exaggeration. This happens all the time with him. Very similar to bill oreilly. Exaggerates in his writing but maintains that lie to grow his live reputation.
Actually it's politico taking it out of context to fit their narrative. It's almost as bad as a retraction.
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Are u watching Carson on the news?
He's botching about Obama records. He's asked media to sign affidavits. He's losing it. Trump is doing his job, discredit and destroy anyone that threatens Hilary.
"I never said that I received a full scholarship"
Did his book say it?
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Politico changes headline and lede on Ben Carson piece — removes line that his campaign admitted to "fabrication,Doesn't note that it made the changes.
Quit being a bitch because your hopes and dreams of rap god Carson as president are getting crushed.
Face it, the Republicans this time around are a complete mess and joke. Remember, this is THE best they have to offer. Pathetic actually.
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"Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point".
Word for word, Carson in his book.
Today: "I was never offered a scholarship to West Point"
Pretty clear there. Politico botched the campaign conforming it, but that doesn't matter. Carson now claiming he didn't. In his book, his own words, claimed he did. Period.
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New video. He's done.
Carson Recently Made The Scholarship Claim On PBS. During an October 9, 2015, appearance on PBS' Charlie Rose, Carson claimed "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point":
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New video. He's done.
Carson Recently Made The Scholarship Claim On PBS. During an October 9, 2015, appearance on PBS' Charlie Rose, Carson claimed "I was offered a full scholarship to West Point":
Republicans are so stupid, they will just blame someone else for his lies and then convince themselves it never happened.
Fucking morons.
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Sure thing guy......whatever this will just open the door more for cruz......have fun dealing with him Hil
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Repubs doing a dance because politico took the campaign statement wrong.
This gives them adequate cover to ignore his 2 completely contradictory statements. Politico goaded him into melting. And he did.
Who pulled the cable feed when he started asking media members to sign an avadavit? Lol
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Republicans are so stupid, they will just blame someone else for his lies and then convince themselves it never happened.
Fucking morons.
LOL...you're writing some good satire tonight.
*delusional
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Similar to Elizabeth Warren lying about her past.
I'm wondering if he always remembered it that way, that some drunk four star general tried to make him feel good by paying him some lip service and never had enough common sense to know the difference. Either way, no way the republicans win if he gets the nomination. Should be Trump.
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Coach,
Carson said tonight that he was never offered a scholarship.
In his book and several previous interviews, he said he was.
Forget politico, he sunk himself tonight with his own words. Your response?
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If Carson's true idea was to putz it as an author (instead of making serious run), looks like he needs a new plan.
Fuck these idiot "candidates" wasting our time when they aren't serious!!
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Coach,
Carson said tonight that he was never offered a scholarship.
In his book and several previous interviews, he said he was.
Forget politico, he sunk himself tonight with his own words. Your response?
Not even close. What he said was he could have chosen his words better. You, TA and every other liberal on here knows for a fact that the left would NEVER win on policy so this what they resort to every time, after all, it's the Alinski way.
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agreed he should chosen different words lol
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Not even close. What he said was he could have chosen his words better. You, TA and every other liberal on here knows for a fact that the left would NEVER win on policy so this what they resort to every time, after all, it's the Alinski way.
That could be said every time someone lies.
No, I don't know every detail of this story but will look at it. What I have seen, though, doesn't appear to be too good.
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I hate to admit it and I have agreed with him on most of it, but 240 is right. This guy is a liar and needs to be called out on it....
That being said, I also agree with Ben carson. Wby wasn't the left this concerned with obama's past. He is veiled in secrecy.
Ben carson needs to withdraw, but you can't have your cake and eat it too here. If you agree that Ben carson is supect, then you also have to question obama.....
....Unless you are andreisdaman and you are a pro-black racist.....
Or unless you are lurkernomore and have the iq of a terd pressed outta a bulldog's puckered up asshole
P.S.
I stI'll hate agreeing with a full-grown sissy man that let's another adult slap him in the face and his only reaction is a leg full of piss. This is the type guy that has a 100% guarantee to raise a male offspring as a pole smoker
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I hate to admit it and I have agreed with him on most of it, but 240 is right. This guy is a liar and needs to be called out on it....
