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Title: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
Ok, I'm watching some show about Mitt Romney last night and they're talking to his babysitter they employed way back.  Mitt was also her bishop. When she got pregnant, I guess Mitt tried to talk her into giving up the child for adoption several times.  I thought, ok, that's a lame thing to do but nothing that would hurt him in this election.   She says she decided to keep the baby and was happy that she did.   They then showed a more recent picture of the kid probably around 18 years old I'm guessing and that's when I said, Oh no....  He looks...uh.... hmmmm.....

The first pic below is the kid Mitt tried to get his babysitter to put up for adoption.  The second pic is of Mitt at around the same age.  hmm :-\
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Here's the portion of the video, from 1:00 to 3:33

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Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2012, 03:36:52 PM
love child.... october surprise...
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Post by: OzmO on October 16, 2012, 03:38:29 PM
Wow lol.

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Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2012, 03:39:45 PM
not a big deal, but entertaining nonetheless, I suppose.   The dems aren't dummies, they probably have a million pics of the guy and there's no mistaking Mitt's rugged handsome facial traits. 
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 03:43:27 PM
Wow lol.


LOL, I'm not even sure you need a DNA test for this.  I don't think one could look anymore like Mitt without being Mitt lol...
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2012, 03:49:24 PM
it was before he was married, right?  So no biggie things like that happen.

it's not like tha Arnold thing, that could be a huge deal.   This is just 2 young kids?
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 03:53:13 PM
not a big deal, but entertaining nonetheless, I suppose.   The dems aren't dummies, they probably have a million pics of the guy and there's no mistaking Mitt's rugged handsome facial traits. 
uh, dems are dummies lol... oh you were probably joking ;D

Anyway, with the strong resemblance and every other part of the story confirmed as true with the exception that Mitt denied threatening excommunication from the church, I'm kinda shocked this hasn't even turned up in shitrags like National Inquirer.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 03:54:16 PM
it was before he was married, right?  So no biggie things like that happen.

it's not like tha Arnold thing, that could be a huge deal.   This is just 2 young kids?
How did you get it was before he was married if this is with the babysitter he hired to watch his sons? ::)
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Post by: Roger Bacon on October 16, 2012, 04:02:53 PM
haha..... wow  :o
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 05:18:53 PM
Doing some more searching, there's almost nothing on the net about this.  Just a few small mentions but really nothing.


If some kid popped up looking like Obama and the mother was a babysitter for Obama's kids and Obama tried to get the mother to put the kid up for adoption, you know how that would play out.  There would be a 30 page thread here on it and every rightwing site would have something on it.
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 16, 2012, 05:22:02 PM
video probably a hoax to pwn conspiracy theorists.  if it was a real story, the dems would be all over it. the first pic is probably a pic of mitt himself. 

I call fake.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
video probably a hoax to pwn conspiracy theorists.  if it was a real story, the dems would be all over it. the first pic is probably a pic of mitt himself.  

I call fake.
It's real.  The story first came up during his race against Kennedy in the 90's.  The only thing Mitt denied was the part about threatening excommunication.



Boston Globe
Friday, August 26, 1994

SINGLE MOTHER TELLS OF THE ADVICE ROMNEY GAVE AS MORMON COUNSELOR

A single mother from Watertown claims Mitt Romney warned her a decade ago that she faced excommunication from the Mormon Church if she failed to follow his advice to give her newborn baby up for adoption through a church agency.

Romney, a Republican candidate for US Senate who has portrayed himself as a social moderate, acknowledges he urged the mother to give her baby up for adoption but strongly denies threatening to throw her out of the church if she did not follow his advice. He notes the woman did not heed his advice and was not excommunicated.

Yet Peggie Hayes, 34, said Romney, then a lay counselor for the local church, came to her home in 1984 shortly after she gave birth to her son, Dane. At the time, Hayes was divorced and had a 4-year-old daughter.

"He told me it was really important to give the baby up," Hayes said. ''He told me he was a representative of the church and by refusing I was failing to comply with the church's wishes and I could be excommunicated."

Hayes said that, though she was shaken by the incident, she rejected Romney's advice and eventually dropped out of the church.

Romney, who considers his counseling advice to Hayes confidential, received permission from Hayes yesterday to release a "limited statement" on the matter.

In the statement, Romney said he urged the adoption route because Hayes' child was born out of wedlock. "This was Peggy's second child," he said. ''At the time, Peggy was not working, had no visible means of support and was living on welfare. She was also a member of a family that had had severe problems in many different ways which, to protect Peggy's privacy, I will not go into in this statement."

