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Washington (CNN) -- Mitt Romney's gambit of running as the anti-Barack Obama could still work, Republican strategists say, if the presidential hopeful spends less time trying to define his opponent and more time spelling out how he would handle the job.
"It would have to take a serious effort to define the race on (the Romney campaign's) terms," said one veteran Republican strategist familiar with the inner workings of the campaign. "They are going to have to run a more disciplined campaign. He needs to make the connection of what the state of the economy is and what his policies are."
Romney has been trying to do just that with a new series of ads refocusing on an economic message that has been drowned out lately by attention to his controversial comments that nearly half of the nation is dependent on government and will vote for Obama no matter what.
Opinion: Can Romney get back on track?
In one positive 30-second spot, Romney speaks interview-style about a few of the proposals he claims will help bolster earnings for middle income Americans and ultimately create 12 million jobs before the end of a potential first term.
"My plan is to help the middle class," Romney says in the ad. "Trade has to work for America. That means crack down on cheaters like China. That means open up new markets."
That's exactly the kind of messaging Romney needs to do more of, said GOP operatives who didn't want to be identified speaking about campaign strategy.
"He needs to have a good week and run a good campaign," one Republican strategist said of the period leading up to the first debate on October 3 in Denver. "Get his message out there and do it without making mistakes."
But some GOP strategists are starting to worry that the odds aren't in Romney's favor with the debate on top of him, the election just over a month out, and the candidate running behind in battleground polls.
"There are a couple of things going on," said a veteran Republican presidential campaign strategist, explaining the Romney campaign has struggled to define what he would do as president.
"They put their emphasis on the negative side" and are not well positioned to deal with a shifting electorate, noting that the economy is better and people are more hopeful, the strategist said.
While overall unemployment stood at 8.1 percent in August, joblessness has fallen in key battleground states, which were some of the hardest hit during the recession. For instance, Ohio's unemployment rate is 7.2%, down from nearly 9 percent in August of last year.
Moreover, nearly half of the 10 states with the highest foreclosure rates are battlegrounds, including Florida, Ohio, Michigan and Nevada. But the housing market is some of them is beginning to stabilize.
Jobless claims fell to lowest level since July
The Obama campaign outspent Romney in several battlegrounds in an effort to define the GOP nominee, former House Speaker and Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich said on CNN's "The Situation Room" on Wednesday.
And Romney's counterattacks haven't been effective.
"The Romney campaign is yet to find a thematic way of explaining itself and laying out in a clear crisp way the difference between Romney and Obama," Gingrich said. "And I think that frankly is a problem."
The Romney campaign has used an "overly methodical model where they go out and keep saying the same thing" instead of using the successes of Republican governors in battleground states like Ohio and Florida as examples of how his similar policy proposals could work on a national scale, Gingrich added.
Romney spent Wednesday in Ohio in an attempt to help turn things around. And he's campaigning on Thursday in Virginia, another key state where polls show he trails Obama.
"I know what it takes to get this economy going again. I care about the people of America," Romney said outside Columbus. "And the difference between me and President Obama is I know what to do and I will do what it takes to get this economy going."
Romney said his "heart aches" for families who are struggling.
That may be what he feels, but folks in Ohio are having a hard time believing it, said William Angel, a political science professor Ohio State University.
In a manufacturing state where union roots run deep, Romney's opposition to the auto bailout in 2009 rankles many while class differences could be an issue in southern Ohio where many people make their living as coal miners, Angel said.
"That 47 percent comment hasn't helped him," Angel said of Romney's controversial fundraiser comments about Obama supporters. "Ohio is pretty working class. It really cut against a lot of folks."
Sen. Rand Paul, a Tea Party favorite from neighboring Kentucky, joined Romney on the trail on Tuesday, taking his trademark populist message to the very groups the GOP nominee is counting on to help turn the tide of the election.
But CNN contributor Alex Castellanos, a Republican consultant who worked on Romney's 2008 presidential campaign, says Romney rallies aren't effective because he's preaching to the base.
"For months, I have publicly urged team Romney to go to Washington and campaign in the belly of the beast," Castellanos wrote in a column on Thursday. "Go to the center of Barack Obama's government-centered society. Tear down the columns in government's temples."
It will take more than winning over voters in Republican strongholds to give Romney the boost needed in the final leg of the campaign.
