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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1675 on: June 05, 2011, 02:30:02 PM »
And you are to stubborn to accept that I am right about this. 










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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1676 on: June 05, 2011, 06:01:54 PM »
Well he has about 1 year to change the constitution and redefine our nation as communists.

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« Reply #1677 on: June 05, 2011, 06:06:36 PM »
Well he has about 1 year to change the constitution and redefine our nation as communists.

Its not about that.   He is trying to collapse the capitialist system to where we have a majority of citizens on welfare, govt handouts, programs etc so that they will beg fo socialism and otherwise and that that fundamental nature of the country is changed from a free enterprise, life liberty and the pursuit of happieness of the individual is no longer the focus.   Instead, the focus will be on the "collective" and how they can continually make decisions for your life and redistribute your wealth in ways you have zero control over and order your life according to some crazy progressive NWO twilight zone. 

Its not an event, its a process.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1678 on: June 05, 2011, 06:13:51 PM »
Why is Obama's name different on passport? Doesn't match birth records released
WND ^ | June 2, 2011 | Jerome Corsi





In this era of tight airport security, the Transportation Safety Administration typically will not allow a passenger to board an airplane if the name printed on the ticket differs from the way it appears on government-issued identification.

Now that the White House has released President Obama's purported long-form birth certificate, a question arises as to why the name on that document does not match the name on his State Department passport.



This matched how his name was listed on the short-form Certification of Live Birth released during the 2008 presidential campaign, as first presented by DailyKos.com June 12, 2008:



Below is a close-up screen-capture of Obama's passport taken from the White House website:



Note that Obama’s name on his passport is listed as "Barack Hussein Obama," without the "II" the Hawaii documents list to indicate Obama was named after his father.

As seen below, U.S. State Department passport regulations require first-time applicants to submit an embossed birth certificate, complete with registrar's stamp, that lists the applicant's full name.


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« Reply #1679 on: June 06, 2011, 07:11:02 PM »
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Documents show marriage of Obama's parents a sham
WND ^ | June 06, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on June 6, 2011 9:28:18 PM EDT by RobinMasters

The recently released immigration file for Barack Obama Sr. indicates the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service had doubts he and Obama's mother were married.

While Ann Dunham may have sought Obama Sr. as her husband and the father of her child, the record suggests the two never lived together as a married couple.

As WND reported, there's no record of Ann Dunham's whereabouts during the last six months of her pregnancy.

Moreover, within weeks of the baby's birth, Dunham left Honolulu with her infant son and traveled to Seattle, where she enrolled in night courses at the University of Washington. She did not return to Honolulu until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in September 1962 to attend graduate courses at Harvard.

The INS file shows that Barack Obama Sr. was not faithful to Dunham, even when the two were in Hawaii at the same time.

Instead, the documentation supports the conclusion that Obama Sr. and Dunham took part in a sham marriage that the Kenyan student thought might help him extend his visa and remain in the United States to continue his education.

Economic necessity and his desire to complete his studies as soon as possible forced Obama Sr. to remain in Honolulu during the summer months, both to take summer classes and to work part-time.

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« Reply #1680 on: June 07, 2011, 07:17:58 PM »
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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on June 7, 2011 9:45:09 PM EDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1681 on: June 07, 2011, 07:47:07 PM »
U guys are all really big fucking losers

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1682 on: June 07, 2011, 08:01:38 PM »
U guys are all really big fucking losers


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Why did Obama release electronic birth certificate?
WND ^ | June 06, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi
Posted on June 7, 2011 11:08:11 PM EDT by RobinMasters

NEW YORK – The White House's release of an electronic copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate instead of a certified paper copy raises questions in a 22-page criminal complaint with the FBI filed by an international expert in scanners and document-imaging software.

Doug Vogt's complaint charges that individuals within the Hawaii Department of Health, Obama political operatives and an unidentified graphic artist worked in a multi-state conspiracy to create a fraudulent long-form birth certificate for Barack Obama.

Vogt's complaint asserts: "I have irrefutably proven that the Certificate of Live Birth that President Obama presented to the world on April 27, 2011 is a fraudulently created document put together using the Adobe Photoshop or Illustrator programs."

He claims the long-form birth certificate the White House released April 27 as an electronic document in PDF format was forged from a composite of legitimate birth certificates obtained from the Hawaii DOH archives and manipulated to replace the original information with a fraudulent Obama birth record.

The birth certificate the White House released consists of an electronic file that when opened as a PDF file in Adobe Illustrator reveals nine different layers that corresponded to different sections of the form, including the signatures.

