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Title: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:39:18 PM
??????/
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: mass 04 on December 29, 2008, 12:39:58 PM
no
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:40:42 PM
anything can happen in a street fight however, the MMA fighter would have more confidence
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 12:42:52 PM
??????/

absolutely
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tre on December 29, 2008, 12:43:05 PM
anything can happen in a street fight however, the MMA fighter would have more confidence

...and a feared Tapout shirt. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: QuakerOats on December 29, 2008, 12:43:23 PM
absolutely
he said "normal guy" not "pusssy".
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 12:43:59 PM
no.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 29, 2008, 12:44:11 PM
absolutely


Exactly what I was thinking
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 12:45:09 PM
he said "normal guy" not "pusssy".

hey my puppy is here  :D street fight anything goes guess who the odds favor ?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:45:21 PM
...and a feared Tapout shirt. 

i thought only posers wore those, haha
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:45:32 PM
absolutely

guns are illegal here in england
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:46:32 PM
the mma fighter who will always win a street fight is easily,hands down is bas rutten

he used to be a bouncer at this bar in holland called "the bulldog" and that place is BADASS

him and bob schribjer used to clean up
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 12:46:39 PM
guns are illegal here in england

Knifes aren't .....yet
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: QuakerOats on December 29, 2008, 12:47:19 PM
hey my puppy is here  :D street fight anything goes guess who the odds favor ?
doesn't make a guy any less of a sissy for using it.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:47:50 PM
Knifes aren't .....yet

i dont wanna go to prison either
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Method101 on December 29, 2008, 12:48:20 PM

(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/200546031/Handforged_JP_Samurai_Sword_Foursquare_Tsuba_RazorSharp.jpg)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/200546031/Handforged_JP_Samurai_Sword_Foursquare_Tsuba_RazorSharp.jpg)

lets be realistic here, im not gonna walk down the street with a sword everyday
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on December 29, 2008, 12:49:43 PM
i dont wanna go to prison either

How bad could an English prison really be?

Boooo fuckin hooo You don't get your Tea and Crumpets at 3:00.  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:50:43 PM
How bad could an English prison really be?

Boooo fuckin hooo You don't get your Tea and Crumpets at 3:00.  ;D

you been looking at too much tv, there are some fucked up people here in england
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:50:48 PM
lets be realistic here, im not gonna walk down the street with a sword everyday

that would be badass if you did though
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: madmax on December 29, 2008, 12:51:31 PM
that would be badass if you did though

how old are you? you seem really immature
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 12:51:54 PM
i dont wanna go to prison either

Better be judged by 12 than carries by 6 they say
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:54:09 PM
how old are you? you seem really immature

old enough to know how bad ass it would be to walk around with a samurai sword
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 12:58:04 PM
Look what happened to kimbo when he fought a semi decent mma fighter. got OWNED in 40sec.

Yet he destroyed everyone in the streets.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 12:59:34 PM
Look what happened to kimbo when he fought a semi decent mma fighter. got OWNED in 40sec.

Yet he destroyed everyone in the streets.

he got owned by thompson as well but "the fix was in" on that fight
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:00:15 PM
Look what happened to kimbo when he fought a semi decent mma fighter. got OWNED in 40sec.

Yet he destroyed everyone in the streets.

His street fights were pretty bad ass until he fought Gannon and that was a war but alas 3 bullets in 1.5 secs he'd be in MMA heaven
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 01:01:11 PM
Better be judged by 12 than carries by 6 they say
YOu sound like a real life thug.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:02:54 PM
YOu sound like a real life thug.

Thiz iz 4 my homize  >:(
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:07:36 PM
yes of course.

just because youre good fighting under rules in the cage doesnt mean you can fight on the street. two different things.

a lot of mma fighters would shit their pants in a street fight.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:08:45 PM


a lot of mma fighters would shit their pants in a street fight.

Nonsense 99% would feel very comfortable in a street fight
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 01:09:19 PM
Go find a local judo club, Max.  BJJ and Ju Jitsu would be good too I guess, but probably much more expensive.  Lots of judo clubs are run for minimal profit because people simply love the sport.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:10:29 PM
Nonsense 99% would feel very comfortable in a street fight

no they wouldnt because on the street it's real, in the cage it's a game. the body can tell the difference and how good they will do depends on how they can handle the pressure.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 01:11:24 PM
I kicked the ass of a boxer that trained boxing for a few years.
They think its the same thang on the streetzzzz but it aint buddy.

seriously.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:12:04 PM
no they wouldnt because on the street it's real, in the cage it's a game. the body can tell the difference and how good they will do depends on how they can handle the pressure.


In the cage they're facing an someone with comparable skills outside they're facing someone else who is much less skilled , they fight for a living the main concern is someone with a gun
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:13:35 PM
In the cage they're facing an someone with comparable skills outside they're facing someone else who is much less skilled , they fight for a living the main concern is someone with a gun

dont matter, its the environment and circumstances that are so different that make a person feel anything but comfortable.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 01:15:42 PM
dont matter, its the environment and circumstances that are so different that make a person feel anything but comfortable.

wait for the push, throw the first punch, hope it lands good and knock the guy down or its on lol.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Method101 on December 29, 2008, 01:16:10 PM
( :D)

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Somewhere in the back of my mind, something is telling me to stop enjoying Naomi's pussy juice. Somewhere, in the back of my mind, something is telling me that i have other things to do. Somewhere, reason is telling me no. But the rest of my senses, tells that voice to shut up.

I continue to lick at Naomi's pussy. Licking away as she cums again and again from my tongue, her thighs squeezing my head each time it happens.

Somewhere in the back of my mind, something tells me to remember to call up my clients later and apologize for not showing up.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 01:21:36 PM
Good fighters don't get into street and bar brawls anyway, as a rule.  99% of the time it's insecure young men trying to act tougher than they are.  Then the situation escalates to a badly thrown punch or an awkward tackle.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bobby on December 29, 2008, 01:22:18 PM
I kicked the ass of a boxer that trained boxing for a few years.
They think its the same thang on the streetzzzz but it aint buddy.

seriously.

maybe he sucked?


:D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
dont matter, its the environment and circumstances that are so different that make a person feel anything but comfortable.

Again a ' normal ' guy has NO advantage against a skilled trained fighter unless he has a gun and he knows how to use the gun

a normal guy hits a trained fighter it would just be a reaction to beat the guy senseless
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 01:24:22 PM
maybe he sucked?


:D

Maby I threw the first punch  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 01:24:28 PM
Good fighters don't get into street and bar brawls anyway, as a rule.  99% of the time it's insecure young men trying to act tougher than they are.  Then the situation escalates to a badly thrown punch or an awkward tackle.

very true , they avoid fights
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: johnnynoname on December 29, 2008, 01:25:36 PM
Maby I threw the first punch  ;D a sucker punch
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: freespirit on December 29, 2008, 01:26:38 PM
Bas Rutten versus bluto, who will win?   ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 01:27:21 PM

noo, it was after a push, he push I swing
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 01:42:12 PM
kimbo a piece crap ring fighter jacked guys in the street.

(http://www.psfights.com/data/thumbnails/1/122006_kimbo_vs_adryan.jpg)

tyson...not mma...jacked mitch green at a club and clowned 3 guys near an elevator

guy i worked with got jacked in 10 sec in a match.

lets keep it GetReal!  pick a fight with a 12 yr old on a school yrd

 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 01:45:42 PM
kimbo a piece crap ring fighter jacked guys in the street.

(http://www.psfights.com/data/thumbnails/1/122006_kimbo_vs_adryan.jpg)

tyson...not mma...jacked mitch green at a club and clowned 3 guys near an elevator

guy i worked with got jacked in 10 sec in a match.

lets keep it GetReal!  pick a fight with a 12 yr old on a school yrd

 

wtf did you just say?   ???
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 01:46:10 PM
very true , they avoid fights

The black belts I've met are very nice, mellow dudes.  They just look like the average guy you'd see on the street, not at all someone you'd look at and know he's a fighter.  They take me straight to the cleaners every time, lol.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 01:48:15 PM
no
x100  Stupid question.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
wtf did you just say?   ???

you're no match for these guys in a street fight.  lets get out of disneyland land here.  how fast one of these guys would kick my a$$ is a better topic.  hope this helps.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:51:40 PM
Again a ' normal ' guy has NO advantage against a skilled trained fighter unless he has a gun and he knows how to use the gun

a normal guy hits a trained fighter it would just be a reaction to beat the guy senseless

a normal guy MIGHT have an advantage depending on how he reacts under pressure.

even mike tyson said he was scared when he was in a street fight. where as you would think he would be "comfortable"
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 01:54:04 PM
kimbo a piece crap ring fighter jacked guys in the street.

(http://www.psfights.com/data/thumbnails/1/122006_kimbo_vs_adryan.jpg)

tyson...not mma...jacked mitch green at a club and clowned 3 guys near an elevator

guy i worked with got jacked in 10 sec in a match.

lets keep it GetReal!  pick a fight with a 12 yr old on a school yrd
It was at Dapper Dan's, Div. Let's not make a purse out of a sow's ear, eh?   ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
a normal guy MIGHT have an advantage depending on how he reacts under pressure.

even mike tyson said he was scared when he was in a street fight. where as you would think he would be "comfortable"


everybody is afraid but not everyone knows how to sit/get leverage on the punches like these guys.  tyson destroyed 3 regular (6"0" - 200lbs or so) in a lobby, walked through 6'3"260 offseason pro mitch green...leaving him half uncon in a parking lot.  GETREAL!  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:55:37 PM
most of kimbos fights wasnt street fights though, they were organized set up backyard fights which resembles mma he would be even more bad ass in a bar i bet
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SquatAss on December 29, 2008, 01:57:35 PM
Well let's see someone who knows how to throw effective combinations, who can take you down at will, who knows how to hold you while he breaks your limb, who's reflexes have been trained to react to attacks vs someone who has none of that. I'd say the odds are stacked against the normal guy.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:58:09 PM
everybody is afraid but not everyone knows how to sit/get leverage on the punches like these guys.  tyson destroyed 3 regular (6"0" - 200lbs or so) in a lobby, walked through 6'3"260 offseason pro mitch green...leaving him half uncon in a parking lot.  GETREAL!  

most mma guys cant punch for shit
theyll be waiting for the ref to come in and break up the clinch or try to take the fight to the ground where they will be kicked in the head by the buddies of the guy theyre trying to lock in an armbar  :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SquatAss on December 29, 2008, 01:58:25 PM
most of kimbos fights wasnt street fights though, they were organized set up backyard fights which resembles mma he would be even more bad ass in a bar i bet

They were striking only. Had absolutely nothing to do with MMA whatsoever.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 01:58:33 PM
board is full of f##kin millionaires, a$$kickers, toughest men on the planet types. i'm assuming guys on here could beat a 2 week hungry 500lb lion in a cage.  these pro/semi-pro mma types would kill you clowns.  same jacka$$e$ i've seen in ERs. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 01:58:54 PM
id beat most mma fighters on the street! but then again im not a normal guy! im a street fighter veteran!!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SquatAss on December 29, 2008, 02:00:05 PM
id beat most mma fighters on the street! but then again im not a normal guy! im a street fighter veteran!!

No what you are is a board attention whore.

Hope that clears things up for you.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:00:27 PM
id beat most mma fighters on the street! but then again im not a normal guy! im a street fighter veteran!!

you would win an internet fight that for sure
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Option D on December 29, 2008, 02:02:21 PM
no
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: freespirit on December 29, 2008, 02:03:23 PM
you would win an internet fight that for sure

ha ha
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:03:28 PM
Ok first off MMA is in no way indicative of what happens in a street fight.  Anyone that thinks that has never been in a real fight.  I would have no problem fighting an MMA guy in a street fight where I can eye gouge, bite, grab/kick/punch the groin, crack knees, etc.  You take away an MMA fighters ability to fight on the ground and you eliminate 50% of his efficacy.  Now put me in a ring with an MMA fighter with rules and I'd have my ass handed to me.  

The question if you really want to test an MMA's fighting ability is to put them in a street fight with someone 50lbs heavier than them and the tenacity to kill them.  I.e. a real life or death street situation.  

These MMA debates are bullshit.  And its obvious many on this board have no clue as to the difference between fighting and self defense.

But hey Bluto thinks being a soccer "hooligan" means you're a street fighter.  LMAO!  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:05:31 PM
Ok first off MMA is in no way indicative of what happens in a street fight.  Anyone that thinks that has never been in a real fight.  I would have no problem fighting an MMA guy in a street fight where I can eye gouge, bite, grab/kick/punch the groin, crack knees, etc.  You take away an MMA fighters ability to fight on the ground and you eliminate 50% of his efficacy.  Now put me in a ring with an MMA fighter with rules and I'd have my ass handed to me.  

The question if you really want to test an MMA's fighting ability is to put them in a street fight with someone 50lbs heavier than them and the tenacity to kill them.  I.e. a real life or death street situation.  

These MMA debates are bullshit.  And its obvious many on this board have no clue as to the difference between fighting and self defense.

But hey Bluto thinks being a soccer "hooligan" means you're a street fighter.  LMAO!  

you pretty much repeat what i already said in this thread and so we're in agreement

what i dont get is the last part, why wouldnt a soccer hooligan be a street fighter?

if i fight on the street, im not a street fighter? then what am i?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:06:18 PM
board is full of f##kin millionaires, a$$kickers, toughest men on the planet types. i'm assuming guys on here could beat a 2 week hungry 500lb lion in a cage.  these pro/semi-pro mma types would kill you clowns.  same jacka$$e$ i've seen in ERs. 

Speak for yourself dipshit.  I'm well trained in Vee Arnis Jitsu with tutilage and study under Professor David James.  The last people on earth I'd be scared of is a BJ Penn or other MMA schmoe.  The person I'd be scared of is someone who will bash my head in with a bat trying to steal my clothes or wallet.  Again you're a moron who knows nothing about the street.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2008, 02:06:55 PM
They would all respect me and Mars in the streets.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
No.


Why is this thread 3 pages? focking hell mate
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: freespirit on December 29, 2008, 02:07:39 PM
No.


Why is this thread 3 pages? focking hell mate

Americans are uptight.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
you pretty much repeat what i already said in this thread and so we're in agreement

what i dont get is the last part, why wouldnt a soccer hooligan be a street fighter?

if i fight on the street, im not a street fighter? then what am i?

someone who lives exclusively on the internet

and would shit their pants if they left the house

never mind get in a fight
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: freespirit on December 29, 2008, 02:08:56 PM
someone who lives exclusively on the internet

and would shit their pants if they left the house

never mind get in a fight

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
Ok first off MMA is in no way indicative of what happens in a street fight.  Anyone that thinks that has never been in a real fight.  I would have no problem fighting an MMA guy in a street fight where I can eye gouge, bite, grab/kick/punch the groin, crack knees, etc.  You take away an MMA fighters ability to fight on the ground and you eliminate 50% of his efficacy.  Now put me in a ring with an MMA fighter with rules and I'd have my ass handed to me.  

