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Guy cat walking down the street has a loaded weapon and is a suspect in a robbery. What do pigs do? For once! It's a fucking clear case where force is warranted. What do they do? They wait until the suspect gets to a crowded area and decide to run him over to ensure that no one else is hurt in the stunt.
Now, I ain't no Einstein but... wouldn't it have made more sense to get this guy when he was walking along the wall, with no one anywhere near? Shoot him in the leg. Arm. Hand. Whatever you can.
How can you say that you ran this man over to prevent anyone else from getting hurt when... your reaction could have caused a heck of a lot more deaths than the "suspect" himself?
Are pigs stupid?
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Guy cat walking down the street has a loaded weapon and is a suspect in a robbery. What do pigs do? For once! It's a fucking clear case where force is warranted. What do they do? They wait until the suspect gets to a crowded area and decide to run him over to ensure that no one else is hurt in the stunt.
Now, I ain't no Einstein but... wouldn't it have made more sense to get this guy when he was walking along the wall, with no one anywhere near? Shoot him in the leg. Arm. Hand. Whatever you can.
How can you say that you ran this man over to prevent anyone else from getting hurt when... your reaction could have caused a heck of a lot more deaths than the "suspect" himself?
Are pigs stupid?
That was dumber than hell. Even the cop speaking over the radio knew it... you could hear it in his voice.
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I was doing deadlifts in the gym this afternoon and this came on the tv.
I just about pissed myself laughing at the way the guy went thru the air.
The other gym users were horrified and look at me with disgust.
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Oh boo fucking hoo. ::)
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Pig dude just totaled his porkmoblie for no reason. Idiot.
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Pig dude just totaled his porkmoblie for no reason. Idiot.
Were you not amused ???
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just about to post this. he rammed the hell out of that guy
He did did a 720š.
I'd give him a 10.
Olympic gymnasts would've been proud.
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3:20 for up close view of hit.
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Pig dude just totaled his porkmoblie for no reason. Idiot.
Now they can't drive to buy donuts. :-\ :'( :(
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Ban cop cars!!
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Pig dude just totaled his porkmoblie for no reason. Idiot.
showed it on German news last Night.. saying , "another aggressive police incident in the US". the 2 news readers just looked at each other after it was shown in disbelief.
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this is bad for GOOD cops everywhere.
Cause when a good cop is getting jumped by 3 idiots taking his gun... far less likelihood people will be heroes and jump out and help. People are going to be far less likely to stop crimes, to report things, to call police. Cause they might ram that bad guy and a victim might have been hiding behind that freakin' wall, trying to avoid the bad guy. Youo know, the wall they demolished.
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Snap decision by that officer, obvious doer; probably gets a promotion.
I liked how he called the kid running alongside him a dumbass and then immediately accelerates towards a partial wall.
He almost died for you b*tches.
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this is bad for GOOD cops everywhere.
Cause when a good cop is getting jumped by 3 idiots taking his gun... far less likelihood people will be heroes and jump out and help. People are going to be far less likely to stop crimes, to report things, to call police. Cause they might ram that bad guy and a victim might have been hiding behind that freakin' wall, trying to avoid the bad guy. Youo know, the wall they demolished.
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I was doing deadlifts in the gym this afternoon and this came on the tv.
I just about pissed myself laughing at the way the guy went thru the air.
The other gym users were horrified and look at me with disgust.
;D . I caught myself laughing too. The look on his face is hilarious.
I'm actually not all that phased by what the cop did, bit dramatic, but hey.... You've got a violent(he had committed an armed robbery earlier in the day), suicidal felon walking down the street firing a high powered rifle. If you tail him too close he could spray the cars or open up on civilians. If you force a fire fight, you risk your bullets hitting civilians, as well as his, etc.... The car takes him by surprise and totally stops him. It's not a perfect solution, but it's not as bad as it seems when you start weighing it against other what ifs.
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;D . I caught myself laughing too. The look on his face is hilarious.
I'm actually not all that phased by what the cop did, bit dramatic, but hey.... You've got a violent(he had committed an armed robbery earlier in the day), suicidal felon walking down the street firing a high powered rifle. If you tail him too close he could spray the cars or open up on civilians. If you force a fire fight, you risk your bullets hitting civilians, as well as his, etc.... The car takes him by surprise and totally stops him. It's not a perfect solution, but it's not as bad as it seems when you start weighing it against other what ifs.
Yeah, Sky news showed in in slow motion and close up and the dash cam on the big TV in the gym and I just couldn't stop laughing, I had
to face away from the TV to continue my deadlifts.
I think its the combination of the shock of it, the cartwheel and the fact the wee guy is strutting and swaggering about and really deserved it.
