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Title: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Ron on September 20, 2017, 10:52:55 PM
Tentative competitor list for the Arnold Classic Europe (Spain) contests on Sep 23-34th in Barcelona...


2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Bodybuilding Competitor List

Jaime Atienza (Spain)
Lionel Beyeke (France)
William Bonac (Netherlands)
Manuel Canadillas (Spain)
Maxx Charles (USA)
Mamdouh 'Big Ramy' Elssbiay (Egypt)
Johnnie Jackson (USA)
Petar Klancir (Croatia)
Josh Lenartowicz (Australia)
Michael Lockett (USA)
Victor Martinez (Dominican Republic)
Marek Olegniczak (Poland)
Mauro Pulido (Venezuela)
Shawn Rhoden (USA)
Fred Smalls (USA)
Gerald Williams (USA)
Roelly Winklaar (Curacao)


2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Physique Competitor List

Kim Angel (Switzerland)
Robin Balogh (Hungary)
Alex Gonzalez Benitez (Spain)
Sergi Constance (Spain)
Juan Faro (Spain)
Kenneth Guevara (Spain)
Dennis Johansen (Norway)
Ondrej Kmostak (Czech Republic)
Mario Hervas Lopez (Spain)
Francesco Montuori (Italy)
Adriano Moreno (Spain)
Andrea Mosti (Italy)
Maxime Parisi (France)
Nelson Rodrigues (Portugal)
Alexandros Staboulis (Finland)
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Bevo on September 20, 2017, 11:08:12 PM
Why isn't Phil competing?

Jay, Ronnie, all competed in shows after the O
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 20, 2017, 11:10:15 PM
Petar for an easy win.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Disgusted on September 21, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
The only guy with the genetics to beat Phil.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: NickEdge779 on September 21, 2017, 12:42:34 AM
Big Ramy wins and Sergi Constance wins
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2017, 12:45:04 AM
The only guy with the genetics to beat Phil.


Phil has been "beaten" already, its just he keeps placing 1st.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Disgusted on September 21, 2017, 12:46:43 AM

Phil has been "beaten" already, its just he keeps placing 1st.

 No arguement here.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Disgusted on September 21, 2017, 12:56:30 AM
This guy beats Phil in every pose.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Disgusted on September 21, 2017, 01:04:25 AM
The great white hope we have been looking for?

In my opinion yes he's got everything. All the body parts very full muscle bellies striaitons head to toe. No bubble gut, yet.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Ron on September 21, 2017, 12:28:10 PM

Not sure why Phil is not competing?  But yes, Big Ramy!
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2017, 12:51:29 PM
Not sure why Phil is not competing?  But yes, Big Ramy!

see above picture....
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: illuminati on September 21, 2017, 12:57:01 PM
Not sure why Phil is not competing?  But yes, Big Ramy!


As he hasn't won the last few Olympia's
He knows he is hardly likely to win that comp.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: bigkid on September 21, 2017, 01:37:02 PM
I don't think Phil's done a show outside of the Mr. O in years.  Guess Phil is following in the previous Mr. O's shoes.  Ronnie and Dorian would usually do a few shows after.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: macgyver on September 21, 2017, 02:12:13 PM
Not sure why Phil is not competing?  But yes, Big Ramy!

400K reasons not to do it.  ;D
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: balzac on September 21, 2017, 02:31:46 PM
Why isn't Phil competing?

scared to loose...

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Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: JAGO on September 21, 2017, 02:36:26 PM
No Dexter?

J
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: JAGO on September 21, 2017, 02:45:44 PM
Petar Klancir . . . Why is this guy not winning everything?
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Simple Simon on September 21, 2017, 02:46:15 PM
Petar Klancir . . . Why is this guy not winning everything?

he hasn't paid his dues....
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Disgusted on September 21, 2017, 05:58:37 PM
he hasn't paid his dues....

