Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Boost on August 21, 2008, 06:16:35 AM

Title: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Boost on August 21, 2008, 06:16:35 AM
Everyone talkin bout how USA were going to dominate the olympics, especially the track and field.....

Whats happened?

Both the male and female 4x100 relay teams just dropped the baton!  :o

Butter fingers :P
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2008, 06:17:54 AM
who cares, really.  we're talking about games here.  Russia used the distraction to invade a soverign nation.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: webcake on August 21, 2008, 06:18:08 AM
China = all drugs

I just saw the relays, both the American men and women dropped the baton. Bad day for them...
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:21:35 AM
who cares, really.  we're talking about games here.  Russia used the distraction to invade a soverign nation.

Yes.

Those damn Russians will do it everytime.....
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: blinky on August 21, 2008, 06:23:39 AM
Everyone talkin bout how USA were going to dominate the olympics, especially the track and field.....

Whats happened?

Both the male and female 4x100 relay teams just dropped the baton!  :o

Butter fingers :P


shit, really??

being canadian that makes me smile   ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:25:26 AM
shit, really??

being canadian that makes me smile   ;D

Its ok.

Everyone always wants to see the top dog fall.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: The.Giant on August 21, 2008, 06:26:05 AM
Its ok.

Everyone always wants to see the top dog fall.

China failed?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:27:23 AM
China failed?

No. They are not the top dog.

They EAT dogs ;)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: blinky on August 21, 2008, 06:28:53 AM
No. They are not the top dog.


at this olympics they are top dog
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 21, 2008, 06:29:07 AM
It's actually 47 Gold to 28.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:30:34 AM
at this olympics they are top dog

But, c'mon.

Wouldja really wanna BE them???
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: chester_bbb on August 21, 2008, 06:33:13 AM
But, c'mon.

Wouldja really wanna BE them???

Why the hate for china? Have you been there?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: webcake on August 21, 2008, 06:33:58 AM
But, c'mon.

Wouldja really wanna BE them???

Excellent point. They're power simply comes from being over-populated.

I mean, a 1 child limit per family  :-\
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:38:26 AM
Why the hate for china? Have you been there?

Nah.

I am in litigation with some Chinese currently.

Just keeping sharp!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: musclecenter on August 21, 2008, 06:41:52 AM
No. They are not the top dog.

They EAT dogs & cats ;)
fixed ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: musclecenter on August 21, 2008, 06:55:55 AM
China = all drugs

I just saw the relays, both the American men and women dropped the baton. Bad day for them...
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3033532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=3033532&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines)
quote from DEA"....We came to find that 99.9 percent of the steroids in the U.S. were coming from China,....."
"The Chinese "have done everything" they were asked to do, said DEA spokesman Rusty Payne."
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Kwon on August 21, 2008, 06:56:17 AM
Impressive to see a "fixed"-post by Coach Huang!

That shows you that the getbig-way goes over boundaries, bypassing age and countries/cultures alike!

Nobody is safe from the getbig-method of doing things! :D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 06:58:35 AM
Excellent point. They're power simply comes from being over-populated.

I mean, a 1 child limit per family  :-\

Russia gives a NEW Car for having a kid.

Their pop goes down by 750K/year due to depression.

240, yes on this?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Option D on August 21, 2008, 07:00:33 AM
who cares, really.  we're talking about games here.  Russia used the distraction to invade a soverign nation.


hey 240...remember the movies that came out in the 80's like Iron Eagle and Rocky 4 which were US vs USSR prop movies  those made me proud to be american and hate russia
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 07:02:00 AM

hey 240...remember the movies that came out in the 80's like Iron Eagle and Rocky 4 which were US vs USSR prop movies  those made me proud to be american and hate russia

Rocky 4 =great soundtrack...made me wanna train in a barn!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Option D on August 21, 2008, 07:03:15 AM
Rocky 4 =great soundtrack...made me wanna train in a barn!

yeah....no easy way out...classic
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on August 21, 2008, 07:20:22 AM
Why the hate for china? Have you been there?
yeah they took my bea flora and ate here.....
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2008, 07:24:48 AM
China = all drugs



and with their shitty genetics no one will ever suspect by looking at them
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: TrueGrit on August 21, 2008, 07:27:38 AM
Balco scandal has hit the USA hard and got everyone looking over their shoulder.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: tommywishbone on August 21, 2008, 07:30:22 AM
who cares, really.  we're talking about games here.  Russia used the distraction to invade a soverign nation.

Russia invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and burned their cities? That's harsh. 
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SquatAss on August 21, 2008, 09:12:08 AM
Russia invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and burned their cities? That's harsh. 

Damn those Russians!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: K-1 on August 21, 2008, 09:24:16 AM
not focused at all. 2 dropped batons, tripping on hurdles, gasing out 40meters from finish line, tyson gay nutting up and folding like a tent in semi's....insane. No concentration period. money 4 gold medals in the drain.....and let me not...tyson can indeed run sub 9.6 for those who don't follow track at all...he nutted up big time IMO. Huge disappointment I must say.


as far as the medal count...we are up actually overall in "T&F" medal count just only 4 golds out of 20 total count. So we are medaling in Track and Field at least.

china taking home that amount of golds in the other games is insane imo. Mostly games that require "judging and scoring" 
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
China is dominating? LOL!!! 
 
                             Gold  Silver  Bronze     TOTAL
1.     United States     29    34       32           95 
2.     China                46    15       22           83

The most important number is the total in medals. About half the gold medals China has are from sports that require judges.  Being the home country, I am surprised they don't have more judges in their pockets. 

USA track and field is criticized, yet how many medals does China have in that sport?

List of total medals in track and field:

                    Gold  Silver   Bronze    Total
1. USA             4       8        8           20
2. Russia          5       2        3           10
3. Jamaica        5       3        1            9
CHINA              0       0        2            2

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Hereford on August 21, 2008, 11:03:41 AM
I wsa watching a couple of nights ago... And apparently there is a gymnastics event that involves a trampoline?

What is the deal with this????
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 21, 2008, 11:15:06 AM
Its ok.

Everyone always wants to see the top dog MUTT fall.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 21, 2008, 11:16:19 AM
No. They are not the top dog.

They EAT dogs ;)

Koreans and Philippinos eat dog...AMERICANS HAVE SEX WITH THEM!!!!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 11:17:29 AM
Koreans and Philippinos eat dog...AMERICANS HAVE SEX WITH THEM!!!!

Fail.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SAMSON123 on August 21, 2008, 11:20:18 AM
Fail.

I UNDERSTAND YOUR ANGER.. ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: chester_bbb on August 21, 2008, 12:07:28 PM
Nah.

I am in litigation with some Chinese currently.

Just keeping sharp!

Is the litigation a stroke caused by an adjustment you performed?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Top Dog on August 21, 2008, 12:33:01 PM
China lets you see what they want you to see. Walk a few miles out of Beijing and you'll get the real China.  The people willing to hide out in the hull of a ship to get here. And as far as the hate/envy of the United States, why would anyone from the U.S. care?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 12:38:23 PM
Is the litigation a stroke caused by an adjustment you performed?

No...malfeasance on their part. Will not turn out well for them.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
IOC opening up an investigation into the Chinese women's gymnastics team. Hopefully they'll be kissing those medals they won bye bye.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 12:42:19 PM
China lets you see what they want you to see. Walk a few miles out of Beijing and you'll get the real China.  The people willing to hide out in the hull of a ship to get here. And as far as the hate/envy of the United States, why would anyone from the U.S. care?

Because we have the power, money and intellegence to serve panacea to all of the world's woes.

Just like Burma takes our relief rations and puts their own labels on them, most do not want to submit to and benefit from our splendor and largesse that we have spawned in a mere two hundred years of existence
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
The most important number is the total in medals.

How convenient  ::)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Top Dog on August 21, 2008, 12:48:53 PM
The majority of the world is such a mess and would be a bigger mess if not for our financial aid. It's almost like the U.S. has to pick up and dust off those who aren't able to go it on their own. Say what you want about the U.S. and it's woes......it's still lightyears ahead of anyone else, generally speaking.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SUPREME BEING on August 21, 2008, 12:54:46 PM
China is dominating? LOL!!! 
 
                             Gold  Silver  Bronze     TOTAL
1.     United States     29    34       32           95 
2.     China                46    15       22           83

The most important number is the total in medals. About half the gold medals China has are from sports that require judges.  Being the home country, I am surprised they don't have more judges in their pockets. 

USA track and field is criticized, yet how many medals does China have in that sport?

List of total medals in track and field:

                    Gold  Silver   Bronze    Total
1. USA             4       8        8           20
2. Russia          5       2        3           10
3. Jamaica        5       3        1            9
CHINA              0       0        2            2



Very childish and irrelevant post. Obviously every race has genetics suited to particular sports, Chinese as well as most Asians recognise they will never have the explosive power that US has. However, they do have very good eye hand coordination and therefore aim to collect as many medals as possible in the events they are best suited to. It is similar to a Country which specialises in a particular raw material and in one in which they enjoy comparative advantage.

