yes but the opposition to this theory claims a macro isnt a macro, bc macros are metabolized differently.
which is obviously true.
but how much a difference does it make for recreational bodybuilder gym rats who keep overal calries in check.
is it even worth the debate?
is it even worth constrcuting diets for non training people who got bit fat and seek a short term fix for their stupidness?
It's not.
Adonis is right, so are you. You achieve same goal - caloric restriction just by different means.
You say - eat a lot of protein (you will need it) and veggies (they will keep you full) therefore you achieve caloric restriction and loose fat.
Adonis says - eat whatever and count calories. Different approach, end result is the same.
For 95% of people out there the only diet advice they need is - eat fucking 2000 calories and move a lot. That's it. Everyone knows how to compose your meals anyway, that's not some fucking voodoo magic. And yes some people do respond better to higher carbs, some people do respond better to higher fats. But you don't really have to pay so much attention. If you get bloated on carbs even with that restriction then by all means just get those 2k calories mainly from fats.
To get lower than 10% MAYBE you will need to pay attention to details, like - eliminate carbs, load carbs, get most of the calories after workout or whatever. But 10% is not far from 8% and who needs less anyway.