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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: The True Adonis on June 10, 2013, 12:16:40 PM
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99 Dollar Games
http://www.amazon.com/Watch-Dogs-Xbox-One/dp/B00CX8VY4S/ref=pd_sim_sbs_vg_3
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Console Prices
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On a side Note:
Xbox Live members get 2 free games a month to download.
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Those are special editions. Always been like that.
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Everything should just be subscription based online games. No more going to a store or ordering online shit.
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Those are special editions. Always been like that.
Nope.
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just looked at the e3 game trailers
metal gear looks amazing
most of the other ones need to up their game
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On a side Note:
Xbox Live members get 2 free games a month to download.
Another way they copied Sony
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and supposedly there's no inflation... ::)
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So glad I've been using Steam since it debuted.
Seriously, this is the console generation people really need to reevaluate PC gaming. Buy a good gaming laptop, put it in a backpack, load it with a mouse, wired (or wireless) controller, and when you are at home just plug it in to your big screen via HDMI.
Not to mention Steam sales. Holy crap games can get soooo cheap on Steam during sales. If you are patient, you can have a library of over 300 games and only invested 1000$. Oh, and...backwards compatibility. Yeah.
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Won't buy until the price calibrates around a grand per title. :D
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So glad I've been using Steam since it debuted.
Seriously, this is the console generation people really need to reevaluate PC gaming. Buy a good gaming laptop, put it in a backpack, load it with a mouse, wired (or wireless) controller, and when you are at home just plug it in to your big screen via HDMI.
Not to mention Steam sales. Holy crap games can get soooo cheap on Steam during sales. If you are patient, you can have a library of over 300 games and only invested 1000$. Oh, and...backwards compatibility. Yeah.
Have you considered trying people, Tommyboy?
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i can care less about graphics...to a point of corse
i want a wicked game with tons of options/buttons ect
those nba games really sucked unless you learn all the plays and picked the best teams to seal a win ::)
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Just got my daughter the PS3 and now I have to get her the PS4
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Have you considered trying people, Tommyboy?
People are overrated. I'm an introverted gamer/bodybuilder and I'd like to keep it that way.
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i can care less about graphics...to a point of corse
i want a wicked game with tons of options/buttons ect
those nba games really sucked unless you learn all the plays and picked the best teams to seal a win ::)
You need to play this:
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On a side Note:
Xbox Live members get 2 free games a month to download.
Until the Xbox one comes out this November.... First two games are Halo 3 and Assassins Creed 2
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The game will not be $99. It's a placeholder. This happens with pre-orders all the time.
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When I was in elementary school and playing Nintendo, I remember a little 8 bit game costing $80. That was the late 80's.
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Nope.
Yeah it is dumb ass. Check the link you provided retard. Then hit the XBox One version of the game.
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Yeah it is. I just pre-ordered a XBox One from best buy.
AHHAAHAHA
Ever site I have visited has games for 100 dollars. :-\
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sony just announced used game support, no online-authentication, etc.
poor / internetless people around the world, rejoice, i guess.
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Ok, prices are updated I see to 59.99. They all read 100 at every site earlier and right before E3.
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Ok, prices are updated I see to 59.99. They all read 100 at every site earlier and right before E3.
You're a fuckn' retard.
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sony just announced used game support, no online-authentication, etc.
poor / internetless people around the world, rejoice, i guess.
Always Online requirement is stupid. Used Game Authentication and limits are stupid. Most games are pieces of shit not worth full price, like Far Cry 3.
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You're a fuckn' retard.
And you look like shit. Hope this helps.
Also, why did you name yourself after a Black Slave?
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And you look like shit. Hope this helps.
Also, why did you name yourself after a Black Slave?
How is it even possible to be dumber than you originally come off as?
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Sony just PWNED the shit out of Xbox with the used game announcement. Xbox will have to revise it or suffer the consequences.
The only good thing about Xbox so far is Metal Gear, other than that, not much else.
To think, I supported Xbox since 2001 and now its turned into a Television Cable Box which puts limits and restrictions on its customers.
PS4 is better so far.
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How is it even possible to be dumber than you originally come off as?
Never heard of Nicodemus the Slave?
Its a legend. Are you black?
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You put 3 claims in your title header. 2 out of 3 are false.
That sir. Reiterates you as a retard.
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PS4 $399
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You put 3 claims in your title header. 2 out of 3 are false.
That sir. Reiterates you as a retard.
You are a retard. I posted what was showing up on Websites before E3. The information has since been updated.
You still look like shit though. Hope this helps.
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You are a retard. I posted what was showing up on Websites before E3. The information has since been updated.
You still look like shit though. Hope this helps.
Lol-I accept the f a g g ot s white flag.
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PS4 $399
PS4 is going to take this easily. The extra 100 dollars and Restrictions and Limits are not worth it, not to mention you have to pay for Xbox Live.
What does Xbox have going for it at this point?
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Lol-I accept the f a g g ot s white flag.
Hey, you PWNED yourself anyways with your Xbox One Pre-order. I think we all know who the real retard is now. :D
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Hey, you PWNED yourself anyways with your Xbox One Pre-order. I think we all know who the real retard is now. :D
I will pre-order both. ;)
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I will pre-order both. ;)
Sure you will.
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Sure you will.
Why not? I have no allegiance to any one game company. I bought a wack ass Nintendo U just for the fuck of it.
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Why not? I have no allegiance to any one game company. I bought a wack ass Nintendo U just for the fuck of it.
Do you just buy things to buy things?
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I honestly thought the Nintendo U would have at least 2 good games out by now. But they havn't released shit. No Zelda ,no Mario, nothing.
I just dig video games.
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Why not? I have no allegiance to any one game company. I bought a wack ass Nintendo U just for the fuck of it.
"Nicademus" here already made a cool 37 million dollars in lucrative stock options trades before noon. Then went online and pre ordered every next gen console and game after banging a couple supermodels in his plush Leer jet 30k feet above Fiji.
He pisses away $400 like its nothing.
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All true except most of it.
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I honestly thought the Nintendo U would have at least 2 good games out by now. But they havn't released shit. No Zelda ,no Mario, nothing.
I just dig video games.
Gayer than pre-ordering so you can be the first to upload an unboxing video.
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I'm pretty satisfied with my PS3 for now. I can't stand people that have to get the latest bullshit.
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Just pre-ordered the PS4 at Best Buy. No unboxing vids for me.
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Just pre-ordered the PS4 at Best Buy. No unboxing vids for me.
In other words, you do not EVER get laid..
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In other words, you do not EVER get laid..
Lol-jeolousy is a bitch.
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I'm pretty satisfied with my PS3 for now. I can't stand people that have to get the latest bullshit.
Nicademus just proved yet again, he is a moron. hahha
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Nicademus just proved yet again, he is a moron. hahha
I get all the new shit.
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Nicademus just proved yet again, he is a moron. hahha
ROFL! ;D
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Don't be mad it's just a video game. It makes you come off as very feminine and petty.
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Sony won the next console generation tonight. I pre-orderd a PS4 already after their E3.
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they haven't "won" anything... the used game thing / "supporting consumers" stuff is going to mean very little in the long run
sony is off to a good start, but i highly doubt either ms or sony is going to be able to make a huge dent in the other's marketshare over the entire generation, much less over something as trivial as "used games policy". nintendo, on the other hand, made an absolutely horrendous mistake with the wiiu. there is no hope for underpowered consoles.
the only reason the used game fiasco is such a talking point is a lack of other talking points...
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who the fuck has time to play video games?
I still have a fucking ps2... and maybe, MAYBE, on a Wednesday night... if I don't have any early clients, i'll play SOCOM 3 for 20mins. before bed.
what adult has time to sit through an entire game of Madden anymore? let alone waste $300 on a console?
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Lol sony made a funny
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it's not like the NSA have back door access to the camera and mic and measuring you HR, aura of your soul and xray of your brainwaves and thought pattern or anything like that ::)
Oh wait, the brainwave controller comes only with XBOX 2... ::) ::)
(http://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownload.com/media/2008/12/emotivdec1.jpg)
it's all fun and games..
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they haven't "won" anything... the used game thing / "supporting consumers" stuff is going to mean very little in the long run
Yup. Everybody talks about Steam, but they fail to mention there's no used market there. People are making too big a deal about his. People will buy the console that has the games they like, and the ones their friends have so they can play online.
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both consols are gonna lose money, there gonna have to make games more realistic and mature if they want adults with fat wallets to buy something bad ass
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Sony is going to win this one. Microsoft dropped the ball big time with the always on and used game restrictions. The only thing that may save the xbox one are their exclusive titles.
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Sony is going to win this one. Microsoft dropped the ball big time with the always on and used game restrictions. The only thing that may save the xbox one are their exclusive titles.
It's not going to have the effect you think it will.
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It's not going to have the effect you think it will.
What won't? Used game restrictions. How does it work?
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My only problem is, why did they make their next gens so similar? :D
Why can't one be white and the other black etc, one have blue lights and the other have red
They even used similar half-pattern
(http://cdn.ndtv.com/tech/images/gadgets/ps4-vs-xbox.jpg)
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To think, I supported Xbox since 2001 and now its turned into a Television Cable Box which puts limits and restrictions on its customers.
PS4 is better so far.
It hasn't. MS is trying to position it as the main media portal that also connects to tablets/smartphones. It will still have tons of games and multiple media streaming options. If you haven't been able to figure this out, you haven't been paying much attention. Will it work? We will see in 5 years.
For the PS4, publishers are still free to put whatever restrictions/online passes/etc. in their games, the "NO DRM, No online check in" is for physical media only, not a deal breaker but still caveat.
2 systems with 2 differing takes. I'll go out on a limb and proclaim this upcoming generation will end much like this current one did, in a dead heat.
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What won't? Used game restrictions. How does it work?
Used game restrictions aren't going to have a huge impact on console sales. There will continue to be pressure applied from the publishers and it will become the norm.
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2 systems with 2 differing takes. I'll go out on a limb and proclaim this upcoming generation will end much like this current one did, in a dead heat.
Last one ended in a dead heat, but their starting points were very different.
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Used game restrictions aren't going to have a huge impact on console sales. There will continue to be pressure applied from the publishers and it will become the norm.
I appreciate your opinion.
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I appreciate your opinion.
Do you think it will?
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What won't? Used game restrictions. How does it work?
Each game must be installed on the HD and is then linked to the owners Xbox Live account via the entering of a passcode included with the game.
To sell your used game (I'm assuming from what I've read)
-Deactivate game from your account.
-Take physical media to an official used game retailer.
-They assign a new passcode
-They sell game.
MS did mention that there will be a Xbox Live marketplace where you can just sell games and skip the retailer but they haven't given many details.
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Do you think it will?
It seems to matter to a lot of people from what I've been reading. I just assumed from the overwhelmingly negative response to Xbox one that it would matter. You might have access to more accurate information than I do. I know personally that I can't imagine spending sixty bucks on certain games. Some games, like any of the fallout series I'm willing to pay full price for. I've been burned to many times in the past when I've purchased a new game that turned out to be a dud. I at least had the peace of mind that I could turn it in for something else.
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It seems to matter to a lot of people from what I've been reading. I just assumed from the overwhelmingly negative response to Xbox one that it would matter. You might have access to more accurate information than I do. I know personally that I can't imagine spending sixty bucks on certain games. Some games, like any of the fallout series I'm willing to pay full price for. I've been burned to many times in the past when I've purchased a new game that turned out to be a dud. I at least had the peace of mind that I could turn it in for something else.
The problem is, when you turn it in - two things happen: you get completely ripped off, and the publisher makes no additional money. It was bound to be corrected.
I understand your standpoint, but I think a lot of what we're seeing right now is just bitching, and these guys always by the next console anyways.
What have you gotten burned on. Legit question. I ask, because generally there's enough info out there to know when a game sucks.