That being said, I also agree with Ben carson. Wby wasn't the left this concerned with obama's past. He is veiled in secrecy.
Ben carson needs to withdraw, but you can't have your cake and eat it too here. If you agree that Ben carson is supect, then you also have to question obama.....
....Unless you are andreisdaman and you are a pro-black racist.....
Or unless you are lurkernomore and have the iq of a terd pressed outta a bulldog's puckered up asshole
P.S.
I stI'll hate agreeing with a full-grown sissy man that let's another adult slap him in the face and his only reaction is a leg full of piss. This is the type guy that has a 100% guarantee to raise a male offspring as a pole smoker
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What secrets? ??? ???
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What secrets? ??? ???
You try to pretend you are smart, but you can't be that stupid......I used to give you credit but you are really just an oppurtunistick troll. You aren't smart at all. You are actually dumb as a brick
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You try to pretend you are smart, but you can't be that stupid......I used to give you credit but you are really just an oppurtunistick troll. You aren't smart at all. You are actually dumb as a brick
That did not answer my question.
What Secrets? ???
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believe me, FOX/the right did PLENTY to unravel obama's past. And hilary was the ORIGINAL truther lol.
Besides, carson saying it's okay for me to lie, because you never looked into obama - AND THEN he tells us why obama should be investigated? EIther you both deserve privacy, or you both need to share you shit. He wants it BOTH ways lol.
Politico jumped the gun and misinterpreted their admission. THEN carson went on tv and inadvertedly ADMITTED he lied by saying the exact opposite of what he said in the past. In his book, and in 2009, he told charlie rose, the HE WAS OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP. Today, he told OReilly (ironically lol) that he was never offered one.
Regardless of whether "politico jumped the gun with their headline" - Carson proved himself a liar 4 hours later on national television.
Add in the other lies... he's a disaster. He's the frontrunner, and he's a disaster. And he's not cool at ALL. sweating, getting loud and angry. Clearly rattled.
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believe me, FOX/the right did PLENTY to unravel obama's past. And hilary was the ORIGINAL truther lol.
Besides, carson saying it's okay for me to lie, because you never looked into obama - AND THEN he tells us why obama should be investigated? EIther you both deserve privacy, or you both need to share you shit. He wants it BOTH ways lol.
Politico jumped the gun and misinterpreted their admission. THEN carson went on tv and inadvertedly ADMITTED he lied by saying the exact opposite of what he said in the past. In his book, and in 2009, he told charlie rose, the HE WAS OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP. Today, he told OReilly (ironically lol) that he was never offered one.
Regardless of whether "politico jumped the gun with their headline" - Carson proved himself a liar 4 hours later on national television.
Add in the other lies... he's a disaster. He's the frontrunner, and he's a disaster. And he's not cool at ALL. sweating, getting loud and angry. Clearly rattled.
"Poverbs"
"I really did try to beat my mother up side the head with an hammer." Ben Carson 2016
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You try to pretend you are smart, but you can't be that stupid......I used to give you credit but you are really just an oppurtunistick troll. You aren't smart at all. You are actually dumb as a brick
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What he said was he could have chosen his words better.
Of course he wishes he could have chosen his words better. As do you.
Coach, are you angry at Ben Carson for putting you in the awkward position of defending him... then discovering he wasn't being completely honest?
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Of course he wishes he could have chosen his words better. As do you.
Coach, are you angry at Ben Carson for putting you in the awkward position of defending him... then discovering he wasn't being completely honest?
HAHAHAHA. The only bigger idiot than Carson was in this election cycle were those who actually supported him in the first place.
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HAHAHAHA. The only bigger idiot than Carson was in this election cycle were those who actually supported him in the first place.
He's the closest thing we've had to an actual, literal snake oil salesman run for President. He then goes and sells his soul to Trump. He was scamming his elderly donors until the very end.
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HAHAHAHA. The only bigger idiot than Carson was in this election cycle were those who actually supported him in the first place.
