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Title: 2012 Olympia - Kai Greene got robbed!
Post by: whitewidow on September 30, 2012, 03:22:39 AM
I was sure Kai had this years Olympia locked down! He beat Heath in every pose and was way thicker and wider! Kais back was insanely thick, and I don't think he really had to much oil in his biceps! Kai has somewhat similar biceps to Ronnie C. They have that nice round peak! I was sure kai won! what a huge blow to kai! I don't care what anyone else says but if Kai had won that would of been one of the best Olympia physiques ever!

Not only that, but in his stages of heavy dieting look at the amount of weight Kai was lifting a week ago. 500lb incline bench press for reps. Strong as a bull in that kind of stage! Not many competitors are that strong 5-6 days away from the show. Just unbelievable!

So the guy fucked a grapefruit! hell Human Grade HGH is not cheap! Phil has been a preppy boy all his life and Kai has struggled his whole life. They picked Phil because he is a better representative for the IFBB. Kai got robbed clear as day! But it has happened before! But Kai has really had a shitty life that is why I think he earned it! Not only was he the better man on-stage he has been through way more obstacles then Phil Heath. Phil Heath can't hang with Kai when it comes to lifting heavy weights. Nice charity victory Phil.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigjim on September 30, 2012, 03:26:42 AM
what's been so shitty about his life apart from citric acid burns on his pee pee
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on September 30, 2012, 03:27:54 AM
Everyone knows losing to a reigning Mr. O at the Olympia by 1 point means you actually where better. As the saying goes you have to knock out the champ, so if knocking out the champ means winning by 1 point then then winning but not a knock out means losing by 1 point.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: TRIX on September 30, 2012, 03:32:14 AM
Phil heath likes to stand in front of the white line. Make him appear bigger than he really is. Narrow bastard
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: LetItRock on September 30, 2012, 03:32:34 AM
Kai is gracious in his defeat. After the announcement, Phil got his knees on his floor kind of remind me of Kevin English "win" in O last year.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2012, 03:33:06 AM
Everyone knows losing to a reigning Mr. O at the Olympia by 1 point means you actually where better. As the saying goes you have to knock out the champ, so if knocking out the champ means winning by 1 point then then winning but not a knock out means losing by 1 point.
Wasn't Flex behind Ronnie by one point at one point during the 1998 Mr. O?
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: whitewidow on September 30, 2012, 03:36:14 AM
Kai should of won by way more then one point and he lost? WTF
Kai's physique was one of the best I have seen! and while dieting look how strong kai was! I was impressed with his last workout when he was incline benching 500 pounds for reps.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on September 30, 2012, 03:40:20 AM
Wasn't Flex behind Ronnie by one point at one point during the 1998 Mr. O?
No Flex was way ahead of Ronnie after pre-judging but in the Finals Ronnie got straight first from all the judges and ended up a 3 point different.

I am dying to see the score cause I am wondering if Kai was winning after pre-judging.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Parker on September 30, 2012, 03:41:24 AM
No Flex was way ahead of Ronnie after pre-judging but in the Finals Ronnie got straight first from all the judges and ended up a 3 point different.

I am dying to see the score cause I am wondering if Kai was winning after pre-judging.
Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: whitewidow on September 30, 2012, 03:42:27 AM
Tell me Kai at least won half a million! and Kai BLEW Phil Heath away! I don't even think it was close. But Ronnie got some charity victorys as well. I guess it is just IFBB politics. I am looking at improvements! Phil made NO improvements! NONE! Kai made Tons of Improvements and was the strongest man on-stage 5 days ago kai was Incline benching 500 pounds for reps! That is insanely hard to do while just 5 days out! He was heavily dieting and still was throwing up huge poundages with desmond miller.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigjim on September 30, 2012, 03:54:51 AM
Kai should of won by way more then one point and he lost? WTF
Kai's physique was one of the best I have seen! and while dieting look how strong kai was! I was impressed with his last workout when he was incline benching 500 pounds for reps.

 so what? doesn't matter if he's benching 500 or 50 lbs it bbing not a 1 week out strength test.  ::)
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: whitewidow on September 30, 2012, 04:12:11 AM
so what? doesn't matter if he's benching 500 or 50 lbs it bbing not a 1 week out strength test.  ::)

you just do not see it that much ! most bodybuilders at one week out are dpeleted and weak! none of them are usually incline benching 500lbs! that is insane! . most are lifting light due to how weak they are at that point.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on September 30, 2012, 04:14:01 AM
you just do not see it that much ! most bodybuilders at one week out are dpeleted and weak! none of them are usually incline benching 500lbs! that is insane! . most are lifting light due to how weak they are at that point.
Incredible strength and great lifts for Kai, but not legit 500 bro, probably 440-450, either way fucken strong beast.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: MikMaq on September 30, 2012, 04:26:17 AM
Quit whining, he came in second,  this is how things work. You win the year before you get crowned, and if you can come in the same conditioning the following year your crowned.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: PJim on September 30, 2012, 04:44:04 AM
Quit whining, he came in second,  this is how things work. You win the year before you get crowned, and if you can come in the same conditioning the following year your crowned.