The question if you really want to test an MMA's fighting ability is to put them in a street fight with someone 50lbs heavier than them and the tenacity to kill them.  I.e. a real life or death street situation.  

These MMA debates are bullshit.  And its obvious many on this board have no clue as to the difference between fighting and self defense.

But hey Bluto thinks being a soccer "hooligan" means you're a street fighter.  LMAO!  

odds are against you even if you are 50lbs heavier than silva.  he will get off faster than you, he wont be throwing the girlie winging punches and so forth.  fuck!  just go pic a fight with him or wand and show us the pictures.


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2576993912_dc87158208.jpg)

guys on this board are the same jacks that end up in the ER after last call after talking s##t to the wrong cat after 1:00am.  i've got too many stories to tell.  

i'm 5'10"228 and afro descent, since you fools think we all got great natural physiques and all that nonsense..  i'd pass on these cats in a minute
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:10:48 PM
(http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a29/gerardsmithis/BrockGod.jpg)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2008, 02:12:12 PM
Who are those two queers dancing on the beach?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:12:43 PM
someone who lives exclusively on the internet

and would shit their pants if they left the house

never mind get in a fight

and yet ive been gone all christmas, for over a week where as you spent every single day here posting

sounds like your describing yourself there!  :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:13:46 PM
and yet ive been gone all christmas, for over a week where as you spent every single day here posting

sounds like your describing yourself there!  :D

the irony of your near 33000 posts is lost on you
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:15:13 PM
and of course freespirit been online all christmas too, including christmas eve (that is the day its celebrated in europe)

what a life he must live!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:15:38 PM
odds are against you even if you are 50lbs heavier than silva.  he will get off faster than you, he wont be throwing the girlie winging punches and so forth.  fuck!  just go pic a fight with him or wand and show us the pictures.


(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3055/2576993912_dc87158208.jpg)

guys on this board are the same jacks that end up in the ER after last call after talking s##t to the wrong cat after 1:00am.  i've got too many stories to tell.  

i'm 5'10"228 and afro descent, since you fools think we all got great natural physiques and all that nonsense..  i'd pass on these cats in a minute

No my point is that MMA nowadays everyone is the same size.  You think a BJ Penn would ever fight a Wanda?  Of course not.  That's my point.  I wasn't saying just because someone is 50lbs heavier.  The original MMA UFC fights Gracie was putting chokes on guys outweighing him by 100-150lbs.  Those were the only fights that were realistic as far as a street fight.  But even in those fights there were no eye gouging, groin kicks/punches/biting etc.  No finger locks.  Let me ask are you belted in any type of martial art?  Boxing?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:16:18 PM
the irony of your near 33000 posts is lost on you

fact remains - you spent your whole christmas holiday on getbig, i didnt.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:16:53 PM
But even in those fights there were no eye gouging, groin kicks/punches/biting etc.  No finger locks.  Let me ask are you belted in any type of martial art?  Boxing?


Yes there were retard.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 02:17:06 PM
the irony of your near 33000 posts is lost on you
LOL. Nice!

/and gimmicks and alphabet board posts, etc.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:17:33 PM
No my point is that MMA nowadays everyone is the same size.  You think a BJ Penn would ever fight a Wanda?  Of course not.  That's my point.  I wasn't saying just because someone is 50lbs heavier.  The original MMA UFC fights Gracie was putting chokes on guys outweighing him by 100-150lbs.  Those were the only fights that were realistic as far as a street fight.  But even in those fights there were no eye gouging, groin kicks/punches/biting etc.  No finger locks.  Let me ask are you belted in any type of martial art?  Boxing?

but then eye gouging groin kicks etc is total bullshit in a street fight anyway

which shows you never been in one and is talking shit.

haha finger locks? give me a fucking break.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:17:48 PM
fact remains - you spent your whole christmas holiday on getbig, i didnt.

202 days online bluto

your gimmicks were still posting

i have kids and a wife thats why i stay at home


you have no life thats the diference "player"
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:18:40 PM
LOL. Nice!

/and gimmicks and alphabet board posts, etc.

says dr chimps, another guy addicted to getbig that rather than be with his family spent christmas on getbig...

it's good you retards support eachother in your addiction!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2008, 02:19:11 PM
but then eye gouging groin kicks etc is total bullshit in a street fight anyway

which shows you never been in one and is talking shit.

haha finger locks? give me a fucking break.



Bluto's finishing move is the chicken choke.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:19:33 PM
says dr chimps, another guy addicted to getbig that rather than be with his family spent christmas on getbig...

it's good you retards support eachother in your addiction!

Please go back to Not posting again. We all enjoyed it.


Thank you   :)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
Bluto's finishing move is the penis choke.

fixed
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
202 days online bluto

your gimmicks were still posting

i have kids and a wife thats why i stay at home


you have no life thats the diference "player"

you have kids and wife and is trapped at home in front of your computer.

well thanks for showing the rest of us what a life you got...

 ::)

sounds like a prisoner.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:20:21 PM
Here's a taste of my training.  


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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:20:41 PM
you have kids and wife and is trapped at home in front of your computer.

well thanks for showing the rest of us what a life you got...

 ::)

sounds like a prisoner.

its called being an adult

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:22:21 PM
Here's a taste of my training.  


&feature=related
&feature=related

Thats the Exact type of traning that doesnt give you SHIT.

In a real knife fight boom everything you learned is gone.
Trying to grab the knife from the attackers is the most retarded thing ever.

you RUN.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:22:30 PM
its called being an adult



it's called "life is over"

and its over for you
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:23:08 PM
but then eye gouging groin kicks etc is total bullshit in a street fight anyway

which shows you never been in one and is talking shit.

haha finger locks? give me a fucking break.



You stupid fuck when someone has you on the ground and tries to put locks on you and what not biting and eye gouging is VERY EFFECTIVE.  

And Swede you are the other stupid fuck. There were no groin kicks or punches moron.  It was grounds for disqualification.  And in current MMA even moreso.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:23:51 PM
it's called "life is over"

and its over for you

spoken like the virgin you are

202 days online 33000 posts

quite the life you have  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:24:52 PM
Thats the Exact type of traning that doesnt give you SHIT.

In a real knife fight boom everything you learned is gone.
Trying to grab the knife from the attackers is the most retarded thing ever.

you RUN.

You're a stupid fuck!  In a self defense situation you don't always have the chance to run.  Come out to Brooklyn and put your money where your mouth is fuck stick.  Our doors are open to anyone who thinks they know better.  Professor James would school your punk ass. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2008, 02:24:57 PM
Trust in Rex...


(http://www.unbridledmartialarts.com/Working%20Documents/News/Rex%20Kwon%20Do%201.jpg)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: divcom on December 29, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
No my point is that MMA nowadays everyone is the same size.  You think a BJ Penn would ever fight a Wanda?  Of course not.  That's my point.  I wasn't saying just because someone is 50lbs heavier.  The original MMA UFC fights Gracie was putting chokes on guys outweighing him by 100-150lbs.  Those were the only fights that were realistic as far as a street fight.  But even in those fights there were no eye gouging, groin kicks/punches/biting etc.  No finger locks.  Let me ask are you belted in any type of martial art?  Boxing?

i'm done w/this thread.  where is that guy who runs the schmoe wrestling site...so i can sign up for sessions with andrulla?  ;)  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:25:19 PM
You stupid fuck when someone has you on the ground and tries to put locks on you and what not biting and eye gouging is VERY EFFECTIVE.  

And Swede you are the other stupid fuck. There were no groin kicks or punches moron.  It was grounds for disqualification.  And in current MMA even moreso.

LOOK AT THE OLF UFC FIGHTS GROIN KICKS WERE ALLOWED YOU STUPID FICK WHY WOULD I SAY THEY WERE IS THEY WASNT?!?!?!

look is up you FUCKING RETARD!!!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 02:26:11 PM
says dr chimps, another guy addicted to getbig that rather than be with his family spent christmas on getbig...

it's good you retards support eachother in your addiction!
Assisted living meltdown!   ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:26:45 PM
You're a stupid fuck!  In a self defense situation you don't always have the chance to run.  Come out to Brooklyn and put your money where your mouth is fuck stick.  Our doors are open to anyone who thinks they know better.  Professor James would school your punk ass. 

you push the fucker away then you ....run.

you obviously dont know shit.  WOW you train in brooklyn OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.
I had an relative that lived in brooklyn and he wasnt bragging about it like a fucking retard like you are.

do your teacher says, if a dude pulls a knife at you you go in for WRISTCONTROL!!

hahaha, try that in REAL life and lets see what happends.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:27:16 PM
You stupid fuck when someone has you on the ground and tries to put locks on you and what not biting and eye gouging is VERY EFFECTIVE.  

And Swede you are the other stupid fuck. There were no groin kicks or punches moron.  It was grounds for disqualification.  And in current MMA even moreso.

why would someone have me on the ground and try to put locks on me?

what are the chances i run into bj penn on the street?  ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:27:56 PM
spoken like the virgin you are

202 days online 33000 posts

quite the life you have  ;D

and yet i didnt spend all christmas holidays on here - YOU did.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
LOOK AT THE OLF UFC FIGHTS GROIN KICKS WERE ALLOWED YOU STUPID FICK WHY WOULD I SAY THEY WERE IS THEY WASNT?!?!?!

look is up you FUCKING RETARD!!!

Oops my bad they were allowed.  BUT NO ONE DID THEM FUCK STICK MORON!

Although "There are no rules!" was the tagline in the early 1990s, this was not strictly true; the UFC operated with limited rules. There was no biting, no eye gouging, and techniques such as hair pulling, headbutting, groin strikes and fish hooking were frowned upon, but allowed. In fact, in a UFC 4 qualifying match, two competitors Jason Fairn and Guy Mezger agreed not to pull hair as they both wore pony tails tied back for the match. Additionally, that same event saw a matchup between Keith Hackney and Joe Son in which Hackney unleashed a series of groin shots against Joe Son while on the ground. UFC was similarly characterized, especially in the early days, as an extremely violent sport, as evidenced by a disclaimer in the beginning of the UFC 5 broadcast which warned audiences of the violent nature of the event. A brief appearance of a match in the 1995 film Virtuosity likely did little to change this perception.

A guess a guy who's about to steal your wallet is going to agree "hey buddy don't worry if we get into it I won't pull your hair or kick your nuts".  You're a dipshit Swede.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:29:10 PM
i think it's safe to say MuscleMcMannus never been in a fight in his life.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:29:36 PM
and yet i didnt spend all christmas holidays on here - YOU did.


you are living the dream bro  ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:30:04 PM
i'd kick MuscleMcMannus' anus both in and outside of the cage  :)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Showstoppa on December 29, 2008, 02:30:17 PM
There needs to be some curb stompin' up in this thread....take it to da screets!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
why would someone have me on the ground and try to put locks on me?

what are the chances i run into bj penn on the street?  ::)

If someone is twice your size or if you are pinned against a car, a wall, in a bar.  Chances are that lots of guys who are trained in martial arts would try to put a lock on you.  I mean are you a fucktard?  Many altercations end up on the ground.  It's very easy for people to lose their balance during a brawl.  Add into it multpile attackes and you really are a moron when it comes to fighting.  Go back to fishing in your underwear dork!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:31:37 PM
Oops my bad they were allowed.  BUT NO ONE DID THEM FUCK STICK MORON!

Fucking hell, just do what I say.

They occurred often back in the day.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 02:32:00 PM
and yet i didnt spend all christmas holidays on here - YOU did.

Hehe. Sounds like Old Bluto's been looking at some post histories. Not good.  :-\
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 29, 2008, 02:32:38 PM
Hehe. Sounds like Old Bluto's been looking at some post histories. Not good.  :-\

he has nothing better to do
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:32:58 PM
i'd kick MuscleMcMannus' anus both in and outside of the cage  :)

Come up to Brooklyn New York asswipe.  I guarantee you'd walk away with your tighty whities around your pale, ugly mug.  

4202 Avenue U & Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn NY 11234

I'll even post our address for you tough guy.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:33:34 PM
If someone is twice your size or if you are pinned against a car, a wall, in a bar.  Chances are that lots of guys who are trained in martial arts would try to put a lock on you.  I mean are you a fucktard?  Many altercations end up on the ground.  It's very easy for people to lose their balance during a brawl.  Add into it multpile attackes and you really are a moron when it comes to fighting.  Go back to fishing in your underwear dork!

hoho not only have you not been in a fight, you never witnessed one either  :)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:34:15 PM
Fucking hell, just do what I say.

They occurred often back in the day.

Why don't you take your lazy ass over to Youtube and post up the fights then if they happened "often".  I guess all those times Gracie took Dan Severan to the floor Dan was pounding him in his nuts right?   ::)  Gracie has balls of steal right?  LOL.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:36:10 PM
Why don't you take your lazy ass over to Youtube and post up the fights then if they happened "often".  I guess all those times Gracie took Dan Severan to the floor Dan was pounding him in his nuts right?   ::)  Gracie has balls of steal right?  LOL.  

just kill youself and do the world a favour please.


(http://i43.tinypic.com/29pbtxi.jpg)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:36:38 PM
Come up to Brooklyn New York asswipe.  I guarantee you'd walk away with your tighty whities around your pale, ugly mug.  

4202 Avenue U & Flatbush Avenue Brooklyn NY 11234

I'll even post our address for you tough guy.  

"our" address?

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:36:57 PM
Why don't you take your lazy ass over to Youtube and post up the fights then if they happened "often".  I guess all those times Gracie took Dan Severan to the floor Dan was pounding him in his nuts right?   ::)  Gracie has balls of steal right?  LOL.  

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:37:08 PM
you push the fucker away then you ....run.

you obviously dont know shit.  WOW you train in brooklyn OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.
I had an relative that lived in brooklyn and he wasnt bragging about it like a fucking retard like you are.

do your teacher says, if a dude pulls a knife at you you go in for WRISTCONTROL!!

hahaha, try that in REAL life and lets see what happends.

I'm not bragging about Brooklyn idiot.  I'm telling you that why don't you come up to our place and put your money where your mouth is.  If you think the principles are worthless then prove Professor James wrong.  Show him why they won't work.  No one said anything about wrist locks idiot.  Most of our knife defense principles are focused on striking and blocking.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:38:43 PM


Haha he's got a CUP ON MORON!  Plus all the guy had to do was turn his head an inch and bite the shit out of his side instead of smashing his balls. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: mass 04 on December 29, 2008, 02:39:47 PM
shouldn't "muscle mcmannus" be sucking off dante for 'training advice'?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:40:07 PM
muscle in the anus how come you know so much about fighting yet never had a fight, inside the cage or outside the cage  ???
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:40:53 PM
and for the record, i'd beat that guy "swede" too only it wouldnt be fair to fight a midget!  :)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 02:41:36 PM
muscle in the anus how come you know so much about fighting yet never had a fight, inside the cage or outside the cage  ???
You're just some wheelchair kickin' bad mofo, eh, Bluto? Oy Vey.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:41:44 PM
Haha he's got a CUP ON MORON!  Plus all the guy had to do was turn his head an inch and bite the shit out of his side instead of smashing his balls. 

yeah it doesnt hurt then.