Yep and fuck that. Just my opinion but he's flawless. He could easily win the Olympia even next year. But people will say he doesn't have 3D looking muscles or he lacks maturity.  ::) I've always been the type that the best should win period
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Royalty on September 21, 2017, 06:04:23 PM
Big Ramy
William Bonac
Lionel Beyeke
Maxx Charles
Roelly Winklaar
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Dan-O on September 21, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Call me crazy, but I just think Bonac is the only guy currently that has that Colemanesque muscle maturity and detail.  Heath is the only other guy with that 3-D pop to his physique.  Jay Cutler never had that and that's why I was never a fan.

That Klancir dude looks really good but he doesn't have that crazy detail that only comes with time and maturity.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: calfzilla on September 21, 2017, 11:30:55 PM
Why isn't Phil competing?

Jay, Ronnie, all competed in shows after the O

Exactly what I was thinking.

I bet it's because he's a pus and he knows there is a high likelihood of him losing, not being protected by certain judges etc.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: calfzilla on September 21, 2017, 11:32:51 PM
400K reasons not to do it.  ;D

Phil still resorting to gimmicks.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Nether Animal on September 22, 2017, 12:19:28 PM
he hasn't paid his dues....

And ironically, by the time he has paid them
 His physique will be maxed out, with a gut. Question is, do the schmoes pulling the strings prefer that look? Bay has made it obvious that injury riddled, past prime mass monsters are high dollar items. Take later era branch for example.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: calfzilla on September 22, 2017, 12:34:04 PM
And ironically, by the time he has paid them
 His physique will be maxed out, with a gut. Question is, do the schmoes pulling the strings prefer that look? Bay has made it obvious that injury riddled, past prime mass monsters are high dollar items. Take later era branch for example.

Also Dennis Wolf
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Gregzs on September 22, 2017, 07:04:46 PM
Arnold Amateur Europe Juniors Top 6

Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Gregzs on September 22, 2017, 07:52:31 PM
Bikini Fitness Finals

Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Ron on September 22, 2017, 10:21:55 PM
For the IFBB Pro League contest....

Saturday Pro Athlete Meeting at 3:30pm.
5pm Prejudging.
Finals at 7pm.
Barcelona, Spain Time.
(9hrs ahead of PST Time)
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: musclecenter on September 23, 2017, 06:51:36 AM
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: musclecenter on September 23, 2017, 06:55:02 AM
IFBB TV Official
(over 8 hours video)

Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: stuntmovie on September 23, 2017, 07:34:42 AM
BETHERE .... The term "Paid his dues" can mean many different things to many different people.

And that term  plus 'It's politics" have been around for a long time now.

If possible would you give me some idea of what has to be done that would suffice for payment of one's dues.

I wss not present when Danny Hester won his Olympia title last year but many fans  say that the payment of his dues got him tha twin.

I would only agree with that statement if his 'payment'  was a result of  the large number of years in which he has compted within the NPC.

So ... In your mind what requirements are necessary to 'pay those dues'?

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Simple Simon on September 23, 2017, 07:41:11 AM
BETHERE .... The term "Paid his dues" can mean many different things to many different people.

And that term  plus 'It's politics" have been around for a long time now.

If possible would you give me some idea of what has to be done that would suffice for payment of one's dues.

I wss not present when Danny Hester won his Olympia title last year but many fans  say that the payment of his dues got him tha twin.

I would only agree with that statement if his 'payment'  was a result of  the large number of years in which he has compted within the NPC.

So ... In your mind what requirements are necessary to 'pay those dues'?

Thanks!

it was tongue in cheek, no one should have to pay their dues, but people in pro shows get placed on reputation coming into shows rather than on the day.

Its clear that guy has a pro show winning physique, but when people like Roelly turn up who is clearly the worst bodybuilder of the two Roelly wins..
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 23, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
I was at the show in 2016 and Petar was stolen.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: ARNIE1947 on September 23, 2017, 10:05:11 AM
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Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: ARNIE1947 on September 23, 2017, 10:09:39 AM
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Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: TK on September 23, 2017, 10:46:21 AM
First call out was

Big Ramy
William Bonac
Roelly Winklaar
Nathan De Asha
Shawn Rhoden

Looks like they may be placed in that order for the results tonight


Second call out

Maxx Charles
Victor Martinez
Fred Smalls
Peter Klancir


Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 23, 2017, 12:31:14 PM
2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Bodybuilding Contest Results