TBF it's a bit like Haney and Dorian. That could have gone either way also. Kai FTW in 2013
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Archer77 on September 30, 2012, 04:48:27 AM
Lodge a complaint with the citrus growers of America.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: local hero on September 30, 2012, 04:56:29 AM
the best man won,,,, deal with it!, kai has a horrible shape, i cant see the robbery!!!!!
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Jaime on September 30, 2012, 05:27:31 AM
the best man won,,,, deal with it!, kai has a horrible shape, i cant see the robbery!!!!!

You know bodybuilding is not about shape. His shape isn't horrible, it's not beautiful either but then neither is Phil's.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: G_Thang on September 30, 2012, 05:32:55 AM
I was sure Kai had this years Olympia locked down! He beat Heath in every pose and was way thicker and wider! Kais back was insanely thick, and I don't think he really had to much oil in his biceps! Kai has somewhat similar biceps to Ronnie C. They have that nice round peak! I was sure kai won! what a huge blow to kai! I don't care what anyone else says but if Kai had won that would of been one of the best Olympia physiques ever!

Not only that, but in his stages of heavy dieting look at the amount of weight Kai was lifting a week ago. 500lb incline bench press for reps. Strong as a bull in that kind of stage! Not many competitors are that strong 5-6 days away from the show. Just unbelievable!

So the guy fucked a grapefruit! hell Human Grade HGH is not cheap! Phil has been a preppy boy all his life and Kai has struggled his whole life. They picked Phil because he is a better representative for the IFBB. Kai got robbed clear as day! But it has happened before! But Kai has really had a shitty life that is why I think he earned it! Not only was he the better man on-stage he has been through way more obstacles then Phil Heath. Phil Heath can't hang with Kai when it comes to lifting heavy weights. Nice charity victory Phil.

the judges gave kai TWO final comparisons, gave him a shot to win the thing, and he failed to compete with phil.  kai lost this show.  it wasn't on the judges.  i was very disappointed he didn't go at it with phil in the 1st comparison.  he looked like a smiling fool while phil was hitting poses hard.

Good show and win for Phil!   
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: HERACLES on September 30, 2012, 05:33:18 AM
Kai has insane muscularity. He will be regining  mr O soon, there is no denial.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigmc on September 30, 2012, 05:33:49 AM
heath is unbeatable at the min
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on September 30, 2012, 05:36:31 AM
the best man won,,,, deal with it!, kai has a horrible shape, i cant see the robbery!!!!!
Let's use some logic here bro, a reigning champ has to be knocked out, it's not enough to just be 5% better you have be 10% better at least, so Kai lost by one point, I think that makes him better by that 5%. Cmon now we all know reigning Mr. O's get favored, we all know Phil is IFBB golden boy, we all know many feel Kai should never win regardless of how his physique looks. So kai losing by one point actually means Phil didn't have the better physique, he simply won cause Kai never knocked him out
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Mattyh7688 on September 30, 2012, 05:38:24 AM
Everyone knows losing to a reigning Mr. O at the Olympia by 1 point means you actually where better. As the saying goes you have to knock out the champ, so if knocking out the champ means winning by 1 point then then winning but not a knock out means losing by 1 point.
Bob is an idiot, he shouldn't have said that.. right afterwards he mumbled in the 212 class between 4th and 5th. However, Kai was very very close.. had he showed up better tonight and not flatter, then who knows.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on September 30, 2012, 05:41:47 AM
Bob is an idiot, he shouldn't have said that.. right afterwards he mumbled in the 212 class between 4th and 5th. However, Kai was very very close.. had he showed up better tonight and not flatter, then who knows.
That part was sarcastic, they really were 1 point apart
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Mattyh7688 on September 30, 2012, 05:52:40 AM
That part was sarcastic, they really were 1 point apart
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=442511.0;attach=486071;image)

holy shit did anyone else notice Wolf was 5th?
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Papper on September 30, 2012, 06:29:51 AM
Quit whining, he came in second,  this is how things work. You win the year before you get crowned, and if you can come in the same conditioning the following year your crowned.