Plus the irony that all these controversial police gun deaths have suddenly been in the public view and in this case the cop did not draw his gun
but still gets criticised.
Next it will be cops in a steamroller flattening someone like in the Roadrunner cartoon.
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As a blackie would say:
"Some Grand Theft Auto shit right thurrrr" :D ;D
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Slapper do us a favor. Become a cop and show how it should be done.
Take off your bullet proof vest because no one is out to harm you... Everyone in your world is inherently good right?
Throw your gun away... A night stick and taser are plenty of protection...right?
And then YOU approach the crazy guy who is shooting a high powered rifle into the air out in public.
Then get back to us with how that works out for you ok?
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If the criminal was armed this is a much better and safer solution than a shootout, or risking a hostage situation
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Guy cat walking down the street has a loaded weapon and is a suspect in a robbery. What do pigs do? For once! It's a fucking clear case where force is warranted. What do they do? They wait until the suspect gets to a crowded area and decide to run him over to ensure that no one else is hurt in the stunt.
Now, I ain't no Einstein but... wouldn't it have made more sense to get this guy when he was walking along the wall, with no one anywhere near? Shoot him in the leg. Arm. Hand. Whatever you can.
How can you say that you ran this man over to prevent anyone else from getting hurt when... your reaction could have caused a heck of a lot more deaths than the "suspect" himself?
Are pigs stupid?
Can you just shut it and get out of your styrofoam bubble for once you ignorant little fuck?
It's never good enough for people like you. You still don't seem to get that shooting at a leg/arm/hand is some fucking videogame shit. The only real life case where that has ever worked was with the use of a trained sniper and a fucking barely moving suspect. If you draw a firearm, you shoot to kill or in the very least incapacitate. Get it through your fucking thick skull.
The guy was walking in the street, armed, swinging his weapon around. Cops let him be and requested he put his weapon down until, yet he continued on towards a more populated area, at which point general safety was at risk and actions were taken. Little fuckheads such as you would've cried foul either way "Oh, he wasn't endangering anyone, he was just walking along", "Oh, they waited too long they should have acted quicker", "Oh, they should've atleast let him finish deepdicking mrs. Slapper before cuffing him".
They should have tazed the fuck and capped his skull, that way little whinebabies like you would actually have something to cry about.
Kill yourself already.
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So what exactly was wrong here? I'd say a great reaction/action, cop neutralised a retard like a boss.
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An extreme situation required an extreme solution...I see nothing wrong here. There is a reason why they put battering rams on their police cars.
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If that guy is walking down THE BEEF's street, the police better him the gun touting psycho.
What dose he do, wit until he shoots someone? Good call.
THE BEEF
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If that guy is walking down THE BEEF's street, the police better him the gun touting psycho.
What dose he do, wit until he shoots someone? Good call.
THE BEEF
They could wait a few more minutes if Slapper was walking in the area. :)
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If that guy is walking down THE BEEF's street, the police better him the gun touting psycho.
What dose he do, wit until he shoots someone? Good call.
THE BEEF
THE BEEF is impaired. THE BEEF has been shoplifting down at the Liquormart again.
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The reality is it was most likely a tactical maneuver meant to knick the guy which was judged wrong. Bottom line, the guy was shooting, put the gun to himself to back the cops off and could have shot a child or any number of people. We'd all be pissed about them not reacting if several kids were killed. If you walk down the street with a loaded gun, don't be surprised . .
THE BEEF
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??? Um oh well at least these cameras are making for good entertainment. ;D The cop was a real dumb ass for what he did not that I care about this idiot assuming what we are told is true which rarely is. These cameras are doing nothing to protect the citizens though.
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No citizens other than the perp hurt.. no cops hurt... dangerous situation resolved. Let's call it a day boys..
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8)
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Damn, was surprised how hard he was hit.
I am yet again very surprised they would do this when they know they're being filmed. How can they possibly justify this, lol???
guess cops are tired of being shot at, the car can shield them and they will be doing this more and more.
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guess cops are tired of being shot at
So much so that you and I are 8 times more likely to get fatally shot by a cop than the other way around.
I guess they're looking for a 16 to 1 ratio.
That'll make them happy.
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So much so that you and I are 8 times more likely to get fatally shot by a cop than the other way around.
I guess they're looking for a 16 to 1 ratio.
That'll make them happy.
KY
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No citizens other than the perp hurt.. no cops hurt... dangerous situation resolved. Let's call it a day boys..
Love the way that was worded!
THE BEEF
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Love the way that was worded!
THE BEEF
Kamikaze tactics.. i wonder who paid for the car and Damage?
