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Title: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 12:43:29 PM
I feel this way it's the best ways to get steroid-like results
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 10, 2013, 12:57:06 PM
Lost, it is totally reversed.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: jodsy on December 10, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
dumbbells are better for both
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 01:03:47 PM
I like doing barbells most of the time with half=reps, not taking the bar all the way up. I use dumbells once in a while for a change. My chest is the worst bodypart.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: AlphaMaleDawg on December 10, 2013, 01:04:44 PM
I'm kind the same way, but I do whatever I feel like doing. I switch every week usually.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:05:03 PM
I like doing barbells most of the time with half=reps, not taking the bar all the way up. I use dumbells once in a while for a change. My chest is the worst bodypart.
RC only used dumbbells and his chest was spectacular
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: dj181 on December 10, 2013, 01:06:33 PM
what about hammer machines ???
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Wez on December 10, 2013, 01:06:52 PM
Stimulation is stimulation....barbell, DB, machine...they all work.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 01:08:41 PM
RC only used dumbbells and his chest was spectacular
RC no barbell chest presses. Now that is hard to believe bro,  why do you say so?
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 10, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
what about hammer machines ???
They are ok in emergencies.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:12:37 PM
RC no barbell chest presses. Now that is hard to believe bro,  why do you say so?
well he did some but he sucked at them


a few shitty power reps with 5 plates


vs


12 smooth as butter reps with 200lbs dumbels
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: The True Adonis on December 10, 2013, 01:14:15 PM
People usually say this because they are embarrassed about how much others will perceive their bench to be.  Usually, in this case, weak and inadequate to the observers expectations.  So, the only way to cover this completely up is to proclaim to anyone who asks, "No bro, its only dumbbells for Chest for me. I prefer it because it works better".  This way they can avoid underperforming to others expectations.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:17:01 PM
People usually say this because they are embarrassed about how much others will perceive their bench to be.  Usually, in this case, weak and inadequate to the observers expectations.  So, the only way to cover this completely up is to proclaim to anyone who asks, "No bro, its only dumbbells for Chest for me. I prefer it because it works better".  This way they can avoid underperforming to others expectations.
::)


a truly huge bber doesnt get involved in number bragging


he just hits a front lat spread and ripples the striations in his pecs
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: The True Adonis on December 10, 2013, 01:18:22 PM
::)


a truly huge bber doesnt get involved in number bragging


he just hits a front lat spread and ripples the striations in his pecs
You are insecure about how others perceive your strength, your muscle size and the actual numbers you put up in the gym.  You have admitted all of this.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: macos on December 10, 2013, 01:18:29 PM
Arnie had a great chest with bbels
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: CalvinH on December 10, 2013, 01:19:33 PM
what about hammer machines ???


Hi Groink!
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:20:35 PM
You are insecure about how others perceive your strength, your muscle size and the actual numbers you put up in the gym.  You have admitted all of this.
i  only care about appearance


strength is useful for unskilled laborers


Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: The True Adonis on December 10, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
i  only care about appearance


strength is useful for unskilled laborers



Research your post history.  It says otherwise.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Rascal full on December 10, 2013, 01:21:48 PM
I think both are important. Concentrating on barbells only is a mistake because your stronger side will assume a lot of the work. Dumbells allow you to independantly work both pecs to complete failure. I will sometimes rep out on my left arm before my right because it is not as strong. Variation seems to work so dumbells, barbells, flat, incline, decline all work great.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 10, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
Research your post history.  It says otherwise.
i dont give a damn

and you can eat glass


chump
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: thebrink on December 10, 2013, 01:43:12 PM
i'm guessing you have long arms halo so you're on the right track
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Mawse on December 10, 2013, 07:13:51 PM
I haven't benched with a barbell in months, all I do is one arm dumbbell floor presses. It prevents that last dangerous 2 inches of ROM that does fuck-all for the chest but grinds down the shoulder joint. Also I don't want to retear my pec muscle ever again

4-5 sets of 8-15 reps then a bunch of pumpy stuff with cables.

If I do 45 degree DB inclines I go light and squeeze them up, going over 100lbs on that lift almost always aggravates my shoulder.

disclaimer, my chest sucks and always has no matter what lifts or reps schemes I do.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: MichaelScottDM on December 10, 2013, 07:18:51 PM
I never use barbells for chest. This is due to shoulder injuries over the years, as well as trying my best to keep them as healthy as possible. Have never been incredibly strong at dumbbell inclines, nor have I ever tried to push it. I like to do them as slow and controlled as possible. I can definitely tell that there is a strong difference between contractions when going slow vs fast on this movement.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: POB on December 10, 2013, 08:40:56 PM
I like doing barbells most of the time with half=reps, not taking the bar all the way up. I use dumbells once in a while for a change. My chest is the worst bodypart.

I hope you're trolling :D
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: dj181 on December 11, 2013, 12:22:08 PM

Hi Groink!

