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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1175 on: October 30, 2007, 08:11:19 AM »
"Made in Montana" is completely correct. Proof of the pudding..... No bodybuilder on here can argue against Serge's methods as he and the guys he has trained all show the amazing results. I "adapted" Serge's routine - He told me not to and nearly a month on Im 3 pounds heavier, a lot leaner WITHOUT any aerobics and I need to drop down to 32" waist trousers but I can't find any I can get my (now larger) legs into!!!! Im sticking with Serge's routine and advise everyone to at least give it a go before questioning negatively....

i was primarily discussing serges almost moronic ab workout recommendations.

as for serges workout routine:...many many routines work..if they focus on progressively increasing weights/reps/sets etc....

does serges training routine work? im sure it can...(as its not as faulty as his ab recommendations)

many roads lead to rome..some are better than others.

that being said i think most people will benefit more from a routine with lower volume than serge recommends and using heavier weights. (no im not talking about doing endless workouts with only 2-3 reps nor am i talking about doing HIT workouts)

in the end training has to be fun..if its not fun..not even the most "optimal" training routine will give you good results in the long run.

good luck with your training.




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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1176 on: October 30, 2007, 07:30:13 PM »
Serge-I see that your trunks were different color(blue) in that pic in 75 Olympia
I assume that was prejudging?
Do you feel that your condition 2 weeks prior to 75 O was even better than your previous best in 1972 Essen Olympia?

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Re: Lionel Oct. 27, 2007
« Reply #1177 on: October 31, 2007, 02:51:07 AM »
Go Away, no one needs your permission to post a picture of Serge on his thread; nor do they need your approval to make a comment that his abs look good in it (whether standing alone or next to someone). You repeat yourself whining because you can't find a picture to back your opinion and get irritated that no one else does it for you. That's ridiculous.

Solution: Go on Lou's thread and talk about his training with him there, ask him to email you pictures that illustrate your point, and then rag on anyone who posts a picture of him or anyone else without asking you if it's o.k. first. Serge reads your posts on his thread meant for him and all he sees is someone repeating himself whining and ripping down people for putting up pictures of him on his thread. Thanks for your appreciation for his time. That he would come here to help and this is the best that you can come up with...amazing. Hope this helps.


are u for real? did u even read a word of my post? come on 'made in montana', u may be a relative of steve reeves, u may be a personal friend of mr. nubret, but the blatant lies ur making up (to make me look bad, which is failing), and the blatant bias towards serge is very much like a typical idiot fan. if u r a real fan of physique competition, and not just a schmoe to serge, u would of realised my ONLY point by now and admitted u were wrong. but it is clear that u wont, so i wont bother with u anymore. uve shown u r bias towards mr. nubret, and that is enough for me not to give a shit what u have to say, because anyone who is bias will not see things the way they truly are in the light of day.

hope this helps... because u need it. :)

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1178 on: October 31, 2007, 03:02:20 AM »
i was primarily discussing serges almost moronic ab workout recommendations.

as for serges workout routine:...many many routines work..if they focus on progressively increasing weights/reps/sets etc....

does serges training routine work? im sure it can...(as its not as faulty as his ab recommendations)

many roads lead to rome..some are better than others.

that being said i think most people will benefit more from a routine with lower volume than serge recommends and using heavier weights. (no im not talking about doing endless workouts with only 2-3 reps nor am i talking about doing HIT workouts)

in the end training has to be fun..if its not fun..not even the most "optimal" training routine will give you good results in the long run.

good luck with your training.




Hi. You hit the nail on the head with training has to be fun and Im enjoying the fact that Im training more regularly and with less weight through this style. Agreed, each to their own and I'll continue as discussed.

EVERYBODY - Lets keep this thread positive.

Serge - Please could you posts a "Typical" days/weeks eating as I know you are still 10kg away from top shape. Many thanks.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1179 on: October 31, 2007, 03:03:17 AM »
Lionel looks incredible by the way!  :o

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Re: Lionel Oct. 27, 2007
« Reply #1180 on: October 31, 2007, 05:07:24 AM »
are u for real? did u even read a word of my post? come on 'made in montana', u may be a relative of steve reeves, u may be a personal friend of mr. nubret, but the blatant lies ur making up (to make me look bad, which is failing), and the blatant bias towards serge is very much like a typical idiot fan. if u r a real fan of physique competition, and not just a schmoe to serge, u would of realised my ONLY point by now and admitted u were wrong. but it is clear that u wont, so i wont bother with u anymore. uve shown u r bias towards mr. nubret, and that is enough for me not to give a shit what u have to say, because anyone who is bias will not see things the way they truly are in the light of day.

hope this helps... because u need it. :)

with all due respect Made in Montana, and i do respect you for your quality input re reeves and nubret, GoneAway has a good point.

i would certainly agree with you that the best ferrigno doesn't even compare to nubret in the midsection dept., but the point was made that your pic illustrating your point was somewhat unfair due to the aforementioned reasons.

i agree that this is a thread about serge and those posting on it should be respectful, but when assertions are made one way or another re nubret's superiority over othe pro bbers, you should expect a counter post or 2, especially when what you're offering is somewhat biased.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1181 on: October 31, 2007, 07:17:43 PM »
I have a question about the arm training. It says to do supersets with biceps and triceps for 16 sets. Does that mean each bodypart would get counted as its own set, totaling 8 sets each or does it mean do biceps and triceps and one superset is a set?