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Kamikaze tactics.. i wonder who paid for the car and Damage?
Seriously? The dude had a long rifle... suspect in a robber, fired off a round, walking in a residential area...you really think car damage is worse than a cop or another citizen taking a bullet? Donny, you do realize sometimes it's serious out there? I'll take car damage over a shoot out any day of the week.
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Seriously? The dude had a long rifle... suspect in a robber, fired off a round, walking in a residential area...you really think car damage is worse than a cop or another citizen taking a bullet? Donny, you do realize sometimes it's serious out there? I'll take car damage over a shoot out any day of the week.
Do i realize itīs serious out there? Listen .. i have probably fired off more rounds in action than you, so wind your neck in OK. Driving a car kamikaze style is not Professional. You argue non stop about how good you guys are. The truth is itīs coming out. I do not dislike you but get fucking real OK?
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Do i realize itīs serious out there? Listen .. i have probably fired off more rounds in action than you, so wind your neck in OK. Driving a car kamikaze style is not Professional. You argue non stop about how good you guys are. The truth is itīs coming out. I do not dislike you but get fucking real OK?
You "always" take the criminals side... that is about as accurate as you saying "you argue non stop about how good you guys are" But whatever..
The fact you are complaining about a cop using his vehicle to take out a threat sooner rather than later speaks volumns on your lack of understanding of the seriousness of the situation. You can armchair quaterback all day long about what Donny would have done in that situation but the focus should be on 1. was the person an imminent threat? 2. Was the tactic used successful? 2. Did it needlessly put others in danger? Was it within state law and policy? If reasonable peole determine the answers are yes, it doesn't really matter if Donny, or Ag would have done it a different way. At the end of the day, the situation was resolved with minimal risk to innocent people. Sometimes I just gotta shake my head and wonder..
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You "always" take the criminals side... that is about as accurate as you saying "you argue non stop about how good you guys are" But whatever..
The fact you are complaining about a cop using his vehicle to take out a threat sooner rather than later speaks volumns on your lack of understanding of the seriousness of the situation. You can armchair quaterback all day long about what Donny would have done in that situation but the focus should be on 1. was the person an imminent threat? 2. Was the tactic used successful? 2. Did it needlessly put others in danger? Was it within state law and policy? If reasonable peole determine the answers are yes, it doesn't really matter if Donny, or Ag would have done it a different way. At the end of the day, the situation was resolved with minimal risk to innocent people. Sometimes I just gotta shake my head and wonder..
thank you that you know my name.. I have never seen such behaviour from armed Police in Germany. Have you seen action yourself and i mean real conflict other than being an officer?
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thank you that you know my name.. I have never seen such behaviour from armed Police in Germany. Have you seen action yourself and i mean real conflict other than being an officer?
I did 10 yrs in the military prior to starting my career in Law Enforcement. War and policing are widely different in many aspects, but when dealing with an armed subject, the dangers are real for both. I think you are having a hard time getting your head around using a vehicle as a weapon. That was not the first, nor will it be the last time it happens. You can run through a dozen scenarios in your head on how you think the cops should have handled that. You may be right on 7 of those but that doesn't mean this one is not one of the 7. Sometimes there isn't the luxury of setting up a perimeter, calling swat, waiting it out. Some situations are fluid and bad things can happen in the next 2 seconds. A kid walks out of his house, now its a hostage situation. Or he just starts shooting at the cops or anyone around. Decisions are made under pressure and knowing that whatever they do, it will be judged from the safety of our living rooms for days to come. They don't take immediate action and someone dies, Donny is saying "Why didn't the cops do something sooner!?" If a guy has been involved in violent crimes, it carrying a weapon, we can make some assumptions.. we have to make the assumption they will use it on us or someone else. Otherwise they wouldn't have it. We don't have the luxury of trying to assume they are bluffing or just kidding. Had the cop stepped out of his vehicle and shot the guy, would you have any problem with it? If not, what's the real difference?
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I did 10 yrs in the military prior to starting my career in Law Enforcement. War and policing are widely different in many aspects, but when dealing with an armed subject, the dangers are real for both. I think you are having a hard time getting your head around using a vehicle as a weapon. That was not the first, nor will it be the last time it happens. You can run through a dozen scenarios in your head on how you think the cops should have handled that. You may be right on 7 of those but that doesn't mean this one is not one of the 7. Sometimes there isn't the luxury of setting up a perimeter, calling swat, waiting it out. Some situations are fluid and bad things can happen in the next 2 seconds. A kid walks out of his house, now its a hostage situation. Or he just starts shooting at the cops or anyone around. Decisions are made under pressure and knowing that whatever they do, it will be judged from the safety of our living rooms for days to come. They don't take immediate action and someone dies, Donny is saying "Why didn't the cops do something sooner!?" If a guy has been involved in violent crimes, it carrying a weapon, we can make some assumptions.. we have to make the assumption they will use it on us or someone else. Otherwise they wouldn't have it. We don't have the luxury of trying to assume they are bluffing or just kidding. Had the cop stepped out of his vehicle and shot the guy, would you have any problem with it? If not, what's the real difference?