1. Mamdouh 'Big Ramy' Elssbiay (Egypt)
2. William Bonac (Netherlands)
3. Shawn Rhoden (USA)
4. Roelly Winklaar (Curacao)
5. Nathan De Ashsa (United Kingdom)
6. Maxx Charles (USA)
7. Petar Klancir (Croatia)
8. Victor Martinez (Dominican Republic)
9. Marek Olegniczak (Poland)
10 Fred Smalls (USA)
11. Michael Lockett (USA)
12. Gerald Williams (USA)
13. Johnnie Jackson (USA)
14. Manual Canadadillas (Spain)
15. Jaime Atienza (Spain)
16. Mauro Pulido (Venezuela)


2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Physique
Contest Results


1. Ondrej Kmostak (Czech Republic)
2. Robin Balogh (Hungary)
3. Kim Angel (Switzerland)
4. Alexandros Staboulis (Finland)
5. Andrea Mosti (Italy)
6. Adriano Moreno (Spain)
7. Dennis Johansen (Norway)
8. Maxime Parisi (France)
9. Nelson Rodrigues (Portugal)
10. Juan Faro (Spain)
11. Francesco Montuori (Italy)
12. Kenneth Guevara (Spain)
13. Alex Gonzalez Benitez (Spain)
14. Mario Hervas Lopez (Spain)

Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 23, 2017, 02:43:16 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Royalty on September 23, 2017, 02:47:43 PM
Ramy is solidifying his place as the 2nd best BB on the planet
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Tarantula157 on September 23, 2017, 03:07:39 PM
Great win for Ramy,and what a humble champion unlike the arrogant Philsulina.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Royalty on September 23, 2017, 03:37:37 PM
This pic shows what a guy who does not have access to GH looks like. Guess which guy is not on GH...
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Never1AShow on September 23, 2017, 04:31:26 PM
Phil still resorting to gimmicks.

Speaking of gimmicks, it occurred to me that Phils little belly button monster may have been an intentional effort to introduce belly button jewelry into bodybuilding starting at next year's Mr. O.  Phil can have the designer line all ready to go to market and then Bam, clean up as first mover for the newest fad in bodybuilding.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on September 23, 2017, 05:24:45 PM
 :)
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: gib on September 23, 2017, 05:40:49 PM
Petar for an easy win.

Wow!!!
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: WalterWhite on September 23, 2017, 05:47:15 PM
2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Bodybuilding Contest Results

1. Mamdouh 'Big Ramy' Elssbiay (Egypt)
2. William Bonac (Netherlands)
3. Shawn Rhoden (USA)
4. Roelly Winklaar (Curacao)
5. Nathan De Ashsa (United Kingdom)
6. Maxx Charles (USA)
7. Petar Klancir (Croatia)
8. Victor Martinez (Dominican Republic)
9. Marek Olegniczak (Poland)
10 Fred Smalls (USA)
11. Michael Lockett (USA)
12. Gerald Williams (USA)
13. Johnnie Jackson (USA)
14. Manual Canadadillas (Spain)
15. Jaime Atienza (Spain)
16. Mauro Pulido (Venezuela)


2017 Arnold Classic Spain IFBB Pro Men's Physique
Contest Results


1. Ondrej Kmostak (Czech Republic)
2. Robin Balogh (Hungary)
3. Kim Angel (Switzerland)
4. Alexandros Staboulis (Finland)
5. Andrea Mosti (Italy)
6. Adriano Moreno (Spain)
7. Dennis Johansen (Norway)
8. Maxime Parisi (France)
9. Nelson Rodrigues (Portugal)
10. Juan Faro (Spain)
11. Francesco Montuori (Italy)
12. Kenneth Guevara (Spain)
13. Alex Gonzalez Benitez (Spain)
14. Mario Hervas Lopez (Spain)


Roelly and Nathan get screwed and sleepy Shawn gets another gift. ::)
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Bevo on September 23, 2017, 06:56:10 PM
Victor should retire, his placing aren’t what they used to be, quite sad
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Bevo on September 23, 2017, 06:57:06 PM
I was at the show in 2016 and Petar was stolen.