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ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
at this point i'm much more impressed with the exclusive games for xbox one
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Sony won. There will be very few developers stupid enough, or had enough $$ slung at them by MS to make their next games XBONE exclusives. All Sony has to do now is stick to their promise and not go anti-consumer like MS and they win. You are correct, people will go to the system their buddy is playing on. Hence why the PS4 will win. You buy a XBONE you are a tard for no ability of foresight whatsoever.
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ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
at this point i'm much more impressed with the exclusive games for xbox one
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It didn't sell better , they both sold around the same.
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It didn't sell better , they both sold around the same.
in the beginning it sold much better
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in the beginning it sold much better
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Not what you said is it?
And they had a year head start which is why they also had a 33% failure rate and it cost Microsoft $1 Billion to rectify
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there's no pics of muscle guys in thongs in this thread.
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Sony won. There will be very few developers stupid enough, or had enough $$ slung at them by MS to make their next games XBONE exclusives. All Sony has to do now is stick to their promise and not go anti-consumer like MS and they win. You are correct, people will go to the system their buddy is playing on. Hence why the PS4 will win. You buy a XBONE you are a tard for no ability of foresight whatsoever.
;)
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looking at the trailers the xbox graphics look better
is it higher spec
i would have expected sony to have better graphics
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Sony won. There will be very few developers stupid enough, or had enough $$ slung at them by MS to make their next games XBONE exclusives. All Sony has to do now is stick to their promise and not go anti-consumer like MS and they win. You are correct, people will go to the system their buddy is playing on. Hence why the PS4 will win. You buy a XBONE you are a tard for no ability of foresight whatsoever.
Bad thoughts.
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;)
Sony said they won't impose restrictions, but apparently the Sony will allow the publishers to implement restrictions if they choose to do so. That's not quite as cut and dry as "no fees or restrictions". Now the question is, will the publishers impose restrictions or not?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-ps4-used-game-restrictions-up-to-publishers
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Not what you said is it?
And they had a year head start which is why they also had a 33% failure rate and it cost Microsoft $1 Billion to rectify
it sold much better in the beginning and is still outselling the ps3, especially in the US
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who the fuck has time to play video games?
I still have a fucking ps2... and maybe, MAYBE, on a Wednesday night... if I don't have any early clients, i'll play SOCOM 3 for 20mins. before bed.
what adult has time to sit through an entire game of Madden anymore? let alone waste $300 on a console?
A rich, goodlooking Getbigger.
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Sony won. There will be very few developers stupid enough, or had enough $$ slung at them by MS to make their next games XBONE exclusives. All Sony has to do now is stick to their promise and not go anti-consumer like MS and they win. You are correct, people will go to the system their buddy is playing on. Hence why the PS4 will win. You buy a XBONE you are a tard for no ability of foresight whatsoever.
only a "gamer" could post something so stupid
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it sold much better in the beginning and is still outselling the ps3, especially in the US
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LMAO come back after doing a Google-scour? both have sold about 77 million consoles it's for all intents & purposes equal in sales.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=238426#.UO3qEImLyqA
And what does that mean ' it sold much better in the beginning ' ?
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LMAO come back after doing a Google-scour? both have sold about 77 million consoles it's for all intents & purposes equal in sales.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=238426#.UO3qEImLyqA
And what does that mean ' it sold much better in the beginning ' ?
maybe it means it sold more than the ps in the early days
it isnt rocket science
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Sony said they won't impose restrictions, but apparently the Sony will allow the publishers to implement restrictions if they choose to do so. That's not quite as cut and dry as "no fees or restrictions". Now the question is, will the publishers impose restrictions or not?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-ps4-used-game-restrictions-up-to-publishers
The consumer will ultimately decide. The question no one is asking is why the fuck is digital content the same price as physical disc? And why aren't we able to sell ' our ' digital content?
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maybe it means it sold more than the ps in the early days
it isnt rocket science
It had a year heard start. And if that's the case Sony has sold just as many in less time.
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Sony said they won't impose restrictions, but apparently the Sony will allow the publishers to implement restrictions if they choose to do so. That's not quite as cut and dry as "no fees or restrictions". Now the question is, will the publishers impose restrictions or not?
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-ps4-used-game-restrictions-up-to-publishers
EA Sports already does this in a sense. If you want to play online w/ a used game you have to purchase a "pass".
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PS4 is $399.00 here on pre-order from EB games.
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EA Sports already does this in a sense. If you want to play online w/ a used game you have to purchase a "pass".
They did away with that. Where have you been?
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LMAO come back after doing a Google-scour? both have sold about 77 million consoles it's for all intents & purposes equal in sales.
http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=238426#.UO3qEImLyqA
And what does that mean ' it sold much better in the beginning ' ?
i'm talking about the sales when both were on the market in 2006, 360 sold much better and to this day still outsells the ps3 in the US, think the 360 has won every month the last 3 years or so, and the wii was the console that was outselling it the other months not ps3
not sure why this is an issue with you but you always did try to argue about nothing
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Why bother having discs at all then? Xbox should just give the ultimate FU to everyone , and just sell downloadable games through MS Live.
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They did away with that. Where have you been?
You are quite the retard. Every EA Sports game out requires a code on the back of the instruction manuel to play online.
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You are quite the retard. Every EA Sports game out requires a code on the back of the instruction manuel to play online.
not anymore, that changed within the last month or so
they even released the codes for sport games that are outdated
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You are quite the retard. Every EA Sports game out requires a code on the back of the instruction manuel to play online.
Does it now?
https://help.ea.com/article/online-pass-has-been-discontinued
ONLINE PASS HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED, AND ITS REQUIREMENT FOR OLDER GAMES WILL BE ELIMINATED.
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not anymore, that changed within the last month or so
they even released the codes for sport games that are outdated
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Then I stand corrected.
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You are quite the retard. Every EA Sports game out requires a code on the back of the instruction manuel to play online.
PWNED yet again. You really need to stop doing this to yourself. You may be the biggest moron on here as of late. :D
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PWNED yet again. You really need to stop doing this to yourself. You may be the biggest moron on here as of late. :D
Says the guy that posted $100 games and a $500+ PS4 as the topic header.
You're too easy.
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Says the guy that posted $100 games and a $500+ PS4.
You're too easy.
Again, that was preliminary information which was featured on many website before E3, before any announcement of any prices officially. Why is this so difficult for you to understand. I believe you have a short attention span. I am correct aren`t I?
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Sony won. There will be very few developers stupid enough, or had enough $$ slung at them by MS to make their next games XBONE exclusives. All Sony has to do now is stick to their promise and not go anti-consumer like MS and they win. You are correct, people will go to the system their buddy is playing on. Hence why the PS4 will win. You buy a XBONE you are a tard for no ability of foresight whatsoever.
Wrong. The publishers are the ones driving this.
And, in case you didn't notice, FF and Kingdom Hearts went cross console today.
And pre orders of the XBone on Amazon are sold out. Not for PS4.
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Not what you said is it?
And they had a year head start which is why they also had a 33% failure rate and it cost Microsoft $1 Billion to rectify
This was by design to grab market share and it worked brilliantly. They knew it would RRoD.
At the end the sales were about the same, but MS had done this in only two of the three markets - US and Euro, while Sony had the benefit of Japan, who will buy it no matter what.
In the end, Sony lost half its market share.
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360 hardly sold at all in japan
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Again, that was preliminary information which was featured on many website before E3, before any announcement of any prices officially. Why is this so difficult for you to understand. I believe you have a short attention span. I am correct aren`t I?
Lol-you truly are a dumb fuck.
The only place I ever heard of $100 games was from your dumbass.
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360 hardly sold at all in japan
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Exactly.
I agree with you about exclusives so far too. I'm surprised by this, given Sony's strength with these in the past. Kingdom Hearts / FF / MGS all cross console.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/gaming/sony-reveals-ps4-will-cost-399--100-cheaper-than-the-xbox-one-and-with-fewer-restrictions-8653463.html
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Maybe one of you professional gamers can help me out a bit.
I have only ever played (2) games in the Play Station 3. I played them both with my nephew for a few weeks while he was younger.
The games were: Legacy of Kain: Defiance & God of War II. I enjoyed playing both games with him. Particularly, I loved the story-line and especially the MUSIC in Legacy of Kain and then I liked the easy gameplay in God of War II.
Will either the PS4 or new Xbox have games as good as these?
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Maybe one of you professional gamers can help me out a bit.
I have only ever played (2) games in the Play Station 3. I played them both with my nephew for a few weeks while he was younger.
The games were: Legacy of Kain: Defiance & God of War II. I enjoyed playing both games with him. Particularly, I loved the story-line and especially the MUSIC in Legacy of Kain and then I liked the easy gameplay in God of War II.
Will either the PS4 or new Xbox have games as good as these?
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God of War is a Sony exclusive and is a fantastic series. In fact, the original 2 were remastered and still hold up well. I recommend playing them all. Both new consoles will have some fantastic games.
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Btw: PS4 rules. shitbox sucks....shitbox fans should shut the f*ck up now.
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Btw: PS4 rules. shitbox sucks....shitbox fans should shut the f*ck up now.
Damn, that game looks nice.
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Btw: PS4 rules. shitbox sucks....shitbox fans should shut the f*ck up now.
I didn't think games like that were possible..
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Btw: PS4 rules. shitbox sucks....shitbox fans should shut the f*ck up now.
The Division is cross console, fanboi.
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The Division is cross console, fanboi.
I didn't say it was exclusive to PS4. ;)
I said this: shitbox sucks ;D
This one is exclusive.
You must be an shitbox fan.
check this out.
PlayStation 4 Wins Flawless Victory.... FATALITY !!!!!! 3 punch knockout ;D
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You must be an shitbox fan.
I'll own both, fanboi.
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This was by design to grab market share and it worked brilliantly. They knew it would RRoD.
At the end the sales were about the same, but MS had done this in only two of the three markets - US and Euro, while Sony had the benefit of Japan, who will buy it no matter what.
In the end, Sony lost half its market share.
Yeah it worked brilliantly until the complaints came in , which at first they denied , until they had 1/3rd of the systems fail and they were forced to admit the obvious and pay over $1 billion dollars not so brilliant that all the profits you made you have to give back
Sony finally got someone who could give them a run for their money however from the looks of it Microsoft might be losing a lot of people just based on the used game issues , every Xbox owner I talked to said they wouldn't buy another based on that , never mind the extra $100
I think most PS3 owers will buy a PS4 , but I think a lot of Microsoft people may jump ship like Sony owners did , the only real advantage Xbox has is Live and Sony is catching up with that and it's for free
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i'm talking about the sales when both were on the market in 2006, 360 sold much better and to this day still outsells the ps3 in the US, think the 360 has won every month the last 3 years or so, and the wii was the console that was outselling it the other months not ps3
not sure why this is an issue with you but you always did try to argue about nothing
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There is no argument , you just need to clarify what you mean. And Xbox isn't outselling PS3 if they both sold the same amount of consoles
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only a "gamer" could post something so stupid
As if being a "gamer" disqualifies me from having a fairly valid opinion on the matter? Especially considering that opinion is within the genre I like to spend a lot of my free time and money. If you don't think MS is going to fail, and fail hard, with their anti-consumerist mantra than you are either A) rabid unyielding fanboy B) invested in the company and shilling C) absolutely clueless/retarded. Considering this is GetBig, I think most people here can figure out what option we are probably dealing with.
To give another example how much MS is actively trying to screw the consumer, MS's Phil Spencer said, and this is paraphrased, "if you can't get online for the XBONE's online requirement, get a 360".
Yeah....