15 said that the hammer incline is one of the best chest movements in existence
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Wolfox on December 12, 2013, 04:44:46 AM
15 said that the hammer incline is one of the best chest movements in existence

dunno about that but I will say I really feel the pecs contracting on the incline hammer. I use dumbells for flat then hammer for incline...easiest in the shoulders.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: wild willie on December 12, 2013, 09:18:09 AM
15 said that the hammer incline is one of the best chest movements in existence
x2......I agree wholeheartedly!
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Dago_Joe on December 12, 2013, 10:33:45 AM
well he did some but he sucked at them


a few shitty power reps with 5 plates


vs


12 smooth as butter reps with 200lbs dumbels

Yes but Ronald has a superior weapon to rely on to make him huge, that you and I do not:  NEGRO GENES.
Seriously, look at pics of Flex Wheeler, Ronald, Levrone, Shawn Ray, etc.  The negro genes tend to create that look we all strive for but few achieve. 
Dumbells do work better imo.  I just feel the weight better and am not locked into one motion.  that is how i nearly tore my rotator cuff on a stupid fucking smith machine.  fuck those things!
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: anabolichalo on December 12, 2013, 03:33:17 PM
Yes but Ronald has a superior weapon to rely on to make him huge, that you and I do not:  NEGRO GENES.
Seriously, look at pics of Flex Wheeler, Ronald, Levrone, Shawn Ray, etc.  The negro genes tend to create that look we all strive for but few achieve. 
Dumbells do work better imo.  I just feel the weight better and am not locked into one motion.  that is how i nearly tore my rotator cuff on a stupid fucking smith machine.  fuck those things!
sure negro is superior for bb


but i can live with dennis wolf jason cutler physic
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: trapz101 on December 13, 2013, 12:41:05 AM
dunno about that but I will say I really feel the pecs contracting on the incline hammer. I use dumbells for flat then hammer for incline...easiest in the shoulders.

try decline hammer when you're chest already pumped,the contraction is insane
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Mawse on December 13, 2013, 12:16:34 PM
try decline hammer when you're chest already pumped,the contraction is insane

Agree with this, even though those machines aren't healthy for the shoulders.

doing them with a couple of plates a side and 'flexing' up the weight by squeezing your chest when it's fatigued gives an insane pump.

I stop a few inches off the bottom because the groove on those machines seems to be designed specifically to tear your RC's and separate your shoulder - the elbows go back and up and the shoulders internally rotate in the last few inches. I guess they figure 99% of users will bounce through that last range of motion so it wont be as bad?
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 13, 2013, 12:28:23 PM
I got go with Don Kernodle on this.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: macos on December 21, 2013, 08:23:49 PM
I haven't benched with a barbell in months, all I do is one arm dumbbell floor presses. It prevents that last dangerous 2 inches of ROM that does fuck-all for the chest but grinds down the shoulder joint. Also I don't want to retear my pec muscle ever again

4-5 sets of 8-15 reps then a bunch of pumpy stuff with cables.

If I do 45 degree DB inclines I go light and squeeze them up, going over 100lbs on that lift almost always aggravates my shoulder.

disclaimer, my chest sucks and always has no matter what lifts or reps schemes I do.

Have you tried mgf in the pecs bro?
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2013, 12:45:45 AM
Dumbbells are great for chest and Back too. you have more freedom with Bells and can rotate your Hands to suit yourself. When i had a small shoulder Problem i liked incline DB press rotating my Hands and i had no pain.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Kurt on December 31, 2013, 04:05:53 AM
I prefer using dumbells for all chest pressing movements. It simply feels like I am isolating the chest better. I also alternate between palms forward, and (mostly) palms facing each other. This cuts down on shoulder strain.
Stimulation, not annihilation is my stolen motto.   
It's probably a good thing I prefer using dumbells, as I train alone.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2013, 04:13:54 AM
I prefer using dumbells for all chest pressing movements. It simply feels like I am isolating the chest better. I also alternate between palms forward, and (mostly) palms facing each other. This cuts down on shoulder strain.
Stimulation, not annihilation is my stolen motto.   
It's probably a good thing I prefer using dumbells, as I train alone.
yes if you Train alone at least you can drop them out to the sides. Infact i remember doing full Body workouts just with a set of bells, a home made bench and extra plates to load a decent weight on Dumbbell squats and such. you can hit it all with Bells. sure you canīt load them like a barbell but the exercise variations are endless. David Gentle did some great articles and has a web site. I saw an article from him in the early 90īs which was great.
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2013, 04:16:56 AM
posted it before but some great old School stuff in here....
http://www.davidgentle.com/articles/weights/dumbbells.htm
Title: Re: i prefer dumbels for flat bench and barbells for incline press - speak on this
Post by: Kurt on December 31, 2013, 04:23:36 PM
posted it before but some great old School stuff in here....
http://www.davidgentle.com/articles/weights/dumbbells.htm

Good stuff.... Thanks for the link.