Yeah, there's that story that when he first met Arnold, Arnold said "hello, I am Mr. America!" and Vince replied "Really? You look like a fat fuck to me." Obviously an early getbigger.
think he trained with vince for like 1yr maybe 2 cant member, wonder what he taught him re training
some things were mentioned in the encyclpdia so he did give credit to vince
prob train advice geared towards shape def condi seperat etc cause arn had the mass when he got here
i woulda listend to anything gironda had to say, lot cool stuff he put out there
sppsdly gironda was against sauce so thats why he never "fit in" to the popular cirlces