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Yeah it worked brilliantly until the complaints came in , which at first they denied , until they had 1/3rd of the systems fail and they were forced to admit the obvious and pay over $1 billion dollars not so brilliant that all the profits you made you have to give back
Sony finally got someone who could give them a run for their money however from the looks of it Microsoft might be losing a lot of people just based on the used game issues , every Xbox owner I talked to said they wouldn't buy another based on that , never mind the extra $100
I think most PS3 owers will buy a PS4 , but I think a lot of Microsoft people may jump ship like Sony owners did , the only real advantage Xbox has is Live and Sony is catching up with that and it's for free
It doesn't matter - they grabbed market share equal to a console that owned 60% of the market on the prior generation. That's worth much, much more than a what they paid out in damages. It's just math, and it worked.
Sony's network on the PS4 is not free, either. And they've already backtracked on the DRM issue.
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......Sony's network on the PS4 is not free, either. And they've already backtracked on the DRM issue.
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This is true. Although it won't prevent me from getting both as well.
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There is no argument , you just need to clarify what you mean. And Xbox isn't outselling PS3 if they both sold the same amount of consoles
you're the only one that didn't understand
how many times does it have to be mentioned it is outselling ps3 in the US and doesn't sell at all in japan, a country where everybody plays video games?
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To give another example how much MS is actively trying to screw the consumer, MS's Phil Spencer said, and this is paraphrased, "if you can't get online for the XBONE's online requirement, get a 360".
Yeah....
No way. Did he really say that?
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Yeah it worked brilliantly until the complaints came in , which at first they denied , until they had 1/3rd of the systems fail and they were forced to admit the obvious and pay over $1 billion dollars not so brilliant that all the profits you made you have to give back
Sony finally got someone who could give them a run for their money however from the looks of it Microsoft might be losing a lot of people just based on the used game issues , every Xbox owner I talked to said they wouldn't buy another based on that , never mind the extra $100
I think most PS3 owers will buy a PS4 , but I think a lot of Microsoft people may jump ship like Sony owners did , the only real advantage Xbox has is Live and Sony is catching up with that and it's for free
if people have to choose one console this fall, i don't see why they would choose xbox unless they have zero interest in the announced PS4 exclusives
i've always been a sony guy and i have both consoles, i'll get ps4 this holiday and xbox one after $100 price drop which will make it the same as PS4
online is no longer free on PS4 you have to be a playstation plus member which is 50 bucks per year, i've been a member for about 2 years because all the free games you get so no big deal in my eyes
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that does look pretty bad ass
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Don't care - will still buy Xbox One (Yes I'm a fan boy!)
I can't give this up:
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Move over halo. ;)
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Move over halo. ;)
I watched that gameplay - it certainly feels like Halo..... but its not ;D Will play!
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What I will DEFINITELY be getting!!
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In response to Microsoft's sharing policy... Hahahahha ;D
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PS4 - Greatness Awaits
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In response to Microsoft's sharing policy... Hahahahha ;D
Lol!!! Sony is going to rape Microsoft.
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Wrong. The publishers are the ones driving this.
And, in case you didn't notice, FF and Kingdom Hearts went cross console today.
And pre orders of the XBone on Amazon are sold out. Not for PS4.
Agree Grape-
here is a little story- I was out to dinner last Saturday (live in Seattle) and there was a group of older adults (about 10-12 in the party) I overheard them talking about the new xbox, and how Microsoft was genius about implementing the whole tv thing with the Blu-ray player and the skyping, Kinect gestures, and the Siri-like voice activation, as well as being a video game console. I joined there conversation, and the whole party were talking about it with an excitement like Elvis Presley was in the building.
It is interesting how Microsoft is really trying to cater to the mainstream population whom get the new ipads for $499 even though there are better tablets out there, Microsoft much like Apple, is really trying to solidify themselves as the must have gadget for not just the gamers, but the casuals, the tech-savy, and ones whom buy name-brands just for the sake of. Moreover, the only real people whom are mad about the new Xbox, are the hardcore gamers, whom will probably be trying to pirate games anyways.
I look at the industry, and my, has Sony just been getting hammered. They used to be the Apple of the east, Now there TV's barely sell, there laptops and tablets are forgettable, as well as there movie's they produced, c'mon After Earth with Will Smith's son? Did anyone see that $140 million bomb? Now there most lucrative business is selling insurance?! The Playstation brand must succeed in this generation, and not just get by like the PS3 did, but be the gold standard like they were more than 10+ years ago.
People can make all the excuses about the Xbox 360 being out a year ahead, but Sony was so dominant, it was unheard of to even challenge them. It was like when the industry thought they (Sony) were stupid to go launch a system against NEC, SEGA, and at the time the unstoppable Mario at Nintendo. But, who would of known, the Playstation became the premier choice for gamers , and took Nintendo from its spot and put Sega out of business, even though they did everything right with Dreamcast, which came out earlier than the PS2, but Sony just annihilated Sega, when it was released.
Microsoft did the same thing to Sony-caught them slipping, and took advantage of it, and bested them in America and also other parts of the world, to become a premier gaming brand as well. Now they open the E3 show with a jaw-dropping Metal Gear Solid 5, which was always known as a Sony exclusive! Will Microsoft's plan of going after the casual audience of the tv watcher, social media user, and brand buyer work out?
I'm guessing probably, and if it all works out, people usually buy the device that most of there friends socialize the most with, so I could see the xbox one attracting a whole different crowd than before. They keep talking about how you can constantly stay connected with your phone or smart-glass enabled device, and this is a dream for the person whom is waiting for the next episode of "Scandal" and be able to get the info on there phone, as well as stream it to there friends, while on Skype and talking about meeting online to play Battlefield 4 later on in the day.
Again the only people upset are the hardcore gamers, but it seems if Microsoft can win over the casual population, much like Apple does, the hardcore gamer, will eventually succumb and by an xbox one. How Sony plays there hand then, if that is how it plays out will be very interesting, since they created more of a gaming machine, instead of a all-in-one machine.
I'm pretty excited and will get both systems. Should be a great generation, that won't just include gaming but a connectivity with other users/players that will be a really cool experience, or just a bad dream, either way I am awaiting Witcher 3!
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it sold much better in the beginning and is still outselling the ps3, especially in the US
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Not accurate at all.
The PS3 has outsold the Xbox.
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you're the only one that didn't understand
how many times does it have to be mentioned it is outselling ps3 in the US and doesn't sell at all in japan, a country where everybody plays video games?
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No you didn't.
If so, you wouldn't have used the word "especially"... You are implying with that one word that it is doing better all over and MORE SO in the US.
it sold much better in the beginning and is still outselling the ps3, especially in the US
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As if being a "gamer" disqualifies me from having a fairly valid opinion on the matter? Especially considering that opinion is within the genre I like to spend a lot of my free time and money. If you don't think MS is going to fail, and fail hard, with their anti-consumerist mantra than you are either A) rabid unyielding fanboy B) invested in the company and shilling C) absolutely clueless/retarded. Considering this is GetBig, I think most people here can figure out what option we are probably dealing with.
To give another example how much MS is actively trying to screw the consumer, MS's Phil Spencer said, and this is paraphrased, "if you can't get online for the XBONE's online requirement, get a 360".
Yeah....
yes, it pretty much does. being a gamer, means, in 99.999999% of cases, you are a dumbfuck. MS is "anti-consumerist", LOL. in the real world, not the fantasy one you dwell in, this "anti-consumerist mantra" means fuck all. the average consumer has no clue about these "anit-consumerist" practices, doesn't care, and isn't a fucking broke dumbass crying about it on message boards.
if you really think this is SUCH a big deal, consider what happened last generation:
RROD
YLOD
Stolen credit card info
Nintendo releasing a horrendously underpowered piece of shit
"$599 US DOLLARS"
PS3/360 backwards compatibility fuckups left and right
MS region locking
etc. etc. etc.
none of these "outrages" made a difference, "ended" anyone, or allowed one side to "win". the bottom line is, xbox one and ps4 are going to be very competitive with each other, based on everything we've seen so far. i'd bet my life on it.
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Just got my daughter the PS3 and now I have to get her the PS4
Try a book instead, you pinata loving bastard.
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Just got my daughter the PS3 and now I have to get her the PS4
Good Steve! PS4 is the way to go! Gotta love them Pinatas!
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If none of my old games are going to work for Xbox One there absolutely no poing in going with Microsoft.
This is stupid, I need two consoles to play my games either way now, thank you Microsoft. Wish I could get something else for PC too.
Why don't Sony make an OS for PCs?
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I already pre-ordered my PS4. ;D
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you're the only one that didn't understand
how many times does it have to be mentioned it is outselling ps3 in the US and doesn't sell at all in japan, a country where everybody plays video games?
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No I'm the only one ( up until that point ) who called you on your bullshit claim.
ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
This is your original claim which is flat out wrong, Both sold roughly the same amount of consoles ( 77 million ) and then you looked silly and were forced to amend your statement that it sold better in the beginning ::) with a year head start.
And again what the fuck does that mean? ??? who cares if it sold better in the beginning? ( and how would you know? do you have a year-to-year breakdown in sales comparing the two? ) all that matters did they sell more in the end? and we already know that answer. If anything Sony sold more in less time and didn't have to pay out over $1 Billion dollars to fix their systems so who really ' won ' ?
And this has nothing to do with me looking for an argument , it has to do with calling you on your bullshit , you back peddling and being butt hurt you got called on your original bullshit claim.
ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
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It doesn't matter - they grabbed market share equal to a console that owned 60% of the market on the prior generation. That's worth much, much more than a what they paid out in damages. It's just math, and it worked.
Sony's network on the PS4 is not free, either. And they've already backtracked on the DRM issue.
Losing a billion dollars doesn't matter? What planet do you live on where making a billion dollars and then paying it back doesn't matter? Tell that to the share holders lol see how well that goes over
Mind you Xbox lost money with the 360 because like the PS3 it was initially selling at a loss and compared to the original Xbox they had a cumulative loss of over $4 billion dollars on top of the $1 billion they paid out in red ring failures which according to a recent survey is 54% compared to PS3's 10.6% failure rate.
If anything Sony sold just as many units in shorter time for more money and even though PSN was hacked it cost tens of millions as opposed to billions for Microsoft. So who really won?
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Losing a billion dollars doesn't matter? What planet do you live on where making a billion dollars and then paying it back doesn't matter? Tell that to the share holders lol see how well that goes over
Mind you Xbox lost money with the 360 because like the PS3 it was initially selling at a loss and compared to the original Xbox they had a cumulative loss of over $4 billion dollars on top of the $1 billion they paid out in red ring failures which according to a recent survey is 54% compared to PS3's 10.6% failure rate.
If anything Sony sold just as many units in shorter time for more money and even though PSN was hacked it cost tens of millions as opposed to billions for Microsoft. So who really won?
I've been surprised by your responses here since I've found almost all of your posts to be well thought out and logical, but you seem to be ignoring significant context around sales numbers on this one.
This is not the real math but directionally correct: paying a billion in damages does not matter if you make 3 billion additional because of it. For some reason, you ignore this concept, and focus only on the $ related to console sales. Sony had a 60% market share and dominated the prior generation. Microsoft launched early, knowing the heat sync issues, to be able to grab more share, equaling Sony with ~30% on the current one. More share = more licensing $, more game $, more peripheral $....etc. It was a calculated risk that enabled MS to equal in console sales what had been a whitewash in the previous generation.
If anything Sony sold just as many units in shorter time for more money and even though PSN was hacked it cost tens of millions as opposed to billions for Microsoft. So who really won?
You're ignoring context here and just looking at total sales. Sony sold as many units. Yes. Got it. But they did it with the ability to sell in all three major VG markets (US/Euro/Japan), while MS had the benefit of only two. Plus, when you consider the embedded user base Sony had to start with, it's even worse. Sony had such an advantage from the start, being equal in sales is a failure, and not what they planned.