 ;D

"you have to knock out the champ two years in a row to beat him"
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: 240 is Back on September 30, 2012, 06:49:13 AM
Incredible bar has been set now.  Phil has to duplicate this condition every year now.

Quit whining, he came in second,  this is how things work. You win the year before you get crowned, and if you can come in the same conditioning the following year your crowned.

That is a REALLy good point.


Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: MB on September 30, 2012, 06:54:03 AM
That part was sarcastic, they really were 1 point apart

According to the scorecard Phil won with straight firsts.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: ukjeff on September 30, 2012, 06:55:21 AM
that just shows that judges either don't have their own opinion or that it was a clear win, it certainly wasnt a clear win.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: MikMaq on September 30, 2012, 07:05:15 AM
;D

"you have to knock out the champ two years in a row to beat him"
There's a full group of guys on stage, if it were boxing only the number one contender would of had a shot at the champ.

This is what kai has won, so quit saying he lost already.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: Radical Plato on September 30, 2012, 07:05:25 AM
If bodybuilding contests are to progress, the Mr Olympia needs to do away with the tradition of picking the same guy as the winner year after year, the judging is subjective anyway, and trends change year after year, would it matter that much if you picked a different winner each year?, mixed it up a little to make it interesting for the fan and give the other competitors a realistic chance of winning.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on October 01, 2012, 03:54:07 AM
According to the scorecard Phil won with straight firsts.
Ya wtf, Bobs trolling fucked us up bigtime, what an asshole, every forum was thinking the same thing, 1 point difference, but your right he did win with straight first, Bob should not have said that.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: PJim on October 01, 2012, 04:02:00 AM
Ya wtf, Bobs trolling fucked us up bigtime, what an asshole, every forum was thinking the same thing, 1 point difference, but your right he did win with straight first, Bob should not have said that.

Straight firsts? I really don't get it. So 90 percent of getbig are seeing things according to the "judges". It's not like the majority of us misunderstand judging either...and it can't be down to the usual argument that Kai has "a more pleasing physique" "more aesthetic" that you hear from some past arguments for other competitions. It's the judging that should favour him; Kai was bigger, harder, posed better, had better taper, better midsection for their relative muscular bulk and complied with the rules. Something isn't right at all.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigmikecox on October 01, 2012, 05:51:43 AM
According to the scorecard Phil won with straight firsts.

No he didnt! He got a 14, which means he got some second place votes. If you get straight firsts your score would be a 5.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: OTHstrong on October 01, 2012, 05:56:01 AM
No he didnt! He got a 14, which means he got some second place votes. If you get straight firsts your score would be a 5.
Actually the score card that showed him with 14 and Kai with 28 was fake, I know sounds fucked but some idiot made up an entire score card and posted it, it ended up being fake the real one that Manion posted had Phil with 10, Kai with 20 and Shawn with 31
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigmikecox on October 01, 2012, 06:02:18 AM
Actually the score card that showed him with 14 and Kai with 28 was fake, I know sounds fucked but some idiot made up an entire score card and posted it, it ended up being fake the real one that Manion posted had Phil with 10, Kai with 20 and Shawn with 31

Even with a 10 he got a few 2nd place scores.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: MB on October 01, 2012, 06:24:13 AM
Even with a 10 he got a few 2nd place scores.

How do you know Phil received 2nd place scores?  The high and low scores were thrown out, so no one knows those scores.  The 5 judges scores that were counted each had Phil in 1st, both Friday and Saturday. 
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: bigmikecox on October 01, 2012, 06:34:39 AM
How do you know Phil received 2nd place scores?  The high and low scores were thrown out, so no one knows those scores.  The 5 judges scores that were counted each had Phil in 1st, both Friday and Saturday. 

If he got a perfect score he would have scored a 5.
Title: Re: Kai got robbed!
Post by: MB on October 01, 2012, 06:41:14 AM
If he got a perfect score he would have scored a 5.

There are 2 rounds (Friday & Saturday).  He scored a 5 in each round for a total of 10 pts. 
Title: Re: 2012 Olympia - Kai Greene got robbed!
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on October 01, 2012, 06:48:13 AM
Phil has a mor pleasing physique which helps, but he is taller and looked bigger.  The inner lats and traps are way bigger, on the MM, Kai's arms looked small while Phil ballooned up.  It was close but Phil gets the edge.