YOU ARE A MORON.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Fury on December 29, 2008, 02:42:16 PM
A normal guy? Probably not. A normal Getbigger? Of course. Said MMA fighter would probably crap his pants and run home before a punch was even thrown.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:42:30 PM
You're just some wheelchair kickin' bad mofo, eh, Bluto? Oy Vey.  

id kick your ass too chumps, make no mistake about it

spinning round house kick to your temple, a technique that ive mastered through the years
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Fury on December 29, 2008, 02:44:00 PM
Bluto claims to have cage fought and trained muay thai longer than Wanderlei Silva and CroCop.  ::)

I wouldn't be surprised if Bluto's real name was Buakaw Por Pramuk.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Method101 on December 29, 2008, 02:44:31 PM
Haha he's got a CUP ON MORON!  Plus all the guy had to do was turn his head an inch and bite the shit out of his side instead of smashing his balls. 
If you have to bite/pull clothes etc. to stand up to somone in a fight you will look like a bitch and in your case you are a bitch.

P.s,
only on getbig could you post somthing like i did on page 2 and it gets completly bypassed  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:45:05 PM
Bluto claims to have cage fought and trained muay thai longer than Wanderlei Silva and CroCop.  ::)

I wouldn't be surprised if Bluto's real name was Buakaw Por Pramuk.

Considering the current status of wanderlei and cropcop i think it's insulting to compare those chumps to me
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:45:48 PM
If you have to bite/pull clothes etc. to stand up to somone in a fight you will look like a bitch and in your case you are a bitch.

P.s,
only on getbig could you post somthing like i did on page 2 and it gets completly bypassed  ;D

He is so retarded its not even funny.

Cant wait until someone pulls a knife on him and he yells  "WRISTCONTROL!!" and the next training sessions hi shows upp all cut up and scarred to his coach telling him "wrist control didnt work sir." and the coach says "ofcourse it does you just did it wrong."  and he answers "thats probably it, please let my pay yopu another 500 dollars for worthless training sessions"
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:46:00 PM
MuscleMcManus seems to bring his expertise in using his mouth a lot into the argument  ??? I think its safe to say that a lot of "biting" goes on at the dojo in brooklyn
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
id kick your ass too chumps, make no mistake about it

spinning round house kick to your temple, a technique that ive mastered through the years
LOL. Did you just actually post that!? Sad. Better up those meds, bro.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:54:03 PM
This is bluto haha

(http://drewpickles.com/files/rocker.gif)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 02:56:56 PM
LOL. Did you just actually post that!? Sad. Better up those meds, bro.

how you gonna defend against it tho? its lightning fast
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 02:57:33 PM
If you have to bite/pull clothes etc. to stand up to somone in a fight you will look like a bitch and in your case you are a bitch.

P.s,
only on getbig could you post somthing like i did on page 2 and it gets completly bypassed  ;D

Haha.  You're a fucking idiot too.  Yeah I guess if someone wants to kill you for your Ipod and Jordans you're going to fight like a man huh?  Go back to your fairy tale world of Xbox and MMA loser.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
Haha.  You're a fucking idiot too.  Yeah I guess if someone wants to kill you for your Ipod and Jordans you're going to fight like a man huh?  Go back to your fairy tale world of Xbox and MMA loser.  

well muscleanus you would yell WRISTCONTROL again and in the process make them steal their own wallets
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:02:09 PM
how you gonna defend against it tho? its lightning fast
Lightning smightning. I'd just throw a wheel boot on your chair and have at you. Might even have a beer or two between windmills just so I's don't break a sweat.  ;)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:04:16 PM
Lightning smightning. I'd just throw a wheel boot on your chair and have at you. Might even have a beer or two between windmills just so I's don't break a sweat.  ;)

dream on chumps, that drunken monkey kung fu aint gonna work against me
besides, you never leave your house as your post history shows !
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Fury on December 29, 2008, 03:04:59 PM
dream on chumps, that drunken monkey kung fu aint gonna work against me
besides, you never leave your house as your post history shows !

General Statistics - Bluto
   
Total Time Spent Online:    202 days, 3 hours and 27 minutes.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:09:14 PM
General Statistics - Bluto
   
Total Time Spent Online:    202 days, 3 hours and 27 minutes.

berzerkfury - spent the whole christmas on getbig, every single day
bluto - gone all christmas + many more days.

imagine that, so addicted to getbig you cant even give it a break during christmas holidays...  :'(
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 03:12:12 PM
berzerkfury - spent the whole christmas on getbig, every single day
bluto - gone all christmas + many more days.

imagine that, so addicted to getbig you cant even give it a break during christmas holidays...  :'(

Dude give it a rest.  You're a fucking pale, out of shape, elderly european soccer hooligan.  Rough housing after a match with your toothless fellow hooligans is the depth of your "fighting" experience.  Your "training" probably equates to masturbating to pictures of Stallone.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:13:11 PM
Dude give it a rest.  You're a fucking pale, out of shape, elderly european soccer hooligan.  Rough housing after a match with your toothless fellow hooligans is the depth of your "fighting" experience.  Your "training" probably equates to masturbating to pictures of Stallone.

wheres your picture? dont tell me youre one of these guys that talk shit about others but dont dare to show yourself? and us hooligans dont need to train, we just need to fight !
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 03:13:35 PM
wheres your picture? dont tell me youre one of these guys that talk shit about others but dont dare to show yourself?

Like yourself?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:14:34 PM
Like yourself?

nope, i dont do that
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:15:44 PM
Like yourself?
Graduate of the Squadfather School of logic, obviously!  ::)

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 03:17:27 PM
wheres your picture? dont tell me youre one of these guys that talk shit about others but dont dare to show yourself? and us hooligans dont need to train, we just need to fight !

Nah I'd never post my pics.  I mean shit my physique pales in comparison to most on here.  How can I compete with QuakerOats, AXA, Bluto, Spermatease?  They are massive, muscular beasts! 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:18:22 PM
Nah I'd never post my pics.  I mean shit my physique pales in comparison to most on here.  How can I compete with QuakerOats, AXA, Bluto, Spermatease?  They are massive, muscular beasts! 

so how are we gonna know who you are when we show up to fight you at that address you posted earlier  ???
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:22:17 PM
so how are we gonna know who you are when we show up to fight you at that address you posted earlier  ???
So what does your knowing what he looks like have anything to do with your ass being kicked? That's chapter one, Sun Tsu. Checkmate, I think.  ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:24:27 PM
So what does your knowing what he looks like have anything to do with your ass being kicked? That's chapter one, Sun Tsu. Checkmate, I think.  ::)

everybody gets their ass kicked sometimes doesnt mean they cant be awesome!!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:27:09 PM
everybody gets their ass kicked sometimes doesnt mean they cant be awesome!!
LOL. That's a koan if I ever heard one. Fight on, MacDuff!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:28:32 PM
LOL. That's a koan if I ever heard one. Fight on, MacDuff!

very rare with fighters that are undefeated !!!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:30:31 PM
very rare with fighters that are undefeated !!!

What's your wheel diameter weight class?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 03:32:43 PM
The MMA fighter will kill a normal dude if he is skilled and the normal dude = fights alone. In very few instances will the MMA fighter loose, although shit like taking the fight to the ground = not that smart on the street (unless the MMA fighter = sure that there = nobody that will jump in and help the asshole the MMA dude = fighting)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 03:34:10 PM
The MMA fighter will kill a normal dude if he is skilled and the normal dude = fights alone. In very few instances will the MMA fighter loose, although shit like taking the fight to the ground = not that smart on the street (unless the MMA fighter = sure that there = nobody that will jump in and help the asshole the MMA dude = fighting)

take somebody down = BAAAM a kick to your face from his friend.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 03:35:50 PM
take somebody down = BAAAM a kick to your face from his friend.

Exactly what Debussey wrote. Here one can benefit from having trained some Krav Maga. Hits to the throat and balls, keys to the eyes and such, and the "defend and attack simultaneously" technique. Even Bas Rutten praises Krav Maga in his "Lethal self defence" video :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
MMA fighters are trained to be cool while people who fist fight on the street are fighting out of fear. When you are trained in combat and are calm, you should be able to beat the shit out of someone who's not a skilled fighter and is in a fear stricken state.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 29, 2008, 03:45:58 PM
MMA fighters are trained to be cool while people who fist fight on the street are fighting out of fear. When you are trained in combat and are calm, you should be able to beat the shit out of someone who's not a skilled fighter and is in a fear stricken state.

no.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 03:52:21 PM
no.
That's a weak troll, even for you, Bluto.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Topskin69 on December 29, 2008, 03:54:36 PM
What a lot of you are failing to realize is that the most important factor in a street fight is the willingness of one person to inflict real pain to another.

Another thing to consider is that there are many variables in a street fight. While BJJ is probably the best martial art to know in a one-on-one situation, it doesn't prepare you for what to do if your opponent has a weapon, or if he has friends.

Trying to triangle choke someone on the ground isnt going to do much good if 6 of the guys friends are ready to kick your head in, for your effort.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 03:56:22 PM
That's a weak troll, even for you, Bluto.


In Norway, the most highly regarded adventures for kids contains a mystical creature named a "Troll", very Norwegianish. The Troll is a couple of meters tall with long gray hair, and it lives in a mountain. It seems scary, but it is often very nice when the adventure creatures talks to it.

Classic Norwegian Trolls:

(http://home.online.no/~bjaholte/troll.jpg)


(http://www.trollhula.no/bilder/troll.jpg)

(http://www.nssk.no/PRA/Auksj/troll-laila2.jpg)

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 04:01:52 PM

In Norway, the most highly regarded adventures for kids contains a mystical creature named a "Troll", very Norwegianish. The Troll is a couple of meters tall with long gray hair, and it lives in a mountain. It seems scary, but it is often very nice when the adventure creatures talks to it.

Classic Norwegian Trolls:
You are an educator, Db.  ;D

/isn't there icelandic troll-crossing signs, or is that something i made up?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 04:07:14 PM
You are an educator, Db.  ;D

/isn't there icelandic troll-crossing signs, or is that something i made up?

Have no idea. The Icelandic people talks funny and they are pale as the day = long.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 04:16:28 PM
Classic, classic thread.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: dr.chimps on December 29, 2008, 04:18:02 PM
Classic, classic thread.
*Kiss of Death*   :-\
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 04:19:27 PM

In Norway, the most highly regarded adventures for kids contains a mystical creature named a "Troll", very Norwegianish. The Troll is a couple of meters tall with long gray hair, and it lives in a mountain. It seems scary, but it is often very nice when the adventure creatures talks to it.

Classic Norwegian Trolls:

(http://home.online.no/~bjaholte/troll.jpg)


(http://www.trollhula.no/bilder/troll.jpg)

(http://www.nssk.no/PRA/Auksj/troll-laila2.jpg)



haha my mom has a tons of those trolls at home.

AS a matter of fact, she used to make them and sell them when she was at some place cant remember what its called some expo of some short.


And when we were out fishing in norway bestefar used to point at the cliff where the was a huuuge hole and tell me that the troll lived there  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 04:21:38 PM
*Kiss of Death*   :-\

Sorry.  I thought it was winding down.  :-[
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 04:23:02 PM
haha my mom has a tons of those trolls at home.

AS a matter of fact, she used to make them and sell them when she was at some place cant remember what its called some expo of some short.


And when we were out fishing in norway bestefar used to point at the cliff where the was a huuuge hole and tell me that the troll lived there  ;D

Seems like your relatives have taught you some quality cultural stuff  8)  With this in mind, Debussey = looking forward to our MMA fight 8)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 04:26:30 PM
no.

You ever fought someone in school? You are in an anxious state and you purpose is the beat the shit out of the other guy asap by throwing as many punches as possible. It isn't some elaborate drawn out duel.

A skilled fighter should be able to beat that.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 04:27:16 PM
Seems like your relatives have taught you some quality cultural stuff  8)  With this in mind, Debussey = looking forward to our MMA fight 8)

I will submit you in a rear naked cockhold!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 04:31:46 PM
Guess there's just no stopping this thing.  Everyone's in a fightin mood now.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: mass 04 on December 29, 2008, 04:32:06 PM
i know nothing about fighting, but it seems stupid to think that a regular guy would beat someone who has been training to fight his whole life, IN A FIGHT.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 04:34:25 PM
i know nothing about fighting, but it seems stupid to think that a regular guy would beat someone who has been training to fight his whole life, IN A FIGHT.

This thread will teach you everything you need to know.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 04:39:12 PM
I will submit you in a rear naked cockhold!

 :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
i know nothing about fighting, but it seems stupid to think that a regular guy would beat someone who has been training to fight his whole life, IN A FIGHT.

There is a difference between fighting and self defense.  Knowing how to defend yourself from an attacker be it an MMA guy or a street punk and fighting toe to toe with an experienced practitioner are two VERY different things.  Anyone that steps into the ring with an MMA guy will likely get his ass handed to him.  Most people who try to fight an MMA guy in the street will probably end up seriously injured.  But defending yourself against an attacker be it an MMA guy or a highly trained martial arts practitioner is very feasible.  That's taking into account conditioning, physical stamina are somewhat on par.  If you take a fat couch potato of course he'll pretty much have his ass handed to him in any scenario. 

Most guys on this board with several months of practical sefl defense instruction (I say self defense NOT martial arts) would be able to physically handle themselves in most situations.  Now, handling themselves emotionally and psychologically is individual. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 04:52:16 PM
muscleanus stoop juuuust stoooop
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 04:55:42 PM
muscleanus stoop juuuust stoooop

Hey meatball STFU! And go back to primping in the mirror with your ugly mug and puny upper body. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 05:02:10 PM
Lots of real life bad asses in this thread ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 29, 2008, 05:03:26 PM
Practicing sinawali, cob/cob, hubud lubud ligot does not a fighter make.  And if you don't think BJ would fight Wand, you don't know BJ.  A young Relson would have destroyed Professor V, much less David James.  And don't get me started on Krav Magda.  I have SEEN Relson fight on the streets, and let me tell you, he wasn't pulling guard.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
Exactly what Debussey wrote. Here one can benefit from having trained some Krav Maga. Hits to the throat and balls, keys to the eyes and such, and the "defend and attack simultaneously" technique. Even Bas Rutten praises Krav Maga in his "Lethal self defence" video :D  the ballistic striking in systema is usually more effective then traditional western boxing style striking.

