US to stop deporting and grant work permits to younger illegal immigrants

[Palpatine Q]

No fuck you, your forefathers came to this country illegally and stole land from the Indians and now call themselves Americans and the indians native americans promoting racism and separation, and now you want to be selfish and say its all for me i want nobody else to come to this country and have a chance at a good life but you fuckers will not clean the bathrooms or pick fruits in the fields or do any of the cheap labor that the Mexicans are willing to do.

It's not just the "shit" jobs that Mexicans do. 10 years ago in this country a guy like Johhny falcon could make a good living painting houses, doing carpentry..shit like that.

Now contractors hire Mexicans that work for 7 dollars an hour, back in the day if you needed an in-between job you could hook up with someone and make yourself a hundred bucks a day as a laborer,and make it through a pinch.... now Paco is doing it for 40 bucks a day. and it is everywhere.

[Soul Crusher]

Did Jesus Obey the laws of his time?  You sure about that?

So illegals aliens are like jesus?  

[GigantorX]

It's not just the "shit" jobs that Mexicans do. 10 years ago in this country a guy like Johhny falcon could make a good living painting houses, doing carpentry..shit like that.

Now contractors hire Mexicans that work for 7 dollars an hour, back in the day if you needed an in-between job you could hook up with someone and make yourself a hundred bucks a day as a laborer,and make it through a pinch.... now Paco is doing it for 40 bucks a day. and it is everywhere.

Correct.

[Soul Crusher]

Correct.

And these tax parasites are killing the nation by popping out all these little tacos and sending them tyo the schools and hospitals and never paying for anything. 

[Soul Crusher]

but isnt this a good thing.if this isnt done, theyd turn into drug dealers or stay there as illegal workers anyway.


california is full of guys, what difference do a couple more mexicans make?

Because now their illegal alien parents will never be deported either.   

We are turning this country into an even bigger illegal alien magnet with this. 

This is obama's plan - to collapse america.

[Option D]

So illegals aliens are like jesus?  

No.. what the fuck are you talking about... get your head out of your ass

[War-Horse]

Follow the laws that's been written. This traitor makes them up as he goes along!

Hmmm. Kinda like bush/cheney did.
As usual coach is throwing himself on his sword of truth only knowing what one side of the story is.

BTW if we dont keep the hardworking ones we wouldnt have any lettuce, tomatoes, peaches, oranges......seriously

[War-Horse]

LOL. Another backfired coach thread.  90,000 and counting.

[Ronnie Rep]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/15/obama-jobs-program-help-illegals-compete-with-americans-for-scarce-jobs?utm_source=e_breitbart_com&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C+June+15%2C+2012&utm_campaign=Breitbart+News+Roundup%2C

This asshole would bend over for a vote!

Today, the Obama Administration, in an obvious attempt to boost the President's flailing reelection campaign, announced that it would bypass Congress and rewrite the nation's immigration laws.

    The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.

The second sentence of the Associated Press story addresses the true impetus for the policy change; election-year politics. Obama, and today's Democrat party, see the electorate as a patchwork-quilt of interest groups. Sprinkle enough goodies on certain blocks of voters and they believe they can put together just enough support to win. It can work to a point. But, when the pandering to specific groups undercuts one's overarching narrative it can erode support in the overall electorate.

Obama's policy change sends a clear message to Hispanic voters. It also sends a clear message to non-hispanic voters. Namely, Obama has just added millions of workers to the legal labor force. Millions of illegal immigrants will now be able to legally compete with Americans for the very few jobs available. This message will not be lost on working-class voters.

The media loves to obsess over GOP divisions on the immigration issue. What they fail to note, however, is the Democrats are equally divided. (A Breitbart award to the first reporter who goes to a union hall to get reaction to today's policy change.)

This is unsurprising because Americans are divided on the issue. We're a nation of immigrants and pride ourselves in being a land of opportunity for those eager to seek the American Dream. We are also, though, a nation of laws and many Americans of all political leanings are uncomfortable with the idea that someone can be "rewarded" by breaking the law. Especially at a time that Americans across the economic spectrum feel acute economic anxiety.

Its a tough issue. Which is why we have a Congress, where the nation's representatives can deliberate and try to find the right policy path. It isn't pretty and it often fails. But, that's how laws our made. We do not enact far-reaching rewrites of our laws by executive fiat. Political expediency doesn't negate an entire branch of government.

The media will no doubt applaud Obama's policy reverse on this issue. I've already seen a few commentators hail it as a brilliant move to shore up the Hispanic vote. But, the bigger question is, why does Obama need to shore up the Hispanic vote? He won their support overwhelmingly against McCain in 2008. Why does he need to bypass Congress and institute a policy that risks alienating working class voters?

Obama's entire reelection campaign is based on pandering to specific blocks of voters. Its all he has left. In just three and a half years, he's lost the ability to talk to the rest of us. He's lost the ability to communicate with our collective aspirations.

Thats what you are worried abou? Live with it Obama will be a 2 term pPresident!

[mass243]

It's not just the "shit" jobs that Mexicans do. 10 years ago in this country a guy like Johhny falcon could make a good living painting houses, doing carpentry..shit like that.