To compare US track and field to Chinese track and field is like comparing apples and oranges, its is similar to them comparing US table tennis to Chinese table tennis.

Please guys grow-up, obviously China has put a lot of emphasis on performing well in these games as they are home nation after all. The Olympics IMO and generally the opinion of most athletes should never bring politics into the sport - that is generally what the Olympics stands for and the reason why Black athletes were criticised so heavily for the black power celebrations all those years ago. This is a sporting extravaganza and should not take politics into account.

China did well and i feel USA underperformed in track and field and were not as dominant as in previous games. I am sure this will only spur the US to bigger and better things come 2012 - sometimes people need a kick up the back side to let them know they are slacking or the competition is strengthening.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 12:56:48 PM
Very childish and irrelevant post. Obviously every race has genetics suited to particular sports, Chinese as well as most Asians recognise they will never have the explosive power that US has. However, they do have very good eye hand coordination and therefore aim to collect as many medals as possible in the events they are best suited to.

Exactly. China's average IQ is much higher than U.S. so they do sports that require more skill. Dumber americans favour sports that are more physical.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Top Dog on August 21, 2008, 12:59:12 PM
Exactly. China's average IQ is much higher than U.S. so they do sports that require more skill. Dumber americans favour sports that are more physical.
I disagree with that.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:01:24 PM
I disagree with that.

Which part?  ???
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 21, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
consider this: america is still going to win golds in mens and 'womens' basketball, as well as in group volleyball, thats like 30 gold medals right there
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: K-1 on August 21, 2008, 01:07:25 PM
Exactly. China's average IQ is much higher than U.S. so they do sports that require more skill. Dumber americans favour sports that are more physical.

I don't agree. I feel if that were the case china would always perform like they have this olympics making this discussion non existant. They have far exceeded any other summer games in their history this season (which is fine)...but they don't have a history of domination (total nor gold medals earned) to support your claim.

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:10:07 PM
Exactly. China's average IQ is much higher than U.S. so they do sports that require more skill. Dumber americans favour sports that are more physical.

But...


wait!

We use forks.

They use those two stupid sticks
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Voice of Doom on August 21, 2008, 01:13:10 PM
God Bless the Chinese.  I for one am ready to accept our new Dragon Masters!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 01:17:30 PM
Over 500 million people in China live on roughly $2 a week. But hey, the billions they dumped into the Olympics and the millions of dollars they spend every year to make sure a couple thousand athletes train 12 hours a day, eat the best food and live in the best homes sure goes real far when they win a few medals at the Olympics.

China implemented program 119 after 2000. They set out to target events that had multiple medal opportunities because they're hell bent on winning more medals than anyone else. All the training in the world and they still travel in the over all.

Maybe they should cheat more like they did with their women's gymnastics team. Hopefully they end up losing the 4 or so medals they won with them.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:18:51 PM
Over 500 million people in China live on roughly $2 a week. But hey, the billions they dumped into the Olympics and the millions of dollars they spend every year to make sure a couple thousand athletes train 12 hours a day, eat the best food and live in the best homes sure goes real far when they win a few medals at the Olympics.

China implemented program 119 after 2000. They set out to target events that had multiple medal opportunities because they're hell bent on winning more medals than anyone else. All the training in the world and they still travel in the over all.

Maybe they should cheat more like they did with their women's gymnastics team. Hopefully they end up losing the 4 or so medals they won with them.

Not that it matters, but I think that is $2 per day
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 01:20:16 PM
Not that it matters, but I think that is $2 per day

Probably right. Still only $14 a week. Meanwhile, they dumped $40 billion into staging an Olympics full of fake bullshit, reneging and making sure they have athletes that train 24/7/365 just to stand a chance of hanging with the West.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:22:13 PM
Probably right. Still only $14 a week. Meanwhile, they dumped $40 billion into staging an Olympics full of fake bullshit, reneging and making sure they have athletes that train 24/7/365 just to stand a chance of hanging with the West.

Yes.

I read they dumped 200 billion into their infrastructure to impress. Sounds nuts, but I heard and read this several times.

Truth? Does it even exist there?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 01:23:17 PM
Yes.

I read they dumped 200 billion into their infrastructure to impress. Sounds nuts, but I heard and read this several times.

Truth? Does it even exist there?

Not in China. Truth is what their government tells you it is. And if you disagree, they kill you.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 21, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
consider this: america is still going to win golds in mens and 'womens' basketball, as well as in group volleyball, thats like 30 gold medals right there
also add baseball and softball to that, we will pass them for gold medals. haha all the resources, effort and drugs pumped into the chinese olympic athletes could not overcome their inferior oriental genetics for athleticism
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Geo on August 21, 2008, 01:27:15 PM
consider this: america is still going to win golds in mens and 'womens' basketball, as well as in group volleyball, thats like 30 gold medals right there

no

only one medal per sport

a 4xwhatever relay (swimming or running) only counts as ONE in the medal race

baseball = 1

basketball=1

teams wins = 1
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 21, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
I don't like their army oriented approach to sports.. Takes the fun out of it.

They don't have better athletes than the US.

There's tons of criticism towards China from most people who know what's going on. Sure they're booming, but face it they're still barbaric and don't respect human rights. We choose to support their economic growth because they produce cheap, but their quality is nothing to shout about. Most people that boast about China have deep rooted dislike for the US which extends from jealousy, which is why they constantly talk about how big a force China is.  ::)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:29:44 PM
We use forks.
They use those two stupid sticks

Which proves my point of chinese doing things that require skill. Americans need a tool as simple as possible to operate = fork.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 01:30:22 PM
I don't like their army oriented approach to sports.. Takes the fun out of it.

They don't have better athletes than the US.

There's tons of criticism towards China from most people who know what's going on. Sure they're booming, but face it they're still barbaric and don't respect human rights. We choose to support their economic growth because they produce cheap, but their quality is nothing to shout about. Most people that boast about China have deep rooted dislike for the US which extends from jealousy, which is why they constantly talk about how big a force China is.  ::)

Exactly. If the USA started FORCING (like China) children to train specific sports from the age of three for every day of their lives until the age of 18 so they could compete in the Olympics, then I suspect we would be winning 2x as many gold medals as China. As it stands, the best athletes in the USA are too busy making millions of dollars playing professional sports to bother competing in gymnastics and other events the general populace doesn't care about.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:30:57 PM
Which proves my point of chinese doing things that require skill. Americans need a tool as simple as possible to operate = fork.


Mmmm


well


its called working hard versus working smart

Get my drift?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:33:16 PM
its called working hard versus working smart

And average chinese IQ is higher than in U.S.

So?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on August 21, 2008, 01:33:26 PM
one of china's female gymnasts cant be more than 9 years old. not 15, or 14, certainly not 16, not even 12 or 10, but 8 or 9. lol
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
And average chinese IQ is higher than in U.S.

So?

What's your point? 500 million Chinese live in absolute poverty and eat dog shit. Looks like that higher IQ really took them places.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:34:01 PM
Exactly. If the USA started FORCING (like China) children to train specific sports from the age of three for every day of their lives until the age of 18 so they could compete in the Olympics, then I suspect we would be winning 2x as many gold medals as China. As it stands, the best athletes in the USA are too busy making millions of dollars playing professional sports to bother competing in gymnastics and other events the general populace doesn't care about.

Look, like Chris Rock says:

"You KNOW I have a shitload of money, but face it, if you are white, and you woke up me, as in being black and rich, you'd say, OH SHIT..."

Obviously, he was much funnier than the way I just fucked it up.

POINT:

You do not wanna be a Chinese. Period. Medals, rice, chopsticks. Whatever.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:35:13 PM
And average chinese IQ is higher than in U.S.

So?

Guy in New Haven owns 11 hot dog carts. Cannot read.

Grosses 700K per year

IQ/ Schmicue.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:42:42 PM
Guy in New Haven owns 11 hot dog carts. Cannot read.
Grosses 700K per year
IQ/ Schmicue.

Great example!

U.S. has developed a great economy with limited intellectual resources - props for that. Too bad americans got lazy some time ago and have now converted themselves to the fattest and one of the most ignorant nations in the entire world. The old infrastructure makes current lifestyle possible, with billions of foreign money flowing in daily just to support it.

But as we all know, U.S. is a stock that's about to collapse. Soon there will be a major adjustment. And Chinese, being much smarter than americans, will keep on growing all the way to world domination in 20 years or so. If they already kick U.S. ass at the olympics while still being far from reaching their potential, what will the olympics in 2028 be like? Probably something like China 50 golds, U.S. 20 golds. Matters very little how the medals come, U.S. will have some kind of excuse they're going to use.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 01:45:28 PM
Great example!