I did a bit of Krav Maga a few years ago, to be honest I much prefer Systema, which is basically the Russian Special Forces version of Krav Maga :)







Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 29, 2008, 05:07:19 PM
I did a bit of Krav Maga a few years ago, to be honest I much prefer Systema, which is basically the Russian Special Forces version of Krav Maga :)









Vladimir Vasiliev, Chris Clugston, Robert Ferguson, all internets myths....
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: CalvinH on December 29, 2008, 05:07:41 PM
Your all a bunch of Neanderthals,who gets in a fight "In the street" ::)
 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 05:07:57 PM
I did a bit of Krav Maga a few years ago, to be honest I much prefer Systema, which is basically the Russian Special Forces version of Krav Maga :)









Looks interesting, and with gay-club music in the videos! yay!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:08:38 PM
I did a bit of Krav Maga a few years ago, to be honest I much prefer Systema, which is basically the Russian Special Forces version of Krav Maga :)




Worthless,
they practise the same move over and over again and then the film it.

If someone points a gun at you YOU WONT GRAB THEIR WRISTS I PROMISE YOU.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 05:09:16 PM
Your all a bunch of Neanderthals,who gets in a fight "In the street" ::)
 

Do bars count ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:09:17 PM
Vladimir Vasiliev, Chris Clugston, Robert Ferguson, all internets myths....

I trained under Vasiliev in Toronto,  myth huh? he taught the KGB and Spetznaz for 20 years, the guy would put you in a coma in under 5 seconds. :)

He's been tested by enough guys from a lot of the combat hapkido , jiu jitsu, muay thai clubs around toronto, not to mention a bunch of guys fromn Xtreme Couture.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:11:31 PM
I trained under Vasiliev in Toronto,  myth huh? he taught the KGB and Spetznaz for 20 years, the guy would put you in a coma in under 5 seconds. :)

He's been tested by enough guys from a lot of the combat hapkido , jiu jitsu, muay thai clubs around toronto, not to mention a bunch of guys fromn Xtreme Couture.


post video.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
I trained under Vasiliev in Toronto,  myth huh? he taught the KGB and Spetznaz for 20 years, the guy would put you in a coma in under 5 seconds. :)

He's been tested by enough guys from a lot of the combat hapkido , jiu jitsu, muay thai clubs around toronto, not to mention a bunch of guys fromn Xtreme Couture.



Bullshit, post a pic!  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:13:34 PM
Do bars count ;D

Are you saying while smashing a bottle over somebodys head their attempt to wrist control wouldnt go so well "SS" ?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: CalvinH on December 29, 2008, 05:13:57 PM
Do bars count ;D


Hahaha ;D,of course.especially if you do it like the old west,smash a bottle over his head,drag him face first down the entire the bar,then throw him through the bat wings door :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Internet Tough Guy on December 29, 2008, 05:15:24 PM


Barney also had ground skills so he anybody in MMA today would have been KTFO in seconds. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:17:23 PM
Post a pic of what? I haven't trained in Systema in about 3 years... Xtreme Couture just opened up here 6 months ago... a few of the guys that teach at Xtreme used to go to Systema yeasrs ago,as well as other schools in Toronto... I'm not sure what you're asking me to post, lol. Believe this, Vladimir is for real, the other guys on youtube and internet maybe be whatever, but this guy is a fucking badass killer, he was involved in a lot of black ops in the 80's when he was in Spetznaz (Russian equivalent of Navy Seals/Rangers)

I haven't seen anyone able to even hurt of phase him, the guy is a trained killer who doesn't do MMA, or fighting for sport, he does it and did it to kill people faster and easier. understand the difference. These aren't oiled up tapout wearing fairies in an octagon. These guys are the real deal.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 05:18:52 PM
post video.

Extreme Couture:

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:21:26 PM
I haven't seen anyone able to even hurt of phase him, the guy is a trained killer who doesn't do MMA, or fighting for sport, he does it and did it to kill people faster and easier. understand the difference. These aren't oiled up tapout wearing fairies in an octagon. These guys are the real deal.




hahahahaha!!!
Typical excuse from a guy that KNOW he would get KILLED in the ring hahaha.

" I dont do mma they touch each other they are fags im a killing machine "  ::) ::)


hahaha
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: G o a t b o y on December 29, 2008, 05:23:03 PM
you been looking at too much tv, there are some fucked up people here in england



Yeah, and they're all Muslim.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:25:04 PM

hahahahaha!!!
Typical excuse from a guy that KNOW he would get KILLED in the ring hahaha.

" I dont do mma they touch each other they are fags im a killing machine "  ::) ::)


hahaha

Hahaha.. ok, big words from some fat 18 year old punk from sweden of all places... lol, go eat a meatball or something internet killer

there's a difference between fighting for sport and fighting for life/survival.

if you weren't a little dumbass kid, you'd understand that.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:26:26 PM
Hahaha.. ok, big words from some fat 18 year old punk from sweden of all places... lol, go eat a meatball or something internet killer

there's a difference between fighting for sport and fighting for life/survival.

if you weren't a little dumbass kid, you'd understand that.


So ask him why he doesnt want to make millions in the UFC if he is such a killing MACHINE!! and unable to get hurt.

"because wrestling is gay" lol.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 05:28:50 PM
Hahaha.. ok, big words from some fat 18 year old punk from sweden of all places... lol, go eat a meatball or something internet killer

there's a difference between fighting for sport and fighting for life/survival.

if you weren't a little dumbass kid, you'd understand that.



His advantage in a life/death fight is probably that he instinctively goes for techniques + spots that kills or severely injures immediately, while an MMA fighter (without similar training) might go for less lethal ways of attacking.

But this advantage = useless in an MMA ring, and how it works against an MMA fighter in a real life fight = still difficult to know. Regardless of that, a guy that solely trains to kill in the quickest way possible = a very dangerous adversary.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 05:29:40 PM
So ask him why he doesnt want to make millions in the UFC if he is such a killing MACHINE!! and unable to get hurt.

"because wrestling is gay" lol.


You seem unable to comprehend the core of what = being discussed here Swede.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:29:52 PM
So ask him why he doesnt want to make millions in the UFC if he is such a killing MACHINE!! and unable to get hurt.

"because wrestling is gay" lol.

He's 50 with wife and young kids, runs a successfull training school, and still does consultation for special forces units around the world, including a systema seminar he just did a special presentation at the United Nations.

"SYSTEMA at the UNITED NATIONS!

Systema Founders Mikhail Ryabko and Vladimir Vasiliev received a personal invitation to present Russian Martial Art at the United Nations Headquarters in Manhattan on Wednesday, October 24th, 2007. This presentation was a great success with a possibility of a return in the future on a larger scale."
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:30:51 PM

His advantage in a life/death fight is probably that he instinctively goes for techniques + spots that kills or severely injures immediately, while an MMA fighter (without similar training) might go for less lethal ways of attacking.

But this advantage = useless in an MMA ring, and how it works against an MMA fighter in a real life fight = still difficult to know. Regardless of that, a guy that solely trains to kill in the quickest way possible = a very dangerous adversary.

I wonder what he would to if a stood 10m away with a gun pointed at him..

he would probably do a DOUBLE BACKFLIP KICKFLOP JUDO JUMP WRIST CONTROL SUPER MEGA SMASH BOX OFFICE MULTI MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE GRAB and KILL ME!

 ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:31:49 PM

You seem unable to comprehend the core of what = being discussed here Swede.

Someone should not claim to be super dangerous and havent even proved it against any mma guy.

If fedor said he was lethal and one of the most dangerous guys in the world I would believe him.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:32:55 PM
He's 50 with wife and young kids, runs a successfull training school, and still does consultation for special forces units around the world, including a systema seminar he just did a special presentation at the United Nations.

Russia has some tough ass mma trainers though.

I just dont respect self defence classes sry.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 05:33:24 PM
I wonder what he would to if a stood 10m away with a gun pointed at him..

he would probably do a DOUBLE BACKFLIP KICKFLOP JUDO JUMP WRIST CONTROL SUPER MEGA SMASH BOX OFFICE MULTI MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE GRAB and KILL ME!

 ;D

He'd be dead in under 2 seconds lol




Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:33:42 PM
I wonder what he would to if a stood 10m away with a gun pointed at him..

he would probably do a DOUBLE BACKFLIP KICKFLOP JUDO JUMP WRIST CONTROL SUPER MEGA SMASH BOX OFFICE MULTI MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE GRAB and KILL ME!

 ;D

Oh come on dude, now you're just talking bullshit, obviously from a certain distance no one has a chance against a weapon like a gun. The minimum disarmament distance for a gun I believe is 9 feet (distance at which you can reach the gun before the guy puts enough pressure on the trigger to fire)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:35:31 PM
Someone should not claim to be super dangerous and havent even proved it against any mma guy.

If fedor said he was lethal and one of the most dangerous guys in the world I would believe him.

Vladimir is good friends with Fedor, they see each other about twice a year.

I've seen the pictures of them together in his office, so save it,

And since when is an MMA fighter the ultimate danger in the world? you idiot, do you realize how many trained killers there are in special forces units around the world ??!?

you really are lost.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
I remember in school when this female jujistu (not bjj lol) came and trained our class in self defence, and one segment was how a girl should defend herself while being grabbed from behind before rape etc.

Anyway she shoved us this wrist after someone his holding you around you waist you grab their wrist turn a bit and they go down.

I said there is no way in hell if a 200 pound guy walks up to a 100 pound girl, grabs her around the waist that the girl could to that.

So I asked her to prove it  ;D  Anyway I took me female friend in the class after they have learned it, grabben her around the waist and said try what you just learned.
She could get my hands loose at all. OFCOURSE I already knew this.

The techer said thats because she hadnt practised it, So I asked if I could try it on her then...
She declined and said she is here to teach not so show us...

I hope you understand my spelling lol

 ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:38:02 PM
Oh come on dude, now you're just talking bullshit, obviously from a certain distance no one has a chance against a weapon like a gun. The minimum disarmament distance for a gun I believe is 9 feet (distance at which you can reach the gun before the guy puts enough pressure on the trigger to fire)


BULLSHIT haha.

are you telling me you can stand 9 fucking feet away from me, with me aiming a gun at your chest and you will be able to grab it before I shot you? haha
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:40:42 PM
I remember in school when this female jujistu (not bjj lol) came and trained our class in self defence, and one segment was how a girl should defend herself while being grabbed from behind before rape etc.

Anyway she shoved us this wrist after someone his holding you around you waist you grab their wrist turn a bit and they go down.

I said there is no way in hell if a 200 pound guy walks up to a 100 pound girl, grabs her around the waist that the girl could to that.

So I asked her to prove it  ;D  Anyway I took me female friend in the class after they have learned it, grabben her around the waist and said try what you just learned.
She could get my hands loose at all. OFCOURSE I already knew this.

The techer said thats because she hadnt practised it, So I asked if I could try it on her then...
She declined and said she is here to teach not so show us...

I hope you understand my spelling lol

 ::)

I think we're talking about different things here dude, Systema is not self defense, it's not some bullshit class females take so they don't get raped, this is a system designed by the KGB for Russian Special Forces to be used in life or death situations, to kill and disarm multiple oppoents while maintaining economy of motion (using least energy possible)   MMA is sport fighting, at no time is your life realistically in danger, the referee is there to ensure that and there are no fatal strikes that kill you on the spot.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:40:47 PM
Is this guy by any chance your trainer?


Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:42:00 PM
I think we're talking about different things here dude, Systema is not self defense, it's not some bullshit class females take so they don't get raped, this is a system designed by the KGB for Russian Special Forces to be used in life or death situations, to kill and disarm multiple oppoents while maintaining economy of motion (using least energy possible)   MMA is sport fighting, at no time is your life realistically in danger, the referee is there to ensure that and there are no fatal strikes that kill you on the spot.


I understand, just dont say he is a killing machine.
I doubt he could "kill" a charging brock lesnar in 10 sec. even with all his fancy moves combined.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 05:43:58 PM
Is this guy by any chance your trainer?




lmao
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 05:46:40 PM
I understand, just dont say he is a killing machine.
I doubt he could "kill" a charging brock lesnar in 10 sec. even with all his fancy moves combined.

You really are clueless dude, have you ever seen or known any guys in Special Forces? most guys on the U.S seal teams are under 6"0 and 180lbs.  yet I'm sure you would crush them in a hand to hand fight?
they're that way for a reason, so they blend in on missions and so they can get into tight locations
muscle in the real world is not a deciding factor, 180lb. Anderson Silva would absolutely annihilate any bodybuilder you could name, just like most elite special forces guys would destroy/kill any mma fighter out there because that's what they're trained to do.

damn, I can't decide if you're just that thick or if you're fucking with me, cause I didn't think anyone on this board was THAT  retarded.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 05:49:56 PM
Are you saying while smashing a bottle over somebodys head their attempt to wrist control wouldnt go so well "SS" ?
That or my black jack :D............My main worry is the guys that know pressure points ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 29, 2008, 05:53:01 PM
Practicing sinawali, cob/cob, hubud lubud ligot does not a fighter make.  And if you don't think BJ would fight Wand, you don't know BJ.  A young Relson would have destroyed Professor V, much less David James.  And don't get me started on Krav Magda.  I have SEEN Relson fight on the streets, and let me tell you, he wasn't pulling guard.  

Professor Vee is dead.  And David James is going on 50+ years you fuckstick.  But I'd love for Relson these days to step up to James.  David James is black belted in bjj.  My instructor Shihan John Petrone has grappled with the gracie brothers.  The Gracie brothers are very impressied with VAJ.  Just ask them!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 29, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
You really are clueless dude, have you ever seen or known any guys in Special Forces? most guys on the U.S seal teams are under 6"0 and 180lbs.  yet I'm sure you would crush them in a hand to hand fight?
they're that way for a reason, so they blend in on missions and so they can get into tight locations
muscle in the real world is not a deciding factor, 180lb. Anderson Silva would absolutely annihilate any bodybuilder you could name, just like most elite special forces guys would destroy/kill any mma fighter out there because that's what they're trained to do.

damn, I can't decide if you're just that thick or if you're fucking with me, cause I didn't think anyone on this board was THAT  retarded.