Now contractors hire Mexicans that work for 7 dollars an hour, back in the day if you needed an in-between job you could hook up with someone and make yourself a hundred bucks a day as a laborer,and make it through a pinch.... now Paco is doing it for 40 bucks a day. and it is everywhere.

Isn't that exactly the market economy you have wanted to defend even with nuke war  

In market economy the price of work is set on markets by demand and supply.
If someone else does same work cheaper, rational human being chooses him over somebody wanting twice the wage.
Price of work is always right if markets are let to operate freely.

If state interferes in the process described above, it's called planned economy.
In former socialist countries, government ordered the wage for every work.


I hate to sound maybe offending here but are you guys supporters of free markets and market economy only when it suits you ?
Same with democracy - it's cool when everybody agrees with you, but gets annoying and worthless when they disagree ??
If that's the case, it's hypocrisy at worst.

[War-Horse]

Isn't that exactly the market economy you have wanted to defend even with nuke war  

In market economy the price of work is set on markets by demand and supply.
If someone else does same work cheaper, rational human being chooses him over somebody wanting twice the wage.
Price of work is always right if markets are let to operate freely.

If state interferes in the process described above, it's called planned economy.
In former socialist countries, government ordered the wage for every work.


I hate to sound maybe offending here but are you guys supporters of free markets and market economy only when it suits you ?
Same with democracy - it's cool when everybody agrees with you, but gets annoying and worthless when they disagree ??
If that's the case, it's hypocrisy at worst.

QFT x 10

[Soul Crusher]

QFT x 10

False you incompetent fool.   Legal workers have to pay payroll taxes, fica, UE, etc.   Illegals and those that employ them are not engaging in free market system but are engaging in illegal acts undermining leigtimate business. 

[Palpatine Q]

And these tax parasites are killing the nation by popping out all these little tacos and sending them tyo the schools and hospitals and never paying for anything. 

Yup. my GF's daughter started kindergarten this year, and we had to enroll her in a school quite a few miles from our house, because the closest ones were all filled with beaners. we had to put her in a school in North Scottsdale,which is Super-rich, to get her away from those little pack-mules..and we live in a good neighborhood ourselves. it's fucked up

[Option D]

False you incompetent fool.   Legal workers have to pay payroll taxes, fica, UE, etc.   Illegals and those that employ them are not engaging in free market system but are engaging in illegal acts undermining leigtimate business. 

Who hires them

[Soul Crusher]

Who hires them

People who are breaking the law as well. 

The job of the govt is to deport the illegals and enforce labor laws against those who employ the illegals.   

[polychronopolous]

Who hires them

People that should be sitting in a jail cell.

[War-Horse]

False you incompetent fool.   Legal workers have to pay payroll taxes, fica, UE, etc.   Illegals and those that employ them are not engaging in free market system but are engaging in illegal acts undermining leigtimate business. 

You failed comprehension because you were on getbig right?   Mr 88,700 posts.

[the trainer]

Its a free market so as a business you will hire the best worker at the cheapest rate that is why so many american companies are using overseas labor, so in a free market if the value of your job is going down and you are not making enough dont sit and cry like a bitch go find something else to do.

[Soul Crusher]

Its a free market so as a business you will hire the best worker at the cheapest rate that is why so many american companies are using overseas labor, so in a free market if the value of your job is going down and you are not making enough dont sit and cry like a bitch go find something else to do.

There is a thing called THE LAW! 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2011/09/obama_on_dream_act_cant_just_c.html

[War-Horse]

The correct article has been added on page 1.   Try to re-read it coach and 33.  They must have No criminal record and attend college or military. These are not the thugs and gang members of the latin world.   They will contribute to society much more' than either of you two.


Once again the "republican edited version" has been canceled for the actual article in truth.

[bike nut]

Yup. my GF's daughter started kindergarten this year, and we had to enroll her in a school quite a few miles from our house, because the closest ones were all filled with beaners. we had to put her in a school in North Scottsdale,which is Super-rich, to get her away from those little pack-mules..and we live in a good neighborhood ourselves. it's fucked up

Listen white trash.....you get your bitch ass back down south of Indian School Rd. and take your brood with you.

          

Fuckin' creatine-heads always rooting through my garage looking for their next hit.

[King Shizzo]

Awesome.  Just what we needed.

[Parker]

WWJD

Hey-Zues would kick the people out, tell them he loves them, but sees what will happen in the future will be conflict---and that whoring out for votes, whether good or bad, is not ethically or morally right.


And then he would tell them that he and God loves them, and that this is god's will.

[Coach is Back!]

It's a jobs program for ILLEGALS. What part of that are you clowns missing? if they want to come to the country or are already in the country and they want to go through the process of becoming LEGAL then fine.

[War-Horse]

It's a jobs program for ILLEGALS. What part of that are you clowns missing? if they want to come to the country or are already in the country and they want to go through the process of becoming LEGAL then fine.

Its bogged down dummy. If they went thru the legal way all the lettuce would rot in the feild because you wouldnt go pick it for us coach.....dont you ever see the big picture???    You are seriously retarded.....