Could that Kamakaze cop be sure in that situation he was not a Danger to other citizens? which conflict in the Military?
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Could that Kamakaze cop be sure in that situation he was not a Danger to other citizens? which conflict in the Military?
from what I can see from his video there is a high percentage chance that he would not endanger anyone. Plus, you have to weigh that with the danger of NOT doing that. Most cops or at least here most cops have Shot guns with slugs and or AR15's. I'd much rather send a vehicle down range like that then rounds. Any round that missed would likely end up in a house. Again, there are many scenarios of what could have happened, some probably ending with cops being dead or seriously injured and perhaps civilians. At the end of the day, I would be a jerk if I complained that the officer picked that option to end the situation.. having no better solution with a guarantee of a less bloody or fatal outcome than that.
I was fortunate to have been in before 2001. I got out in 92. Never saw a day of combat. Don't regret it.
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from what I can see from his video there is a high percentage chance that he would not endanger anyone. Plus, you have to weigh that with the danger of NOT doing that. Most cops or at least here most cops have Shot guns with slugs and or AR15's. I'd much rather send a vehicle down range like that then rounds. Any round that missed would likely end up in a house. Again, there are many scenarios of what could have happened, some probably ending with cops being dead or seriously injured and perhaps civilians. At the end of the day, I would be a jerk if I complained that the officer picked that option to end the situation.. having no better solution with a guarantee of a less bloody or fatal outcome than that.
I was fortunate to have been in before 2001. I got out in 92. Never saw a day of combat. Don't regret it.
OK.. like most Officers a spontaneous decision. right or wrong he made it.
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OK.. like most Officers a spontaneous decision. right or wrong he made it.
There are times, most of the times, officers have time to deliberate, come up with a plan, seek counsel.. but there are those rare ocassions when you have to examine the situation, weigh the options and make a decision. While those decisions need to and should be examined because they have impact, they need to be examined with the mindset of what information the officer had at the time. I have officers that make decisions that I personally wouldn't make. But as long as it is in the box, and accomplishes the goal which is resolve the situation with the least risk to self and public, I would do them a deservice if I chastized them for it. We can talk about other options next time, or talk it through, but in THIS case, with just the 2 videos I have to go on, I'd say good job.
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There are times, most of the times, officers have time to deliberate, come up with a plan, seek counsel.. but there are those rare ocassions when you have to examine the situation, weigh the options and make a decision. While those decisions need to and should be examined because they have impact, they need to be examined with the mindset of what information the officer had at the time. I have officers that make decisions that I personally wouldn't make. But as long as it is in the box, and accomplishes the goal which is resolve the situation with the least risk to self and public, I would do them a deservice if I chastized them for it. We can talk about other options next time, or talk it through, but in THIS case, with just the 2 videos I have to go on, I'd say good job.
yes so you turn a blind eye. Itīs not bad admitting it.
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yes so you turn a blind eye. Itīs not bad admitting it.
Absolutely, I sweep it under the carpet. If the public ever found out he took out an armed robbery suspect with a cruiser, they would crucify us.. better to just cover it up ;)
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Absolutely, I sweep it under the carpet. If the public ever found out he took out an armed robbery suspect with a cruiser, they would crucify us.. better to just cover it up ;)
it was your own words :-\ but hey i understand you guys stick together.
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help me out Donny.... I am trying to decide whether to retire at 24 yrs or 24.5 yrs. The difference is $200 a month.. so Jan 2017 or July 17.. Kinda itchin to hit the tropical beaches, but $200 will cover HOA fees for any condos we rent while abroad, or a couple nice bottles of wine a month.. Kinda torn..
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it was your own words :-\ but hey i understand you guys stick together.
Donny, you were either joking, or it really doesn't matter what I write, you would have read that anyway... so I just put what you would have followed up with anyway
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help me out Donny.... I am trying to decide whether to retire at 24 yrs or 24.5 yrs. The difference is $200 a month.. so Jan 2017 or July 17.. Kinda itchin to hit the tropical beaches, but $200 will cover HOA fees for any condos we rent while abroad, or a couple nice bottles of wine a month.. Kinda torn..
;D