Uh, yeah.... ::)

Seen many a special forces guys get tapped, knocked on their asses, just plain dominated.  Lots of SEALS, Rangers, MEUSOC guys here in Hawaii, all are very respectful, and all of them would agree that any pro (BB, competing striker) would tear them up.  FranK Cucci got tore up by Egan Inoue, and he was a member of Seal Team 6.  Give him a Sig 226, MP5, M4 and it's another story.  Both guys are black belts in BJJ, but one is a pro, and one isn't.  Brock is an animal who would double someone, and slam them to their deaths in the street.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:56:22 PM
You really are clueless dude, have you ever seen or known any guys in Special Forces? most guys on the U.S seal teams are under 6"0 and 180lbs.  yet I'm sure you would crush them in a hand to hand fight?
they're that way for a reason, so they blend in on missions and so they can get into tight locations
muscle in the real world is not a deciding factor, 180lb. Anderson Silva would absolutely annihilate any bodybuilder you could name, just like most elite special forces guys would destroy/kill any mma fighter out there because that's what they're trained to do.

damn, I can't decide if you're just that thick or if you're fucking with me, cause I didn't think anyone on this board was THAT  retarded.

you are correct about everything Except. Your expert wouldnt be able to do SHIT against lesnar is he wanted to take him down.
It would look like the begining of the Mir fight. ON the floor within 2 sec.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 05:57:21 PM
It would be cool to watch Lesnar curb a foolio.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 05:58:35 PM
It would be cool to watch Lesnar curb a foolio.

It would be cool to see lesnar smother these self proclaimed KILLING MACHINES.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 29, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
you are correct about everything Except. Your expert wouldnt be able to do SHIT against lesnar is he wanted to take him down.
It would look like the begining of the Mir fight. ON the floor within 2 sec.

Lesnar trains with Greg Nelson, Erik Paulson who are better in Kali than David James, and is a better stand up fighters than Vladimar Vasilev.  Lesnar is a different animal.  Big, athletic, and skilled.  Very dangerous for anyone, in the cage or street.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: nicky.smth on December 29, 2008, 05:59:32 PM
( :D)


Great post ;D


But i think you have the wrong board
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:00:03 PM
Lesnar trains with Greg Nelson, Erik Paulson who are better in Kali than David James, and is a better stand up fighters than Vladimar Vasilev.  Lesnar is a different animal.  Big, athletic, and skilled.  Very dangerous for anyone, in the cage or street.  

if you stood 5 feet from lesnar, it doesnt fucking matter how much hand skill you have, if he wants to, he could take your ass down in a second.

This Cap EQ doesnt understand.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:01:08 PM
if you stood 5 feet from lesnar, it doesnt fucking matter how much hand skill you have, if he wants to, he could take your ass down in a second.

This Cap EQ doesnt understand.

The thing with Lesnar is that he also runs fucking fast, so he could probably get a hold of most people if they tried to run away  :o
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:01:23 PM
That or my black jack :D............My main worry is the guys that know pressure points ::)

Are you telling me that while you were stomping this trained killing machine in the head his attempt to find pressure points in your legs wouldt go so well?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 06:01:53 PM
Uh, yeah.... ::)

Seen many a special forces guys get tapped, knocked on their asses, just plain dominated.  Lots of SEALS, Rangers, MEUSOC guys here in Hawaii, all are very respectful, and all of them would agree that any pro (BB, competing striker) would tear them up.  FranK Cucci got tore up by Egan Inoue, and he was a member of Seal Team 6.  Give him a Sig 226, MP5, M4 and it's another story.  Both guys are black belts in BJJ, but one is a pro, and one isn't.  Brock is an animal who would double someone, and slam them to their deaths in the street.  

right see Mark Kerr vs Greg Stott lol UFC 15
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 06:02:34 PM
Are you telling me that while you were stomping this trained killing machine in the head his attempt to find pressure points in your legs wouldt go so well?
Yes I think my steel toes would get the best of him.....just saying.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:02:44 PM
The thing with Lesnar is that he also runs fucking fast, so he could probably get a hold of most people if they tried to run away  :o

Ofcourse he could.

"4.7 second 40-yard dash"
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 29, 2008, 06:04:50 PM
Prior to the first UFC there was two MMA dojos in the USA.  One in Red Bank NJ and one with Rorian Gracie in California.  I trained in the one in NJ and the same thing happened week after week.  A black belt in another art or some bar bad ass would come to learn about the new grappling art from Brazil. After one class the black belts would return with a white belt and many of the bar fighters wouldn't return.  

It's silly to think that a guy who doesn't train to fight would be effective against a MMA type fighter.  Is there a secret technique that you think isn't in the MMA artist arsenal?  

The reality of the street is that we are not apes.  We know how to use tools.  Guys carry and use knifes, clubs and guns.  I have nothing but respect for guys that train in a realistic fashion like MMA.  If you really want to know how it feels to punch and be punched join a boxing gym.  It will open your eyes and instantly let you know if you got the right stuff.  The same for the grappling arts.  

I for one have walked away from many a fight.  It seems the majority of guys only want to fight after using alcohol.  I actually said to guy, listen I don't want to fight you because you could kick my ass.  He gave a big smile and I walked away laughing to myself knowing he didn't have a clue what I was capable of.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 29, 2008, 06:07:21 PM
Prior to the first UFC there was two MMA dojos in the USA.  One in Red Bank NJ and one with Rorian Gracie in California.  I trained in the one in NJ and the same thing happened week after week.  A black belt in another art or some bar bad ass would come to learn about the new grappling art from Brazil. After one class the black belts would return with a white belt and many of the bar fighters wouldn't return.  

It's silly to think that a guy who doesn't train to fight would be effective against a MMA type fighter.  Is there a secret technique that you think isn't in the MMA artist arsenal?  

The reality of the street is that we are not apes.  We know how to use tools.  Guys carry and use knifes, clubs and guns.  I have nothing but respect for guys that train in a realistic fashion like MMA.  If you really want to know how it feels to punch and be punched join a boxing gym.  It will open your eyes and instantly let you know if you got the right stuff.  The same for the grappling arts.  

I for one have walked away from many a fight.  It seems the majority of guys only want to fight after using alcohol.  I actually said to guy, listen I don't want to fight you because you could kick my ass.  He gave a big smile and I walked away laughing to myself knowing he didn't have a clue what I was capable of.  

That's a secure man right there !! good for you.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:07:48 PM
He gave a big smile and I walked away laughing to myself knowing he didn't have a clue what I was capable of.  

I maby believe you. but dont write that type of shit.

Makes me remember the bullshit GX guy over at md, that got called guy straight to his face. didnt do shit, ran home posted it on md and bragged what he would do if he "unleased the fury"


If a guy wants to fight and you know you can take him you KICK HIS ASS AND LEARN HIMA  LESSON then maby he wont be so cocky in the future and maby you would save him from being killed when he messed with the wrong dude?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 06:14:16 PM
Prior to the first UFC there was two MMA dojos in the USA.  One in Red Bank NJ and one with Rorian Gracie in California.  I trained in the one in NJ and the same thing happened week after week.  A black belt in another art or some bar bad ass would come to learn about the new grappling art from Brazil. After one class the black belts would return with a white belt and many of the bar fighters wouldn't return.  

It's silly to think that a guy who doesn't train to fight would be effective against a MMA type fighter.  Is there a secret technique that you think isn't in the MMA artist arsenal?  

The reality of the street is that we are not apes.  We know how to use tools.  Guys carry and use knifes, clubs and guns.  I have nothing but respect for guys that train in a realistic fashion like MMA.  If you really want to know how it feels to punch and be punched join a boxing gym.  It will open your eyes and instantly let you know if you got the right stuff.  The same for the grappling arts.  

I for one have walked away from many a fight.  It seems the majority of guys only want to fight after using alcohol.  I actually said to guy, listen I don't want to fight you because you could kick my ass.  He gave a big smile and I walked away laughing to myself knowing he didn't have a clue what I was capable of.  

Exactly the right move.  Boys fight for pride and black eyes.  Men only fight if they have to.

Surely the Judo guys fared pretty well in Redbank?  There are some very capable grapplers in my class.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:15:14 PM
im starting to miss the good old wrestling classes where I almost died every single time due to my LACK of cardio lol.

damn legs =(
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:16:53 PM
im starting to miss the good old wrestling classes where I almost died every single time due to my LACK of cardio lol.

damn legs =(


How could a guy as short as you die from cardio pain? You're as short as mini-me for fuccs sake.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 29, 2008, 06:17:43 PM
I maby believe you. but dont write that type of shit.

Makes me remember the bullshit GX guy over at md, that got called guy straight to his face. didnt do shit, ran home posted it on md and bragged what he would do if he "unleased the fury"


If a guy wants to fight and you know you can take him you KICK HIS ASS AND LEARN HIMA  LESSON then maby he wont be so cocky in the future and maby you would save him from being killed when he messed with the wrong dude?





If it makes you feel better you could easily kick my ass too.  Are you happy now???
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:18:11 PM
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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:18:49 PM


If it makes you feel better you could easily kick my ass too.  Are you happy now???

stop it!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:19:17 PM
what? so exhausted that I almost died.. you understand now?

Now now I cant even jog nor run due to my lower legs, I cant ever walk fast :(
I'm like a skinny onlyme


Debussey was just saying that a 1 cm tall guy like yourself should not tire out.

Why = your legs shot? Been doing too much tap-dancing?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 06:21:40 PM
Any MMA fighter attacking me will have his face used as an ashtray as I put out my CAO Brazilia  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:22:39 PM
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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 06:25:05 PM
Lesnar trains with Greg Nelson, Erik Paulson who are better in Kali than David James, and is a better stand up fighters than Vladimar Vasilev.  Lesnar is a different animal.  Big, athletic, and skilled.  Very dangerous for anyone, in the cage or street.  

Dude, are you fucked ?!?!? V.V is a fucking ex special forces team leader/instructor he is not a fucking MMA fighter, has no interest in MMA and does not compete, to be more literal he has no practical stand up, except strikes meant to subdue, kill or cut off your breathing and equilibrium. What the fuck are you talking about ?!!?!

Honestly, you have MMA's head so far up your ass it's not even funny, like I was trying to illustrate before, there is a difference between fighting for sport/points and fighting for survival to the death with multiple opponents.

Oh and ROFL at how you all suck Brock Lesnar's dick, the guy's been doing MMA for 2 years and in your eyes he could kill anyone in the world... LOL, next week he's going to better then Fedor just because he's Brock and he's big!!!  LOLOLOL
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:25:48 PM
Too much soocer :(

lol, I dont know why, It all started when I did gym 5 times a week and kickboxning twice, then I ran from the 5-0 ghetto style, and my legs has been fucked up ever since, and thats like 3 years ago or something.

I have to get my ass to the hospital and see whats wrong. Nothing helps.

3 years of fucked up legs for a young man = get your ass to the hospital. You need to be in shape for GetFucked 1 - Svenske faan vs. Donguzi!
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:27:08 PM
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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 29, 2008, 06:30:07 PM
I would still be in MMA today if my legs werent fucked, probably competing and kicking ass! or getting my ass kicked.

I really need to sort those legs out.

Hahahaha!!!! OK tiger...looks like we got the next Royce Gracie here! what's your fighting record champ?


Hahaha.. :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:31:19 PM
I would still be in MMA today if my legs werent fucked, probably competing and kicking ass! or getting my ass kicked.

I really need to sort those legs out.


So what the hell are you waiting 3 years to get your fucked legs checked out by a medical professional for? Are you one of those guys that can't get their finger out of their ass and take action?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:32:06 PM
Hahahaha!!!! OK tiger...looks like we got the next Royce Gracie here! what's your fighting record champ?


Hahaha.. :D


COME AND FIND OUT homo  ;D ;D

I would wristcontrol you all the way back to usa.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 06:32:25 PM
Epic excuses  ::)

You're probably just scared of getting your ass kicked. That's a pretty valid fear and also deterrent.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:33:20 PM
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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:38:38 PM
Yep that's me.

But I hate doing things half ass either its 100% or nothing at all. So I dont know if I can combine mma with working out and getting biiig. So I dont know what to do = then I dont do nothing lol

Have you EVER done ANYTHING 100% in your life over a period of time longer than a few weeks (seriously)? And what the fuck do "I need to do something 100% or not do it at all" have to do with calling your doctor and set up an appointment, and then get sent to the appropriate experts for further evaluation? Going "100%" there is picking up a fucking phone instead of letting your health be fucked for 3 years.

ahaha that is the LAMEST excuse on Getbig for a long time ;D (and don't say "I need to research my options first and find the best experts" blablabla)

Man up you fucking doofus
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
? I have gotten me ass kicked a few times yes lol. Nothing wrong with that.
But I KNOW I have the potential to become very good. No one in the class well  beginners class stood a chance, not even the 200+ pounds was even close to get me on the ground.
Until I gassed.

But what the fuck im I supposed to do when I cant even run in a circle at the warmup.

You sound bitter and negative, friend. Isn't there some therapy or treatment that can get your knees back to good condition? If you truly want to be an MMA fighter, then you should try and find a way to fix your problem.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:40:52 PM
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:41:15 PM
You sound bitter and negative, friend. Isn't there some therapy or treatment that can get your knees back to good condition? If you truly want to be an MMA fighter, then you should try and find a way to fix your problem.


Often, what people truly wants = shown in their actions, not their words.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:43:19 PM
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:45:11 PM
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:45:34 PM
Yes, driver licence, training, did 6 "courses" or what you call it in school in 1.5 months.

I just have to decide to really do something. And thats Super hard for me and thats the BIG issue I have lol.

The thing is, if I dont go to the doctor gym is my only option is gym and then I can get how big I want to without giving a fuck about cardio..

Come on, "Drivers license"? "Training"? "6 courses in school (Debussey assumes that you = talking about the Swedish equivalent of the Norwegian "Videregående" (16-19 y.o.) in 1.5 months"?  These are not worthwhile pursuits qualified as "going 100% for" unless you have the life - aspirations of a panhandler  ;D  These are things you can do with one arm tied behind your back.

And if you can't decide to pick up the phone to go to a doctor with such a troubling issue, you need to man up. Your inability to make a decision could actually have long term implications for your health.

No offence you Swedish/part Norwegian bozo, but come on!

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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:47:13 PM
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:48:07 PM
and im doing it right now

WHY THE FUCK AM I UP SO LATE.
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Post by: Camel Jockey on December 29, 2008, 06:49:26 PM
When I got my driver's license I went to a driving school and bought a 5 lesson package and booked a road test with their shitty Toyota Corolla.  ::) After 3 weeks I went to the road test and passed.

Do they want Formula One qualifications in Sweden?
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:50:29 PM
When I got my driver's license I went to a driving school and bought a 5 lesson package and booked a road test with their shitty Toyota Corolla.  ::) After 3 weeks I went to the road test and passed.

Do they want Formula One qualifications in Sweden?

I didnt have any problem with the driving part I didnt even take any leasons, Just the writing part, because I cant remember SHIT.
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:52:00 PM
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Wake up call: Unless you are a flaming retard or have some hefty ADHD, ADD or dyslexia or something similar (something you do not appear to/have be at all), taking some school subjects = NOT a big deal. It seems to Debussey like you are using your "earlier history with school" as an excuse for avoiding something you probably fear you can not master deep within. Your way of thinking = very similar to what fat people say about their "issues with food" when you ask them about dieting. No offence, but it is weak and sickening.

You probably have a lot more potential than what you think you have.....
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:52:05 PM
alright, no more, its getting to personal and I hate making excuses.
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:55:19 PM
alright, no more, its getting to personal and I hate making excuses.