U.S. has developed a great economy with limited intellectual resources - props for that. Too bad americans got lazy some time ago and have now converted themselves to the fattest and one of the most ignorant nations in the entire world. The old infrastructure makes current lifestyle possible, with billions of foreign money flowing in daily just to support it.

But as we all know, U.S. is a stock that's about to collapse. Soon there will be a major adjustment. And Chinese, being much smarter than americans, will keep on growing all the way to world domination in 20 years or so. If they already kick U.S. ass at the olympics while still being far from reaching their potential, what will the olympics in 2028 be like? Probably something like China 50 golds, U.S. 20 golds. Matters very little how the medals come, U.S. will have some kind of excuse they're going to use.

I just think they are so very hearty from all the rickshaw pulling they do all day.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: chester_bbb on August 21, 2008, 01:46:14 PM
Look, like Chris Rock says:

"You KNOW I have a shitload of money, but face it, if you are white, and you woke up me, as in being black and rich, you'd say, OH SHIT..."

Obviously, he was much funnier than the way I just fucked it up.

POINT:

You do not wanna be a Chinese. Period. Medals, rice, chopsticks. Whatever.

But you're not white. You're an EYE-talian that looks like a paki.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:46:27 PM
I just think they are so very hearty from all the rickshaw pulling they do all day.

epic denial of truth  ::)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 01:47:25 PM
But you're not white. You're an EYE-talian that looks like a paki.

Exactly. By the way, ever tried Moosejay's butter chicken take out? Not bad. Will order again!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: chester_bbb on August 21, 2008, 01:56:52 PM
Exactly. By the way, ever tried Moosejay's butter chicken take out? Not bad. Will order again!

I like his nan bread with tandoori chicken and curry lamb stew.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 02:12:36 PM
Very childish and irrelevant post. Obviously every race has genetics suited to particular sports, Chinese as well as most Asians recognise they will never have the explosive power that US has. However, they do have very good eye hand coordination and therefore aim to collect as many medals as possible in the events they are best suited to. It is similar to a Country which specialises in a particular raw material and in one in which they enjoy comparative advantage.

You are an idiot.  The thread starter only compared gold medal count. His only basis for claiming Chinese superiority was HOW many gold medals they won, while at the same time ignoring how many medals in total were won by the USA.  The TOTAL number of medals is what it is important as that is the number that is always emphasized at the end of each Olympics. Emphasized by EACH country.

Countries like the USA, RUSSIA and China don't go into the games thinking "Oh, we will see how many medals we get in the events that is more suitable to us". That is your thinking and it is an over analyzed point at that. I was addressing what the basis of the thread starter's thinking. Which was China was the top dog because it had more medals. Nothing could be farther from the truth and unlike you I supported mine with stats.

Everyone knows that some countries are better than other countries in some events. Thanks for stating the obvious. That was not the point of the thread starter. Try again.

Keep over analyzing. It doesn't change the fact that the best country, in any Olympiad, is the country that wins the most medals. Period.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 02:19:20 PM
So, I guess Kazakhstan is more successful at the olympics than Jamaica then  ::)

(5G-3S-1B vs. 1G-4S-5B)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: CQ on August 21, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
Well, I think all the athletes are great. Not to be super fruity, but even to get to the Olympics is a huge acccomplishment, and Bob Costas is pissing me right off acting like people who won silvers and bronzes "failed", to win an Olympic silver is great, to even make finals is great. No matter where you are from, or what event you do to be at that level is impressive..[discounting ghey stuff like "trap shooting" whatever that is]
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Ursus on August 21, 2008, 02:34:39 PM
when america sneezes europe catches the cold.

lots of surprises in this olympics. was enjoyable
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 02:36:12 PM
So, I guess Kazakhstan is more successful at the olympics than Jamaica then  ::)

(5G-3S-1B vs. 1G-4S-5B)

If they have more medals then they are. Only idiots like you and the buffoon, supreme being, would equate Olympic games to the average IQ of a nation's citizens.  Yet, to you that makes much more sense.

Maybe your just a nonathletic twink and you try to compensate for it by imagining yourself as some kind of guru.

You 2 idiots over analyze everything and come up with explanations straight out of your assholes.  LOL. I feel sorry for you 2 posers.

In the end, who cares about Jamaica, Kazakhstan. It only comes down to the big 3. USA, China and Russia, and USA STILL wipes the floor with them. Don't let your hate for USA blind you, Titus. If you are half as smart as you think you are then you would realize that USA is #1 in the world and just leave it at that.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 02:40:06 PM
If they have more medals then they are. Only idiots like you and the buffoon, supreme being, would equate Olympic games to the average IQ of a nation's citizens.  Yet, to you that makes much more sense.

Maybe your just a nonathletic twink and you try to compensate for it by imagining yourself as some kind of guru.

You 2 idiots over analyze everything and come up with explanations straight out of your assholes.  LOL. I feel sorry for you 2 posers.

In the end, who cares about Jamaica, Kazakhstan. It only comes down to the big 3. USA, China and Russia, and USA STILL wipes the floor with them. Don't let your hate for USA blind you, Titus. If you are half as smart as you think you are then you would realize that USA is #1 in the world and just leave it at that.

meltdown - mission accomplished  ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 02:50:08 PM
If they have more medals then they are. Only idiots like you and the buffoon, supreme being, would equate Olympic games to the average IQ of a nation's citizens.  Yet, to you that makes much more sense.
China still has higher IQ - just stating a fact. Just like I admitted Chinese are not physically as capable as americans. Yet another fact. Why does it bother you?

Maybe your just a nonathletic twink and you try to compensate for it by imagining yourself as some kind of guru.
Thanks for calling me guru, I never did. You shouldn't have, but I humbly accept it.

Don't let your hate for USA blind you, Titus. If you are half as smart as you think you are then you would realize that USA is #1 in the world and just leave it at that.

I don't hate U.S. -  when has stating obvious facts become "hating"? I think U.S. is a great country, and I visit U.S. few times a year. I'm just stating facts and the fact that many people here can't accept them is not my problem. U.S. is living in denial in so many ways anyways, it doesn't surprise me americans are so defensive every time anything negative is discussed.

What is U.S. number one exactly? National and military budget, yes. But let's not forget that the U.S. budget is a joke - a country about to go bankrupt. Military's a joke too, with friendly fire killing tons of soldiers and difficulty controlling two "military powers" such as Iraq and Afganistan.

Now China's kicking U.S. butt at the Olympics - hurts, doesn't it?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 02:51:00 PM
HAHAHHHAAH!!!!

China is supposedly smarter because they excel in gymnastics and hitting little balls with little paddles.

IQ level is completely a non-factor when the sport hinges on a judge's decision, i.e. gymnastics, diving, etc. Do you understand Titus? Damn retard.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
China is supposedly smarter because they excel in gymnastics and hitting little balls with little paddles.

They're smarter, no matter how you measure it. Thanks for playing. Come again.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 02:54:54 PM
They're smarter, no matter how you measure it. Thanks for playing. Come again.

Well, maybe.

But how do you meaure 'smarter'?

Overpopulating their country?

Committing unfathomable human right's injustices?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
But how do you meaure 'smarter'?
Overpopulating their country?
China is the 75th most densely populated country in the world. Far cry from most populated.

Committing unfathomable human right's injustices?
And this comes from someone who's country men are killed in Iraq while looking for weapons of mass destruction?  ::)

U.S. goverment has sent more than 4000 soldiers to death in Iraq. Of course many nicely brain washed. I guess that's better then.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:02:54 PM
China is the 75th most densely populated country in the world. Far cry from most populated.
And this comes from someone who's country men are killed in Iraq while looking for weapons of mass destruction?  ::)

1.3 billion. Better check your abacus

U.S. goverment has sent more than 4000 soldiers to death in Iraq. Of course many nicely brain washed. I guess that's better then.

Ummm, its a bit more complicated than that
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:05:14 PM
1.3 billion. Better check your abacus

DENSITY, you moron - not population  ;D  ;D  ;D

Ummm, its a bit more complicated than that

Yes, they want you to be confused. But deep inside you know I'm right.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:06:08 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:07:22 PM
DENSITY, you moron - not population  ;D  ;D  ;D

Yeah, yeah, I saw where you wrote 'dense'....still a clusterfuck over there, and if you think they are doing things right there, well....

Yes, they want you to be confused. But deep inside you know I'm right.

Hell no, I say fuck them....clean 'em out, boo-ya!

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 03:07:35 PM
HEHEHEEH!!

WHAT isn't the USA #1 in? If you asked that question Titus it would make it easier on your brain.

To deny that USA is the best country on the face of the earth is like trying to cover the sky with your hand.

Back to the topic, USA added 4 more medals.  China and rest of the world is tasting dust.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:12:03 PM
WHAT isn't the USA #1 in? If you asked that question Titus it would make it easier on your brain.

To deny that USA is the best country on the face of the earth is like trying to cover the sky with your hand.

No matter how you measure, U.S. is far from the top. Standard of living etc.

