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RagingBull

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Banks spike credit card interest rates
« on: March 29, 2009, 06:58:54 AM »
Although banks are scooping up billions in bailout money, or borrowing money from the Federal Reserve at as low as 0 percent, they aren't passing those savings on to consumers.


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Re: Banks spike credit card interest rates
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 07:19:18 AM »
RB,

Creditboards.com is a really great site for info on the industry also there's a http://www.creditmattersblog.com/ that's great.

The bankers are greedy whores.

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Re: Banks spike credit card interest rates
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 07:24:34 AM »
Well, the bailouts are to cover the losses.

The rather large difference between the rates they get from THEIR lender turn around and LEND it to us is due to the risk premium, which has gone up dramatically.

Come to think of it... Any business always passes the risk onto the consumer, so how the hell do these companies end up going bankrupt to begin with??

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Re: Banks spike credit card interest rates
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2009, 07:29:41 AM »
Well, the bailouts are to cover the losses.

The rather large difference between the rates they get from THEIR lender turn around and LEND it to us is due to the risk premium, which has gone up dramatically.

Come to think of it... Any business always passes the risk onto the consumer, so how the hell do these companies end up going bankrupt to begin with??

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Risk has been passed to the consumer twice.

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Re: Banks spike credit card interest rates
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2009, 07:46:49 AM »
Risk has been passed to the consumer twice.

But that's always the case... isn't it? I mean that's the current state of affairs in our economy and Big Business: Risk is minimized and losses are hidden. How do these companies end up going bankrupt? It's pure madness. In the credit card business you're talking about a profit margin of 5-6% of balances, with the risk premium amounting to 1-2% of that... meaning that even in the worst case scenario (5% profit margin and 2% risk) you can have almost 3 defaulting accounts per every active account and still break even (sort of). How in the fucking world do these massive conglomerates manage to amass such gargantuan losses??

Makes no sense.

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Re: Banks spike credit card interest rates
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2009, 06:58:03 PM »
But that's always the case... isn't it? I mean that's the current state of affairs in our economy and Big Business: Risk is minimized and losses are hidden. How do these companies end up going bankrupt? It's pure madness. In the credit card business you're talking about a profit margin of 5-6% of balances, with the risk premium amounting to 1-2% of that... meaning that even in the worst case scenario (5% profit margin and 2% risk) you can have almost 3 defaulting accounts per every active account and still break even (sort of). How in the fucking world do these massive conglomerates manage to amass such gargantuan losses??

Makes no sense.

Because of the way they leverage their assets.  When you get a credit card from a bank, your promise to pay (promissory note/signed loan application) is an asset on their balance sheet.  This asset is then leveraged to provide collateral for the purchase of other securities and contracts on margin.  When you default on a credit card or loan, you remove the real asset at the base of a reverse pyramid of collateral.

So when you have a 50,000 dollar promissory note that has been leveraged 15:1 and you no longer pay, the bank has just lost 750,000 in collateral.  It does not take that many defaults to destroy the balance sheet of a bank.

Banks are not making money by borrowing at 2% (your savings account) and then loaning the same money out at 6% for a mortgage loan.  They are borrowing at 2% and then leveraging that many many times on the open market.