Did someone steal his posing thongs?
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Simple Simon on September 24, 2017, 01:17:57 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=636566.0;attach=744969;image)

thats really piss poor conditioning for a pro bodybuilder, his legs look offseason

I think he's regressing faster than Heath....
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: rudylrichards on September 24, 2017, 06:54:15 AM
Petar Klancir . . . Why is this guy not winning everything?
from the pic you posted, the other guys look better!! Probably the reason he's not winning everything ??
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Gregzs on September 24, 2017, 07:45:59 AM
Mika Sihvonen Winner of Arnold Classic Europe Amateur

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Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: Parker on September 24, 2017, 08:26:23 AM
from the pic you posted, the other guys look better!! Probably the reason he's not winning everything ??
Where is Petar's back pics? He looks good from the front, not outstandingly, no real "pop" to his muscles. Like Phil or hate him, he's got that certain look, Palumbo and others call it a "3D effect".
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Cableguy on September 24, 2017, 10:11:43 AM
Ramy displaying piano key serratus and intercostals, a rare thing these days, especially for someone his size. And he looks like he reduced his thighs slightly. Hopefully he'll keep moving in this direction! And Rhoden's midsection looked very tight. Very cautiously optimistic.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Gregzs on September 24, 2017, 01:33:01 PM
Mika Sihvonen of Finland 80kg (176 lbs)

https://www.instagram.com/mika_sihvonen/

Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Competitor Lists
Post by: rudylrichards on September 24, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
Where is Petar's back pics? He looks good from the front, not outstandingly, no real "pop" to his muscles. Like Phil or hate him, he's got that certain look, Palumbo and others call it a "3D effect".
come on Parker, why would they show back pics?? It might prove that he doesn't beat Phil from any angle. Petar looks great but Phil is another level, love him or hate him. It's silly to say he can beat him from any angle or any pose.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Gregzs on September 24, 2017, 06:49:39 PM
Overall Amateur Posedown

https://www.facebook.com/TEAMANDROcom/videos/1613841875327172/
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: delta9mda on September 24, 2017, 10:02:36 PM
Bonac should have won Arnold.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 25, 2017, 10:34:14 AM
Overall Amateur winner.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: French on September 25, 2017, 10:38:00 AM
Petar, a bit off at the show but one of the top ten in the world.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Parker on September 25, 2017, 03:02:08 PM
Overall Amateur winner.

I guess we will see more of him putting protein powder on his face and running around with a wild eyed look.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on September 26, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
I guess we will see more of him putting protein powder on his face and running around with a wild eyed look.
He's an Irish resident believe it or not
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: pellius on September 29, 2017, 12:00:01 AM
Ramy displaying piano key serratus and intercostals, a rare thing these days, especially for someone his size. And he looks like he reduced his thighs slightly. Hopefully he'll keep moving in this direction! And Rhoden's midsection looked very tight. Very cautiously optimistic.

He keeps getting better every year. Really starting to nail his conditioning. Whereas Phil gets more smooth and glazy, Ramy is starting to get more dry and grainy. Waist and abs are jaw dropping, especially being at or near 300lbs.
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on September 29, 2017, 07:24:53 AM
bonac is considered great now only because the whole level of the pros declined!!.. imagine him standing next to shawn ray or levrone at their primes!!.. yes he has good muscle bellies and comes in a good condition,.. over all a good bbr but his upper body looks like it's pressed!!.. no v shape,.. he is good in most of the mandatory poses but not "great" in any of them.. on the other hand ramy's main problem is still the condition.. he has improved it but still needs much more and i think he cant do this unless he scarifies some size.. other than the condition ramy has a much better structure than most of the current pros..
Title: Re: 2017 Arnold Classic Spain - Results - Discussion - Pics - Competitor Lists
Post by: falco on September 29, 2017, 07:58:32 AM
Who the hell chooses Barcelona for the Arnold??? Ibiza is less than 15 miles from there!!!