Well, if nobody in your family or social circle have told you this before, you need a fucking wake up call ::)
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:55:23 PM
and im getting fucking annoyed and angry for real.
I have to go and lay down. and SLEEP

im out.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:56:51 PM

Well, if nobody in your family or social circle have told you this before, you need a fucking wake up call ::)

I know I do.

Remember you dont know half of the shit thats happened in my life lets just leave it at that.
It's just the "icing at the cake"

But you are right and I know and I WILL so no excuses. :)
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 06:57:12 PM
and im getting fucking annoyed and angry for real.
I have to go and lay down. and SLEEP

im out.


Haha you should get fucking angry, because your inability to "pull the trigger" has probably created a ton of negative and unnecessary consequences for you in life. And you are getting angry and annoyed because you KNOW THAT THE CRITIQUE = TRUE.


 ::)
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Post by: Man of Steel on December 29, 2008, 06:57:25 PM
only a cage fighter can beat another cage fighter.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 06:58:33 PM

Haha you should get fucking angry, because your inability to "pull the trigger" has probably created a ton of negative and unnecessary consequences for you in life. And you are getting angry and annoyed because you KNOW THAT THE CRITIQUE = TRUE.


 ::)


ofcourse it has and ofcourse thats the truth. NEVER CLAIMED ANYTHING ELSE. :)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 07:01:07 PM
It's important that we get to the root of The Swede's anger.  Then the healing can begin.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 07:02:28 PM
I know I do.

Remember you dont know half of the shit thats happened in my life lets just leave it at that.
It's just the "icing at the cake"

But you are right and I know and I WILL so no escuses. :)

Whatever has happened to you in your = the past. It has probably shaped your identity and your beliefs which in turn causes the tendency to not be able to make a solid decision and stick with it. There is nothing out there in the real world that = causing your lack of motivation/inability to stick with something, so it = now all up to you.

In all seriousness, if the problem is really fucking with you and something you seem to not be able to "shake" on your own, go and see a psychologist, they can probably help you work through some of it. (hint: Ask for EMDR if you want to shake that tendency).

If you want to deal with it on your own, stop using it as an excuse. As it = standing today, the earlier shit is basically "winning over you" and fucking up your future. THat you = allowing that = pretty weak.

Hopefully, this post made you lose your temper you fucking moron. (and see that shrink).  :D
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 07:02:42 PM
It's important that we get to the root of The Swede's anger.  Then the healing can begin.

Getbig has helped me alot with my anger problems actually  ;D
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 07:11:02 PM
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Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 07:12:52 PM
We're here to help.

Debussey = reaching out.
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Post by: spinnis on December 29, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
good night and if I dont get my ass up when the alarm clock goes of, Im never visiting internet again.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 07:16:19 PM
Interesting. At least, there is really nothing that can get in your way (except some extraordinary circumstances) besides your own mental stuff.

Hopefully, you can get some people to help you out so you can get rid of some of your other "baggage". (At least you have some idea as to what = causing your problems).

If you don't, and if you wait 3 more years to pick up the fucking phone and make a 5 minute call to the doctor, Debussey will beat you up.  :D


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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 07:17:27 PM
We're here to help.

Debussey = reaching out.


Debussey = a nice guy.
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Post by: nicky.smth on December 29, 2008, 07:19:17 PM
getbig= help for those who can't afford professional help ;D
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Post by: The Master on December 29, 2008, 07:20:37 PM
Today, Debussey = DongDoctor.
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Post by: mass 04 on December 29, 2008, 07:26:00 PM
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Post by: Tapeworm on December 29, 2008, 07:29:18 PM

Debussey = a nice guy.

But in a sexy way.
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Post by: americanbulldog on December 29, 2008, 07:31:02 PM
Dude, are you fucked ?!?!? V.V is a fucking ex special forces team leader/instructor he is not a fucking MMA fighter, has no interest in MMA and does not compete, to be more literal he has no practical stand up, except strikes meant to subdue, kill or cut off your breathing and equilibrium. What the fuck are you talking about ?!!?!

Honestly, you have MMA's head so far up your ass it's not even funny, like I was trying to illustrate before, there is a difference between fighting for sport/points and fighting for survival to the death with multiple opponents.

Oh and ROFL at how you all suck Brock Lesnar's dick, the guy's been doing MMA for 2 years and in your eyes he could kill anyone in the world... LOL, next week he's going to better then Fedor just because he's Brock and he's big!!!  LOLOLOL



First off, I am not a Lesnar fan by any means.  But if you think that physical attributes has no bearing in ones ability to fight, you are clueless.  (I suspect you are).  And for the record, Fedor would TOOL Lesnar.

Secondly, stop jockriding on someone who really doesn't care whether you defend him or not.  I have attended a few Vladimir seminars, I will admit, and for a time, I was the flavor of the month JKDC guy.  I wanted to be just like Guro Inosanto and experience all that there was to offer.  I found out a couple of things, my time and money were limited, and when I'd go back into my kickboxing gym, or Relson's academy, I couldn't pull off anything I learned from the latest TRS posterboy.  What allows certain type of combat sports to be effective is that they practice in a "live" setting wherein both participants try equally as hard to defeat the other. 

Leaving a jab exposed so one can do a small joint manipulation doesn't occur in "real time."  And although if you gave Vladimar a Krinkov and a Makerov, he'd be a world beater, I AM POSITIVE he would admit to you that he wouldn't be able to beat the best Sambo, Judoka, BJJer, MT, boxer in a physical atlercation wherein both participants were fully aware that they were fighting.  Frank Cucci, a Pedro Sauer Black Belt in BJJ fought for a time in NHB (the real fight sport, little rules, no gloves, no time limits).  This guy was a TEN YEAR MEMBER of SEAL TEAM 6, the most highly decorated and accomplished operators in Seal Team.  And guess what?  He wasn't undefeated in NHB.  Imagine that? 

Here's a suggestion.  Go down to the nearest BJJ/Judo/kickboxing/muay thai gym, and ask to spar with some of the up and comers.  See if your stuff works.  One of two things will happen.  After you tap, get knocked down, knocked out, scream like a girl, you will come back, respectfully strap on a white belt, or don your gear and train like everyone else.  When you pound, mash, crush your partners in practice, the last thing you want to do when you leave the academy is fight.  You know what you are capable of, and don't want to spend the night in jail, or get sued.  I have "quit" training soooo many martial arts, I've lost count.  In the end, we can only do one of five things.  Kick, punch, clinch, grapple or fight with weapons.  Training will encompass those ranges of combat.  If training isn't done in an "alive" respect, you are wasting your money.

Well, I gotta go.  I need to show a bunch of 20 sumptins that someone who competes in the director category still has game.  I WILL TAP tonight, and I will tap others.  No room for egos at the academy.  That is all. 
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Post by: mass 04 on December 29, 2008, 07:36:31 PM
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Post by: SS on December 29, 2008, 07:39:09 PM
Fock!, ABD really knows his shit..........why isn't he a mod on the MMA board ???
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Post by: nicky.smth on December 30, 2008, 07:34:29 AM
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Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2008, 07:41:09 AM
haha what the hell happened to this thread? why is that moron "swede" melting down all over the place and editing his posts?  ;D
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Post by: spinnis on December 30, 2008, 07:42:19 AM
haha what the hell happened to this thread? why is that moron "swede" melting down all over the place and editing his posts?  ;D

melting aint the right word for it wheelchair man  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2008, 07:43:23 AM
melting aint the right word for it wheelchair man  ;D

so what happened?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 30, 2008, 07:45:55 AM
so what happened?

I didnt want to share what I wrote with everybody :)
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Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2008, 07:46:58 AM
I didnt want to share what I wrote with everybody :)

thats a meltdown right there
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Post by: spinnis on December 30, 2008, 07:49:34 AM
thats a meltdown right there

nope =)
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Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2008, 07:51:40 AM
nope =)

you dont think thats losing your cool? to go back and edit 100 posts and be upset and angry?

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Post by: spinnis on December 30, 2008, 08:09:53 AM
you dont think thats losing your cool? to go back and edit 100 posts and be upset and angry?



I wasnt upset, I just regretted what I shared with everyoen except debussyboo



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Post by: Fury on December 30, 2008, 08:17:41 AM
I wasnt upset, I just regretted what I shared with everyoen except debussyboo



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It's ok man. You're not the only retarded/autistic person on Getdumb.  :D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 08:18:22 AM
Lesnar trains with Greg Nelson, Erik Paulson who are better in Kali than David James, and is a better stand up fighters than Vladimar Vasilev.  Lesnar is a different animal.  Big, athletic, and skilled.  Very dangerous for anyone, in the cage or street.  

  Like I said before Shihan John Petrone has grappled with the Gracie's and has competed in Vale Tudo.  If you know the Gracie's so well ask them about VAJ and David James.  David James is one of the top 10 martial arts and self defense practioners in the world.  You'll NEVER hear anyone call him or his system bullshit.  He may not be a figher in the MMA sense but he's one #### I'd never want to meet in a dark alley.  Shihan Jonn Petrone will put his system up against anyone's and has.  Brock Lesnar would literally be killed by either James or Petrone before he could swing his arm.    
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Post by: spinnis on December 30, 2008, 08:19:45 AM
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Post by: Bluto on December 30, 2008, 08:32:03 AM
 Like I said before Shihan John Petrone has grappled with the Gracie's and has competed in Vale Tudo.  If you know the Gracie's so well ask them about VAJ and David James.  David James is one of the top 10 martial arts and self defense practioners in the world.  You'll NEVER hear anyone call him or his system bullshit.  He may not be a figher in the MMA sense but he's one #### I'd never want to meet in a dark alley.  Shihan Jonn Petrone will put his system up against anyone's and has.  Brock Lesnar would literally be killed by either James or Petrone before he could swing his arm.    

 ::)
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Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2008, 12:56:33 PM
 Like I said before Shihan John Petrone has grappled with the Gracie's and has competed in Vale Tudo.  If you know the Gracie's so well ask them about VAJ and David James.  David James is one of the top 10 martial arts and self defense practioners in the world.  You'll NEVER hear anyone call him or his system bullshit.  He may not be a figher in the MMA sense but he's one #### I'd never want to meet in a dark alley.  Shihan Jonn Petrone will put his system up against anyone's and has.  Brock Lesnar would literally be killed by either James or Petrone before he could swing his arm.    

OKAY?   ???

I actually had the pleasure of training with Professor V before his death.  I know about VAJ.  Most of the Jiujitsu was small joint manipulations that Professor V learned from Wally Jay, and I know that ain't going to work against a resisting opponent. 

To think that a non professional would beat a professional at ANYTHING , is ludicrous.  I threw for 6 touchdowns in my family flag football game.  I wonder if I'd be a better QB than Payton Manning (mispelled on purpose)?  The physicality in my family flag football game allows us to use techniques that are TOO DANGEROUS for the NFL, and we don't use any protective padding.  Surely I am in line for a 20 million dollar a year contract.  I also play pickup basketball here and there, surely with the physical nature of playground ball, I'd take Steve Nash in the post and dominate him....Repeat ad nauseum. 

I was a TMAer, Rorion, Royce, Relson visited our Wing Chun kwoon, took everyone down, submitted everyone using only light slaps before administering the finishing mata leao.  What if they tried to hit us like we tried?  None of them pulled "guard."  To add insult to what already is a beating, my coach did a group of seminars for a "Jack of all trades" TMA that is a STREET system, highly effective, to barbaric for the ring or cage.  We brought along one purple, three blues and two white belts.  The black belts in said system would not roll with my coach (2007 No Gi Mundial champ, and 2008 No Gi runner up), they wouldn't roll with the purple or blues.  Only with the two white belts.  Guess what, even allowing them to punch the nuts, and do all of their "deadly" techniques, all of them were knocked down, taken down, punched in the face (at which point they rolled over).  None of the brachial nerve "guntings" slowed down our white belts (we didn't tell them that they are semi pro kickboxers who train with us for their ground game).  They got beat on their feet, clinch and on the ground.  The Grandmastah later went on to tell his students in front of my coach, that if they ever got into a street fight with a BJJ player, they should tap, then when released, continue the fight in earnest.  My coach asked, what if they don't go for the sub and just pound you, and he kept on repeating that they will release the hold because they are used to doing it in practice.  And again my coach opined, what if they don't administer a sub, but instead just beat down your student.  Then he retorted, "sue em." 

BTW, I doubt David James would dojo storm Renzo's, Almeida's or Serra's for that matter.  And Brock, puhlease.... ::)

If you want better Kali, find a Pekiti Tirisa instructor or a Sayoc instructor.  In the PI, they train with real blades.  When one guy gets cut, training is over. 

I have had the good fortune to have trained with Ben Villorbio, Leo Gaje(actual combat experience, killed men using his kali), Chris Ricketts (his master, Tatang Illustrisimo has killed over 100 men, like Leo Gaje, fought in the liberation of the PI), Cacoy Canete, the late Punong Guro Edgar Sulite, Dan Inosanto, Richard Bustillo.  So I am not so impressed by some youtube videos.  I am sure you couldn't tell me the difference between and eight count or twelve count sumbrada.  I am sure you have no clue between the difference of pananjakman and panantukan.  So please spare me your lectures on how deadly GM David James is. 
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Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
OKAY?   ???

I actually had the pleasure of training with Professor V before his death.  I know about VAJ.  Most of the Jiujitsu was small joint manipulations that Professor V learned from Wally Jay, and I know that ain't going to work against a resisting opponent. 

To think that a non professional would beat a professional at ANYTHING , is ludicrous.  I threw for 6 touchdowns in my family flag football game.  I wonder if I'd be a better QB than Payton Manning (mispelled on purpose)?  The physicality in my family flag football game allows us to use techniques that are TOO DANGEROUS for the NFL, and we don't use any protective padding.  Surely I am in line for a 20 million dollar a year contract.  I also play pickup basketball here and there, surely with the physical nature of playground ball, I'd take Steve Nash in the post and dominate him....Repeat ad nauseum. 

I was a TMAer, Rorion, Royce, Relson visited our Wing Chun kwoon, took everyone down, submitted everyone using only light slaps before administering the finishing mata leao.  What if they tried to hit us like we tried?  None of them pulled "guard."  To add insult to what already is a beating, my coach did a group of seminars for a "Jack of all trades" TMA that is a STREET system, highly effective, to barbaric for the ring or cage.  We brought along one purple, three blues and two white belts.  The black belts in said system would not roll with my coach (2007 No Gi Mundial champ, and 2008 No Gi runner up), they wouldn't roll with the purple or blues.  Only with the two white belts.  Guess what, even allowing them to punch the nuts, and do all of their "deadly" techniques, all of them were knocked down, taken down, punched in the face (at which point they rolled over).  None of the brachial nerve "guntings" slowed down our white belts (we didn't tell them that they are semi pro kickboxers who train with us for their ground game).  They got beat on their feet, clinch and on the ground.  The Grandmastah later went on to tell his students in front of my coach, that if they ever got into a street fight with a BJJ player, they should tap, then when released, continue the fight in earnest.  My coach asked, what if they don't go for the sub and just pound you, and he kept on repeating that they will release the hold because they are used to doing it in practice.  And again my coach opined, what if they don't administer a sub, but instead just beat down your student.  Then he retorted, "sue em." 