Don't take my word for it. Read the press releases from Sony, look at their financials, stock prices etc....read the industry news..forecasts, expectation...it's all there. PS3 was not good for Sony. Akeelsolid above has a great post about this above.
I don't hate Sony. I want them to succeed so I have more great games to play.
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yes, it pretty much does. being a gamer, means, in 99.999999% of cases, you are a dumbfuck. MS is "anti-consumerist", LOL. in the real world, not the fantasy one you dwell in, this "anti-consumerist mantra" means fuck all. the average consumer has no clue about these "anit-consumerist" practices, doesn't care, and isn't a fucking broke dumbass crying about it on message boards.
if you really think this is SUCH a big deal, consider what happened last generation:
RROD
YLOD
Stolen credit card info
Nintendo releasing a horrendously underpowered piece of shit
"$599 US DOLLARS"
PS3/360 backwards compatibility fuckups left and right
MS region locking
etc. etc. etc.
none of these "outrages" made a difference, "ended" anyone, or allowed one side to "win". the bottom line is, xbox one and ps4 are going to be very competitive with each other, based on everything we've seen so far. i'd bet my life on it.
Here it is people. Take a hard look at it and soak it in. This is what a display of sub-par intelligence looks like, and also your average poo-slinging GetBig post.
I'd actually be curious to your argument as to why you consider gamers "dumb fucks" as opposed to people who have other hobbies like say...watching football. Gamers are actually interacting with their means of entertainment, as opposed to...let's throw out a percentage like it's a fact...99.9% of football watchers just sit on their couches and observe others in their modern Colosseum wreck each other for their entertainment. People "waste" their money on golf. Others "waste" it on video collections or cars.
The point is, people of all walks will choose how to spend their time/money regardless of intelligence level or success.
Also, Sony is already attempting to fix that price snafu of last generation. I was REAL hesitant for the PS4, but so far it looks like Sony got their junk slammed enough in the door jam and is getting their head back on straight and wants to go back to the PS2 era of making gamers happy.
The Wii was not a piece of shit. Great system that was perfect for what Nintendo wanted. And this is coming from someone who didn't even buy one, I'm just not a fool enough that isn't able to recognize what it is.
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This is coming from an Xbox fan-king (yes I am keeping my character) I will gladly buy a Playstation 4. Fuck Xbox. Microsoft executives are weeping right now. They have already lost.
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I never knew the average age of getbiggers was 11. All the excitement over video games ::)
I have the PS3 and never played a game on it, but I do use it as a music player, photo viewer and watch blue rays on it, as most adults should.
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When you get older maybe you'll find a way to take care of your priorities so you'll be able to find time to play a game or two.
And by then, maybe you might be able to afford a ipod to play music on and get a real stand alone blu-ray player like most adults do.
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Nice gfx, but humans still look like a stupid wannabe vr project. Racing games seem to benefit most from the voodoo.
Sony is dying and I'm curious if the pz4 will be able to save them.
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I never knew the average age of getbiggers was 11. All the excitement over video games ::)
I have the PS3 and never played a game on it, but I do use it as a music player, photo viewer and watch blue rays on it, as most adults should.
Waste of money.............outed.
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Meh, I'll buy them both but the pc still will end up with more AAA games than both systems combined, just like it did this gen, and 90% of the games on both systems will come to the pc, just like this gen, and will play at higher frame rates and higher resolution, just like this gen, and will be cheaper, just like this gen.
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I never knew the average age of getbiggers was 11. All the excitement over video games ::)
I have the PS3 and never played a game on it, but I do use it as a music player, photo viewer and watch blue rays on it, as most adults should.
You do realise the gaming industry is bigger than the movie and music industry combined right?This isn't 1990 anymore.
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When you get older maybe you'll find a way to take care of your priorities so you'll be able to find time to play a game or two.
And by then, maybe you might be able to afford a ipod to play music on and get a real stand alone blu-ray player like most adults do.
Yeah, because I carry my ps3 with me to listen to music ::) Why get a stand alone blu ray, when the PS3 gets software updates to allow things like 3D movies to play where other players make you buy a new one. Fucking idiot.
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The King of Getbig approves the Playstation 4. Thread over.
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Playstation 4 Approved
Thread can now be closed.
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I never knew the average age of getbiggers was 11. All the excitement over video games ::)
I have the PS3 and never played a game on it, but I do use it as a music player, photo viewer and watch blue rays on it, as most adults should.
What's the difference between watching blu-ray entertainment and being involved in the entertainment experience?
2 hours being unproductive is still 2 hours being unproductive.
Instead of giving your money to Hollywood, you're giving it to the gaming industry.
These types of comments make zero sense.
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You do realise the gaming industry is bigger than the movie and music industry combined right?This isn't 1990 anymore.
Definitely bigger than the movie business.
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Vidyer games
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Definitely bigger than the movie business.
And music too
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And music too
I have not seen those numbers.
We always discuss the Hollywood box office, we do not discuss the music industry in the conversation around the office.
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Exactly ;D. Fuck Bill Gates.
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Sony's already backtracked on the DRM.
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Sony's already backtracked on the DRM.
They haven't... They have stated that you can't stop other publishers from requesting it.
I think the whole industry is getting stupid about it... They aren't losing fucking money!
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They haven't... They have stated that you can't stop other publishers from requesting it.
I think the whole industry is getting stupid about it... They aren't losing fucking money!
They backtracked in the sense that they gave the impression in the press conference that there would be NO DRM whatsover on the console. Since then, they've clarified that third party producers can enforce it, but no Sony produced games will have, correct?
Agreed that they're not losing money, but I can't say it wasn't expected.
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They backtracked in the sense that they gave the impression in the press conference that there would be NO DRM whatsover on the console. Since then, they've clarified that third party producers can enforce it, but no Sony produced games will have, correct?
Agreed that they're not losing money, but I can't say it wasn't expected.
Blu-Ray inherently has DRM, so there's literally nothing you can do about it from that sense.
It's a spec of the Blu-Ray foundation or something of that notion.
I do understand what you are saying, but hell... the PS3 has DRM functions in it.
I agree, it's a bad thing.
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I would take over Xbox operations for half of the pay. Only a complete retard would implement such stupidity.
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Yeah, because I carry my ps3 with me to listen to music ::) Why get a stand alone blu ray, when the PS3 gets software updates to allow things like 3D movies to play where other players make you buy a new one. Fucking idiot.
Why are you still cryn'?
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Feel free to check out the pictures I'm posting of E3.
Ask any questions you like and if I talked to someone or have info, I'll answer.
I might even head back tomorrow for a round 2.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=482045.0
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No you didn't.
If so, you wouldn't have used the word "especially"... You are implying with that one word that it is doing better all over and MORE SO in the US.
well things must have changed a lot over the last year
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/microsoft-xbox-now-is-the-top-selling-console-worldwide/
and yes 360 doing much better in the US, and don't talk to me about "accuracy" when you work in the industry yet didn't think the PS4 was coming out this year
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well things must have changed a lot over the last year
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/04/microsoft-xbox-now-is-the-top-selling-console-worldwide/
and yes 360 doing much better in the US, and don't talk to me about "accuracy" when you work in the industry yet didn't think the PS4 was coming out this year
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I didn't... Not when asked.
Then we got a bunch of Development kits and I knew better but I was under a Non-Disclosure agreement so I couldn't say what I knew when I knew it.
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No I'm the only one ( up until that point ) who called you on your bullshit claim.
ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
This is your original claim which is flat out wrong, Both sold roughly the same amount of consoles ( 77 million ) and then you looked silly and were forced to amend your statement that it sold better in the beginning ::) with a year head start.
And again what the fuck does that mean? ??? who cares if it sold better in the beginning? ( and how would you know? do you have a year-to-year breakdown in sales comparing the two? ) all that matters did they sell more in the end? and we already know that answer. If anything Sony sold more in less time and didn't have to pay out over $1 Billion dollars to fix their systems so who really ' won ' ?
And this has nothing to do with me looking for an argument , it has to do with calling you on your bullshit , you back peddling and being butt hurt you got called on your original bullshit claim.
ps4 will win for the same reason 360 sold better than the ps3, it's $100 cheaper
360 was greatly outselling ps3 when they were new because of the price and is still outselling it in the US, how is that wrong? show me a month where ps3 outsold 360 in the US within the last 7 years
butt hurt? you're the one flipping out over this, even supposedly "laughing your ass off" which means you are taking it way too seriously, you always did project your own feelings on to others
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I didn't... Not when asked.
Then we got a bunch of Development kits and I knew better but I was under a Non-Disclosure agreement so I couldn't say what I knew when I knew it.
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i specifically remember you replying to one of my posts saying the ps4 will NOT come out in 2013
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i specifically remember you replying to one of my posts saying the ps4 will NOT come out in 2013
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I said that based on the information available at the time... As I said... when I DID find out... I had been placed under an NDA and couldn't comment any longer.
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I said that based on the information available at the time... As I said... when I DID find out... I had been placed under an NDA and couldn't comment any longer.
why were you allowed to say the new xbox was being released?
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why were you allowed to say the new xbox was being released?
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EA had kits in hand, but not in my location, so I wasn't under an NDA at the time. Once I was personally sent the NDA notification, I could no longer discuss anything relating to either.
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PS4 looking awesome 8)
XBOX is in some serious trouble....
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PS4 looking awesome 8)
XBOX is in some serious trouble....
You're posts are short and sweet. Care to become one of the king's letter writers?
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I'd actually be curious to your argument as to why you consider gamers "dumb fucks" as opposed to people who have other hobbies like say...watching football.
I didn't mention any such "as opposed" qualification, so, there you go, another example of hallucination from the mind of a gamer. I've been playing videogames practically since I was a toddler, and whenever I come to any congregation of gamers, whether it's neogaf/penny-arcade/[insert game forum here], gamespot/ign/[insert publication here]'s comments section, the local gamestop etc. the sheer amount of stupidity parroted from these shortsighted mongrels is unmissable, unless one also happens to be afflicted with gamer-myopia. I don't know what it is, maybe an obsession with living in fantasy worlds, pressing buttons in front of a screen for hours on end every day, generally being too socially inept, poor, lazy, and stupid to experience much of anything outside their TV room?
But how else can you explain statements like:
The Wii was not a piece of shit. Great system that was perfect for what Nintendo wanted. And this is coming from someone who didn't even buy one, I'm just not a fool enough that isn't able to recognize what it is.
The Wii had, what, maybe five games worth playing? The much vaunted "motion control" was horrendous, a complete dead-end and anti-immersive... notice how still, after nearly a decade of wii and kinect, no one has managed to make a SINGLE 1:1-style game worth playing. Not even one.
And there's no excuse for being horrendously underpowered. Anyone should be able to see this as a fatal flaw -- unfortunately, most gamers mindlessly mouth the "gameplay over graphics" mantra, which is both mostly nonsensical or, given any sensible definitions of the terms "gameplay" and "graphics" laughably false. No one can even stomach pathetic attempts at realism on the wii, having seen what the 360 and ps3 are capable of, so any developer who wanted to be taken the slightest bit seriously had to, ironically, use heavily-stylized cartoony graphics instead... and who wants to play with cartoons all day? Well, not the vast majority of developers who keep pushing for more realistic rendering techniques, not the vast majority of gamers who keep thirsting for more and more detail in their realistic renderings, and certainly not me (i.e. someone not stupid enough to be impressed by sales figures and then claim the wii was a "great system" because it was what "nintendo wanted").
Here's a word gamers hate: "gimmick". Well, Nintendo's "success" with the Wii involved millions and millions of gimmick SALES! Sales on the basis of a gimmick, to gimmick-buyers. The much vaunted "casual" demographic was just that, a bunch of know-nothings looking for a little stimulation, who picked up their wii, played wii sports for all of 30 minutes, and threw it in the closet (or used it, hilariously enough, to stream netflix in 480p). I'm sure Nintendo wanted nothing more than this, and nothing more than a Wiiu ghost town caused by desertion, en masse of these "nongamers".