It's a bunch of suburbs that are rotting now due to mortgage crisis, high crime and gas prices. Epic denial of facing facts that prevail today and the future. 75% of americans don't even have a passport, so it's like having your nose in warm, wet dog shit and saying "nothing smells better than this!!" because they never even bother to try.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:14:29 PM
China = all drugs


Iggnorant quote here grasshopper. Please provide your evidence to back it up now.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: dario73 on August 21, 2008, 03:14:36 PM
USA is not perfect but still better than any nation out there.

Go ahead Titus.

Name a few nations that you consider better OVERALL than USA. Go ahead. If your honest, you won't find one.

Oh, I know the war in Iraq.  That's what you are going to bring up, right?

HEHEHEHE!!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:15:35 PM
Excellent point. They're power simply comes from being over-populated.

I mean, a 1 child limit per family  :-\
Wrong again.  Maybe you need to learn about the 1 child policey
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:17:05 PM
Name a few nations that you consider better OVERALL than USA. Go ahead. If your honest, you won't find one.

France, UK, Canada, Italy, Netherlands, Germany to start. Been to all of then.

Now, your turn to answer honestly: do you have a passport, and in unlikely case that you do, how many of the countries above have you visited lived in?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:18:02 PM
France, UK, Canada, Italy, Netherlands, Germany to start. Been to all of then.

Now, your turn to answer honestly: do you have a passport, and in unlikely case that you do, how many of the countries above have you visited lived in?

I have never left the US, don't wanna!
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:18:55 PM
Over 500 million people in China live on roughly $2 a week. But hey, the billions they dumped into the Olympics and the millions of dollars they spend every year to make sure a couple thousand athletes train 12 hours a day, eat the best food and live in the best homes sure goes real far when they win a few medals at the Olympics.

China implemented program 119 after 2000. They set out to target events that had multiple medal opportunities because they're hell bent on winning more medals than anyone else. All the training in the world and they still travel in the over all.

Maybe they should cheat more like they did with their women's gymnastics team. Hopefully they end up losing the 4 or so medals they won with them.
Good to see your still geting it all wrong
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Parker on August 21, 2008, 03:19:03 PM
China still has higher IQ - just stating a fact. Just like I admitted Chinese are not physically as capable as americans. Yet another fact. Why does it bother you?


Then that means that the S. Koreans have a higher IQ than the Chinese, because the S. Koreans own everybody when it comes to online game playing, and that takes more eye-hand coordination than most sports...plus the S. Koreans play video games day and night...

And no, most Chinese don't have higher IQ's, who would buy a BMW X5 knockoff, who would build a half Mercedes half BMW car, the Chinese, that's who...

Who would build a car (the Chinese Chery) that fails the car crash test horribly, folding like tin cans, yep, it takes a high IQ to do that, huh?

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:20:50 PM
I have never left the US, don't wanna!
Thankyou for explaining why you are so ignorrant to what happens in other countries.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:21:18 PM
I have never left the US, don't wanna!

Why am I not surprised...  ::)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
Thankyou for explaining why you are so ignorrant to what happens in other countries.

You are welcome.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:22:56 PM
Not in China. Truth is what their government tells you it is. And if you disagree, they kill you.
Man can you get it any more wrong. I can not beleive the ammout of crap you post that has no bacis of truth.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:23:16 PM
Why am I not surprised...  ::)

I am here to help you feel confident, young squire.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:24:40 PM
France, UK, Canada, Italy, Netherlands, Germany to start. Been to all of then.

Now, your turn to answer honestly: do you have a passport, and in unlikely case that you do, how many of the countries above have you visited lived in?

FRANCE?>


Bahahahaha
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:25:04 PM
Then that means that the S. Koreans have a higher IQ than the Chinese

that's correct
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:25:32 PM
Man can you get it any more wrong. I can not beleive the ammout of crap you post that has no bacis of truth.

Yes, those Chinese govt 'officials' are bloodthirsty.

Kill you for the drop of a hat.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:26:31 PM
that's correct

Let's see....where would I like to have surgery?

that's it, #22
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 21, 2008, 03:29:27 PM
Yes, those Chinese govt 'officials' are bloodthirsty.

Kill you for the drop of a hat.
Dude I couldn't be bothered with you or Berzerk clown any more. You have already acknowledged you have never left America, thus reinforcing the ignorance you spew about other cultures. Maybe you need to find out things for yourself rather than beleiving all the crap the Americian media feeds you fools. Your just another sad uneducated Americian.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
that's correct

Have you been seriously talking non-stop about how the Chinese average IQ is higher than the USA when in reality it's only 2 points higher? Meanwhile, most Americans, with their IQ of 98 instead of 100, don't live on $2 a day or eat horse shit to get by.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: suckmymuscle on August 21, 2008, 03:31:28 PM
China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds

  China is still a pseudo-communist state where children with athletic gifts are selected from birth and put on a Spartan regimen of training and drugs, with the specific purpose of winning gold at major ahletic competitions to show the strengh of the state. You can compare it to the USA, which is a free country where athletically gifted children have the option of pursuing their gifts or not, where athletes do not use drugs for the most part and don't have their bills taken are of by the government which allows them to do nothing but train all day long withut having to worry about supporting themselves. Apples and oranges.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:31:38 PM
Dude I couldn't be bothered with you or Berzerk clown any more. You have already acknowledged you have never left America, thus reinforcing the ignorance you spew about other cultures. Maybe you need to find out things for yourself rather than beleiving all the crap the Americian media feeds you fools. Your just another sad uneducated Americian.

Oz, take some sedatives.

You Chinese certainly have a handle on the dope over there, no?

Oh yeah, what happened to the 'minister' in charge of all the tainted pet food that came over here?

Was he not killed after one week?

Swift justice, you.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:32:21 PM
Let's see....where would I like to have surgery?

Prime example of failing objective thinking. Here's how "advanced" U.S. is  ::)

"The U.S. ranks 41st in a new analysis of maternal mortality rates in 171 countries released by a group of U.N. public health experts on Friday. The survey shows that even a developing country like South Korea is ahead of the United States."
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:33:47 PM
Have you been seriously talking non-stop about how the Chinese average IQ is higher than the USA when in reality it's only 2 points higher?

Did I ever say how much higher it is? Did I hurt your feelings?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 03:36:16 PM
Did I ever say how much higher it is? Did I hurt your feelings?

Why would it hurt my feelings? In the grand scheme of things, IQ is nothing more than a measure of one's potential intelligence. 40% or so of China lives in complete poverty. Would they rather have a 98 IQ if it meant they didn't have to bathe in the streets or eat rat? Sure, I can pretty much guarantee they would trade their 100 IQ for it.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:37:55 PM
Prime example of failing objective thinking. Here's how "advanced" U.S. is  ::)

"The U.S. ranks 41st in a new analysis of maternal mortality rates in 171 countries released by a group of U.N. public health experts on Friday. The survey shows that even a developing country like South Korea is ahead of the United States."

The UN

Is that the best you can do? The fucking UN? bahahahahaha
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:39:28 PM
Why would it hurt my feelings? In the grand scheme of things, IQ is nothing more than a measure of one's potential intelligence.
That's exactly what I've been saying all the time - because Chinese are more intelligent, they will slowly grow and surpass the U.S. but it takes time.

40% or so of China lives in complete poverty. Would they rather have a 98 IQ if it meant they didn't have to bathe in the streets or eat rat? Sure, I can pretty much guarantee they would trade their 100 IQ for it.
I agree. Makes sense.

But average chinese IQ is still higher.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:41:53 PM
Is that the best you can do? The fucking UN? bahahahahaha

Can you find me the correct stats if you think those are fake?

Thanks MousseGay
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 03:42:35 PM
That's exactly what I've been saying all the time - because Chinese are more intelligent, they will slowly grow and surpass the U.S. but it takes time.
I agree. Makes sense.

But average chinese IQ is still higher.


You're assuming that they will continue to grow and become more intelligent. On what basis? The fact that their average IQ is two points higher? That's a pretty big assumption. A lot of things can go wrong before that happens. Their government could collapse in a rebellion. World war could break out. Their economy could go into the shitter and collapse. Not to say they won't "surpass" the USA, but it's really nothing more than an assumption.

A two point higher IQ is pretty much negligible regardless.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:45:02 PM
Can you find me the correct stats if you think those are fake?

Thanks MousseGay

No, and I have no interest in finding any of your puppet 'stats'.

And you are lucky I have even acknowledged you this day.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:47:34 PM
Their economy could go into the shitter and collapse.

The difference is, their economy could collapse. However, U.S. economy collapsing is 10x more probably due to the insane debt they've built. As an example:

According to an article in MSNBC news updated April 6, 2008, the U.S. owes China 492 billion dollars.

Wow.. how come a mighty power such as U.S. get money from a poor country like China?  ???
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
No, and I have no interest in finding any of your puppet 'stats'.
And you are lucky I have even acknowledged you this day.