"I also opened up the White House PDF file in WordPad so I could see the codes and headers in the file. There I discovered the evidence for the nine layers embedded in the code," Vogt writes. "The big surprise I discovered was that the file was finished or created on April 27, 2011, and the copy I had downloaded from the White House web site was modified on April 28, 2011, at 9:58 a.m., the day after the news conference."

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1683 on: June 07, 2011, 08:20:12 PM »
No seriously you have 50000 posts on an internet site about shit that matters to noone except 5 dumbass meatheads....How sad is your life?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1684 on: June 07, 2011, 08:21:13 PM »
I seriously dont give a fuck about either side of this debate you fucking loser. Go outside see the world a bit. You're life is embarassing

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1685 on: June 08, 2011, 02:38:14 AM »
Ok gimmick.  Anyone want to guess whose gimmick this is? 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1686 on: June 08, 2011, 04:51:08 AM »
Update: “IT’S THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, STUPID!” w/Susan Daniels
T Room ^ | 6 June 2011 | Helen Tansey


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Daniels brings our attention to two new documents with the first being an official response from the Social Security Administration to Ms. Daniels request for an investigation into how a legal Hawaiian resident, then Barry Obama, age 15, secured a Connecticut issued Social Security Number.

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The next document Daniels highlights is a Social Security Certification of a deceased applicant named Paul Michael Graziano. Mr. Graziano filed his SS-5 application (scroll to page 2) with a Connecticut Social Security office on March 16, 1977. His residential address then was 38 Yorktown Circle, Trumbull, Conn. 06611.

Why is this significant? Well, Mr. Graziano’s SSN is five numbers AFTER Obama’s Connecticut SSN and, again, was filed on March 16, 1977. You may recall in our April post Daniels explaining a Mr. Thomas Wood’s SS-5 Certification form, which immediately preceded Obama’s Connecticut SSN, being applied for on March 21, 1977. Therefore, it is now conclusive that the Connecticut Social Security number Obama secured at the age of 15, and has been using for the last 25 years, was secured in March of 1977 and more narrowly, sometime during the week of March 16 - 21, 1977.


Timeline - Wood/Obama/Graziano

SSN -- REGISTRATION DATE -- NAME -- ADDRESS
042-68-4424 -- March 21, 1977 -- Thomas Louis Wood -- Newington, Connecticut
042-68-4425 -- March ??, 1977 -- Barack Hussein Obama -- Honolulu, Hawaii
042-68-4429 -- March 16, 1977 -- Paul Michael Graziano -- Yorktown, Connecticut


Daniels then goes onto explain, “his location in March of 1977 is a quandary because the Social Security regulations, as codified then and today, clearly states ‘If you are age 12 or older and have never received a Social Security Number, you must apply in person.‘


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1687 on: June 08, 2011, 04:53:08 AM »
Update: “IT’S THE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, STUPID!” w/Susan Daniels
Posted by helen
June 6, 2011

by Helen Tansey


Back on April 13, 2011, the T-Room predicted that President Obama would soon post a scanned version of what his inner circle would designate as his “Official” long-form birth certificate -

“More importantly, you can’t change a SSN record, but you can certainly create a long-form birth certificate just in time for the 2012 elections. Which is what many are anticipating, and now with Donald Trump entering the fray you can count on such a document entering into the public arena and soon. After all, anyone who has studied this issue knows the Obama camps next step is to embarrass the “birthers” by producing a long-form birth certificate. That would be checkmate wouldn’t it? Of course, it will be a scanned copy just like the COLB, because it will never hold up under the scrutiny of an independent forensic review team of experts, that is someone other than his former employer, the Annenberg’s,  so get ready for a repeat of a similar ruse coming to a computer screen near you.”

Viola! On the morning of April 27 the Prez posted a digitized “scanned” image captivating the public’s imagination, yet again. Although we were spot on in making our prediction, we take no pride in having to make it at all, and we were certainly not the only ones doing so. More unnerving about this farcical theater is how sad it all is. It took this man two and a half years, millions of dollars and a countless number of lawsuits later,  including the Court Martial of Lt. Col Lakin and trumped up charges of Lt. Commander Fitzpatrick, to post a  “picture” that was immediately found to be a really crappy forgery.
But the beat goes on… Many who have become expert students of this miserable game continue to be ridiculed and verbally assaulted for simply pointing out those pesky facts that crush the naysayers/obots laughable drivel. Who knows who pays these trolls and honestly, who really cares. At this point in the game both sides are worn down, one side from lying all of the time and the other defending our constitutional form of government.  The naysayers/obots/trolls barely have it in them to keep the shield up and few are flocking to replace them, with one exception, the moron who posts death threats from Port Angeles, Washington over at obamareleaseyourrecords. This obot loon can be traced back to 2008 when he was leveling similar threats on blogger Citizen Wells. Same M.O., same threats and same obot lunacy.