But they SCREAMED about how any accusation against him, saying he lied about things, was just liberal media lies. Even when shown obvious lies and direct contradictions... they just denied it.
Then, Carson admits it, they close thread, and quietly slink away.
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He's the closest thing we've had to an actual, literal snake oil salesman run for President. He then goes and sells his soul to Trump. He was scamming his elderly donors until the very end.
No shit. Dude was so full of shit that he couldn't even open his mouth without lying. Then aligned himself with someone that compared him to a pedo. Great job!
But they SCREAMED about how any accusation against him, saying he lied about things, was just liberal media lies. Even when shown obvious lies and direct contradictions... they just denied it.
Then, Carson admits it, they close thread, and quietly slink away.
Poor Dos.... kept telling us how he was going to make an impact in this election and how such a great person / well qualified he was. Now he just keeps quiet and ignores anything Carson related.
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Poor Dos.... kept telling us how he was going to make an impact in this election and how such a great person / well qualified he was. Now he just keeps quiet and ignores anything Carson related.
Yep. it's always like this on getbig. Dude had been talking about Carson for literally 7-8 years on getbig, back to the 2008 election. He loved him. Kept telling us how brilliant Carson was. Maybe in the operating room, but when it came to things like politics, geography, science, etc... Carson was drugged up and clueless.
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Yep. it's always like this on getbig. Dude had been talking about Carson for literally 7-8 years on getbig, back to the 2008 election. He loved him. Kept telling us how brilliant Carson was. Maybe in the operating room, but when it came to things like politics, geography, science, etc... Carson was drugged up and clueless.
Let's not forget that he doesn't think the reason Carson didn't do so well with the voters has absolute nothing to do with the lies he got caught telling and other kooky shit that came out of his mouth.
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Let's not forget that he doesn't think the reason Carson didn't do so well with the voters has absolute nothing to do with the lies he got caught telling and other kooky shit that came out of his mouth.
Well to be fair, Hillary has gotten caught in lie after lie and she's still leading the dems race so...
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Well to be fair, Hillary has gotten caught in lie after lie and she's still leading the dems race so...
sorry, this logic doesn't work because we're not middle schoolers screaming at each other.
"The dems do it too" is a shit fail argument. It was crap in 2008 when everyone on getbig used it (we miss you, 333386) and since then, posters have retired this kind of crap arguments. "But so and so does it..." is officially retired from getbig. Defend carson, or call him a lying piece of shit, or just sit this one out. We're better than that here now.
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Well to be fair, Hillary has gotten caught in lie after lie and she's still leading the dems race so...
Same can be said for all the ones in the race. However, no one else told the dumbest lies ever heard on a political campaign trail than Carson did.
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Same can be said for all the ones in the race. However, no one else told the dumbest lies ever heard on a political campaign trail than Carson did.
Haha very true, I think the person who lies about national security is probably a little more of a liability than the one who lies about an offer for college
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Haha very true, I think the person who lies about national security is probably a little more of a liability than the one who lies about an offer for college
Not when the person lying about a job offer has shown he constantly makes up things on the spot and when evidence suggests otherwise, simply doubles down on it with even more bullshit excuses.
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Not when the person lying about a job offer has shown he constantly makes up things on the spot and when evidence suggests otherwise, simply doubles down on it with even more bullshit excuses.
Haha as opposed to the one who's stories constantly changes when it's found she lied?
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Haha as opposed to the one who's stories constantly changes when it's found she lied?
youre arguing about which turd smells worse. You're trying to prove hilary's as bad as Cruz was. Don't ya realize how far things have already slid if THAT is your defense? It's like the public flasher who's in court trying to convince the judge he's not as bad a child molesters, they're way worse. It's like Dude, you're a sick bastard, don't point to sicker bastards to prove you're somehow a lesser evil.
Carson lied a bunch, long-term and on the spot. He was medicated out of his head and babbled about some far-out theories which showed he had zero grasp of world history of politics. He was pandering to the religious base to sell books, and idiots bought into it.