Maybe reality will bite when you get a nasty bacteria in one of your operations. Good luck, you need it.

And thank you so much for acknowledging me - you're a great man  :-*
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:49:33 PM
The difference is, their economy could collapse. However, U.S. economy collapsing is 10x more probably due to the insane debt they've built. As an example:

According to an article in MSNBC news updated April 6, 2008, the U.S. owes China 492 billion dollars.

Wow.. how come a mighty power such as U.S. get money from a poor country like China?  ???



psssssttttt.....hey, titus, shhhhhhh.....don't tell anybody

but


we ain't gonna pay 'em back 8)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Fury on August 21, 2008, 03:50:31 PM
The difference is, their economy could collapse. However, U.S. economy collapsing is 10x more probably due to the insane debt they've built. As an example:

According to an article in MSNBC news updated April 6, 2008, the U.S. owes China 492 billion dollars.

Wow.. how come a mighty power such as U.S. get money from a poor country like China?  ???


Your argument holds no water. A number of the countries ahead of China on the IQ list are not as technologically advanced or a number of other things compared to the USA. Yet, you think China, for whatever reason, is going to be the only country to do it, when they have a multitude of problems brewing down the road for them. You're just assuming, and you know what happens when you assume.


They'll never collect on the debts. We won't pay and they need our trade relations.  :D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:50:35 PM
Maybe reality will bite when you get a nasty bacteria in one of your operations. Good luck, you need it.

And thank you so much for acknowledging me - you're a great man  :-*

I have had septicemia AND a paralytic ileus...and still alive!

And thanks, I am.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:51:06 PM
we ain't gonna pay 'em back 8)

You obviously don't understand shit about foreign politics.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:52:12 PM
And thanks, I am.

Epic failure recognizing sarcasm. Not surprised...
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:53:30 PM
You obviously don't understand shit about foreign politics.

No.

YOU understand the shit.

I leave that to you,

King Titus, the "Shit Shovelor From Sheboygan" ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 03:54:06 PM
MousseGay, I ordered my butter chicken already 20 minutes ago, and you're still not  delivering it - what gives?  ???
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:55:30 PM
MousseGay, I ordered my butter chicken already 20 minutes ago, and you're still not  delivering it - what gives?  ???

I don't understand.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 03:58:34 PM
You obviously don't understand shit about foreign politics.

All we really need to know is that most of the world is medieval compared to the good, old US of A! ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:01:08 PM
is it true that bodybuilding was included at the 1984 Olympics? why did they remove it?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 04:01:20 PM
All we really need to know is that most of the world is medieval compared to the good, old US of A! ;D

ignorance is bliss, MousseGay
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:02:15 PM
ignorance is bliss, MousseGay

So how does it feel to be in eternal Ecstasy?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
So how does it feel to be in eternal Ecstasy?

You always talk to yourself?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:04:10 PM
You always talk to yourself?

Yes and I even argue with myself.

Its very therapeutic, friend.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 21, 2008, 04:05:19 PM
Yes and I even argue with myself.

Its very therapeutic, friend.

There are drugs for that. Ever considered taking some?

Mental health is a good thing. I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: First Blood on August 21, 2008, 04:06:32 PM
There are drugs for that. Ever considered taking some?

Mental health is a good thing. I highly recommend it.
are you craig titus? you should check out the other thread, they are talking bs about you.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:06:40 PM
There are drugs for that. Ever considered taking some?

Mental health is a good thing. I highly recommend it.

Unfortunately, I take many prescribed pain drugs these days.

Looking to clean out the systenm soon
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SUPREME BEING on August 21, 2008, 04:25:46 PM
All we really need to know is that most of the world is medieval compared to the good, old US of A! ;D

What do posts like this achieve - why do you have the need to demonstrate how powerful your Country is?

Just remember history has proven time and time again that no one nation can stay on top forever, it is this very untouchable attitude which leads to the downfall of many great nations.

Everything in nature acts as competing organisms. USA has been bloated for far too long and signs are beginning to show that other hungry, dedicated competitors are looking to take some of that fat the USA has been enjoying.

I love the US but the lack of IQ or intelligence is worrying, look at the idiot poster in this thread talking about medal count, Olympics is determined by winners e.g. Gold medals - no one cares much for 2nd place.
The Country was great and will still be great, but your capitalistic markets are beginning to show signs of Socialism as you bailout more and more weak companies ala Japan in the 90s and we all know how that ended.

It is good to love ones Country and to be proud of it but this constant need to show your superiority makes you look like a fool - how the fuck do you contribute anything great to your nation. Are you anybody special?? Nope just the average Joe clinging onto some dream that just because his Country is great that he is great.

Typical lack of intelligence and understanding of Economics, not even knowing that many states in the US cannot compete with most European Countries on most measures of standard of living.

As for China, why the hate - surely you guys should be happy that they are moving towards capitalism. It will obviously take time for things to change to a real democracy over there, but i can guarantee as the population keeps receiving high quality of education from the West things will change in China.

Human capital is the most important resource over time, and more and more top students will continue to go back home and set up new businesses. As for spending on the Olympic, this is often very good idea to regenerate an Economy with massive fiscal budget - often always leads to a bubble however with high inflation but you fail to recognise that the Country has caught the attention of many large companies and foreign investment. These companies will look for value when the bubble breaks and things get back to a more invest-able level.

I am an investor / trader but if you asked where i would put my long term investments for the next 30 years you can be damn sure it will not be the US. India is my most attractive prospect with its large middle class and huge surge in billionaires - all will add to more and more investment and self made entrepreneurs in that Country. China is a close 2nd after i see some more reform towards a democracy.

Moosejay you are typifying the average American and demonstrating that you lack any class.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: technokc on August 21, 2008, 04:33:48 PM
I have had septicemia AND a paralytic ileus...and still alive!

And thanks, I am.


Really?  You get fed through a tube?

I find it hard to believe that with the money you make Moosey that you never been out of the country.  Is there a specific reason behind this?


. . . . and by the way dog is a mighty fine meal!  ;)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:36:19 PM
What do posts like this achieve - why do you have the need to demonstrate how powerful your Country is?

They achieve long boring posts from you!

Just remember history has proven time and time again that no one nation can stay on top forever, it is this very untouchable attitude which leads to the downfall of many great nations.

Everything in nature acts as competing organisms. USA has been bloated for far too long and signs are beginning to show that other hungry, dedicated competitors are looking to take some of that fat the USA has been enjoying.

Well line 'em up, bra!

I love the US but the lack of IQ or intelligence is worrying, look at the idiot poster in this thread talking about medal count, Olympics is determined by winners e.g. Gold medals - no one cares much for 2nd place.
The Country was great and will still be great, but your capitalistic markets are beginning to show signs of Socialism as you bailout more and more weak companies ala Japan in the 90s and we all know how that ended.

There are many, many capitalists here such as me. And forget the IQ shit....that shit means nothing in the real world where I operate...that's all "woulda, coulda shit

It is good to love ones Country and to be proud of it but this constant need to show your superiority makes you look like a fool - how the fuck do you contribute anything great to your nation. Are you anybody special?? Nope just the average Joe clinging onto some dream that just because his Country is great that he is great.

I am a business owner and have helped thousands over my career....soimethging you could NEVER do in your shithole country.
Typical lack of intelligence and understanding of Economics, not even knowing that many states in the US cannot compete with most European Countries on most measures of standard of living.

We have accomplished in 200 years what they are still trying to do for THOUSANDS...do the math, Galileo

As for China, why the hate - surely you guys should be happy that they are moving towards capitalism. It will obviously take time for things to change to a real democracy over there, but i can guarantee as the population keeps receiving high quality of education from the West things will change in China.

Ummm....see: Humanitarian atrocities

Human capital is the most important resource over time, and more and more top students will continue to go back home and set up new businesses. As for spending on the Olympic, this is often very good idea to regenerate an Economy with massive fiscal budget - often always leads to a bubble however with high inflation but you fail to recognise that the Country has caught the attention of many large companies and foreign investment. These companies will look for value when the bubble breaks and things get back to a more invest-able level.

I am an investor / trader but if you asked where i would put my long term investments for the next 30 years you can be damn sure it will not be the US. India is my most attractive prospect with its large middle class and huge surge in billionaires - all will add to more and more investment and self made entrepreneurs in that Country. China is a close 2nd after i see some more reform towards a democracy.

Good luck with that

Moosejay you are typifying the average American and demonstrating that you lack any class.

And you are demonstrating prejudice and intolerance in any divergent thinking other than your own. Chew on that, tovarisch.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:38:20 PM

Really?  You get fed through a tube?

No....Had to wait till bowel started up...IV only for 3c weeks

I find it hard to believe that with the money you make Moosey that you never been out of the country.  Is there a specific reason behind this?

