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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng)
If Carville says it, it has credibility in the domestic political arena.
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Princeton and Harvard educated.
Has argued cases before the Supreme Court.
Hispanic.
Going to have the plantation masters on the left shitting their pants.
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He doesn't give the fake smile. He's not begging to please. His cheeks don't have that perpetual tight smile as he pleads with everyone in the room for their support.
Even if I disagree with a politician, I respect them when they have that "I dont give a shit what you think, here are my positions"...
Anytime Cruz speaks, he makes his point and gives the audience that deadpan look. Appears genuine and direct.
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The Democrats are already starting with their version of the whole Birther thing with Cruz. Friggin' groan.
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The Democrats are already starting with their version of the whole Birther thing with Cruz. Friggin' groan.
??? What is the issue? I think Obama's birth cert is a VERY big issue, and I think it's undermined him in a big way. What is the Cruz issue?
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He doesn't give the fake smile. He's not begging to please. His cheeks don't have that perpetual tight smile as he pleads with everyone in the room for their support.
Lol, my mind went straight to Mitt Romney with that description.
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Hell yes destroyer of tiny tit liberal minds!!!!
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He doesn't give the fake smile. He's not begging to please. His cheeks don't have that perpetual tight smile as he pleads with everyone in the room for their support.
Even if I disagree with a politician, I respect them when they have that "I dont give a shit what you think, here are my positions"...
Anytime Cruz speaks, he makes his point and gives the audience that deadpan look. Appears genuine and direct.
and all the reasons you listed above are the reasons he can't win
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Lol, my mind went straight to Mitt Romney with that description.
LOL... Remember how his face looked like it actually ached from that fake grin? People don't trust that.
and all the reasons you listed above are the reasons he can't win
Look at some of the most respected leaders - the ones with "gravitas" - think of Mandela, Jeb, Hilary, Reagan, Cheney - They didn't put on a fake smile. They had too much confidence to do that. (Even if you hate some of them, you had to admit, they didn't use the fake smile).
In 2016, imagine Jeb and Rubio in a debate. Rubio either looked flustered, or fake smile. Jeb has that same "I got this, everyone chill out" look to him. Cruz has that too.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng)
If Carville says it, it has credibility in the domestic political arena.
Interesting take. I still want to hear more from him, but if Carville is afraid of him there must be some substance there. :)
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Interesting take. I still want to hear more from him, but if Carville is afraid of him there must be some substance there. :)
This. I'm not familiar enough with him, but if Dems hate him...he's probably a good guy.
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This. I'm not familiar enough with him, but if Dems hate him...he's probably a good guy.
Isn't Careville a Dem?
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I guess none of you bothered to check his bio to realise he was born in Calgary LOL
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Isn't Careville a Dem?
He is.
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I guess none of you bothered to check his bio to realise he was born in Calgary LOL
I mentioned it on another thread a few hours ago
born in Canada to a Cuban father and an American mother
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SRCOL2ng)
If Carville says it, it has credibility in the domestic political arena.
Carville said this too
Now I don’t agree with him. I think he’s out there
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SZCwG3GP
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I guess none of you bothered to check his bio to realise he was born in Calgary LOL
good catch...
seems though that it doesnt really matter
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/supporters-push-for-ted-cruz-for-president/
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More from Carville:
JAMES CARVILLE: I think he is the most talented and fearless Republican politician I’ve seen in the last 30 years. I further think that he’s going to run for president and he is going to create something. I’m not sitting here saying he’s going to win, and I think Senator DeMint is right. I’ve listened to excerpts of his speech in South Carolina. He touches every button, and this guy has no fear. He just keeps plowing ahead. And he is going to be something to watch.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/05/05/carville-ted-cruz-most-talented-and-fearless-republican-politician#ixzz2SZDgfmZZ
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good catch...
seems though that it doesnt really matter
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/supporters-push-for-ted-cruz-for-president/
Nope. Not at all. McCain was born in Panama.
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good catch...
seems though that it doesnt really matter
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/supporters-push-for-ted-cruz-for-president/
Wasn't Ted Cruz born in Canada and isn't his father Cuban and his mother Irish and Italian ?
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Bit of a grandstander. Hispanics won't buy what he's selling. No free phones from Cruz.
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his mother was US citizen born in the US
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Bit of a grandstander. Hispanics won't buy what he's selling. No free phones from Cruz.
No necessarily. George W. had a solid following with Hispanics getting 43% of their vote in 2004. I think he just appealed to them as a whole more than McCain or Romney. I believe Cruz can get close to that number on name alone and taking for granted he doesn't look too bad on immigration.
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No necessarily. George W. had a solid following with Hispanics getting 43% of their vote in 2004. I think he just appealed to them as a whole more than McCain or Romney. I believe Cruz can get close to that number on name alone and taking for granted he doesn't look too bad on immigration.
He also looks white enough not to scare off old white people. I want to see Cruz's birth certificate to make sure he wasn't born in Kenya.
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He also looks white enough not to scare off old white people. I want to see Cruz's birth certificate to make sure he wasn't born in Kenya.
I can assure you that is coming but from what I understand its a non factor, he can run for President without any of those type issues.
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Nope. Not at all. McCain was born in Panama.
Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm)
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from Wiki:
Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada[1], where his parents, Eleanor Darragh and Rafael Cruz, were working in the oil business.[9][10] His father was a Cuban immigrant to the United States during the Cuban Revolution.[11] His mother was born and reared in Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent.[10][12] Cruz's parents, who had both attended college in Texas, returned there when Ted was about four years old.[11]
His mom was born in the US, but doesn't say whether his dad was a citizen when Cruz was born.
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I'm looking forward to Alex Jones new film, The Cruz Deception.