The ONLY way forward in gaming hardware is more power, something Nintendo will be forced to recognize sooner or later.
PS, you utterly failed to address the main point of my previous post, this beatdown is merely ancillary!
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I didn't mention any such "as opposed" qualification, so, there you go, another example of hallucination from the mind of a gamer. I've been playing videogames practically since I was a toddler, and whenever I come to any congregation of gamers, whether it's neogaf/penny-arcade/[insert game forum here], gamespot/ign/[insert publication here]'s comments section, the local gamestop etc. the sheer amount of stupidity parroted from these shortsighted mongrels is unmissable, unless one also happens to be afflicted with gamer-myopia. I don't know what it is, maybe an obsession with living in fantasy worlds, pressing buttons in front of a screen for hours on end every day, generally being too socially inept, poor, lazy, and stupid to experience much of anything outside their TV room?
But how else can you explain statements like:
The Wii had, what, maybe five games worth playing? The much vaunted "motion control" was horrendous, a complete dead-end and anti-immersive... notice how still, after nearly a decade of wii and kinect, no one has managed to make a SINGLE 1:1-style game worth playing. Not even one.
And there's no excuse for being horrendously underpowered. Anyone should be able to see this as a fatal flaw -- unfortunately, most gamers mindlessly mouth the "gameplay over graphics" mantra, which is both mostly nonsensical or, given any sensible definitions of the terms "gameplay" and "graphics" laughably false. No one can even stomach pathetic attempts at realism on the wii, having seen what the 360 and ps3 are capable of, so any developer who wanted to be taken the slightest bit seriously had to, ironically, use heavily-stylized cartoony graphics instead... and who wants to play with cartoons all day? Well, not the vast majority of developers who keep pushing for more realistic rendering techniques, not the vast majority of gamers who keep thirsting for more and more detail in their realistic renderings, and certainly not me (i.e. someone not stupid enough to be impressed by sales figures and then claim the wii was a "great system" because it was what "nintendo wanted").
Here's a word gamers hate: "gimmick". Well, Nintendo's "success" with the Wii involved millions and millions of gimmick SALES! Sales on the basis of a gimmick, to gimmick-buyers. The much vaunted "casual" demographic was just that, a bunch of know-nothings looking for a little stimulation, who picked up their wii, played wii sports for all of 30 minutes, and threw it in the closet (or used it, hilariously enough, to stream netflix in 480p). I'm sure Nintendo wanted nothing more than this, and nothing more than a Wiiu ghost town caused by desertion, en masse of these "nongamers".
The ONLY way forward in gaming hardware is more power, something Nintendo will be forced to recognize sooner or later.
PS, you utterly failed to address the main point of my previous post, this beatdown is merely ancillary!
oh, ok
I'll come back to this on my next break, but for someone as much as a veteran in gaming as you claim to be, I'm a bit shocked you aren't seeing the writing on the wall.
Back from break. I take it back. You clearly think you are right and possibly couldn't be wrong based on your previous posting history. Glad I wasted my time.
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On that note. Anyone here want to get their ass smack'd down in NBA2k or FightNight?
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On that note. Anyone here want to get their ass smack'd down in NBA2k or FightNight?
Im InflamedArc8333 i think i destroyed you on fight night havent played in days, im too good with my 5'10 guy
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Xbox or PS3? I'm Xboxn' it right now.
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This will be insane.
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This will be insane.
I was in the live demo at the press release. That is a gorgeous map.
I actually had some creative input in that trailer also... I worked on the gameplay capture and worked with the Video Director on it during post production.
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I love the Battlefield franchise. I don't even mess w/ Call of Duty.
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I love the Battlefield franchise. I don't even mess w/ Call of Duty.
Thisssssssssss
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These made me laugh.
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These made me laugh.
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It's early, non-caffeinated, so I had to wonder for a sec why this was funny. When it hit me, I fell out of my chair.
By the way, PS+ is such a good deal it's sort of scary. It really makes you go "what the hell is the catch?". I paid for a year of PS+ (like...50-60 bucks?) and got 14 games for free. A couple of those were Deus Ex, Vanquish, Uncharted 3, XCOM for the triple A titles. Then there are a bunch of VITA games on there for free. Once you "purchase" them, you can download/delete as much as you want while your PS+ account is active.
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The Xbox One requirements don't affect me. I'm always connected and rarely trade or buy used games.
It's the fact that I'm "required" to do so that pisses me off. That and the fact that MS has never explained why this benefits the consumer.
I currently have both systems and I choose the Xbox version of cross-plantform games. However, this time around I will still get both systems but my support will lean towards the PS4 until MS shows me why I shouldn't.
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The Xbox One requirements don't affect me. I'm always connected and rarely trade or buy used games.
It's the fact that I'm "required" to do so that pisses me off. That and the fact that MS has never explained why this benefits the consumer.
I currently have both systems and I choose the Xbox version of cross-plantform games. However, this time around I will still get both systems but my support will lean towards the PS4 until MS shows me why I shouldn't.
Boom. Exactly.
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The Xbox One requirements don't affect me. I'm always connected and rarely trade or buy used games.
It's the fact that I'm "required" to do so that pisses me off. That and the fact that MS has never explained why this benefits the consumer.
I currently have both systems and I choose the Xbox version of cross-plantform games. However, this time around I will still get both systems but my support will lean towards the PS4 until MS shows me why I shouldn't.
Game publishers / developers get more money, and can therefore continue making games, which you, the consumer, can then buy and play.
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They don't lift.
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Game publishers / developers get more money, and can therefore continue making games, which you, the consumer, can then buy and play.
Stuffing the pockets of publishers and developers is merely a byproduct of handcuffing the consumers. Hardly a benefit in my opinion.
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By the way. The Last of Us is coming out tomorrow for the PS3. Looks pretty bad ass.
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Game publishers / developers get more money, and can therefore continue making games, which you, the consumer, can then buy and play.
How about instead of relying on bullshit anti-consumer tactics they make a better game so you don't want to re-sale it in the first place?
Nintendo operates on that policy. Seems to be a-ok with them.
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How about instead of relying on bullshit anti-consumer tactics they make a better game so you don't want to re-sale it in the first place?
Nintendo operates on that policy. Seems to be a-ok with them.
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Some motivations for reselling have nothing to do with the quality of the game. Not sure what portion of resellers care about the quality of the game they're dumping.
Anyway, doesn't affect me or anyone I know. I haven't traded in a single game my whole life, nor have I bought a used game within the last five years. Only time I ever buy used is to get out-of-print games I'm interested in. And these days, with Amazon and digital distribution, that means... basically never. Two or three years ago I was buying playstation ONE games new off Amazon :o
Used games, lol. Can you imagine people still talking about this 5 years deep in the "next generation"?
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Some motivations for reselling have nothing to do with the quality of the game. Not sure what portion of resellers care about the quality of the game they're dumping.
Anyway, doesn't affect me or anyone I know. I haven't traded in a single game my whole life, nor have I bought a used game within the last five years. Only time I ever buy used is to get out-of-print games I'm interested in. And these days, with Amazon and digital distribution, that means... basically never. Two or three years ago I was buying playstation ONE games new off Amazon :o
Used games, lol. Can you imagine people still talking about this 5 years deep in the "next generation"?
you must have an extensive collection if you never trade in games and still buy psone games
anyways it was mentioned by some of you that ps3 has outsold 360, not according to this link, unless it's counting the consoles that are still on store shelves
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngaudiosi/2013/06/13/despite-a-strong-e3-for-playstation-4-analysts-expect-microsoft-and-sony-to-have-a-close-race/?partner=yahootix
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Both the PS4 and the XBone are going to increase their market share at the expense of Nintendo. Anyone proclaiming either has "lost" 5 months before launch doesn't comprehend what's happening here.
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Both the PS4 and the XBone are going to increase their market share at the expense of Nintendo. Anyone proclaiming either has "lost" 5 months before launch doesn't comprehend what's happening here.
Yep... "Microsoft has lost". Geez, I'm sure the largest software company on the face of the earth is going to let their games division crash and burn over an issue so startlingly important, a problem so untractable... ::)
Just wait until we're a year in and a couple big exclusives have been unveiled. That'll be the end of "used games" / "always online".
And @ earl, yeah I guess I have a lot of games sitting around. Thinking about just posting on craigslist and letting them all go to the first guy who wants to haul them off. I used to really prize them, but the pack-rat mentality has thankfully left me for good.
I really don't understand why people care about used games anyway... unless you're poor, I guess? After a year or two, pretty much every game drops down to $20 or below anyway. And if $60 is really worth that much to someone, maybe they should, uh, stop playing so many videogames and go back to school, try to get a better job? I don't know, something? The outrage over this would boggle my mind, if it weren't just another note in the endless litany of petty gamer bitching.
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I really don't understand why people care about used games anyway... unless you're poor, I guess? After a year or two, pretty much every game drops down to $20 or below anyway. And if $60 is really worth that much to someone, maybe they should, uh, stop playing so many videogames and go back to school, try to get a better job? I don't know, something? The outrage over this would boggle my mind, if it weren't just another note in the endless litany of petty gamer bitching.
Lol, whatta fag.
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Yep... "Microsoft has lost". Geez, I'm sure the largest software company on the face of the earth is going to let their games division crash and burn over an issue so startlingly important, a problem so untractable... ::)
Just wait until we're a year in and a couple big exclusives have been unveiled. That'll be the end of "used games" / "always online".
And @ earl, yeah I guess I have a lot of games sitting around. Thinking about just posting on craigslist and letting them all go to the first guy who wants to haul them off. I used to really prize them, but the pack-rat mentality has thankfully left me for good.
I really don't understand why people care about used games anyway... unless you're poor, I guess? After a year or two, pretty much every game drops down to $20 or below anyway. And if $60 is really worth that much to someone, maybe they should, uh, stop playing so many videogames and go back to school, try to get a better job? I don't know, something? The outrage over this would boggle my mind, if it weren't just another note in the endless litany of petty gamer bitching.
Some people do...but I believe they are in extreme minority. Even on the pc forums I browse, resale of used games isn't exactly high volume. I think the backlash at XBox1 is the sum of all the new "features" MS is trying to push with it.
-Connect every day to MS for you to play games
- $100 more for what reason?
- slower then ps4 specs
- camera thingy
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Yep... "Microsoft has lost". Geez, I'm sure the largest software company on the face of the earth is going to let their games division crash and burn over an issue so startlingly important, a problem so untractable... ::)
Just wait until we're a year in and a couple big exclusives have been unveiled. That'll be the end of "used games" / "always online".
And @ earl, yeah I guess I have a lot of games sitting around. Thinking about just posting on craigslist and letting them all go to the first guy who wants to haul them off. I used to really prize them, but the pack-rat mentality has thankfully left me for good.
I really don't understand why people care about used games anyway... unless you're poor, I guess? After a year or two, pretty much every game drops down to $20 or below anyway. And if $60 is really worth that much to someone, maybe they should, uh, stop playing so many videogames and go back to school, try to get a better job? I don't know, something? The outrage over this would boggle my mind, if it weren't just another note in the endless litany of petty gamer bitching.
That's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Why would you choose something like this over PS4? You wouldn't
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Some motivations for reselling have nothing to do with the quality of the game. Not sure what portion of resellers care about the quality of the game they're dumping.
Anyway, doesn't affect me or anyone I know. I haven't traded in a single game my whole life, nor have I bought a used game within the last five years. Only time I ever buy used is to get out-of-print games I'm interested in. And these days, with Amazon and digital distribution, that means... basically never. Two or three years ago I was buying playstation ONE games new off Amazon :o
Used games, lol. Can you imagine people still talking about this 5 years deep in the "next generation"?