I work so much I am one of those guys who never makes the time...I will take my parents to Italy next year


. . . . and by the way dog is a mighty fine meal!  ;)

Ha-Mel Gibson, The Patriot
[/b]
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Camel Jockey on August 21, 2008, 04:39:37 PM
are you craig titus? you should check out the other thread, they are talking bs about you.

LOL awesome gimmick.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: SUPREME BEING on August 21, 2008, 04:42:06 PM
I am done replying to you Moosejay, if only you would open your eyes and start using some intellect you will see how ridiculous and outrageous your boastful claims come across to other readers.

I am not willing to waste my time replying to a patriotic moron with lack of sense or reasoning - it is clear you are hard headed and therefore unwilling to take on any meaningful debate.

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 04:44:40 PM
I am done replying to you Moosejay, if only you would open your eyes and start using some intellect you will see how ridiculous and outrageous your boastful claims come across to other readers.

I am not willing to waste my time replying to a patriotic moron with lack of sense or reasoning - it is clear you are hard headed and therefore unwilling to take on any meaningful debate.



okay "Supreme Being"

Lots of "meaningful debate" with one with such a moniker, goofaronus.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: tommywishbone on August 21, 2008, 07:10:44 PM

"Hmmmm, it's a bit more complicated than that."


 ;D ;D That is exactly what one of my old defense attorneys would say to the jury when he was preparing to tell a lie. Exactly.

 ;) Thanks for the memories (I won that case).
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 21, 2008, 07:32:48 PM
"Hmmmm, it's a bit more complicated than that."


 ;D ;D That is exactly what one of my old defense attorneys would say to the jury when he was preparing to tell a lie. Exactly.

 ;) Thanks for the memories (I won that case).

attorneys lie?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: tommywishbone on August 21, 2008, 07:53:10 PM
attorneys lie?

 ;D ;D From time-to-time.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 22, 2008, 06:10:05 AM
I am done replying to you Moosejay, if only you would open your eyes and start using some intellect you will see how ridiculous and outrageous your boastful claims come across to other readers.

I am not willing to waste my time replying to a patriotic moron with lack of sense or reasoning - it is clear you are hard headed and therefore unwilling to take on any meaningful debate.


Wow good see some one else feels the same way I do.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Top Dog on August 22, 2008, 08:09:55 AM
This is all so ridiculous. You can formulate your argument any way you want. It's all so subjective. On the one hand Titus is just showing hate and envy towards the U.S. when in fact he knows that IN GENERAL there is no better country to live, prosper, fulfill your dreams, than the U.S. There are other great countries out there but I think everyone knows the deal. You can bash the economy now because it's in t trough but when on all cylinders there is no better and the way the US economy goes, so follows the rest of the world. Moosejay isn't putting up much of a debate but in fairness to him, he just doesn't have the hate in his responses that Titus does. Who cares, everyone from all over the world is crawling over each other to get here so much that we need to slow it down. Why is that? I think that answers a lot.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: CQ on August 22, 2008, 08:21:12 AM
This is all so ridiculous. You can formulate your argument any way you want. It's all so subjective. On the one hand Titus is just showing hate and envy towards the U.S. when in fact he knows that IN GENERAL there is no better country to live, prosper, fulfill your dreams, than the U.S. There are other great countries out there but I think everyone knows the deal. You can bash the economy now because it's in t trough but when on all cylinders there is no better and the way the US economy goes, so follows the rest of the world. Moosejay isn't putting up much of a debate but in fairness to him, he just doesn't have the hate in his responses that Titus does. Who cares, everyone from all over the world is crawling over each other to get here so much that we need to slow it down. Why is that? I think that answers a lot.

Everyone is crawling to get into the USA sure. The Brits, French, Australians, Caymanians, Emirates etc will tell you the same. Just about all economic strong nations have immigrants trying to get in, and all have huge problems. USA is not alone in that and anyone who thinks so obviously is unaware of world affairs.

You may think you nation is best, great. It is a great nation. I adore mine. Canada is great. Australia is fantastic. Numerous European nations are great. New Zealand is strong. They are all different. US offers many things other nations don't, while other nations offer things USA doesn't, free health, free college, zero income tax, lower crime etc.

All the first world nations are great and you can prosper in all of them. All the 3rd world nationals try to immigrate to them. The best nation comes down to opinion. I've traveled the world and seen much great nations, and some sad nations. The difference is between 1st world and 3rd.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: titusisback on August 22, 2008, 11:55:10 AM
On the one hand Titus is just showing hate and envy towards the U.S. when in fact he knows that IN GENERAL there is no better country to live, prosper, fulfill your dreams, than the U.S.

I'm not hating U.S., I said it's a great place to visit. I state some unpleasant facts about U.S., that's not hating. But as I said, U.S. as a nation is in massive state of denial. I have many good american friends, so just to spell it out: U.S. is a good country, and has lots of good people, but is heading to a terrible direction.

I live in Canada and own real estate here. Trust me when I say I'm really glad I own it in Canada instead of U.S. Moose on the other hand fails to recognize some very fundamental facts. When I present UN stats, he ridicules it.

How about this one from CIA. Hint: check 1st and last positions
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: noc on August 27, 2008, 06:13:49 AM
The funniest thing about the Olympics was that only the American media outlets had them as 'TOP' as they won more medals overall while the rest of the world had China as number one as.... well you know, they had the most gold medals  ::)

Not like America to be blind in its patriotism, is it?   ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: gettingbetter on August 27, 2008, 06:20:31 AM
shit, really??

being canadian that makes me smile   ;D



Yeah but both Ethipia and Kenya got more medals than us Canadian wich puts things into perspective.

Emilie Heymans still has got the sexiest body in the world though...
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 06:26:55 AM
This is all so ridiculous. You can formulate your argument any way you want. It's all so subjective. On the one hand Titus is just showing hate and envy towards the U.S. when in fact he knows that IN GENERAL there is no better country to live, prosper, fulfill your dreams, than the U.S. There are other great countries out there but I think everyone knows the deal. You can bash the economy now because it's in t trough but when on all cylinders there is no better and the way the US economy goes, so follows the rest of the world. Moosejay isn't putting up much of a debate but in fairness to him, he just doesn't have the hate in his responses that Titus does. Who cares, everyone from all over the world is crawling over each other to get here so much that we need to slow it down. Why is that? I think that answers a lot.

Good post.

And yes, I have never been out of the country, and don't pay much attention to what goes on out yonder.

I concentrate on HERE.

I try to get things DONE, HERE.

I never try to have hate. I really get along with everybody.

But facts are facts.

The US economy, will, indeed, again be on all cyliders...everything is cyclic.

I love it here. Maybe I'd love other places.

Never been.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 06:28:34 AM
Everyone is crawling to get into the USA sure. The Brits, French, Australians, Caymanians, Emirates etc will tell you the same. Just about all economic strong nations have immigrants trying to get in, and all have huge problems. USA is not alone in that and anyone who thinks so obviously is unaware of world affairs.

You may think you nation is best, great. It is a great nation. I adore mine. Canada is great. Australia is fantastic. Numerous European nations are great. New Zealand is strong. They are all different. US offers many things other nations don't, while other nations offer things USA doesn't, free health, free college, zero income tax, lower crime etc.

All the first world nations are great and you can prosper in all of them. All the 3rd world nationals try to immigrate to them. The best nation comes down to opinion. I've traveled the world and seen much great nations, and some sad nations. The difference is between 1st world and 3rd.

Please tell us, mathematically, how the emboldened words up top are accomplished. Thru Voodoo? ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 06:29:29 AM
The funniest thing about the Olympics was that only the American media outlets had them as 'TOP' as they won more medals overall while the rest of the world had China as number one as.... well you know, they had the most gold medals  ::)

Not like America to be blind in its patriotism, is it?   ;D

Not that the rest of the world casts their sorry eyes at us in envy? ;)
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 06:31:48 AM
I'm not hating U.S., I said it's a great place to visit. I state some unpleasant facts about U.S., that's not hating. But as I said, U.S. as a nation is in massive state of denial. I have many good american friends, so just to spell it out: U.S. is a good country, and has lots of good people, but is heading to a terrible direction.

I live in Canada and own real estate here. Trust me when I say I'm really glad I own it in Canada instead of U.S. Moose on the other hand fails to recognize some very fundamental facts. When I present UN stats, he ridicules it.

How about this one from CIA. Hint: check 1st and last positions
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2187rank.html

I ridicule nothing.

I am an example that is contrary to your example.

Since I have succeeded wildly here, own outright three very large real estate parcels, you must think you are less than me because you aver that you cannot do it here.

I did it much the while being disabled, physically.

I have.

Why not you?

Seriously think about that.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: gettingbetter on August 27, 2008, 06:35:56 AM
Fact is, the U.S. is in way worst shape now than it was 8 years ago. You've had terrible leadership the past few years. Even your Donald Trump has said as much on Letterman.

Chinas whooped our asses in the olympics.

Chinas is growing faster than you are.