With both sides seemingly taking a short pause in the battle for reality, we thought it a good time to provide you with an update on the “It’s the Social Security Number, Stupid!” front. A lot has been happening with some detail already being reported while other detail has not.

We first caught up with Susan Daniels, Susan Daniels & Associates, on the afternoon of May 21, 2011. Daniels is the private investigator who, after a client’s request, first delved into the Obama SSN and all of the peculiarities surrounding it back in 2009.

Two documents - One embarrassingly ridiculous and the other tightens the window

Daniels brings our attention to two new documents with the first being an official response from the Social Security Administration to Ms. Daniels request for an investigation into how a legal Hawaiian resident, then Barry Obama, age 15, secured a Connecticut issued Social Security Number. A Mr. Frank Biro, Acting Associate Commissioner, Office of Public Inquiries, Social Security Administration, issued the formal reply by stating the following  “after reviewing the information you provided, we disagree with your conclusion that a person’s Social Security number depends upon the address of a residence.”

That was it. Nothing more. The Acting Associate Commissioner simply stated the Social Security Administration “disagreed” with Daniels understanding of their longstanding application regulations. He cited no code. He cited no regulation. He cited nothing.  As a formal representative of the SSA all he states is his disagreement. With what exactly? With their own regulations? What utter nonsense! Put this useless response into the loony circular file.

The next document Daniels highlights is a Social Security Certification of a deceased applicant named Paul Michael Graziano. Mr. Graziano filed his SS-5 application (scroll to page 2) with a Connecticut Social Security office on March 16, 1977. His residential address then was 38 Yorktown Circle, Trumbull, Conn. 06611.

Why is this significant? Well, Mr. Graziano’s SSN is five numbers AFTER Obama’s Connecticut SSN and, again, was filed on March 16, 1977. You may recall in our April post Daniels explaining a Mr. Thomas Wood’s SS-5 Certification form, which immediately preceded Obama’s Connecticut SSN, being applied for on March 21, 1977. Therefore, it is now conclusive that the Connecticut Social Security number Obama secured at the age of 15, and has been using for the last 25 years, was secured in March of 1977 and more narrowly, sometime during the week of March 16 - 21, 1977.

 

Timeline - Wood/Obama/Graziano
 
 
SSN REGISTRATION DATE NAME ADDRESS
042-68-4424 March 21, 1977 Thomas Louis Wood Newington, Connecticut
042-68-4425 March ??, 1977 Barack Hussein Obama Honolulu, Hawaii
042-68-4429 March 16, 1977 Paul Michael Graziano Yorktown, Connecticut

 

Daniels then goes onto explain, “his location in March of 1977 is a quandary because the Social Security regulations, as codified then and today, clearly states ‘If you are age 12 or older and have never received a Social Security Number, you must apply in person.‘

Listen to Part 1 of the T-Room’s interview with Daniels -


 

 

 

In the second part of the Daniels update, she highlights longstanding regulations of the Social Security administration that remain on the SSA.gov site for which Commish Biro simply disagrees.

The first item Daniels discusses is a historical guideline written by a Mr. Crow and Ms. Bennett, experts on the Social Security system including number assignments, which states the following -

‘With few exceptions, each geographical area is assigned a range of area numbers. Area numbers assigned prior to 1972 are an indication of the location of the SSA office which originally issued the SSN. Since 1972 SSNs have been issued centrally and the area number in SSNs assigned since 1972 corresponds to the residence location of the applicant as indicated on the application for the SSN.” (emphasis added)

To be clear, Connecticut’s area numbers are 040 - 049 and Hawaii’s area numbers are 575 and 576.

Therefore, based on these two SSA regulations one must suspend all rational thought to believe a young 15 year old boy from Honolulu, Hawaii traveled 5015.6 miles, 8071.8 kilometers, 4355.5 nautical miles or took a 10 hour and 25 minute flight to Connecticut, walked into a Connecticut Social Security office with at least “two legal documents” in hand verifying his age, identity, established place of residence in Connecticut and verification of US citizenship.