BTW, I doubt David James would dojo storm Renzo's, Almeida's or Serra's for that matter.  And Brock, puhlease.... ::)

Dude Professor V is not David James.  Quit brining his ass up.  I agree about Professor V.  But those who can't teach.  David James is the one responsible for turning VAJ into the sensible, practical and very effective street self defense system it is today. 
Hahah I thought I remember you running your mouth in another thread.  I totally forgot you were a kung fu guy!  HAHAHAAHAHAH!  What a worthless fucking system for fighting or self defense for that matter.  I'd love for you to ask Phillip Redmond what he thinks of VAJ and David James.  Lke I said.....ask around.  Aks the Gracies about Shihan John Petrone.  That is if you are so well connected as you pretend to be. 
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Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:11:38 PM
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Or



Which is more realistic. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2008, 01:20:51 PM
Dude Professor V is not David James.  Quit brining his ass up.  I agree about Professor V.  But those who can't teach.  David James is the one responsible for turning VAJ into the sensible, practical and very effective street self defense system it is today. 
Hahah I thought I remember you running your mouth in another thread.  I totally forgot you were a kung fu guy!  HAHAHAAHAHAH!  What a worthless fucking system for fighting or self defense for that matter.  I'd love for you to ask Phillip Redmond what he thinks of VAJ and David James.  Lke I said.....ask around.  Aks the Gracies about Shihan John Petrone.  That is if you are so well connected as you pretend to be. 

Which Gracie are you referring to?  East coast Gracies is Renzo.  He is a part of Gracie Barra.  I am a part of Gracie Humaita.  You still haven't proven anything.  If Shihan James is SOOOOOO Deadly, wouldn't he want to earn a six figure payday?  Brock gets 250K a fight, and 3% of the PPV revenue.  Why not cash in on his "deadliness?"  Why didn't he answer the call when Art Davie was ASKING EVERYONE to participate in the original SEG UFC.  He could've created a cottage industry like BJJ has become.  Can you imagine how much revenue he could have created.  I'll let you ponder that rhetorical question, and btw, youtube vids against non resisting opponents won't impress anyone. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:30:35 PM
ANY OF THE GRACIES!  Relson, Renzo, Hoyce etc.  Ask ANY OF THEM.  They will tell you. 

John Petrone will put his system up against anyone's.  And he has.  Hence why he has the reputation of a "thug" in the martial arts community.  Moreover, VAJ is a self defense system.  Not a fighting system.  If you can't understand the difference then keep doing your little wing chun crap.  People would get maimed for life.  Also Johnn Petrone has fought in Vale Tudo and has grappled with a few of the Gracies and I believe Ken Shamrock.  VAJ is growing in popularity.  BJJ is bullshit.  It's a fad.  The Gracies are great business people half the time and full of shit half the time.  Put those two together and you can make millions in America just ask Barney Madoff.  David James is a very humble person.  It's like bodybuilding.......no one wants to see a natural bodybuilder.  Well no one is going to pay for an MMA fight that lasts a few seconds because some guy gets his eye gouged out or his knee broken.  They'd rather pay $100 a ticket to watch two people roll around on the ground thinking that will carry over into a self defense situation in real life.  Hell you could put up a well trained Boxer with a few months of striking, locks, grapple work and he'd be one hell of a contender against anyone.  Plus BJJ does not prepare you for opponents much bigger than you.  I don't  know how big you are but I doubt you'd be able to roll around with someone twice your size.  I'm 6'5 and weigh 250 lbs.  I've rolled around with my instructor who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ and is 6'2 270lbs.  He schooled me. 

But you'll probably come back with some lame example of Royce Gracie fighting a Dan Severan or other big guy.  BJJ is only effective with rules.  Take biting for example.  ANY of those fights with Royce Gracie would have ended with the opponent biting a fucking chunk out of his ankle, arm, head, leg, side whatever.  But you'll probably argue some bullshit philosophical martial arts dogma that real fighters don't bite.  LMAO!  Proving my point. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 30, 2008, 01:38:10 PM
ANY OF THE GRACIES!  Relson, Renzo, Hoyce etc.  Ask ANY OF THEM.  They will tell you. 

John Petrone will put his system up against anyone's.  And he has.  Hence why he has the reputation of a "thug" in the martial arts community.  Moreover, VAJ is a self defense system.  Not a fighting system.  If you can't understand the difference then keep doing your little wing chun crap.  People would get maimed for life.  Also Johnn Petrone has fought in Vale Tudo and has grappled with a few of the Gracies and I believe Ken Shamrock.  VAJ is growing in popularity.  BJJ is bullshit.  It's a fad.  The Gracies are great business people half the time and full of shit half the time.  Put those two together and you can make millions in America just ask Barney Madoff.  David James is a very humble person.  It's like bodybuilding.......no one wants to see a natural bodybuilder.  Well no one is going to pay for an MMA fight that lasts a few seconds because some guy gets his eye gouged out or his knee broken.  They'd rather pay $100 a ticket to watch two people roll around on the ground thinking that will carry over into a self defense situation in real life.  Hell you could put up a well trained Boxer with a few months of striking, locks, grapple work and he'd be one hell of a contender against anyone.  Plus BJJ does not prepare you for opponents much bigger than you.  I don't  know how big you are but I doubt you'd be able to roll around with someone twice your size.  I'm 6'5 and weigh 250 lbs.  I've rolled around with my instructor who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ and is 6'2 270lbs.  He schooled me. 

But you'll probably come back with some lame example of Royce Gracie fighting a Dan Severan or other big guy.  BJJ is only effective with rules.  Take biting for example.  ANY of those fights with Royce Gracie would have ended with the opponent biting a fucking chunk out of his ankle, arm, head, leg, side whatever.  But you'll probably argue some bullshit philosophical martial arts dogma that real fighters don't bite.  LMAO!  Proving my point. 

aren't you the guy who claimed to beat up Lenny Mclean
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 30, 2008, 01:40:56 PM
e.  Plus BJJ does not prepare you for opponents much bigger than you.  I don't  know how big you are but I doubt you'd be able to roll around with someone twice your size.  I'm 6'5 and weigh 250 lbs.  I've rolled around with my instructor who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ and is 6'2 270lbs.  He schooled me. 

But you'll probably come back with some lame example of Royce Gracie fighting a Dan Severan or other big guy.  BJJ is only effective with rules.  Take biting for example.  ANY of those fights with Royce Gracie would have ended with the opponent biting a fucking chunk out of his ankle, arm, head, leg, side whatever.  But you'll probably argue some bullshit philosophical martial arts dogma that real fighters don't bite.  LMAO!  Proving my point. 

BJJ trains you to fight a bigger guy , Helio was 9 times out of 10 the smaller guy , Royce made a career out of fighting bigger guys , Rickson vs Zulu I mean the list goes on and on

I don't agree with you that BJJ was a fad , it was supposed to be the end all be all in that respect you could say it was but it certainly serves a purpose in being a complete fighter , they had a huge advantage in the beginning because no one knew the ground game but look what happened when people learned pure BJJ became obsolete as the end all be all fighting styles


Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2008, 01:44:40 PM
ANY OF THE GRACIES!  Relson, Renzo, Hoyce etc.  Ask ANY OF THEM.  They will tell you. 

John Petrone will put his system up against anyone's.  And he has.  Hence why he has the reputation of a "thug" in the martial arts community.  Moreover, VAJ is a self defense system.  Not a fighting system.  If you can't understand the difference then keep doing your little wing chun crap.  People would get maimed for life.  Also Johnn Petrone has fought in Vale Tudo and has grappled with a few of the Gracies and I believe Ken Shamrock.  VAJ is growing in popularity.  BJJ is bullshit.  It's a fad.  The Gracies are great business people half the time and full of shit half the time.  Put those two together and you can make millions in America just ask Barney Madoff.  David James is a very humble person.  It's like bodybuilding.......no one wants to see a natural bodybuilder.  Well no one is going to pay for an MMA fight that lasts a few seconds because some guy gets his eye gouged out or his knee broken.  They'd rather pay $100 a ticket to watch two people roll around on the ground thinking that will carry over into a self defense situation in real life.  Hell you could put up a well trained Boxer with a few months of striking, locks, grapple work and he'd be one hell of a contender against anyone.  Plus BJJ does not prepare you for opponents much bigger than you.  I don't  know how big you are but I doubt you'd be able to roll around with someone twice your size.  I'm 6'5 and weigh 250 lbs.  I've rolled around with my instructor who is a 7th degree black belt in BJJ and is 6'2 270lbs.  He schooled me. 

But you'll probably come back with some lame example of Royce Gracie fighting a Dan Severan or other big guy.  BJJ is only effective with rules.  Take biting for example.  ANY of those fights with Royce Gracie would have ended with the opponent biting a fucking chunk out of his ankle, arm, head, leg, side whatever.  But you'll probably argue some bullshit philosophical martial arts dogma that real fighters don't bite.  LMAO!  Proving my point. 

Who's Hoyce?  Hate to break the news to you, champ.  BJJ got popular in Brazil under "Vale Tudo" rules (you used it first).  That means no rules.  Biting, head butts, groin shots, the works.  Relson was family champion in Brazil and took on all comers.  The reason Gracie Jiu-jitsu got so popular is because Carlos and Relio went to all comers (dojo storm to you) and challenged them to a no rules fight.  Guess who won.  When Rorion got to the US, he did the same thing. This became the basis for the UFC.  It was on the old Gracies in Action VHS tapes.  You refer to biting, try it once in a while.  When someone has the hooks in, and is punching you in the back of your head the last thing you are worried about is bitinig someone.  When someone punches you in the face from the mount, when do you plan on biting?  Obviously you don't train, so I will shut my mouth from here on out and let you espouse your opinion without a repartee.

Got rolled up by a visiting JJM blackbelt and tapped three times in five minutes.  I outweigh him by 75 lbs, didn't matter.  Technique, leverage, position coupled with some athleticism allows BJJ to work.  Obvious, you don't train. 

Six months of sprawl training and the boxer is good to go?  Again, obvious you don't train.  One piece of advice, empty your cup of tea, go to a BJJ school that is heavy on self defense, strap on a white belt and train.  You will find a lot of answers to your questions.  Until you've drank someone else tea, how can you speak from a position of authority.  I have been training for most of my life, but like I said earlier, work, wife, kids, prevent me from being a professional martial artist.  So I have to choose one or two.  BJJ/sub grappling coupled with kickboxing and once or twice a month of fun at the IDPA shoots is all I can do.  You obviously can maintain your herculean 6'5 250 lb physique and be the badass of getbig.  Good luck.   ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 30, 2008, 01:46:28 PM
Some good reading in this thread.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:46:58 PM
BJJ trains you to fight a bigger guy , Helio was 9 times out of 10 the smaller guy , Royce made a career out of fighting bigger guys , Rickson vs Zulu I mean the list goes on and on

I don't agree with you that BJJ was a fad , it was supposed to be the end all be all in that respect you could say it was but it certainly serves a purpose in being a complete fighter , they had a huge advantage in the beginning because no one knew the ground game but look what happened when people learned pure BJJ became obsolete as the end all be all fighting styles




It trains you to fight a bigger guy with rules or with the understanding that the other person is not going to bite the shit out of you or gouge your eye out.  Let me put it to you this way.  I'd let ANY BJJ fighter get me in a lock or whatever of his choice.  I'll put my teeth on his ankle, arm, whatever,  There wil be a guy standing with a timer.  As soon as he hits start I'll bite whatever the hell I have ahold of in my mouth and he can try to break my arm, leg neck or whatever.  I guarantee you that no man is going to hold onto a lock or a choke when I've got a two inch chunk of bone deep flesh I just ripped out of his leg.  Look at the reaction of Evander Holyfield when Tyson bit his ear.  AND IT WAS JUST HIS EAR!  A piece of cartilage!  THAT"S MY POINT ABOUT BJJ!  If I jam my fucking thumb or ram my finger through his eye ball while he's got me wrapped up in some stupid lock GAME OVER!  That's the difference between fighting someone who wants to kill you vs. someone who wants to grapple with you.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:49:15 PM
Who's Hoyce?  Hate to break the news to you, champ.  BJJ got popular in Brazil under "Vale Tudo" rules (you used it first).  That means no rules.  Biting, head butts, groin shots, the works.  Relson was family champion in Brazil and took on all comers.  The reason Gracie Jiu-jitsu got so popular is because Carlos and Relio went to all comers (dojo storm to you) and challenged them to a no rules fight.  Guess who won.  When Rorion got to the US, he did the same thing. This became the basis for the UFC.  It was on the old Gracies in Action VHS tapes.  You refer to biting, try it once in a while.  When someone has the hooks in, and is punching you in the back of your head the last thing you are worried about is bitinig someone.  When someone punches you in the face from the mount, when do you plan on biting?  Obviously you don't train, so I will shut my mouth from here on out and let you espouse your opinion without a repartee.

Got rolled up by a visiting JJM blackbelt and tapped three times in five minutes.  I outweigh him by 75 lbs, didn't matter.  Technique, leverage, position coupled with some athleticism allows BJJ to work.  Obvious, you don't train. 

Six months of sprawl training and the boxer is good to go?  Again, obvious you don't train.  One piece of advice, empty your cup of tea, go to a BJJ school that is heavy on self defense, strap on a white belt and train.  You will find a lot of answers to your questions.  Until you've drank someone else tea, how can you speak from a position of authority.  I have been training for most of my life, but like I said earlier, work, wife, kids, prevent me from being a professional martial artist.  So I have to choose one or two.  BJJ/sub grappling coupled with kickboxing and once or twice a month of fun at the IDPA shoots is all I can do.  You obviously can maintain your herculean 6'5 250 lb physique and be the badass of getbig.  Good luck.   ;D

Royce, Hoyce you know who the fuck I mean.  tapped three times in 5 minutes?  LOL I could bite through two inches of flesh in under 10 seconds.  You should try that sometime a BJJ guy "wraps" you up.  Vale Tudo was never really no holds barred.  People would die and be maimed for life moron. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
It trains you to fight a bigger guy with rules or with the understanding that the other person is not going to bite the shit out of you or gouge your eye out.  Let me put it to you this way.  I'd let ANY BJJ fighter get me in a lock or whatever of his choice.  I'll put my teeth on his ankle, arm, whatever,  There wil be a guy standing with a timer.  As soon as he hits start I'll bite whatever the hell I have ahold of in my mouth and he can try to break my arm, leg neck or whatever.  I guarantee you that no man is going to hold onto a lock or a choke when I've got a two inch chunk of bone deep flesh I just ripped out of his leg.  Look at the reaction of Evander Holyfield when Tyson bit his ear.  AND IT WAS JUST HIS EAR!  A piece of cartilage!  THAT"S MY POINT ABOUT BJJ!  If I jam my fucking thumb or ram my finger through his eye ball while he's got me wrapped up in some stupid lock GAME OVER!  That's the difference between fighting someone who wants to kill you vs. someone who wants to grapple with you.