Canadian dollar is worth as much as yours.

your debt is growing while your income is shrinking (war expenses and tax cut for higher income)

Your health care SUCKS big time (7 million people don't have insurance)

Your culture is being copied and improved by foreigners.

Your fighting an aggression war on Iraq and you will not win it.

Gas has never been more expensive and you have ZERO initiative for alternative energy source.

Global warming is showing it's ugly head and you're in now way leaders in this field although you could easily become the greatest economic power by investing a little in your R and D on those field instead of building tanks and bombs.

I sincerly hope things get better for both our countries well being and I really have great expectation for the Obama Fellow, he seems to be the guy to turn things around while there is still time.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 06:43:42 AM
Fact is, the U.S. is in way worst shape now than it was 8 years ago. You've had terrible leadership the past few years. Even your Donald Trump has said as much on Letterman.

Chinas whooped our asses in the olympics.

No

Chinas is growing faster than you are.

They will crumble like a fortune cookie in several years....look for their countrymen to revolt against their corrupt 'government'...wouldn't you?

Canadian dollar is worth as much as yours.

Just wait, be patient

your debt is growing while your income is shrinking (war expenses and tax cut for higher income)

We do what is necessary while the rest of the world dips their toes in our swirling pool of discontent...that is why we are the world leader, score ALL the touchdowns, while the world is our waterboy

Your health care SUCKS big time (7 million people don't have insurance)

25 million don't have healthcare...tovarisch, and I pay for my own and my staff....I have had over 300 k in healthcare bills...NEVER paid a penny....AND, when we have surgery HERE, the docs use clean, sterile technique, we wake up from anesthesia, the list goes on and on...yeah, I am gonna go to Healthcare in Calcutta...jackass! ;D...by the way, I am a leader in healthcare AND HAVE NEVER TURNED ONE PATIENT AWAY!

Your culture is being copied and improved by foreigners.

The one that allowed us to pass cultuers that have existed for thousands of years in 200. I don't blame them for TRYING.

Your fighting an aggression war on Iraq and you will not win it.

Eventaully, we WILL have to turn one of those countries into glass, regrettably

Gas has never been more expensive and you have ZERO initiative for alternative energy source.

Its going down

Global warming is showing it's ugly head and you're in now way leaders in this field although you could easily become the greatest economic power by investing a little in your R and D on those field instead of building tanks and bombs.

Myth, lemme intro you to Santa

I sincerly hope things get better for both our countries well being and I really have great expectation for the Obama Fellow, he seems to be the guy to turn things around while there is still time.

McCain
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 27, 2008, 07:06:41 AM
who cares, really.  we're talking about games here.  Russia used the distraction to invade a soverign nation.

Most important post here, by far.

Well said, robert
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: gettingbetter on August 27, 2008, 07:23:06 AM




your "answer" is EXACTLY why this country is in deep shyt! You're so CERTAIN of you're greatness that you refuse to grow, to learn, to become better. Rome, Babylon, the Macedonians, the Huns, the german have ALL done the same just before they crumbled.

You've lost your KAIZEN, the will to become better everyday while the rest of the world still has got that DRIVE to become better.
It's pathetic really...
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: noc on August 27, 2008, 09:36:44 AM
Most important post here, by far.

Well said, robert

Brutal irony for an American to question another countries motives for invading.

Hahahahahahaahhaha too funny.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: GreatFinn on August 28, 2008, 02:05:57 PM
Well, maybe.

But how do you measure 'smarter'?

Overpopulating their country?

Committing unfathomable human right's injustices?

As an american, you shouldn't make any remarks about human rights, because your own country is a great example when it comes to oppress racial or economical minority's. Don't forget that you live in the most racist country in the world, where black people doesn't have equal rights even this day.  Chinese have their faults, but even so they kick your ass in many ways, not only in olympics. They have higher average IQ, meaning that in similar tests than americans, they score higher points, they have better average mathematics skills, meaning that in similar tests than americans, they score higher points. You can find all of that from the internet, so don't take my word for it, but look at yourself. There is many statistic made by objective international organisations which prove all this and many other things.

When you use a computer, do you know where it has been made? Just about 80% of computer electronics in the world is made in china/asian countries, no matter which brand or type your computer is, so you could say that they have a quite good lead compared to USA. What you have equally important to the modern world? Smith & Wesson, Colt, Remington etc.? Zippo? General Motors? Coca Cola, Big Mac...They own their shares even all those. They are on the leading edge of technology, and they have a manpower to stay there, so it is better to not underestimate them.

I have been in China few times, it is nice place to be on vacation. People are very friendly and hospitality is up on the different level than it is in america. They are your friends, not ass kissers like americans, they share everything with you, not just talking bullshit chit chat like you guys. Wonderful country, even with its faults. I don't use package tours, I just fly there and wonder around few months, living in village motels or as a house quest of some local family. When guy like me, who is finnish and quite big, travels there, there is no troubles what so ever. People come talk to me on the streets, they tell about their life, and when I told them I'm from Finland, they know all about Mika Häkkinen, Kimi Räikkönen, our olympic champions, and some of them knows even Riku Kiri and Jouko Ahola. Nice country, beautiful girls, nice people. Their government and communistic system is a pain in the ass, but it is somewhat necessary in country like that, where third of the people lives houses which has plain ground floors. When they get their systems up and running for democracy, and that isn't very far, that will be something to see for americans and a rest of the world.

You have Iran, Afganistan, and numerous wars in your history, filled with unfathomable injustices, so which way you are better? You don't kill your own citizens like they do? Well, you ship them to some foreign country to be killed "fighting for their country" like in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Iran and Afganistan, and if that isn't enough, you have 80000 gun related deaths each year in your own country. They have tibet, you have cuba(another nice country, and I love their cigars). They don't like tibet any more than you like cuba, so what is the difference? You both are an assholes what comes to that.

And talking about the overpopulating? Just for example, do you know how much teen age pregnancies has been growing in the USA on this century? China has been there quite while, in fact it as documented in ancient writings, dates back some 3,300 years, while your country is few hundred years old, so they has been some time to populate their country. They have been there 3300 years, they have been a civilisation long before that time when first europeans came down from the trees, and then there was great gap, which end when some europeans came up with a bright idea to send some left over shit overseas to populate the new country which Columbus has found. In few hundred years your population has grown up to 270 millions, and you are talking about overpopulating of china? Just count how much your population will be in next hundred years, if it grows steadily, and shut the fu*ck up...
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: onlyme on August 28, 2008, 02:21:30 PM
China pays there athletes for getting gold medals.  When I was in Hong Kong about a year out from the 96 Olympics they had ads by local millionaires who whomever offering huge prize money for athletes who won gold medals
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Ursus on August 28, 2008, 02:29:27 PM
Good olympics. missed a lot of weightlifting and mens gymnastics.

Ill remember it for Usain Bolt, sacramone, natalia dobrinska, isinbeyeva.

I dont care much for swimming
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 28, 2008, 04:07:45 PM
China pays there athletes for getting gold medals.  When I was in Hong Kong about a year out from the 96 Olympics they had ads by local millionaires who whomever offering huge prize money for athletes who won gold medals
They are paid by the state to be an athlete. It is their full time job up untill the time the state decides they are no longer competitive. Depending on the atheletes success, they will them be offered a government job. Those not successfulwill have to find their own way. The sports system in China is very structured and quite interesting as to how what is allowed.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 28, 2008, 04:14:58 PM


your "answer" is EXACTLY why this country is in deep shyt! You're so CERTAIN of you're greatness that you refuse to grow, to learn, to become better. Rome, Babylon, the Macedonians, the Huns, the german have ALL done the same just before they crumbled.

You've lost your KAIZEN, the will to become better everyday while the rest of the world still has got that DRIVE to become better.
It's pathetic really...

Just read my post history
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 28, 2008, 04:17:30 PM
As an american, you shouldn't make any remarks about human rights, because your own country is a great example when it comes to oppress racial or economical minority's. Don't forget that you live in the most racist country in the world, where black people doesn't have equal rights even this day.  Chinese have their faults, but even so they kick your ass in many ways, not only in olympics. They have higher average IQ, meaning that in similar tests than americans, they score higher points, they have better average mathematics skills, meaning that in similar tests than americans, they score higher points. You can find all of that from the internet, so don't take my word for it, but look at yourself. There is many statistic made by objective international organisations which prove all this and many other things.

When you use a computer, do you know where it has been made? Just about 80% of computer electronics in the world is made in china/asian countries, no matter which brand or type your computer is, so you could say that they have a quite good lead compared to USA. What you have equally important to the modern world? Smith & Wesson, Colt, Remington etc.? Zippo? General Motors? Coca Cola, Big Mac...They own their shares even all those. They are on the leading edge of technology, and they have a manpower to stay there, so it is better to not underestimate them.