Nowhere in all of Barry’s travels, his books, articles written about him or his family does anyone even remotely suggest that Barry ever resided in the state of Connecticut nor his grandparents nor any other relatives. Nowhere.  And don’t waste good folks time trying to convince intelligent people the SS office in Baltimore, Maryland read the zip code wrong on the application. To suggest this only shows how desperate and dumb you are.

Listen to Part 2 of the Daniels interview to better understand what these regulations mean -


 

 

 

But for the sake of those who have any lingering doubts, let’s take a look at where 15 year old Barry Obama was in March, 1977.

Where was Barry Obama 1977?

Let’s first apply some deductive reasoning here. We certainly know he wasn’t attending a prep school in Connecticut. He wasn’t holding down his first part-time job at a Baskin Robbins in Connecticut either. Nope. In March of 1977 Barry Obama was a sophomore in High School. He was reportedly living with his grandparents, Stanley and Toot aka Tut, attending Punahou Academy in Honolulu, Hawai’i, playing junior varsity basketball and singing in the school’s choir, that is according to Obama’s Hawai’i Neighborhood blog -

Punahou & Educational Factoids:

Years Attended

•1971: (5th grade) to 1979 (12th grade)
Extra Curricular Activities

•1975: Plays intermediate football at Punahou as an eighth-grader.
•1976: Sings in the Punahou Boys’ Chorus One - 9th grade
•1977: Sings in the Punahou Concert Choir as a 10th-grader; plays junior varsity basketball
•1978: Makes the Punahou varsity basketball team as a junior
•1979: Plays on the state championship basketball team as the only left-hander; writes for Ka Wai Ola, Punahou’s high school literary journal
•1979: Graduates from Punahou
Which is verified by Punahou Academy -

Years Attended Punahou

1971 (5th grade) to 1979 (12th grade)

Co-curricular Activities

1975 Intermediate Football – 8th grade
1976 Boys’ Chorus One – 9th grade
1977 Concert Choir – 10th grade
1977 Junior Varsity Basketball – 10th grade
1978 Varsity A Basketball
1979 Varsity A Basketball (state champions)
1979 Ka Wai Ola (Punahou’s high school literary journal)

And then you have this story written by a fellow Punahou classmate titled A kid called Barry where this classmate states “Obama soon entered the Academy at Punahou where he juggled new demands and choices: working a part-time job at the neighborhood Baskin-Robbins; singing with the chorale in freshman and sophomore years; playing basketball; and writing for the school literary magazine “Ka Wai Ola.”

According to his alma mater and friends, Barry Obama was definitely attending Punahou Academy located in Honolulu, Hawaii in 1977.

So, we’ve narrowed the question a bit by affirming his whereabouts in 1977, but where was he in “MARCH” of 1977?

Where was, or better yet, wasn’t Barry Obama in March 1977

Let’s take a minute to address some of the fantastical ideas dolts might dream up when trying to explain how a 15 year old, lower to middle-class kid living in Hawaii, who was shooting hoops, singing in the school choir, working a part-time job and doing his homework  was the week of March 16 - 21, 1977.

Let’s first take a quick look at Punahou Academy and what was and was not happening in Barry’s life in March of ’77. First, we know he was on the junior varsity basketball team according to Punahou. Could the team have come to the mainland to play in a tournament? Nope. After speaking with the Punahou Academy’s Athletic Department, the T-Room learned that as a junior varsity basketball player, their season begins roughly in late October to early November and ends early February, that is unless the team goes to state. Punahou Academy’s junior varsity basketball team did go to state in 1977 thereby extending the seasons schedule to mid to late February.  So, it’s safe to rule out a school trip in March to the mainland to play in a basketball tourney.

What about Spring Break? Hardly. After speaking to the operator at Punahou Academy, who has been working the switchboard for 18 years, she shared it would be “safe to say” Punahou spring break was/is typically scheduled sometime during one of the last two weeks in March. Recall, the narrow window in which Barry Obama could have flown to Connecticut and walked into a Connecticut SS office to apply for a Connecticut SSN was March 16 to 21. Well, March 21, 1977 fell on the Monday of the fourth week of March, the first of either of the latter two weeks Punahou students would have had off for spring break.

Anything is possible, especially given the fantastical narrative built up around this guy, but when you apply simple logic to such an adventure you quickly realize the magical fairyland we’d have to live in to believe such nonsense. Indeed, one would have to believe this 15 year old kid made visiting a Connecticut SS office his first priority after arriving to the mainland. What, Hawaii didn’t have a SS office back then? Of course they did! His own half-sister Maya has a Hawaiian SSN. Why not half-brother Barry?