Tell you what.  If you let me get the hooks on you, slap on a mata leao, I will allow you to try and bite me, poke my eyes.  We film it for youtube, and put it on GB for all posterity.  I plan on competing in the Pan Ams in Cali, so you meet me half way.  BTW, I am 41, 6'0, 200lbs.  I will be down to 185 with gi by the Pan Ams.  
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 01:52:25 PM
Tell you what.  If you let me get the hooks on you, slap on a mata leao, I will allow you to try and bite me, poke my eyes.  We film it for youtube, and put it on GB for all posterity.  I plan on competing in the Pan Ams in Cali, so you meet me half way.  BTW, I am 41, 6'0, 200lbs.  I will be down to 185 with gi by the Pan Ams.  

 ::)  You missed my entire point.  Mata leao! LMAO! 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: americanbulldog on December 30, 2008, 01:53:48 PM
::)  You missed my entire point.  Mata leao! LMAO! 

I thought so.  I am offically done...
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 30, 2008, 01:56:35 PM
It trains you to fight a bigger guy with rules or with the understanding that the other person is not going to bite the shit out of you or gouge your eye out.  Let me put it to you this way.  I'd let ANY BJJ fighter get me in a lock or whatever of his choice.  I'll put my teeth on his ankle, arm, whatever,  There wil be a guy standing with a timer.  As soon as he hits start I'll bite whatever the hell I have ahold of in my mouth and he can try to break my arm, leg neck or whatever.  I guarantee you that no man is going to hold onto a lock or a choke when I've got a two inch chunk of bone deep flesh I just ripped out of his leg.  Look at the reaction of Evander Holyfield when Tyson bit his ear.  AND IT WAS JUST HIS EAR!  A piece of cartilage!  THAT"S MY POINT ABOUT BJJ!  If I jam my fucking thumb or ram my finger through his eye ball while he's got me wrapped up in some stupid lock GAME OVER!  That's the difference between fighting someone who wants to kill you vs. someone who wants to grapple with you.

You wouldn't be able to bite if you were in an armbar  , I get your point about the eye gouge that would be very effective biting less so
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: OmegaRedEffMaster on December 30, 2008, 02:38:14 PM
It trains you to fight a bigger guy with rules or with the understanding that the other person is not going to bite the shit out of you or gouge your eye out.  Let me put it to you this way.  I'd let ANY BJJ fighter get me in a lock or whatever of his choice.  I'll put my teeth on his ankle, arm, whatever,  There wil be a guy standing with a timer.  As soon as he hits start I'll bite whatever the hell I have ahold of in my mouth and he can try to break my arm, leg neck or whatever.  I guarantee you that no man is going to hold onto a lock or a choke when I've got a two inch chunk of bone deep flesh I just ripped out of his leg.  Look at the reaction of Evander Holyfield when Tyson bit his ear.  AND IT WAS JUST HIS EAR!  A piece of cartilage!  THAT"S MY POINT ABOUT BJJ!  If I jam my fucking thumb or ram my finger through his eye ball while he's got me wrapped up in some stupid lock GAME OVER!  That's the difference between fighting someone who wants to kill you vs. someone who wants to grapple with you.



so youre a blackbelt for biting???
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 04:28:58 PM


so youre a blackbelt for biting???

Funny.   ::)  My point is biting is a very effective means of survival when someone is attacking you, i.e. wanting to kill you.  It's even more affective against some BJJ guy who wants to roll around on the ground with you.  I mean just look at wrestling.  BJJ is no different.  Your mouth comes into contact with all types of potential areas for biting.  Stomach, nipples, ears, face, groin, calves, ankles etc.  Trust me if you've ever fucking been bitten you know what I'm talking about.  If Tyson can manage to bite an opponent's ear in a boxing match just think about biting someone who tries to get you in the mount, guard, clinch! 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 30, 2008, 04:52:26 PM
I thought so.  I am offically done...

Honestly dude, you're such a whiny bitch... get your head of the clouds about jiu jitsu (read: NO ONE GIVES A FUCK about two fags wrestling on the ground trying to secure an ankle lock)  stop acting like you're so fucking high and mighty cause really no one cares, mr "I've been doing jiu jitsu for 30 years and have rolled with relson, royce, helio, rickson, rorion, renzo, rodrigo and every known MMA fighter in existence.  I'm sure you're just the 'illest' badass in real life,  what were your stats again? 180lbs. @ 6"2 ?? 

And as per your last post, I never said muscle and size didn't make a difference in fighting, as long as both are trained fighters, but an untrained 300lb. bodybuilder will get destroyed by a 170lb trained fighter.

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: QuakerOats on December 30, 2008, 04:54:42 PM
lots of badasses in this thread. ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 30, 2008, 04:57:45 PM


And as per your last post, I never said muscle and size didn't make a difference in fighting, as long as both are trained fighters, but an untrained 300lb. bodybuilder will get destroyed by a 170lb trained fighter.



No he wouldn't the big guy would man handle the smaller one until he gassed in about 2 minutes and then he'd get picked apart
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: Captain Equipoise on December 30, 2008, 05:02:26 PM
No he wouldn't the big guy would man handle the smaller one until he gassed in about 2 minutes and then he'd get picked apart

Not in the real worldy buddy :)

I've seen 140lb. JKD guys take out 6"4 280lb. guys I've bounced with ,  one of these little guys must've hit my big buddy about 8 times in one second,  fast as fuck. And if they know WHERE to hit, yuou're fucked.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 30, 2008, 05:03:59 PM
Not in the real worldy buddy :)

I've seen 140lb. JKD guys take out 6"4 280lb. guys I've bounced with ,  one of these little guys must've hit my big buddy about 8 times in one second,  fast as fuck. And if they know WHERE to hit, yuou're fucked.


You know what I agree with you I read it to fast !! an untrained bodybuilder would get demoralized
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: UGMT on December 30, 2008, 05:04:49 PM
Arguing with this Mcmannus guy is a waste of time. He was polluting the MMA board with this van jitsu street biting nonsense. Maybe it's a great system, maybe not, I don't really care. I just hate these martial arts guys always arguing about what style is most "lethal" or "street effective". I said it in the last thread he was posting all this shit in; there are a million and one variables for what can happen on the "street", different things will always work better than others in different scenarios.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 30, 2008, 06:01:28 PM
Arguing with this Mcmannus guy is a waste of time. He was polluting the MMA board with this van jitsu street biting nonsense. Maybe it's a great system, maybe not, I don't really care. I just hate these martial arts guys always arguing about what style is most "lethal" or "street effective". I said it in the last thread he was posting all this shit in; there are a million and one variables for what can happen on the "street", different things will always work better than others in different scenarios.

Email John Petrone.  Here's his myspace page tough ass.  Why don't you ask him about VAJ, bouncing, fighting, self defense, grappling with Ken Shamrock and the Gracies.  He walks the walk. 

http://www.myspace.com/vajcsco
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Post by: The Showstoppa on December 30, 2008, 06:03:09 PM
I have a black belt in internet badassness.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: The Master on December 30, 2008, 06:04:06 PM
Not in the real worldy buddy :)

I've seen 140lb. JKD guys take out 6"4 280lb. guys I've bounced with ,  one of these little guys must've hit my big buddy about 8 times in one second,  fast as fuck. And if they know WHERE to hit, yuou're fucked.



That's one punch per 0,125 second. Pretty fast.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: James Phoenix on December 30, 2008, 08:49:41 PM
It trains you to fight a bigger guy with rules or with the understanding that the other person is not going to bite the shit out of you or gouge your eye out.  Let me put it to you this way.  I'd let ANY BJJ fighter get me in a lock or whatever of his choice.  I'll put my teeth on his ankle, arm, whatever,  There wil be a guy standing with a timer.  As soon as he hits start I'll bite whatever the hell I have ahold of in my mouth and he can try to break my arm, leg neck or whatever.  I guarantee you that no man is going to hold onto a lock or a choke when I've got a two inch chunk of bone deep flesh I just ripped out of his leg.  Look at the reaction of Evander Holyfield when Tyson bit his ear.  AND IT WAS JUST HIS EAR!  A piece of cartilage!  THAT"S MY POINT ABOUT BJJ!  If I jam my fucking thumb or ram my finger through his eye ball while he's got me wrapped up in some stupid lock GAME OVER!  That's the difference between fighting someone who wants to kill you vs. someone who wants to grapple with you.

I agree 100%.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 30, 2008, 08:52:16 PM
Email John Petrone.  Here's his myspace page tough ass.  Why don't you ask him about VAJ, bouncing, fighting, self defense, grappling with Ken Shamrock and the Gracies.  He walks the walk. 

http://www.myspace.com/vajcsco

is he bullet proof?
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 12:20:18 AM
is he bullet proof?

No but he did knock out Dorian Yates in an NYC club he bounced at.  LMAO!  :o
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 31, 2008, 01:46:29 AM
No but he did knock out Dorian Yates in an NYC club he bounced at.  LMAO!  :o

have you ever been in a fight

or do you train at home watching you tube videos

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 02:17:29 AM
have you ever been in a fight

or do you train at home watching you tube videos



LOL I was kidding numbnutz.  And no I have not been in a fight in several years.  But I was jumped by 5 guys a year ago.  Needless to say two of them went home with a broken jaw and nose.  Not too many guys will fuck with someone 6'5 250lbs with 35 inch thighs!  ;D
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: gracie bjj on December 31, 2008, 03:25:48 AM
fighting in the street just gets you

A.prison time
B.court costs
C.possible injuries or even murdered

ill pass on those options,only fight if you have no choice and you have to defend yourself.try to avoid it if possible,be the bigger man and walk away.most guys who start fights are insecure losers with no life
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SquatAss on December 31, 2008, 03:36:47 AM
fighting in the street just gets you

A.prison time
B.court costs
C.possible injuries or even murdered

ill pass on those options,only fight if you have no choice and you have to defend yourself.try to avoid it if possible,be the bigger man and walk away.most guys who start fights are insecure losers with no life

And if that doesn't work just bite his penis, it's the VAJ way.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: spinnis on December 31, 2008, 05:16:51 AM
aren't you the guy who claimed to beat up Lenny Mclean

I seriously fucking hope not haha
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: bigmc on December 31, 2008, 05:37:57 AM
LOL I was kidding numbnutz.  And no I have not been in a fight in several years.  But I was jumped by 5 guys a year ago.  Needless to say two of them went home with a broken jaw and nose.  Not too many guys will fuck with someone 6'5 250lbs with 35 inch thighs!  ;D

where are your pics
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 02:27:20 PM
Don't worry.  I have too many enemies out there to be posting my pics.  I'm every bit the bad ass you think I am though! 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 31, 2008, 02:31:41 PM
Don't worry.  I have too many enemies out there to be posting my pics.  I'm every bit the bad ass you think I am though! 
oh brother ::)
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 31, 2008, 02:34:11 PM
No but he did knock out Dorian Yates in an NYC club he bounced at.  LMAO!  :o

Says you , first time you're sharing this gem too how ironic  ::)

I'm glad you admit he's not bullet proof  ;)

Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 31, 2008, 02:35:18 PM
LOL I was kidding numbnutz.  And no I have not been in a fight in several years.  But I was jumped by 5 guys a year ago.  Needless to say two of them went home with a broken jaw and nose.  Not too many guys will fuck with someone 6'5 250lbs with 35 inch thighs!  ;D

How do you know their nose and jaws were broken ? did you see the x-rays? of did you hear the breaks lmao
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 02:43:16 PM
How do you know their nose and jaws were broken ? did you see the x-rays? of did you hear the breaks lmao

One guy was picking bone up off the street the other's jaw was dangling in the air.  I'd pretty much say they were broken.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 31, 2008, 02:47:07 PM
One guy was picking bone up off the street the other's jaw was dangling in the air.  I'd pretty much say they were broken.

yeah I seen that movie
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: _bruce_ on December 31, 2008, 02:52:24 PM
A good brawler def. has chance.
Standard drunks... no.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: SS on December 31, 2008, 03:14:22 PM
One guy was picking bone up off the street the other's jaw was dangling in the air.  I'd pretty much say they were broken.
Would you be willing to thrown hands with bad ass?


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Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: technokc on December 31, 2008, 03:31:26 PM
I definetly think a regular guy could win in a street fight, he'd be more apt to look for weapons and improvise, whereas the mma guy would automatically go to his training.

Doesnt really matter if you got a guy in a choke hold if you get stabbed in the eye by a screw driver.

I can't say where I work, but I work around alot of mma guys and boxers, and sure in their given enviroment they can kick ass, but put them in a room with tables, chairs, bottles, etc. and the playing field is a lot closer to even.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 03:37:58 PM
I definetly think a regular guy could win in a street fight, he'd be more apt to look for weapons and improvise, whereas the mma guy would automatically go to his training.

Doesnt really matter if you got a guy in a choke hold if you get stabbed in the eye by a screw driver.

I can't say where I work, but I work around alot of mma guys and boxers, and sure in their given enviroment they can kick ass, but put them in a room with tables, chairs, bottles, etc. and the playing field is a lot closer to even.

Moreover, I'd put my money on a good boxer than a good MMA guy in a street fight as well.  Boxing is still one of the best things to know if you are in a fight. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: technokc on December 31, 2008, 03:41:22 PM
Moreover, I'd put my money on a good boxer than a good MMA guy in a street fight as well.  Boxing is still one of the best things to know if you are in a fight. 

Yep, I work with one of the top young pro's in the boxing circuit right now, and I would bet alot of money on him against most mma guys in a street fight.

On a side note I can't wait until I quite my job so I can tell you guys where I work, I bet most people would get a kick out of it.
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on December 31, 2008, 03:43:15 PM
Yep, I work with one of the top young pro's in the boxing circuit right now, and I would bet alot of money on him against most mma guys in a street fight.

On a side note I can't wait until I quite my job so I can tell you guys where I work, I bet most people would get a kick out of it.

Copy Cabana?  LOL. 
Title: Re: do you think a normal guy could beat an mma fighter in a street fight
Post by: James Phoenix on December 31, 2008, 04:51:53 PM
The point was made that someone could defend against a grapple with bites.

This is true; however, a grappler might also use his ground skills to put himself in a position to do the same.

A half-nelson followed up with a bite to the throat would be a very bad thing.

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