I have been in China few times, it is nice place to be on vacation. People are very friendly and hospitality is up on the different level than it is in america. They are your friends, not ass kissers like americans, they share everything with you, not just talking bullshit chit chat like you guys. Wonderful country, even with its faults. I don't use package tours, I just fly there and wonder around few months, living in village motels or as a house quest of some local family. When guy like me, who is finnish and quite big, travels there, there is no troubles what so ever. People come talk to me on the streets, they tell about their life, and when I told them I'm from Finland, they know all about Mika Häkkinen, Kimi Räikkönen, our olympic champions, and some of them knows even Riku Kiri and Jouko Ahola. Nice country, beautiful girls, nice people. Their government and communistic system is a pain in the ass, but it is somewhat necessary in country like that, where third of the people lives houses which has plain ground floors. When they get their systems up and running for democracy, and that isn't very far, that will be something to see for americans and a rest of the world.

You have Iran, Afganistan, and numerous wars in your history, filled with unfathomable injustices, so which way you are better? You don't kill your own citizens like they do? Well, you ship them to some foreign country to be killed "fighting for their country" like in Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Iran and Afganistan, and if that isn't enough, you have 80000 gun related deaths each year in your own country. They have tibet, you have cuba(another nice country, and I love their cigars). They don't like tibet any more than you like cuba, so what is the difference? You both are an assholes what comes to that.

And talking about the overpopulating? Just for example, do you know how much teen age pregnancies has been growing in the USA on this century? China has been there quite while, in fact it as documented in ancient writings, dates back some 3,300 years, while your country is few hundred years old, so they has been some time to populate their country. They have been there 3300 years, they have been a civilisation long before that time when first europeans came down from the trees, and then there was great gap, which end when some europeans came up with a bright idea to send some left over shit overseas to populate the new country which Columbus has found. In few hundred years your population has grown up to 270 millions, and you are talking about overpopulating of china? Just count how much your population will be in next hundred years, if it grows steadily, and shut the fu*ck up...

Didn't read your post, but I am assuming, that in your shithole country, the sun never shines....so sad. Why even get out of bed, fatso?
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: noc on August 28, 2008, 05:23:37 PM
Didn't read your post, but I am assuming, that in your shithole country, the sun never shines....so sad. Why even get out of bed, fatso?

Translation = Someone who has English as their second/third language just completely destroyed me. I have no response. I did read his post in awe. Quickly, spit out a generic 'insult'. I win!  ::) 
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 28, 2008, 05:27:42 PM
Translation = Someone who has English as their second/third language just completely destroyed me. I have no response. I did read his post in awe. Quickly, spit out a generic 'insult'. I win!  ::) 

I did not read it. No winners, toothless, moribund misanthrope.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: VY_BUFF on August 29, 2008, 02:11:27 PM
China is dominating? LOL!!! 
 
                             Gold  Silver  Bronze     TOTAL
1.     United States     29    34       32           95 
2.     China                46    15       22           83

The most important number is the total in medals. About half the gold medals China has are from sports that require judges.  Being the home country, I am surprised they don't have more judges in their pockets. 

USA track and field is criticized, yet how many medals does China have in that sport?

List of total medals in track and field:

                    Gold  Silver   Bronze    Total
1. USA             4       8        8           20
2. Russia          5       2        3           10
3. Jamaica        5       3        1            9
CHINA              0       0        2            2




If you have really competed in anything before, you would know full well that silver medallists are NOT happy to get the silver, but extremely devasted that they lost the gold.  People go to the Olympics to represent their country and to show the world they are the BEST in their discipline. 

Last time I checked, getting silver and bronze didn't mean you were the best at anything.

CHINA WON the Olympics!  Hands Down!



Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 02:13:11 PM

If you have really competed in anything before, you would know full well that silver medallists are NOT happy to get the silver, but extremely devasted that they lost the gold.  People go to the Olympics to represent their country and to show the world they are the BEST in their discipline. 

Last time I checked, getting silver and bronze didn't mean you were the best at anything.

CHINA WON the Olympics!  Hands Down!


Hmmm.

Now that the Olympics have gone from China

What, then

Is China exulting over

Now? ;)



Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: VY_BUFF on August 29, 2008, 02:28:36 PM
also add baseball and softball to that, we will pass them for gold medals. haha all the resources, effort and drugs pumped into the chinese olympic athletes could not overcome their inferior oriental genetics for athleticism


The reason the US has the best athletes is because of slavery and their capitalistic approach to sports.
200 yrs of slavery trying to create the strongest and fastest African American worker, gives the US a huge genetic advantage.
US gold medals = Black guys, Michael Phelps and those two female gymnasts.

Could you image if China and their 1.3 billion population were breeding their offsprings with only athletic superiority in mind?

CHINA will continue to win the most golds at the Olympics. 
Their genetic pool is just too big.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 29, 2008, 02:30:06 PM

The reason the US has the best athletes is because of slavery and their capitalistic approach to sports.
200 yrs of slavery trying to create the strongest and fastest African American worker, gives the US a huge genetic advantage.
US gold medals = Black guys, Michael Phelps and those two female gymnasts.

Could you image if China and their 1.3 billion population were breeding their offsprings with only athletic superiority in mind?

CHINA will continue to win the most golds at the Olympics. 
Their genetic pool is just too big.
'
The people will eventually revolt.

Wouldn't you?

'China' will crumble like a fortune cookie.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: VY_BUFF on August 29, 2008, 03:29:19 PM
'
The people will eventually revolt.

Wouldn't you?

'China' will crumble like a fortune cookie.


China will eventually switch over to democracy.
This will only benefit them.
no revolt is necessary.

how is China really different than the US?
They favor the rich and dont care about the poor.
New Orleans was just sick on USA's part.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 29, 2008, 09:08:33 PM

China will eventually switch over to democracy.

Not anytime soon. Go back 1000 years and what kind of government did they have?


This will only benefit them.
no revolt is necessary.

Actually, the current situation seems to work well for the ruling class there (the Communist Party). I do lots of business with the Chinese and in my daily communications you always see  an underlying fear of the government.

how is China really different than the US?
They favor the rich and dont care about the poor.

Every culture behaves this way. Go to France, Australia, Canada, anywhere. Money and power always win.


New Orleans was just sick on USA's part.

What? Now the federal government is responsible for 1) hurricanes and 2) instructing a STATE to take precautions? The state has to request the aid of the federal government first. That's why its called the "UNITED STATES" of America. And if you have been to New Orleans, you scratch your head as to why anyone would live there, in regards to storms. The city is below sea level. If you drive across the state of Louisiana, at the southern end, you will observe that most of the roads are on elevated bridges. So after a while you would think common sense would prevail and people would not live in a massive floodplain. But it's a free country and people can choose to live where they want. But don't expect me, a US taxpayer, to want to keep bailing these people out who won't recognize the obvious.

Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Hypertrophy on August 29, 2008, 09:17:10 PM

If you have really competed in anything before, you would know full well that silver medallists are NOT happy to get the silver, but extremely devasted that they lost the gold.  People go to the Olympics to represent their country and to show the world they are the BEST in their discipline. 

Last time I checked, getting silver and bronze didn't mean you were the best at anything.

CHINA WON the Olympics!  Hands Down!



I have competed, and still do, as a bicycle racer. I am quite happy to get a silver medal in the state road race championships. So I didn't get gold. The other guy was better. But I am still 2nd best, and beat a lot of other people. Devastation? Huh?

Now silver or bronze at the Olympics doesn't mean you were the best at anything? Do you actually know anyone who was good enough to get a silver medal or bronze medal in the Olympics?  I do. I am good friends with Steve Bauer, the Canadian silver medalist in cycling in LA. He told me that although he was disappointed at not getting gold, the silver medal was a dream.

And what did China win? (or any other country that leads in Olympic Gold medals)?  I hope their people are ecstatic and have great pride. But at the end of the day, people go back to work and lead their lives. It's still the Olympic GAMES. Not the Olympic "WORLD WAR". Nobody dies because they lost.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Cardfan on August 29, 2008, 09:24:26 PM
whoa. I'm going to Fiesta... and when I get back.... none of you motherfuckers better be here.
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 30, 2008, 03:15:56 AM

China will eventually switch over to democracy.
This will only benefit them.
no revolt is necessary.

how is China really different than the US?
They favor the rich and dont care about the poor.
New Orleans was just sick on USA's part.
If you truely beleive China will switch to democracy you are kidding yourself. I have yet to speak to a Chinese person who is not happy with what the current system in the country
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 03:28:30 AM
If you truely beleive China will switch to democracy you are kidding yourself. I have yet to speak to a Chinese person who is not happy with what the current system in the country

C'mon man...at 2 bucks per day? Maybe they don't know any better
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Michaeloz on August 30, 2008, 04:27:45 AM
Cost of living is relatively low. ;D
Title: Re: China... 45 Golds...USA ..27 Golds
Post by: Moosejay on August 30, 2008, 07:50:22 AM
Cost of living is relatively low. ;D

Yeah, but, ahh, all Hell.......