wow, but this is scary dangerous advice, you can never know when glucogeneisis will happen.better to have some carbs if one wants take insulin
Well that's the thing. So many people have fears and they usually let those fears lead the way. But we know enough about insulin now. And we know that there are other hormones and pathways that are used to shuttle glucose and other nutrients around our body. In the absence of glucose, it's well established and widely known that a process called gluconeogenesis occurs like you said. So why don't we explore that further in a clinical and meticulous fashion so we can now more, instead of being blinded by fears.
I've been reading a lot more about the carbless post workout approach thanks to ProudVirgin and I'm really, really intrigued. The insulin component comes from the fact that it's such an anabolic compound. And I think that it'd be REALLY beneficial for someone who's dieting, or someone who's using a limited amount of AAS or no AAS at all. If we could take a little bit of insulin during dieting and fill our muscle glycogen stores without consuming carbs, that sounds like it'd make for a lean and mean dieting monster. But monster doses aren't required. And anyone who's use insulin carefully knows the telltale signs of hypoglycemia and that just a few grams of dextrose is required to bring them out of the danger zone.
I guess that's where a lot of the fear comes from too... us bodybuilders need to play around in that danger zone because that's where all the fruits of our labor lie. There's no low laying fruit when it comes to insulin. You either use it and get fat, or you use it with growth hormone, copious amounts of anabolics and use it in a dosage that's just high enough to work synergistically with the GH and let it catapult your gains.
I've played around with it a lot, but never in a manner that got me any gains. I did learn a lot about my body's insulin flow and glucose metabolism. It goes way beyond simply "insulin is released in the presence of carbs and sometimes other macros to shuttle nutrients around". I think I'm going to keep dieting really hard so I can play around with insulin a lot more. I'm a low AAS kind of guy and I'm probably going to use insulin when I get to the mid, single-digit range again. I've pretty much sworn off any sort of fat burner and hate thyroid meds too much, so there's not much to play with once I'm peeled and veiny like a cock.