"One of the things has been discussed some is that there was a strategic decision that simply being an alternative to Obama would suffice to get the 50 plus one," said another Republican strategist who has also worked closely with GOP presidential campaigns. "He's run as a biographical candidate. The problem when you run as a biographical candidate is the other side can poke holes."
The Obama campaign spent the better part of this summer trying to define Romney by undercutting his narrative. Romney was characterized as an aloof executive whose private equity business at Bain Capital in Boston profited on deals that threw people out of work or sent jobs overseas, a tactic which some polls suggest worked in key areas of the country.
Out of context out of bounds? Not in 2012
"We saw Pennsylvania move during the early summer. It was associated with that first set of ads that Obama ran emphasizing Bain and outsourcing," said David Lowry, director of the Center for American Political Responsiveness at Pennsylvania State University. "Those really resonated. It's a very blue collar-state."
Some Republican strategists see the upcoming economic-themed debate as an opportunity for Romney to recover.
"The Romney campaign tactically probably wanted to have a race that was perceived as closer going into those debates," said a GOP strategist. "The debates provide an opportunity. ... They're not really equal until they stand next to each other in a debate."
Others feel it's more important that Romney perform at least solidly in the debate but work harder on the campaign trail to gain momentum. "The most fundamental thing he needs to do is define the race," said another strategist. "They have to reestablish the messaging inside the campaign."
However, political experts see Romney's debate performance as a pivotal moment.
"He needs a game-changer in the first debate. He has one good shot to change things and that's the debate," said CNN senior political analyst David Gergen, who said Romney has to prevail with his deficit in polls growing.
"To lose the debate at who is better at creating jobs and handling the economy is a serious indictment of his campaign. It's make or break time," Gergen said.
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"The specifics of my plan are that Obama has failed the American people".
Intrade 78.9% today.
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A miracle. Which despite their best efforts doesn't seem to be happening. Though he might have a trick or two he can pull out of his magic underwear. If not, then this is their best campaign tactic.....????
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The RNC has paid a consulting firm over $2 million to REGISTER people to vote. Register, you say? Before you go apoplectic, their workers turned all the Republican ones they got in, and shredded the Democratic ones.
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The Tea Party group that wants to purge over 750,000 registered voters in Ohio is now challenging college students for not including their dorm room number on their registration forms! Take away their vote - we don't know what floor they live on!
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It would take idiots like you three wising up.
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if you can't win the race as it is.... you try to change the path of the race to avoid those areas where you're slow.
So you knock out as many 'obstacles' - democrat voters - and you might have a chance.
back in 2008, some states had 2000 people show up to vote, and 2 machines to do it on. Every democrat that has to get out of line to go pick up their kid is now a romney voter.
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It would take idiots like you three wising up.
You think they give a fuck about the country or the economy or state of affairs we are in. Those three liars have kneepadded obama from day 1 and cant give one reason whatsoever why he deserves a second term or why a second term would be good for the country.
The biggest liar of them all is 180 trying to convince us he is voting for romney. LOL. Fucking jokester.
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The biggest liar of them all is 180 trying to convince us he is voting for romney. LOL. Fucking jokester.
say whatever you like. your ass wanted bloomberg/scoot brown 2012, remember? we all have our flaws and stupid misguided moments.
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say whatever you like. your ass wanted bloomberg/scoot brown 2012, remember? we all have our flaws and stupid misguided moments.
I want ABO.
Bloomberg is a nanny state prick - but fiscally he runs a great ship and has kept the city relatively safe from being overtake by the hoareds of animals in the boroughs.
Wait till you see what happens when he leaves and we get on the democrat commies in waiting.
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It would take idiots like you three wising up.
People wising up is the reason Obama is pulling ahead in the polls.
Don't worry, God wants Obama to be President. And what is a minion like you doing to question his will? ::)
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People wising up is the reason Obama is pulling ahead in the polls.
Don't worry, God wants Obama to be President. And what is a minion like you doing to question his will? ::)
Fucking LOL and bump for Dario :D
Its god's will that Obama wins how do you feel about that?
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Fucking LOL and bump for Dario :D
Its god's will that Obama wins how do you feel about that?
Trust in God's judgement and never question him. Unless of course he deems it necessary to make Obama POTUS.
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People wising up is the reason Obama is pulling ahead in the polls.