Romney also said Hayes' allegations about possible sanctions is "simply not true." He noted that, after their counseling sessions, she continued to have a relationship with his family and the Mormon Church provided her with welfare funds.

Hayes' made her comments as Romney, seeking the GOP nomination to oppose US Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, is trying to position himself as a Republican with a socially moderate image, much in the style of Gov. Weld.

While some of his actions as a church leader appear to contradict the image he is projecting as a candidate, Romney says he was only carrying out the policies set by church elders. He has repeatedly said that, if elected, his church views would not affect public issues.

Hayes, a Democrat who volunteers part-time for a Democratic state Senate candidate, said she thinks Romney's conversation with her 10 years ago illustrates his basic philosophy. She said she is not a Kennedy supporter but reluctantly will vote for him, because she feels Romney does not have the necessary qualities to be a good senator.

"I was personally offended when he did it to me, but now we are talking about him having a whole constituency of people he is going to affect with that narrow-minded kind of thinking," Hayes said. "I still think he is an OK guy, and that if somebody was really in trouble he would help them -- but that doesn't necessarily make a good legislator."

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a specific policy of encouraging adoptions for children born to single mothers.

According to the church's public affairs office in Salt Lake City, Mormon policy is that unwed parents who are unable or unwilling to marry "should be encouraged to place the child for adoption, preferably through LDS social services," the official church social services agency.

"Placing the infant for adoption through LDS Social Services helps ensure that the baby will be reared in a faithful Latter-day Saint family," a church statement said.

But the church said that policy is altered once a child is born and a woman appears to have bonded with the baby. A counselor is then instructed to outline a series of options, including adoption.

Hayes said Romney came on very strong in telling her she should place her one-month-old child up for adoption.

"He was saying that because Dane didn't have a Mormon father in the home and because of the circumstances of his birth -- being born to a single mother -- then the expectation of the church was that I give him up for adoption to the church agency so he could be raised by a Mormon couple in good standing," Hayes said.

Hayes said she had known Romney for a number of years because of his leadership in the local Mormon Church. She said she had baby-sat for his children and done odd jobs around his house. When she was a teen-ager, she said Romney, then a young church leader, had offered her advice on dating.

Rebutting the charge that he had threatened excommunication, Romney's campaign released a statement from two local Mormon leaders, Gordon

Williams and H. Kent Bowen, who said they had worked with Romney for years and that ''he has never advocated any such sanction" against single mothers

Hayes' account is backed up by a longtime friend, Eric Hunter, and her aunt, Ann O'Rourke, both of whom told the Globe they recall her relating details of the incident shortly after it happened.

Hayes said her son Dane is now a happy, gregarious 10-year-old. She is halfway through a master's degree at Emerson College.

"I made absolutely the best decision for that kid," Hayes said. "He is a wonderful kid, and he loves being with me. If there is a God, I think the last thing he would have wanted is for me to give my son away just on somebody else's decision."

cont... http://mittromneycounsel.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
and that's pretty odd.... When she was a teenager, Romney offered her advice on dating? whaa?
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 05:43:46 PM
Old news.  I heard about this a year ago. 
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 05:48:57 PM
Old news.  I heard about this a year ago.  
Part of it is old news as in all the parts posted above from the 1994 article and documentary from this summer...  The part about her kid looking a hell of a lot like Mitt is not old news and does open a WTF angle here .  I've only found a few mentions of it on the net.  That's what this thread is about.  And none of this was talked about here anyway.
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Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 16, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
Ok, I'm watching some show about Mitt Romney last night and they're talking to his babysitter they employed way back.  Mitt was also her bishop. When she got pregnant, I guess Mitt tried to talk her into giving up the child for adoption several times.  I thought, ok, that's a lame thing to do but nothing that would hurt him in this election.   She says she decided to keep the baby and was happy that she did.   They then showed a more recent picture of the kid probably around 18 years old I'm guessing and that's when I said, Oh no....  He looks...uh.... hmmmm.....