I don't trade in my games either. I'm OCD like that. Doesn't change the fact that the practice they are salivating to enforce is disgusting as hell. People can re-sale cars. People can re-sale clothes. Make the argument that games don't change if they sell them used? I make the point you can re-sale movies/music without any of this bull crap. Just because it doesn't affect you, precious little you, all that matters you, doesn't mean there isn't a bigger picture going on. You are PERFRECTLY FINE giving away rights. What next? Look ahead man. Don't just look at the now.
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That's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Why would you choose something like this over PS4? You wouldn't
Hmmm.....because:
1. I am an adult and buy my own games and keep them. So I couldn't give a shit about lending/selling/renting or used games.
2. My Xbox is already always connected to the internet.
3. My friends who are all gamers and own every console that comes out, all use Live for multiplayer
4. Titanfall is going to be insane
5. DRM - why do I care? Didn't do anything bad for the iPod.
Sony's getting lauded despite not really showing anything new or groundbreaking.
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titanfall does look good
metal gear is still looks the best graphics
we should be getting photo realism now
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titanfall does look good
metal gear is still looks the best graphics
we should be getting photo realism now
I believe Titanfall is also slated for a PC release? If so then there goes that.
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I believe Titanfall is also slated for a PC release? If so then there goes that.
What does that mean? It's going to be huge on the Xbox. It will probably be bigger than Destiny, which is on both consoles.
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Hmmm.....because:
1. I am an adult and buy my own games and keep them. So I couldn't give a shit about lending/selling/renting or used games.
2. My Xbox is already always connected to the internet.
3. My friends who are all gamers and own every console that comes out, all use Live for multiplayer
4. Titanfall is going to be insane
5. DRM - why do I care? Didn't do anything bad for the iPod.
Sony's getting lauded despite not really showing anything new or groundbreaking.
You don't care that the camera HAS to stay connected at all times?
You CAN NOT disconnect it... Which means the microphone and camera are ALWAYS on.
The Government would LOVE this.
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You don't care that the camera HAS to stay connected at all times?
You CAN NOT disconnect it... Which means the microphone and camera are ALWAYS on.
The Government would LOVE this.
Truthfully, I'm not thrilled about that part. It's not a dealbreaker, and I assume there will be workarounds.
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Truthfully, I'm not thrilled about that part. It's not a dealbreaker, and I assume there will be workarounds.
To be honest, that one is truly my deal breaker. I'm about my privacy if I want it... No company should be able to circumvent that.
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And the Xbox dashboard is ugly as hell.
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You don't care that the camera HAS to stay connected at all times?
You CAN NOT disconnect it... Which means the microphone and camera are ALWAYS on.
The Government would LOVE this.
use electrical tape over the camera?
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use electrical tape over the camera?
Doesn't turn off the microphone.
I've already thought about the camera portion, but the Mic is right there and you can't do anything about THAT.
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use electrical tape over the camera?
I do this for my lap top web camp. I don't want to get caught spanking.....again
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I used to play video games. Then i got a car and didn't have to hang around the pizza parlor by the Asteroids machine anymore.
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I used to play video games. Then i got a car and didn't have to hang around the pizza parlor by the Asteroids machine anymore.
You just aged yourself, my friend. Worse still, I know what your talking about.
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To be honest, that one is truly my deal breaker. I'm about my privacy if I want it... No company should be able to circumvent that.
I for one WANT the camera to stay on all the time! Everyone should be so lucky to watch BIG ACH playing Xbox naked after a tough work out in the gym!!!
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I for one WANT the camera to stay on all the time! Everyone should be so lucky to watch BIG ACH playing Xbox naked after a tough work out in the gym!!!
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What does that mean? It's going to be huge on the Xbox. It will probably be bigger than Destiny, which is on both consoles.
That's my way of saying that's one game I won't have to feel sorry about being XBONE only, since it's not. Considering how many Xbox die hards are converting already, I am pretty sure this will bring a lot of swing back to PC gaming also. It will most likely be one of the XBONEs killer apps, but it won't save it by any means.
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That's my way of saying that's one game I won't have to feel sorry about being XBONE only, since it's not. Considering how many Xbox die hards are converting already, I am pretty sure this will bring a lot of swing back to PC gaming also. It will most likely be one of the XBONEs killer apps, but it won't save it by any means.
How many Xbox die hards are converting?
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How many Xbox die hards are converting?
When I say "die hards" I'm more so referencing people who had had Xboxes since they were first introduced, and nothing else. And seriously, who has numbers on a statement like that? It is a anecdotal statement, but all the people I know that have only had Xboxes aren't getting a Xbone.
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When I say "die hards" I'm more so referencing people who had had Xboxes since they were first introduced, and nothing else. And seriously, who has numbers on a statement like that? It is a anecdotal statement, but all the people I know that have only had Xboxes aren't getting a Xbone.
My point exactly - you have no idea, so it's silly to proclaim the death of system five months out of its launch.
So they're going to run to PC gaming - the one with DRM and no sharing or used game sales?
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Anyone that buys an zbox under those rules is a fool. I'm going PS4 this time around. It's like Microsoft is intentionally fucking themselves.
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Anyone that buys an zbox under those rules is a fool. I'm going PS4 this time around. It's like Microsoft is intentionally fucking themselves.
So why are they doing it then, if it's so crystal clear to everyone?
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So why are they doing it then, if it's so crystal clear to everyone?
Money would be my guess.
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Money would be my guess.
But everyone's saying it's going sink them......
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But everyone's saying it's going sink them......
There's what they believe people will do and what people will actually do. Sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are not.
We shall see.
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So why are they doing it then, if it's so crystal clear to everyone?
I'm still getting an Xbox one :-)
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There's what they believe people will do and what people will actually do. Sometimes they are the same, sometimes they are not.
We shall see.
I think what will happen is that both the Xbone and PS4 will see growth in market share at Nintendo's expense.
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I think what will happen is that both the Xbone and PS4 will see growth in market share at Nintendo's expense.
Anything is possible. I'm definitely going to get a Wii U just for Mario and shit.
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My Wii U is sitting in the corner all alone next my kinect.
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My Wii U is sitting in the corner all alone next my kinect.
You wanna sell it?
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I'm like you. I'm waiting for the exclusives. I just thought they'd already be out at this point in the Wii's life cycle.
I knew what I was buying-so I'm not complaining just a little curious that Nintendo is taking so long in releasing their flagship titles.
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But everyone's saying it's going sink them......
Microsoft in conjunction with publishers are looking to move toward an all digital distribution model for games. In this model everyone makes more money as a result of tighter control of products.
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Microsoft in conjunction with publishers are looking to move toward an all digital distribution model for games. In this model everyone makes more money as a result of tighter control of products.
Anytime I can eliminate a private seller re-selling something when I'd rather have the ability to sell it new is a win for the publisher and console manufacturer.... If we can get rid of a gamestop and make them come to me for the drug, then it's better and more money goes to me and not someone else.
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Anytime I can eliminate a private seller re-selling something when I'd rather have the ability to sell it new is a win for the publisher and console manufacturer.... If we can get rid of a gamestop and make them come to me for the drug, then it's better and more money goes to me and not someone else.
Exactly. Now everyone is forced to spend sixty dollars if they want to play a new game.
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Grape ape speaking a whole lot of sense in this thread.
I don't trade in my games either. I'm OCD like that. Doesn't change the fact that the practice they are salivating to enforce is disgusting as hell. People can re-sale cars. People can re-sale clothes. Make the argument that games don't change if they sell them used? I make the point you can re-sale movies/music without any of this bull crap. Just because it doesn't affect you, precious little you, all that matters you, doesn't mean there isn't a bigger picture going on. You are PERFRECTLY FINE giving away rights. What next? Look ahead man. Don't just look at the now.
I am looking at the bigger picture. Yes, I'm fine giving away these "rights" and, if I had to guess, I'd say so are the majority of consumers. I'm guessing most people who buy consoles games aren't part of the echo chamber that is internet gaming communities, and feel the same way. I would be surprised if any of my friends, for example, who have 360s even knew about this stuff, with the exception of the one or two other "hardcore gamers" I know... and those two sure as hell don't care (they both have money).
In "the big picture" I see, a couple years down the line, these "rights" have evaporated, and no one cares. They're too busy arguing about which console has the better exclusives, how much better XBL is than PS+, etc. etc. Actually, given recent technology trends, the big question might be, "what do we really need these consoles for, anyway?"
And you mentioned "re-sale [of] movies/music"... really???? I'm pretty sure you can't resell your digital downloads, and who on earth re-sells (or, hell, even buys) disc-based music and movies these days? ???
If you actually have enough money to support your gaming habits, none of this stuff really means much to you.
Anytime I can eliminate a private seller re-selling something when I'd rather have the ability to sell it new is a win for the publisher and console manufacturer.... If we can get rid of a gamestop and make them come to me for the drug, then it's better and more money goes to me and not someone else.
And thank heaven for that... I'd much rather see the publishers and developers get more money so they can keep making fun games for me to play.
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And thank heaven for that... I'd much rather see the publishers and developers get more money so they can keep making fun games for me to play.
Trickle down game-onomics. Your trolling is kind of funny. I guess.
But that hasn't worked for the fans of the Madden franchise. Once EA garnered exclusive NFL rights eliminating competition for the pro football franchise (thus creating a massive amount of money for the game publisher and developer) innovation within the genre halted.
Competition and innovation from 2K Sports has made EA fold a once great basketball franchise in NBA Live because their product simply couldn't measure up to NBA2K's series of BBall. Had EA bought exclusive NBA rights, which it attempted, we would have been stuck w/ versions of NBA Live that were shelved because they were "that bad". Thankfully NBA2K was available and gave consumers a choice.
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Trickle down game-onomics. Your trolling is kind of funny. I guess.
But that hasn't worked for the fans of the Madden franchise. Once EA garnered exclusive NFL rights eliminating competition for the pro football franchise (thus creating a massive amount of money for the game publisher and developer) innovation within the genre halted.
Competition and innovation from 2K Sports has made EA fold a once great basketball franchise in NBA Live because their product simply couldn't measure up to NBA2K's series of BBall. Had EA bought exclusive NBA rights, which it attempted, we would have been stuck w/ versions of NBA Live that were shelved because they were "that bad". Thankfully NBA2K was available and gave consumers a choice.
NBA LIVE 14 is coming this year.
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Doesn't look too promising either.
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Trickle down game-onomics. Your trolling is kind of funny. I guess.
But that hasn't worked for the fans of the Madden franchise. Once EA garnered exclusive NFL rights eliminating competition for the pro football franchise (thus creating a massive amount of money for the game publisher and developer) innovation within the genre halted.
Competition and innovation from 2K Sports has made EA fold a once great basketball franchise in NBA Live because their product simply couldn't measure up to NBA2K's series of BBall. Had EA bought exclusive NBA rights, which it attempted, we would have been stuck w/ versions of NBA Live that were shelved because they were "that bad". Thankfully NBA2K was available and gave consumers a choice.
not even remotely related to the issue at hand? ::)
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not even remotely related to the issue at hand? ::)
Yeah, whatever.
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I'll buy both when the first exclusives I want appear ( forza and uncharted most likely).Already have a games machine running as powerful as the ps4, the e3 watchdogs ps3 demo was actually running on a pc that is as powerful as the ps4 I.e any mid to high end pc out there ATM.Only thing that could sway me is if FIFA or nba 2k14 are noticeable better on the new consoles compared to 360 and ps3, which doesn't look to be the case.
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I think what will happen is that both the Wii U and PS4 will see growth in market share at Microsoft's expense.
Absolutely correct.
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Doesn't look too promising either.
we shall see.
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I'll be the first to admit I was wrong if EA pulls it off too.