Don't worry, God wants Obama to be President. And what is a minion like you doing to question his will? ::)
Bump again Dario.
Looks like its goods will that Obama remains POTUS.
Do you feel like your god has abandoned you?
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I want ABO.
Bloomberg is a nanny state prick - but fiscally he runs a great ship and has kept the city relatively safe from being overtake by the hoareds of animals in the boroughs.
Wait till you see what happens when he leaves and we get on the democrat commies in waiting.
You lost your ABO card buddy. You lost that when you were willing to mock the hell out of Paul supporters but you never once raised a beef about the coordinated and underhanded shit that took place by Romney supporters in the primary, much of it documented as fact. Yea, you didn't say shit despite the evidence. Your ABO card is revoked bitch ;D You're a Romney whore and you're not allowed to use "ABO" anymore :D
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You lost your ABO card buddy. You lost that when you were willing to mock the hell out of Paul supporters but you never once raised a beef about the coordinated and underhanded shit that took place by Romney supporters in the primary, much of it documented as fact. Yea, you didn't say shit despite the evidence. Your ABO card is revoked bitch ;D You're a Romney whore and you're not allowed to use "ABO" anymore :D
Booommm I love it
So true it hurts :D
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Booommm I love it
So true it hurts :D
It is kinda messed up. He was willing to lambaste Paul supporters but I never heard anything from him on the shit Romney supporters got away with and probably got paid for. There's a good deal of evidence that surfaced right away and 3333 didn't have a bitch about it. No... his ABO card is void lol...
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It is kinda messed up. He was willing to lambaste Paul supporters but I never heard anything from him on the shit Romney supporters got away with and probably got paid for. There's a good deal of evidence that surfaced right away and 3333 didn't have a bitch about it.
I have cheerleader Romney? Where? Maybe a post here or there but he was my last choice. Now - he is the only one who can get that ghetto commie from office. That is what matters NOW. If Paulites don't want to help in that, why should I bother e them right now?
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It is kinda messed up. He was willing to lambaste Paul supporters but I never heard anything from him on the shit Romney supporters got away with and probably got paid for. There's a good deal of evidence that surfaced right away and 3333 didn't have a bitch about it. No... his ABO card is void lol...
He is a RP supporter when its convenient but really he has the agenda that the repub party/FOX has.
He copy pastes a lot of shit but only reads the headlines when you confront him he spews some commie leech bla bla shit thats really old.
I think this fits 33..... pretty good:
Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation.
- Oscar Wilde
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I have cheerleader Romney? Where? Maybe a post here or there but he was my last choice. Now - he is the only one who can get that ghetto commie from office. That is what matters NOW. If Paulites don't want to help in that, why should I bother e them right now?
buddy, you started flaming Paul supporters well before the convention. And I do have a valid point. You were willing to call out what you saw wrong with Paul supporters but you never said one fucking thing against the shit Romeny supporters were pulling and that crap was posted here and proven to be fact. You didn't call those fools out did you?
Yea, your ABO card is gone bitch. ;D You have your Romney card, live with it, you bought it, own it.
In a few years when Romney sucks ass if he wins, there's no way you get to pull your "But I was just ABO" card. You lost that.
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buddy, you started flaming Paul supporters well before the convention. And I do have a valid point. You were willing to call out what you saw wrong with Paul supporters but you never said one fucking thing against the shit Romeny supporters were pulling and that crap was posted here and proven to be fact. You didn't call those fools out did you?
Yea, your ABO card is gone bitch. ;D You have your Romney card, live with it, you bought it, own it.
In a few years when Romney sucks ass if he wins, there's no way you get to pull your "But I was just ABO" card. You lost that.
Lol. Paul is not a god or saint. When he does bullshit or his supporters do they are supposed to be not called out why?
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Lol. Paul is not a god or saint. When he does bullshit or his supporters do they are supposed to be not called out why?
This is not a reply to anything I said. I didn't say he was a god or saint and didn't even suggest it. Well compaired to Romney and Obama he could be considered pretty high up lol... You can't even deny that.
I pointed out that you only called out Paul supporters for wrong doing which you did. You never once had a thing to say about the antics posted here and all over the net with what the Romney camp and supporters were doing that was pretty low ball. I never saw you say shit on that once.
So yea, your ABO card is long gone! You wanted Romney, you got him, own it. Don't be a bitch... I fucking owned my Obama vote, you better own your Romney support.