To wrap this up, here’s Chris “tingling leg salesman” Matthews telling us why the Dunham’s couldn’t have hardly afforded to send their grandson to Connecticut in March 1977 for spring break, college tours or to secure a mythical Connecticut SSN -

“On MSNBC, Chris Matthews asked if there was “something missing” in Sen. Barack Obama’s “biography that people can identify with.” Matthews continued: “He’s gone from being a poor kid, growing up in Hawaii, in Indonesia, part of his youth, mixed family background, had to struggle, worked with community organizations; went to these incredibly elite schools, Columbia and Harvard Law, making Law Review and all that. He missed the middle part.” Matthews went on to state: “Does he have that experience that people — most Americans have? Does he connect on the basic struggling-class level?…”

Not only were his grandparents “struggling middle classers” but they weren’t stupid! Just ask yourself as a basic part of the struggling class - would your parents, or grandparents in Barry’s case, have sent you to Hawai’i for a college tour as a sophomore? That’s what I thought. No. Maybe driving a state or two away, but not a full 5015.6 miles, 8071.8 kilometers, 4355.5 nautical miles or a 10 hour and 25 minute flight away from home. And no, Connecticut has never been nor ever will be a spring break destination for a bunch of tenth graders.

Knowing Barry Obama never left the island of Honolulu in March 1977, how in the hell did he “legally” end up with a Connecticut SSN that was issued previously to one born in 1890?


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1688 on: June 08, 2011, 05:06:46 AM »
This shit is borderline insane at this point..Like seriously.. from one human to another, your obsession isnt normal

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« Reply #1689 on: June 08, 2011, 05:10:59 AM »
This shit is borderline insane at this point..Like seriously.. from one human to another, your obsession isnt normal

Can you explain how obama got a CT SS number as proven above?   

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« Reply #1690 on: June 08, 2011, 05:22:07 AM »
Can you explain how obama got a CT SS number as proven above?   
I can explain that he showed his MF birth certificate, and the issue is dead..

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« Reply #1691 on: June 08, 2011, 05:24:50 AM »
I can explain that he showed his MF birth certificate, and the issue is dead..

He didnt show anything but a forged instrument.  Have you not been following this thread? 


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« Reply #1692 on: June 08, 2011, 05:26:24 AM »
He didnt show anything but a forged instrument.  Have you not been following this thread? 



Well if it was officially determined a forgery, why the fuck is Donald Trump not all over that?...

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« Reply #1693 on: June 08, 2011, 05:27:23 AM »
Well if it was officially determined a forgery, why the fuck is Donald Trump not all over that?...

Call him up and ask him.     

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« Reply #1694 on: June 08, 2011, 05:47:42 AM »
Can you explain how obama got a CT SS number as proven above?   

Once again...Who gives a shit?? Loser

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« Reply #1695 on: June 08, 2011, 05:49:31 AM »
Call him up and ask him.      
Wow.. amazing, this is your comeback?... Call him and ask him.. stunning
Im saying.. If the birth certificate was OFFICIALLY determined as a forgery, and the birth certificate was Trumps main leg to stand on, he should still be standing right..

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« Reply #1696 on: June 08, 2011, 05:51:55 AM »
Im saying.. If the birth certificate was OFFICIALLY

Again - why not show the actual book and original page?   

Everything they do just feeds the flames of CT's.

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« Reply #1697 on: June 09, 2011, 08:00:52 AM »
Trump's back! Casting doubt on birth certificate
WND ^ | June 06, 2011 | WND





After fanning the flames of doubt that pressured Barack Obama to publicize a purported copy of his official birth certificate, Donald Trump's latest statements suggest the White House-released document may be a fake.

"I don't know exactly what he showed," Trump told the Faith & Freedom Coalition annual conference in Washington, D.C., over the weekend, " but you know, someday somebody's gonna figure that one out."

The famed businessman also intoned, "Nobody is protected like Barack Hussein Obama," Politico reports. "I have never seen press that is so protective of a human being before."

Though Trump's true stance on the document remains muddied, WND reported Jerome Corsi, author of "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama is Not Eligible to be President," claims Trump was "pumping [him] for information" on the birth certificate.

Corsi reports a conference call with WND Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah in which the building magnate said he is concerned about the validity of the document released April 27 by the Obama White House. Farah confirms Trump questioned the authenticity of the birth certificate and said others around him do as well.


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« Reply #1698 on: June 09, 2011, 11:52:52 AM »

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« Reply #1699 on: June 09, 2011, 11:56:23 AM »
333333's  Thread title fraud:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=380756.0

No gayass youtube clip needed.   ;D