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I like buying used games because most games are absolute shit these days. Why would I want to be stuck with pure trash. I made that mistake with Far Cry 3 (it was on sale a bit, brand new) and what an utter piece of shit that game was. Now I`m stuck with it, but at least I can sell it and recoup some money for it. Otherwise, it was money down the toilet.
The bad games certainly outweigh the good games and its madness to suggest that one must pay full price EVERY TIME as Xbox One now demands. Just horrible.
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I will buy GTA V brand new-pre order- as Rockstar deserves to be rewarded for their talent. That is quality just like EA`s Battlefield 3 and 4.
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ive noticed there are less and less demos on xbox live
like they know the quality isnt there
i used to play the demos for ten minutes then get bored with most games
they really need to think about the quality as well as the visuals
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If anyone wants to get the last bit of juice from their current gen systems. I suggest The Last of Us for the PS3, this game has a little bit of PS1's Resident Evil with a mix of Uncharted and the Walking Dead thrown in. A soon to be truly classic game.
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If anyone wants to get the last bit of juice from their current gen systems. I suggest The Last of Us for the PS3, this game has a little bit of PS1's Resident Evil with a mix of Uncharted and the Walking Dead thrown in. A soon to be truly classic game.
Seems great so far, really depressing ,bleak and doesn't hold back on anything.Dont expect a happy story!
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If anyone wants to get the last bit of juice from their current gen systems. I suggest The Last of Us for the PS3, this game has a little bit of PS1's Resident Evil with a mix of Uncharted and the Walking Dead thrown in. A soon to be truly classic game.
I know nothing about this game (purposely so). This is good to hear.
I like to try to be as surprised as possible about certain games while still skimming around enough of their info to get my interest piqued.
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I was in the live demo at the press release. That is a gorgeous map.
I actually had some creative input in that trailer also... I worked on the gameplay capture and worked with the Video Director on it during post production.
I have owned both ps3 and xbox, love the xbox controller and hate the ps3. Also found xbox live to be better than ps3 online. Do you think the xbone is going to be much worse than ps4? I really don't want to get a ps4...
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I have owned both ps3 and xbox, love the xbox controller and hate the ps3. Also found xbox live to be better than ps3 online. Do you think the xbone is going to be much worse than ps4? I really don't want to get a ps4...
I feel the exact same way on the first two points. PS4 has shown nothing really groundbreaking or "better" this time, they're just riding the wave of over reaction from MS handling of DRM, used games, etc....
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I feel the exact same way on the first two points. PS4 has shown nothing really groundbreaking or "better" this time, they're just riding the wave of over reaction from MS handling of DRM, used games, etc....
Good point, here's a good article stating what you basically just said.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-06-14-the-xbox-one-question-why-did-microsoft-do-it
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I have owned both ps3 and xbox, love the xbox controller and hate the ps3. Also found xbox live to be better than ps3 online. Do you think the xbone is going to be much worse than ps4? I really don't want to get a ps4...
I do not think that playing either will be a huge difference. Neither is extremely groundbreaking to be honest. They are just the next level of computing basically.
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I like buying used games because most games are absolute shit these days. Why would I want to be stuck with pure trash. I made that mistake with Far Cry 3 (it was on sale a bit, brand new) and what an utter piece of shit that game was. Now I`m stuck with it, but at least I can sell it and recoup some money for it. Otherwise, it was money down the toilet.
The bad games certainly outweigh the good games and its madness to suggest that one must pay full price EVERY TIME as Xbox One now demands. Just horrible.
what do any of the overrated rockstar games do better than far cry 3?
games today are better than they've ever been
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I like buying used games because most games are absolute shit these days. Why would I want to be stuck with pure trash. I made that mistake with Far Cry 3 (it was on sale a bit, brand new) and what an utter piece of shit that game was. Now I`m stuck with it, but at least I can sell it and recoup some money for it. Otherwise, it was money down the toilet.
The bad games certainly outweigh the good games and its madness to suggest that one must pay full price EVERY TIME as Xbox One now demands. Just horrible.
Far Cry 3 is a very good game. You are one of the few who think otherwise. That is the beauty of it though, everyone has different tastes. It is sad that Microsoft is taking the freedom out of gaming.
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Yeah, whatever.
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/7417-Next-Gen-Buyers-Guide
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PS4 time
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what do any of the overrated rockstar games do better than far cry 3?
games today are better than they've ever been
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bwahahahaha!!
Surely you jest.
They are prettier. They are not better.
Most of the highest rated games are on the DS platform. They are not the best looking. They are often the best.
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It's obviously subjective. I do know one thing-I don't want a guy who loves Final Fantasy games rating my Madden and 2KSports games.
Those little bitches need to stick to their PC WoW and Role Playing bullshit.
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bwahahahaha!!
Surely you jest.
They are prettier. They are not better.
Most of the highest rated games are on the DS platform. They are not the best looking. They are often the best.
they are better in every way
anybody that says games were better 20 years ago is letting their nostalgia cloud their judgment
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I like buying used games because most games are absolute shit these days. Why would I want to be stuck with pure trash. I made that mistake with Far Cry 3 (it was on sale a bit, brand new) and what an utter piece of shit that game was. Now I`m stuck with it, but at least I can sell it and recoup some money for it. Otherwise, it was money down the toilet.
The bad games certainly outweigh the good games and its madness to suggest that one must pay full price EVERY TIME as Xbox One now demands. Just horrible.
WHATTTTTTT!!! That game was awesome dude!!!!!
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they are better in every way
anybody that says games were better 20 years ago is letting their nostalgia cloud their judgment
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I can in no way take your opinion on gaming seriously now.
Thanks for playing. No need to ever talk gaming again.
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they are better in every way
anybody that says games were better 20 years ago is letting their nostalgia cloud their judgment
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In most ways, they are. However, on average (which is what I assume we're talking about) they definitely have much more filler and extraneous bullshit than the games of yesteryear.
The good parts get better, and the bad parts get worse.
Don't think I'm siding with tu on this, btw, I have no idea wtf he's smoking, especially with his "DS games are the highest rated" comment... lol?
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In most ways, they are. However, on average (which is what I assume we're talking about) they definitely have much more filler and extraneous bullshit than the games of yesteryear.
The good parts get better, and the bad parts get worse.
Don't think I'm siding with tu on this, btw, I have no idea wtf he's smoking, especially with his "DS games are the highest rated" comment... lol?
Thats why we have remakes....
ohhhhh. wait!
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In most ways, they are. However, on average (which is what I assume we're talking about) they definitely have much more filler and extraneous bullshit than the games of yesteryear.
The good parts get better, and the bad parts get worse.
Don't think I'm siding with tu on this, btw, I have no idea wtf he's smoking, especially with his "DS games are the highest rated" comment... lol?
If you look around at the best games on average, the DS games average higher... even though there is a substantially higher number of titles, they typically aren't always the prettiest, but they play better and are more fun than a lot of the titles that are released for consoles.
That said, a lot of the DLC titles are also quite good... Games like Shank, Little Big Planet, stuff like that.
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If this is in fact, a true tweet, then I feel even more sorry for people holding onto the Xbox fandom.
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If this is in fact, a true tweet, then I feel even more sorry for people holding onto the Xbox fandom.
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haha
HAHA
BWAHAHAHAHA
Actually, no this isn't funny at freaking all. Regardless which system you are investing in, this is flat out jacked up. It's part of the reason I have a serious issue with EA and Origin. People would get banned from their forums and lose access to all their games on their Origin account. wtf
If you look around at the best games on average, the DS games average higher... even though there is a substantially higher number of titles, they typically aren't always the prettiest, but they play better and are more fun than a lot of the titles that are released for consoles.
That said, a lot of the DLC titles are also quite good... Games like Shank, Little Big Planet, stuff like that.
I think a big reason why "little" games like that do so well is because most of their merits are on actually, you know, being a game and not some interactive movie (which is cool too).
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Seems great so far, really depressing ,bleak and doesn't hold back on anything.Dont expect a happy story!
Awesome game! Would make a great movie if done right.
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Awesome game! Would make a great movie if done right.
How awesome is the opening 15 minutes! (And how sad :'( )
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How awesome is the opening 15 minutes! (And how sad :'( )
Sad, but refreshing. Life is horrible at times.
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I can in no way take your opinion on gaming seriously now.
Thanks for playing. No need to ever talk gaming again.
ok you keep dwelling on the past, i'll live in the now
funny coming from you especially since you help develop games today, basically you admit you can't make games as "good as they used to be" haha
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bwahahahaha!!
Surely you jest.
They are prettier. They are not better.
Most of the highest rated games are on the DS platform. They are not the best looking. They are often the best.
Define 'better' and the time period we're talking about here.
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ok you keep dwelling on the past, i'll live in the now
funny coming from you especially since you help develop games today, basically you admit you can't make games as "good as they used to be" haha
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Hardly.
I'm saying that on average games are not as fun as they were years ago.
Are there exceptions? Yes. And I have been fortunate to be involved in many of them. I have also been involved in some stinkers as well.
It takes more than just one person to make a game. There are hundred and sometimes thousands of people involved.
So a producer can easily destroy a great concept with ineptitude. He can also make something that would be poor into something great.
One person can definitely make or break a game in certain places.
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Hardly.
I'm saying that on average games are not as fun as they were years ago.
Are there exceptions? Yes. And I have been fortunate to be involved in many of them. I have also been involved in some stinkers as well.
It takes more than just one person to make a game. There are hundred and sometimes thousands of people involved.
So a producer can easily destroy a great concept with ineptitude. He can also make something that would be poor into something great.
One person can definitely make or break a game in certain places.
you had more fun with those older games because you were younger and more easily amused and impressed
if you played most of those games for the first time today you probably wouldn't enjoy them as much
my favorite game of all time is resident evil but i'll be the first to admit it is very dated at this point
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Hardly.
I'm saying that on average games are not as fun as they were years ago.
Are there exceptions? Yes. And I have been fortunate to be involved in many of them. I have also been involved in some stinkers as well.
It takes more than just one person to make a game. There are hundred and sometimes thousands of people involved.
So a producer can easily destroy a great concept with ineptitude. He can also make something that would be poor into something great.
One person can definitely make or break a game in certain places.
If we are talking NES/SMS-era I'm a bit torn. The "classics" from those systems are classics for a reason, no doubt. But a TON of the software that was released was pretty bad.
Also, game design back then was hampered by tech limitations. A lot of games (platformers/shooters especially) were filled with cheapness, grinding etc. to extend play-times and such.
Bad developers used that crap to extend their game and make it more "challenging," good developers would be able to craft a game within the tech limitations that was challenging but not rage quit frustrating.
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you had more fun with those older games because you were younger and more easily amused and impressed
if you played most of those games for the first time today you probably wouldn't enjoy them as much
my favorite game of all time is resident evil but i'll be the first to admit it is very dated at this point
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I think the point is, even though dated, there have been few games that matched scenes like the Dog Scene in the original RE. The whole mood, game play (even though a bit clunky) and overall experience of games like RE were amazing.
And, to be honest, I'm not on either side of this. I've liked many games from each generation.
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you had more fun with those older games because you were younger and more easily amused and impressed
if you played most of those games for the first time today you probably wouldn't enjoy them as much
my favorite game of all time is resident evil but i'll be the first to admit it is very dated at this point
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That's odd... Considering how my 11 year old son who is just recently playing games like Zelda and Super Mario Bros. 2 and 3 is absolutely in love with them.
Double Dragon is also one of his favorites... So I will disagree that it's my "nostalgia".
Since when does the "look" of a game and how it's "dated" mean that it's not fun?
If we are talking NES/SMS-era I'm a bit torn. The "classics" from those systems are classics for a reason, no doubt. But a TON of the software that was released was pretty bad.
Also, game design back then was hampered by tech limitations. A lot of games (platformers/shooters especially) were filled with cheapness, grinding etc. to extend play-times and such.