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This is not a reply to anything I said. I didn't say he was a god or saint and didn't even suggest it. Well compaired to Romney and Obama he could be considered pretty high up lol... You can't even deny that.
I pointed out that you only called out Paul supporters for wrong doing which you did. You never once had a thing to say about the antics posted here and all over the net with what the Romney camp and supporters were doing that was pretty low ball. I never saw you say shit on that once.
So yea, your ABO card is long gone! You wanted Romney, you got him, own it. Don't be a bitch... I fucking owned my Obama vote, you better own your Romney support.
You mean I did not want a few crackpots and sore losers taking over and turning the convention into a complete fiasco ? Yes. Was how it was done underhanded yes, but I understand it.
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You mean I did not want a few crackpots and sore losers taking over and turning the convention into a complete fiasco ? Yes. Was how it was done underhanded yes, but I understand it.
Fuck you, you were calling out Paul supporters long before the convention. You started several months before and then just increased. BUT AS I SAID, you never once had anything to say against the proven low ball antics documented on Romney supporters in state primaries even though they were posted here and all over the fucking net.
oh you claim to be a news junkie, but you just happened to miss all that huh? Funny how you post every detail ever said on some shit but missed anything Romney supporters did to fuck with shit.
Right, you lost your ABO card bitch. Own your Romney support. You clearly worked for it.
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Fuck you, you were calling out Paul supporters long before the convention. You started several months before and then just increased. BUT AS I SAID, you never once had anything to say against the proven low ball antics documented on Romney supporters in state primaries even though they were posted here and all over the fucking net.
oh you claim to be a news junkie, but you just happened to miss all that huh? Funny how you post every detail ever said on some shit but missed anything Romney supporters did to fuck with shit.
Right, you lost your ABO card bitch. Own your Romney support. You clearly worked for it.
Hugo got a clear point 33....
Just own it trying to deflect just makes it worse :)
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Paul came in last remember? It wasn't even close in the vote tally.
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Paul came in last remember? It wasn't even close in the vote tally.
Well, I'll give you a peanut for replying...... You have a long way to go for a freaking brownie since you avoided 98%
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Fuck you, you were calling out Paul supporters long before the convention. You started several months before and then just increased. BUT AS I SAID, you never once had anything to say against the proven low ball antics documented on Romney supporters in state primaries even though they were posted here and all over the fucking net.
oh you claim to be a news junkie, but you just happened to miss all that huh? Funny how you post every detail ever said on some shit but missed anything Romney supporters did to fuck with shit.
Right, you lost your ABO card bitch. Own your Romney support. You clearly worked for it.
I called out Paul supporters for their cultish behavior no different than the obama cult members. I also called them out for attacking repubs far worse than anything they ever said or say about that communist ghetto thug in the WH while Paul is running in the GOP primary.
As for Mittens - i know full well what he did and have many posts on it - and Benny B never lets me forget them either. Right now I care about one thing getting O-Thug from office.
Funny thing too about the cult of Ron Paul - his supporters would not have supported Newt, Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain had they won either vs obama. That is why I say what I do about them. They are cult no different than the other stupid ass cult following for obama
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I called out Paul supporters for their cultish behavior no different than the obama cult members. I also called them out for attacking repubs far worse than anything they ever said or say about that communist ghetto thug in the WH while Paul is running in the GOP primary.
As for Mittens - i know full well what he did and have many posts on it - and Benny B never lets me forget them either. Right now I care about one thing getting O-Thug from office.
Funny thing too about the cult of Ron Paul - his supporters would not have supported Newt, Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain had they won either vs obama. That is why I say what I do about them. They are cult no different than the other stupid ass cult following for obama
UH, Benny never let you forget about you saying Romney was a turd. I don't remember you calling out the underhanded crap, sometimes illegal shit that was taking place by Romney supporters in the state primaries that was posted here and on the net. Yea, you were fine calling out over excited Paul supporters but you never said shit when it came to the crap pulled by Romney's camp... What makes it even worse is that I doubt Paul had anything to do with the people who were supporting him, but there is no way I would bet money that the Romney camp wasn't behind the shit they pulled.
Did you say anything about any of that? NOPE... You were happy to post over and over calling me and others Paulbots ::) while looking past the shit Romeny clowns did and probably got paid for....