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1182 on: October 31, 2007, 11:39:55 PM »
Serge-I see that your trunks were different color(blue) in that pic in 75 Olympia
I assume that was prejudging?
Do you feel that your condition 2 weeks prior to 75 O was even better than your previous best in 1972 Essen Olympia?

Quite the same.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1183 on: November 01, 2007, 12:11:08 AM »
Hi. You hit the nail on the head with training has to be fun and Im enjoying the fact that Im training more regularly and with less weight through this style. Agreed, each to their own and I'll continue as discussed.

EVERYBODY - Lets keep this thread positive.

Serge - Please could you posts a "Typical" days/weeks eating as I know you are still 10kg away from top shape. Many thanks.

Hi TREV

I try to stay out of this, first because this discusion does not go any way. I posted already about my training program and my diet program too. About my training program, I just listen to my body, and my body always told me what to do, when to do it, because I think that body if you know how to listen to it, is more cleaver than scientist, what we call "INSTINCT". I do two things that I love, I love to eat, and I love to train. Two things which go perfectly together. I prefer to do 2000 situps for example and go home and eat what I want, don't need to diet like a creasy man, some pieces of dry chicken without sauce, with a bowl of rice without sauce either. I am a human before to be a bodybuilder,I love and enjoy life, it's why maybe I am still there in good shape. I prefer to train 3 or 4 hours too, instead of 45 mn for the same reason.

I am not stupid, I know I could have maybe the same result with only 1/3 of the time i am spending, sets, reps, but the price to pay, for me is too high. I am not a chicken of today made in some chicken factory, which they can eat in only 3 months of life, but a chicken of the farm, of those old days which it took time to make, this last one is more tasty, good health, which you fell secure to eat.

Just to tell you that my training did not change a lot from what I used to do. I just try to loose 2kg of fat every month and get back 2kg of muscle in the same time. No diet, eat enough protein to get back those muscles, not too much carb to loose the extra fat, so in 5 months every things should be in place. TREVOR, I want to be a 365 days bodybuilder, without dieting, and not 1 week one, "ONLY FOR A SHOW" IT'S WHY I STILL DO A MAX OF ABOMINAL, because it's the only muscle you can train without burning the muscle. And I hate aerobic exercices, I know that those are god for the heart, but as my training is already a kind of aerobic, so it's perfect.

Hoping that this post will stop the discission about my training methode, and explain why I am training in this way. But only people how love bodybuilding can use it. You can paint a all building in a fews hours or days, but it will take you months to paint the "JOCODE" or the "LAST DINNER" of "DA VINCI" two are art and the other one is just painting.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1184 on: November 01, 2007, 12:12:55 AM »
Lionel looks incredible by the way!  :o

Yes he getting ready for the NABBA Mr.Universe, which will be held in Spain in 4 weeks.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1185 on: November 01, 2007, 12:18:01 AM »
I have a question about the arm training. It says to do supersets with biceps and triceps for 16 sets. Does that mean each bodypart would get counted as its own set, totaling 8 sets each or does it mean do biceps and triceps and one superset is a set?

16 sets of triceps and 16 sets of biceps.

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Re: Serge, Lou...and the rest...
« Reply #1186 on: November 01, 2007, 05:42:05 AM »
BEAST 8692 hit the nail on the head. at least one person understood my point. :)

Made in Montana, i wont force my point on u anymore, as history speaks for itself. but we can both agree that serge has a beautiful body, aesthetic and powerful at the same time. i am a fan of serge, incase u thought otherwise. i am just a fan of bbing in general. the 70's were a great time for the sport.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1187 on: November 01, 2007, 06:09:46 AM »
Now...if someone wants to say Lou should have won, or Serge should have won or that Arnold is in their opinion the rightful winner...it's fine because each guy here might have a different idol and think to himself "I want to look like this guy or that guy."
The only thing that's important in the end is sportsmanship...people can decide their own winner for themselves...and it might be different for everyone. It's o.k.










lol people dont need your permission. haha what a clown you are ;D


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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1188 on: November 01, 2007, 06:20:56 AM »
Hi TREV