Bad developers used that crap to extend their game and make it more "challenging," good developers would be able to craft a game within the tech limitations that was challenging but not rage quit frustrating.
Bad games are universal... When the game sucks, no one cares what year it was... The reality was just that it was not fun to play.
Fun factor is the ultimate test of a game.
I think the point is, even though dated, there have been few games that matched scenes like the Dog Scene in the original RE. The whole mood, game play (even though a bit clunky) and overall experience of games like RE were amazing.
And, to be honest, I'm not on either side of this. I've liked many games from each generation.
I've liked many games from each gen also... One of my top 5 games of all time was on the Dreamcast for goodness' sake!
As I said above... Fun is what it's about. Just because it looks good doesn't mean shit to me. If it's fun, it's fun. Looks be damned.
Fuck, Tetris hasn't changed much in the past 30 years, but it's still one of the most fun games to play.
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Fuck, Tetris hasn't changed much in the past 30 years, but it's still one of the most fun games to play.
There was a game on the Atari 400 called Archon. It was a chess board, and when you or you opponent met on a square, you fought. Each had different abilities, so there was strategy when you picked a fight, who you sacrificed, and who you thought you could steal a victory from with a lesser opponent. It was simple, but to this day, is an absolute blast if you have a friend who like the game too.
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There was a game on the Atari 400 called Archon. It was a chess board, and when you or you opponent met on a square, you fought. Each had different abilities, so there was strategy when you picked a fight, who you sacrificed, and who you thought you could steal a victory from with a lesser opponent. It was simple, but to this day, is an absolute blast if you have a friend who like the game too.
Reminds me slightly of BattleChess.... There's a remake I would like to see done. I would absolutely LOVE to see that.
I would also love to see a remake of the "Crusader" series... They were amazing.
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Wonderboy 3 the dragons trap is still my all time fav game.
Still play through it every so often.
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Looks like Microsoft changed their DRM policy. Good move. http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310
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Games like Double Dragon, Super Mario Bros 3, and Castlevania, will stand the test of time.
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The original RE series: the best tank simulator games on the market.
Really? Resident Evil, is my favorite franchise of all time. 5 was decent, 6 was bad.
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I'm getting a Wii just to play Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 I have decided.
Can't go wrong, I loved every flagship Mario Game so far.
Seems like if you don't really love shoot em ups or sports games you shouldn't buy ps or xbox...?
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I'm getting a Wii just to play Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 I have decided.
Can't go wrong, I loved every flagship Mario Game so far.
Seems like if you don't really love shoot em ups or sports games you shouldn't buy ps or xbox...?
U gay?
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U gay?
Only if I want to be
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Only if I want to be
x2. Mario games are never gay.
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As great as it is - fucking far cry 3 is way too stressful! Here I am in the middle of a fire fight, suddenly a tiger jumps in and kills the pirates, giving me enough time to steal a car and drive away.... then I jump in the water and I'm literally two inches away from freedom when out of nowhere a fucking gator gets me, scared the shit out of me!!!!!!!!
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If we are talking NES/SMS-era I'm a bit torn. The "classics" from those systems are classics for a reason, no doubt. But a TON of the software that was released was pretty bad.
Also, game design back then was hampered by tech limitations. A lot of games (platformers/shooters especially) were filled with cheapness, grinding etc. to extend play-times and such.
Bad developers used that crap to extend their game and make it more "challenging," good developers would be able to craft a game within the tech limitations that was challenging but not rage quit frustrating.
care to offer concrete examples? the "cheapness", in other words, genuine challenge, is the main area in which modern games, on the whole, have definitely regressed. not to mention grinding, lol. that shit is about a million times more pervasive in modern games.
most people these days consider arcade games cheap "quarter suckers"... games which had practically 0 filler, 0 bullshit, and were far more "fair".
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As great as it is - fucking far cry 3 is way too stressful! Here I am in the middle of a fire fight, suddenly a tiger jumps in and kills the pirates, giving me enough time to steal a car and drive away.... then I jump in the water and I'm literally two inches away from freedom when out of nowhere a fucking gator gets me, scared the shit out of me!!!!!!!!
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MS pretty much admitted how ridiculous the DRM and the online requirement is. They aren't doing it now.
Still has a 500$ price tag and mandatory Kinect though. Either way, big win for gamers.
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Love that game - but its not a game I play to relax! My hands were literally shaking lol
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That's odd... Considering how my 11 year old son who is just recently playing games like Zelda and Super Mario Bros. 2 and 3 is absolutely in love with them.
Double Dragon is also one of his favorites... So I will disagree that it's my "nostalgia".
Since when does the "look" of a game and how it's "dated" mean that it's not fun?
so you use a handful of all time classic timeless games that still have games in their series being released 20 years later as "proof" that games were better back then?
for every mario bros 3, there's a 100 E.T. games from the nes era that are completely unplayable today
movies, music, and tv are worse today than 20 years ago but video games are far better
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so you use a handful of all time classic timeless games that still have games in their series being released 20 years later as "proof" that games were better back then?
for every mario bros 3, there's a 100 E.T. games from the nes era that are completely unplayable today
movies, music, and tv are worse today than 20 years ago but video games are far better
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ET was an Atari 2600 game actually.
What games do you have that are "worse"?
There was Superman... That was terrible... Sure ET was bad... What do you have to back up your statement?
Even stupid games like Super Spike V-Ball were 100 times better than most games today.
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ET was an Atari 2600 game actually.
What games do you have that are "worse"?
There was Superman... That was terrible... Sure ET was bad... What do you have to back up your statement?
Even stupid games like Super Spike V-Ball were 100 times better than most games today.
Super Spike V-Ball? Come on, man, get serious.
Super Dodgeball? Maybe. Just be sure to pick Iceland.
EDIT: I get what you're saying, I think, a game like Super Mario Bros. 3 (in my GOAT list) is miles better than a complex, poorly designed game that looks great. I don't think anyone is arguing that, or are they, I'm having trouble keeping track.
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Super Spike V-Ball? Come on, man, get serious.
Super Dodgeball? Maybe. Just be sure to pick Iceland.
Super Spike V-BALL was FANTASTIC!!! How dare you say anything about it... I spend DAYS... NAY WEEKS playing that with my friends.
Super Dodgeball was also freaking sweet.
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Super Spike V-BALL was FANTASTIC!!! How dare you say anything about it... I spend DAYS... NAY WEEKS playing that with my friends.
Super Dodgeball was also freaking sweet.
When it comes to old school sports games.....
Super Dodge Ball is up there with my absolute favorite being Little League World Series by SNK. Great controls, solid graphics, pretty deep and simple to pick up. In college I brought my NES in to the house I lived in one year and we played the hell out of it.
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Super Spike V-BALL was FANTASTIC!!! How dare you say anything about it... I spend DAYS... NAY WEEKS playing that with my friends.
Super Dodgeball was also freaking sweet.
X2 on Super Spike Vball
You had the "power" team with limited speed but huge spiking ability, the "all around" team, the "defensive" team and the "speed" team.
I always had a blast playing with friends on that game and utilizing each teams strengths to gain an edge. Blowing a guy off the screen with a huge spike was always a blast!
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I never compare old games vs new ones. I think it is better to go by console generations. There are a few games that stand the test of time like: Mario Bros., Pacman, Tetris etc....
P.S. Name me a better Hockey game than Blades Of Steel for the Nes :D
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P.S. Name me a better Hockey game than Blades Of Steel for the Nes :D
Any hockey game made by EA and 2K Sports post 1990.
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Any hockey game made by EA and 2K Sports post 1990.
not for pure fun factor. No way. You can pick that game up today, and have a blast playing with a buddy.
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not for pure fun factor. No way. You can pick that game up today, and have a blast playing with a buddy.
Agreed.
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Nah, hockey games are by far the most consistent sports franchise in gaming in terms of quality.
Blades of Steel is more comparable to NFL Bltz or NBA Jam.
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Nah, hockey games are by far the most consistent sports franchise in gaming in terms of quality.
Blades of Steel is more comparable to NFL Bltz or NBA Jam.
No shit ;D Actually that is a great point. Blades of Steel is hockey's version of NBA Jam and NFL Blitz. Good post.
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No shit ;D Actually that is a great point. Blades of Steel is hockey's version of NBA Jam and NFL Blitz. Good post.
Yeah, and that's not a bad thing necessarily. Just a taste preference.
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Yeah, and that's not a bad thing necessarily. Just a taste preference.
Genre: Brainless sports games ;D
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Genre: Brainless sports games ;D
Mutant league football/hockey and Pigskin Footbrawl 8)
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Genre: Brainless sports games ;D
No doubt. I like sports simulations but there is def a market for the arcade type sports games.
I still think one of the best sports games ever was the arcade version of Arch Rivals. Double Dribble and Tecmo Bowl arcade versions are up there as well.
Anyone remember Mat Mania?
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No doubt. I like sports simulations but there is def a market for the arcade type sports games.
I still think one of the best sports games ever was the arcade version of Arch Rivals. Double Dribble and Tecmo Bowl arcade versions are up there as well.
Anyone remember Mat Mania?
Ah Tecmo Bowl. The home of the end zone to endzone, touchdown pass ;D
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I never compare old games vs new ones. I think it is better to go by console generations. There are a few games that stand the test of time like: Mario Bros., Pacman, Tetris etc....
P.S. Name me a better Hockey game than Blades Of Steel for the Nes :D
That's probably more fair.
Earlier generations were bound by some pretty tight technical limitations. Now, that isn't to say that some of the NES's best don't compare to today's best but it's an uneven comparison. Like comparing NBA/NFL/MLB athletes across different decades. Some of the best from earlier decades definitely could play in today's era but many simply could not.
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ET was an Atari 2600 game actually.
What games do you have that are "worse"?
There was Superman... That was terrible... Sure ET was bad... What do you have to back up your statement?
Even stupid games like Super Spike V-Ball were 100 times better than most games today.
LOL your nostalgia blinds you
next you'll tell me that going to the library to do research was better than using the internet at home
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LOL your nostalgia blinds you
next you'll tell me that going to the library to do research was better than using the internet at home
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it took a lot new intelligence for sure.
Better? No. Unless you want information to be accurate.
Keep on believing your nonsense. I certainly don't have to validate my opinion almost all of the industry will agree with me.
One random dudes opinion isn't going to change my mind.
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it took a lot new intelligence for sure.
Better? No. Unless you want information to be accurate.
Keep on believing your nonsense. I certainly don't have to validate my opinion almost all of the industry will agree with me.
One random dudes opinion isn't going to change my mind.
who agrees with you? they all must be comparing the best nintendo games to the recent medal of honor haha
speaking of that game it got horrible reviews yet you can't understand why people didn't like it, perhaps your taste is bad
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Omg!!!! I loved that game. Such a classic. Same with the RBI baseball, and Bases Loaded games. 8)
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who agrees with you? they all must be comparing the best nintendo games to the recent medal of honor haha
speaking of that game it got horrible reviews yet you can't understand why people didn't like it, perhaps your taste is bad
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What are you talking about?
I didn't like it either.
I've said there were some good things in it, but overall, it was a terrible game.
So I don't know what you mean by "Yet you can't understand why people didn't like it."
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Omg!!!! I loved that game. Such a classic. Same with the RBI baseball, and Bases Loaded games. 8)
Baseball Stars was the shit too. Tecmo had a good BB I remember as well.
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Baseball Stars was the shit too. Tecmo had a good BB I remember as well.
konami had bases loaded.
That was probably my favorite.
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konami had bases loaded.
That was probably my favorite.
Bases Loaded was Jaleco.
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Bases Loaded was Jaleco.
Was it? I always thought it was Konami... None the less. That game was loads of fun.
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http://www.infowars.com/kinect-may-violate-proposed-we-are-watching-you-legislation-in-the-us/