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How many times can one argue in circles without actually addressing the issue on hand? This crybaby is dancing around worse than a flamingo with fire ants on it's legs.
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How many times can one argue in circles without actually addressing the issue on hand? This crybaby is dancing around worse than a flamingo with fire ants on it's legs.
STFU - do you have even one single post on this board about politics or do just stalk people?
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Look at this crybaby in his little meltdown.
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I called out Paul supporters for their cultish behavior no different than the obama cult members. I also called them out for attacking repubs far worse than anything they ever said or say about that communist ghetto thug in the WH while Paul is running in the GOP primary.
As for Mittens - i know full well what he did and have many posts on it - and Benny B never lets me forget them either. Right now I care about one thing getting O-Thug from office.
Funny thing too about the cult of Ron Paul - his supporters would not have supported Newt, Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain had they won either vs obama. That is why I say what I do about them. They are cult no different than the other stupid ass cult following for obama
Of course they would not support Newt, Bachmann, Santorum, or Cain. They represent the lobbyist and RP doesnt. Dont you get it?
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33,
Do you condemn the GOP for how they handled RP in the convneiton?
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33,
Do you condemn the GOP for how they handled RP in the convneiton?
Not really to be honest and I would have felt the same way if it were santorum or newt i would have felt the same way. a few deranged crackpots wanted to blow the whole thing up and make a mess so as to hand over the election and narrative to obama.
Fuck them.
Most of a Cult of Paul are just as bad as the Cult of Obama and want to hand the election over to obama since they were pissed off Paul lost.
Oh fuck that and fuck them too.
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Not really to be honest and I would have felt the same way if it were santorum or newt i would have felt the same way. a few deranged crackpots wanted to blow the whole thing up and make a mess so as to hand over the election and narrative to obama.
Fuck them.
Most of a Cult of Paul are just as bad as the Cult of Obama and want to hand the election over to obama since they were pissed off Paul lost.
Oh fuck that and fuck them too.
Didnt the GOP change the rule from 5 states to 8 to prevent Ron Paul from being recognized? And they kept a lot of people on buses while they did the vote? And the Nays were louder than the Ayes as Boehnner read the pre-written vote results form a prompter? lol...
And that "cult" is the only thing still connecting the GOP to its actual roots of fiscal responsibility. Romney sure ain't bringing that, as he's a big govt RINO.
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Didnt the GOP change the rule from 5 states to 8 to prevent Ron Paul from being recognized? And they kept a lot of people on buses while they did the vote? And the Nays were louder than the Ayes as Boehnner read the pre-written vote results form a prompter? lol...
And that "cult" is the only thing still connecting the GOP to its actual roots of fiscal responsibility. Romney sure ain't bringing that, as he's a big govt RINO.
It was ugly and nasty and i agree dirty - but this is politics, not prayer service.
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Republicans are a disaster at this point and losing will be the greatest thing to happen to them. They will then have a choice to reorganize. The sad thing is, they will most likely choose to go in the wrong direction, not of Barry Goldwater, but of the opposite shit brain religious nutso, non issue nonsense that continues to rile them up. Its sad that they are behaving more and more like misinformed children when they could go the other way. The shit they believe is so far fetched, a normal human being would easily see its not true, but they don`t know any different. What happened and why will it only get worse?
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Republicans are a disaster at this point and losing will be the greatest thing to happen to them. They will then have a choice to reorganize. The sad thing is, they will most likely choose to go in the wrong direction, not of Barry Goldwater, but of the opposite shit brain religious nutso, non issue nonsense that continues to rile them up. Its sad that they are behaving more and more like misinformed children when they could go the other way. The shit they believe is so far fetched, a normal human being would easily see its not true, but they don`t know any different. What happened and why will it only get worse?
2010 midterms resulted from 2008 and Obama's extremism.
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2010 midterms resulted from 2008 and Obama's extremism.
Problem is, Obama is not extreme at all.
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Problem is, Obama is not extreme at all.
Come on now. His record is to the left of Bernie Sanders
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I want ABO.
Bloomberg is a nanny state prick - but fiscally he runs a great ship and has kept the city relatively safe from being overtake by the hoareds of animals in the boroughs.
Wait till you see what happens when he leaves and we get on the democrat commies in waiting.
I had not noticed until this post, how poor your English is. Are you a foreigner? What exactly are "hoareds" anyway?