I try to stay out of this, first because this discusion does not go any way. I posted already about my training program and my diet program too. About my training program, I just listen to my body, and my body always told me what to do, when to do it, because I think that body if you know how to listen to it, is more cleaver than scientist, what we call "INSTINCT". I do two things that I love, I love to eat, and I love to train. Two things which go perfectly together. I prefer to do 2000 situps for example and go home and eat what I want, don't need to diet like a creasy mam, some pieces of dry chicken without sauce, with a bowl of rice without sauce either. I am a human before to be a bodybuilder, it's why maybe I am still there in good shape. I prefer to train 3 or For hours too instead of 45 mn for the same reason.
I am not stupid, I know I could have maybe the same result with only 1/3 of the time, sets, reps, but the price to pay, for me is too high. I am not a chicken of today, which they can eat in only 3 month of life, but a chicken of those old days which it took time to make, this last one is more tasty, good helth, which you fell secure to it.
Just to tell you that my training did not change a lot from what I used to do. I just try to loose 2kg of fat every month and get back 2kg of muscle in the same time. No diet, eat enough protein to get back those muscle, not too much carb to loose the extra fat, so in 5 months every thing should be in place. TREVOR, I want to be a 365 days bodybuilder, without dieting, and not 1 week one, "ONLY FOR A SHOW" IT'S WHY I STILL DO A MAX OF ABOMINAL, because it's the only muscle you can train without burning the muscle. And I hate arerobic exercice, I know that those are god for the heart, but as my training is already a kind of aerobic, so it's perfect.

Hoping that this post will stop the discission about my training methode, and explain why I am training in this way. But only people how love bodybuilding can use it.

Serge Nubret
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http://www.sergenubret.com/muscleawards
http://www.sergenubret.com/personaltrainer



Many thanks Serge, great post - I agree that a lot of people on here do not understand your philosophy and of all the posts you have made, this one is probably the best. I can relate to your thoughts as Im ONLY interested in being a 365 day bodybuilder now. I harboured ambitions of competing years ago and thus bulked up and stuck to "Bodybuilding Diets" BUT I am now not prepared to take all the risks necessary with modern competitive bodybuilding. I am therefore cutting up with the intention of staying very lean (now without aerobics) whilst adding muscle so I look like a bodybuilder full time and can create the best physique from an artistic point of view possible. Im eating "Normally" and whatever I want and Im enjoying my bodybuilding more than I ever have. I hope the youngers guys on here will continue to learn from you too and that the more experience will be enlightened and respect why you do what you do - At the end of the day, you must be THE worlds number 1 bodybuilder in his 60's and that speaks for itself.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1189 on: November 01, 2007, 02:57:16 PM »
lol people dont need your permission. haha what a clown you are ;D

Considering what you said about Steve Reeves, that's a compliment. No one read my post and thought I said anyone needed permission--except you, Slave. Only slaves worry about needing permission to do anything. One need only to look at your avatar to see who the real clown is.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1190 on: November 01, 2007, 03:36:11 PM »
I'm only on page 19 of this thread, but I'm going to read it all the way through soon.  It's really him...wow
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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1191 on: November 01, 2007, 06:55:12 PM »
I'm only on page 19 of this thread, but I'm going to read it all the way through soon.  It's really him...wow

Did you still have a dout?...

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1192 on: November 01, 2007, 06:59:09 PM »
Did you still have a dout?...

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i dont doubt but it is still weird to be sharing the same message board/forum with the legendary Serge Nubret......its like talking to sean connery or sylvester stallone on "MSN Messenger"

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1193 on: November 02, 2007, 12:23:39 AM »
i dont doubt but it is still weird to be sharing the same message board/forum with the legendary Serge Nubret......its like talking to sean connery or sylvester stallone on "MSN Messenger"

Oh!...my godness that's a nice comparation.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1194 on: November 02, 2007, 04:33:09 AM »
hello serge. what is your favourite bodybuilding pose to use on stage or for photos?

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1195 on: November 02, 2007, 04:43:41 AM »
hello serge. what is your favourite bodybuilding pose to use on stage or for photos?
I believe this one...he simply looks perfect like this.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1196 on: November 02, 2007, 04:50:43 AM »
I believe this one...he simply looks perfect like this.

that pose compliments him so well.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1197 on: November 02, 2007, 11:16:17 PM »
hello serge. what is your favourite bodybuilding pose to use on stage or for photos?

Sevastase jusy gave you the second best one, on the folowing post. But the first one is when i just stay about the same position without posing. For me that pose is the most easy one but the most difficult to do if you don't have a nice physique.

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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1198 on: November 03, 2007, 08:29:43 AM »
Serge, can you take us down memory lane and tell us what was going on in these pics?

Also, how old were you guys?





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Re: Serge Nubret is here
« Reply #1199 on: November 03, 2007, 08:35:48 AM »
I am pretty sure those are from 1969. I think Serge is 28 and Arnold 20.

I would also like to know what is going on there.
just push some weight!