The first pic below is the kid Mitt tried to get his babysitter to put up for adoption.  The second pic is of Mitt at around the same age.  hmm :-\


Wow...I thought the first picture was Romney at first....look at the fucking eyebrows!!!
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 07:56:30 PM

Wow...I thought the first picture was Romney at first....look at the fucking eyebrows!!!
actually, look at the eyebrows, the eyes, the nose, the chin, the overall facial structure, the only thing I see that's a bit different is the ears.  Even the hair is Mitt Romney :o
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 08:00:54 PM
actually, look at the eyebrows, the eyes, the nose, the chin, the overall facial structure, the only thing I see that's a bit different is the ears.  Even the hair is Mitt Romney :o

So romney has a love child and Obama's real dad is Frank Davis.    wash 
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 08:25:32 PM
So romney has a love child and Obama's real dad is Frank Davis.I have literally a zillion hairbrained conspiracy theories on Obama.  wash  
fixed
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 08:26:37 PM
fixed

LOL - in the end you will come around for o-94er 
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 08:28:21 PM
LOL - in the end you will come around for o-94er 
huh?
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 09:17:39 PM
3333, be honest...  On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does that kid look like Mitt Romney?  My guess is that even you looked at that picture and said, oh shit, that's Mitt Jr...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
If it's a love child why isn't she claiming paternity? 
Title: Re: Anybody else thinking "Uh, wait, WTF" on this? Did Mitt? Oh no....
Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 09:36:23 PM
If it's a love child why isn't she claiming paternity?  
She didn't back then and she hasn't now.  There could be other reasons for that.  In the interviews she sounds like she admired Mitt a lot and was just upset with how he handled it.  Even after being asked to put the kid up for adoption she still wanted Mitt to come and bless the child when he was sick?  That's a good indication of how she feels about Mitt.  After he wanted her to give up her kid, she still wanted him to come give them a blessing?  She may not want Mitt destroyed.  She sounds pretty honest and sincere in the interview.  

With that said, just answer the question:

be honest...  On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does that kid look like Mitt Romney?  My guess is that even you looked at that picture and said, oh shit, that's Mitt Jr...


He's got that signature Romney look... You see it with his other kids too and it's not a look you just randomly can pick out in a crowd.  That's not an average face.  He's got the eyes, eyebrows, facial structure, chin, got it all, he would fit right in with his other brothers imo...  I'm not saying he is for sure, just that it looks a lot like it and that makes this one hell of an amazing coincidence if he's not Romney's son.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on October 16, 2012, 09:38:41 PM

The eyebrows are pretty close.


She didn't back then and she hasn't now.  There could be other reasons for that.  In the interviews she sounds like she admired Mitt a lot and was just upset with how he handled it.  Even after being asked to put the kid up for adoption she still wanted Mitt to come and bless the child when he was sick?  That's a good indication of how she feels about Mitt.  After he wanted her to give up her kid, she still wanted him to come give them a blessing?  She may not want Mitt destroyed.  She sounds pretty honest and sincere in the interview. 

With that said, just answer the question:

be honest...  On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does that kid look like Mitt Romney?  My guess is that even you looked at that picture and said, oh shit, that's Mitt Jr...
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 09:59:57 PM
The eyebrows are pretty close.


ha, bullshit... I could take that pic out tomorrow and ask people to guess who this is a young picture of and I bet people would say Mitt Romney lol...  It's more than the eyebrows for sure.
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Post by: tu_holmes on October 16, 2012, 10:01:41 PM
ha, bullshit... I could take that pic out tomorrow and ask people to guess who this is a young picture of and I bet people would say Mitt Romney lol...  It's more than the eyebrows for sure.

Now you're just being silly... This is America... Most people don't know people they see in history books for years... Do you really think people will know a young looking Romney?

Doubtful.
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Post by: Hugo Chavez on October 16, 2012, 10:06:50 PM
Now you're just being silly... This is America... Most people don't know people they see in history books for years... Do you really think people will know a young looking Romney?

Doubtful.
I'm not actually going to question people on the streets lol... I wasn't serious, but it was a fair reply to a reply that only sees the eyebrows as close between the two...
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Post by: 240 is Back on October 23, 2012, 05:01:29 PM
Ok, I'm watching some show about Mitt Romney last night and they're talking to his babysitter they employed way back.  Mitt was also her bishop. When she got pregnant, I guess Mitt tried to talk her into giving up the child for adoption several times.  I thought, ok, that's a lame thing to do but nothing that would hurt him in this election.   She says she decided to keep the baby and was happy that she did.   They then showed a more recent picture of the kid probably around 18 years old I'm guessing and that's when I said, Oh no....  He looks...uh.... hmmmm.....

The first pic below is the kid Mitt tried to get his babysitter to put up for adoption.  The second pic is of Mitt at around the same age.  hmm :-\

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=444361.0;attach=488446;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=444361.0;attach=488447;image)

Which state was this in, Hugo Sanchez?