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I had not noticed until this post, how poor your English is. Are you a foreigner? What exactly are "hoareds" anyway?
After Bloomberg is Dinkins redux in the waiting. I live here and we all know what is coming. The animals are going to take over again just like the early 90's.
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I had not noticed until this post, how poor your English is. Are you a foreigner? What exactly are "hoareds" anyway?
He claims to be a lawyer. Though his grammar would not pass 8th grade public school standards.
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It was ugly and nasty and i agree dirty - but this is politics, not prayer service.
no, that part wasn't politics... that part was manipulating rules to prevent peoples' voices form being heard.
They can change it from 8 to 12 or 26 states next time too. NOT politics - this is votes counting or not, boss.
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It was ugly and nasty and i agree dirty - but this is politics, not prayer service.
WTF ???
Are you serious. Voter Fraud and last min rule changes is politics.
Fuck off you are pathetic now. And you sign up to watch voter fraud but its okay when RP gets fucked???
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WTF ???
Are you serious. Voter Fraud and last min rule changes is politics.
Fuck off you are pathetic now. And you sign up to watch voter fraud but its okay when RP gets fucked???
What I said is I understand what and why it happened. It's dirty nasty ugly but I get it.
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What I said is I understand what and why it happened. It's dirty nasty ugly but I get it.
So if Obama wins the election by voter fraud i guess its okay because its politics?
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So if Obama wins the election by voter fraud i guess its okay because its politics?
And if Mitt wins by voter fraud it's okay because it's ABO.
Idiots can't keep the Boot of Hypocrisy out of their asses for anything.
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What I said is I understand what and why it happened. It's dirty nasty ugly but I get it.
3333386 has an entire thread dedicated to voter fraud.
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3333386 has an entire thread dedicated to voter fraud.
Convention propoganda is not the same as an election. Romney had the votes by a huge margin overall.
According to the Paul Bots - they were more concerned about paul being "disenfranchised" (who got the least amount of votes) than the the fact that nominee who got the most votes and the millions of voters who voted for mittens?
See? There are two ways to look at this. Yes it was underhanded, yes it was messy, but i understand it.
What was the alternative? Let a few crackpots take over the entire convention, make it a complete shit show and further aide their attempt to get obama a second term?
No thanks.
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Convention propoganda is not the same as an election. Romney had the votes by a huge margin overall.
According to the Paul Bots - they were more concerned about paul being "disenfranchised" (who got the least amount of votes) than the the fact that nominee who got the most votes and the millions of voters who voted for mittens?
See? There are two ways to look at this. Yes it was underhanded, yes it was messy, but i understand it.
What was the alternative? Let a few crackpots take over the entire convention, make it a complete shit show and further aide their attempt to get obama a second term?
No thanks.
Take over?
Most people would say it was simply a matter of free speech and the right to vote for WHO YOU WANT.
It won't matter... Romney will lose and maybe, just maybe, the right will get its head out of its ass and finally realize that if they keep pushing these RINOs that they will continue to lose.
Who are we kidding though... The establishment in the Republican party would lose all power then and we know they won't let that happen.
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After Bloomberg is Dinkins redux in the waiting. I live here and we all know what is coming. The animals are going to take over again just like the early 90's.
Although rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, made consecutive declines during the last 36 months of his four-year term, ending a 30-year upward spiral and initiating a trend of falling rates that continued beyond his term, Dinkins was hurt by the perception that crime was out of control during his administration. Dinkins also initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%.
I get it now. Mayor David Dinkins is African American and you didn't like him. President Obama is African American and you believe he is a gangster. Seems to be an obvious connection, wouldn't you say?
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I get it now. Mayor David Dinkins is African American and you didn't like him. President Obama is African American and you believe he is a gangster. Seems to be an obvious connection, wouldn't you say?
I lived in NYC during Dinkins disastrous reign. He was a DISASTER
Crown Heights riots anyone?
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Not really to be honest and I would have felt the same way if it were santorum or newt i would have felt the same way. a few deranged crackpots wanted to blow the whole thing up and make a mess so as to hand over the election and narrative to obama.
Fuck them.
Most of a Cult of Paul are just as bad as the Cult of Obama and want to hand the election over to obama since they were pissed off Paul lost.
Oh fuck that and fuck them too.
That question put you in a "fucking" bad mood, it seems.