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An American of hispanic heritage born in Canada - LOL!
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An American of hispanic heritage born in Canada - LOL!
I don't think Cubans typically refer to themselves as hispanic
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from Wiki:
Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada[1], where his parents, Eleanor Darragh and Rafael Cruz, were working in the oil business.[9][10] His father was a Cuban immigrant to the United States during the Cuban Revolution.[11] His mother was born and reared in Delaware, in a family of Irish and Italian descent.[10][12] Cruz's parents, who had both attended college in Texas, returned there when Ted was about four years old.[11]
His mom was born in the US, but doesn't say whether his dad was a citizen when Cruz was born.
This is the same issue some birthers raised about Obama (whether his father was an American citizen when Obama was born).
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Only native-born U.S. citizens (or those born abroad, but only to parents who were both citizens of the U.S.) may be president of the United States, though from time to time that requirement is called into question, most recently after Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, was elected governor of California, in 2003. The Constitution originally provided a small loophole to this provision: One needn't have been born in the United States but had to be a citizen at the time the Constitution was adopted. But, since that occurred in 1789, that ship has sailed.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm)
good catch...
seems though that it doesnt really matter
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/supporters-push-for-ted-cruz-for-president/
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This is the same issue some birthers raised about Obama (whether his father was an American citizen when Obama was born).
Obama was born in the US
Is Cruz trying to say he was born in the US?
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Good find. From the link:
1. Cruz’s eligibility
Cruz, like a couple of presidential candidates before him, faces a potential hurdle to running for president in that it’s not 100 percent clear that he’s a “natural-born citizen,” as the 14th Amendment requires presidents to be.
Cruz’s mother was a U.S. citizen when he was born, and current U.S. law extends citizenship to anyone born to a U.S. citizen, regardless of where the birth takes place. The question is whether citizenship is the same thing as being a “natural-born citizen.”
Legal scholars generally agree that Cruz meets that requirement, and Cruz’s office agrees. But it also remains somewhat untested in the courts.
While no president-elect has formally tested the “natural-born citizen” requirement, several have run for president with that question hanging over their candidacies.
Democrats in 1967 suggested that George Romney would not be eligible to serve as president, because he was born to U.S. citizens in Mexico. But a New York Law Journal piece at the time argued forcefully that he would be, and that seemed to put the issue to rest. (Romney’s primary campaign wound up imploding.)
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), the GOP’s nominee in 2008, was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. citizens. After he secured the party’s nomination, the Senate in 2008 passed a resolution stating that McCain was indeed a natural-born citizen.
In fact, this debate dates back to President Chester A. Arthur and the original so-called “birther” controversy. While Arthur is listed as being born in Vermont, some argued that he was born in Canada and thus ineligible to be president.
The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service has even weighed in on the issue, writing in November 2011 that people born to U.S. citizens in foreign countries “most likely” qualify as natural-born citizens.
“The weight of more recent federal cases, as well as the majority of scholarship on the subject, also indicates that the term ‘natural born citizen’ would most likely include, as well as native born citizens, those born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents, at least one of whom had previously resided in the United States, or those born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent who, prior to the birth, had met the requirements of federal law for physical presence in the country,” wrote Jack Maskell.
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LOL @ Republicans who don't have the balls to admit they're birthers when it comes to Obama.
"well, I think there's some interesting things, but I'm not so sure..." bwahahahhaaha wimps.
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So when it comes to Cruz the point is moot, but not with Obama ??? Where's 333 screaming birther on this guy?
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So when it comes to Cruz the point is moot, but not with Obama ??? Where's 333 screaming birther on this guy?
what point? cruz isnt denying anything is he?
he was born in canada to a natural born US citizen, the courts have never ruled on whether that makes someone eligible or not......
what point?
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what point? cruz isnt denying anything is he?
he was born in canada to a natural born US citizen, the courts have never ruled on whether that makes someone eligible or not......
what point?
well its interesting to note that you went into defensive mode without me addressing you personally. If you don't see my 'point' I don't know what to tell you.
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well its interesting to note that you went into defensive mode without me addressing you personally. If you don't see my 'point' I don't know what to tell you.
hahahah asking for clarification is defensive?
LMFAO that almost as good as pointing out hypocrisey is "reprehensible" hahahha
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Do you want to be spoonfed my point?
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Do you want to be spoonfed my point?
sure
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v
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I guess none of you bothered to check his bio to realise he was born in Calgary LOL
You're the first person to point this out ever!!!!!!
Someone get this guy a job one of the cable networks as he's discovered something no one else has yet!!!!!! ::)
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sure
why was Obama's birthplace an issue in the first place?
You're the first person to point this out ever!!!!!!
Someone get this guy a job one of the cable networks as he's discovered something no one else has yet!!!!!! ::)
See above, the assumption was that being born in the US was a requirement, faggot.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/why-republicans-love-ted-cruz-2013-5
;D
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Princeton and Harvard educated.
Has argued cases before the Supreme Court.
Hispanic.
Going to have the plantation masters on the left shitting their pants.
Santorum and Bachmann will challenge him.
flavor of the month club.
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Santorum and Bachmann will challenge him.
flavor of the month club.
seems our resident right wingers have forgotten how quickly they embraced every new nutbag that entered the race last year
Shit, at one time we had Bachman, Trump, Cain, Perry on top and I think even Santorum got to spend a few days there too
Cruz is hated by the Republican establishment so it's hard to believe he is going to be treated any better than Ron Paul
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seems our resident right wingers have forgotten how quickly they embraced every new nutbag that entered the race last year
Shit, at one time we had Bachman, Trump, Cain, Perry on top and I think even Santorum got to spend a few days there too
Cruz is hated by the Republican establishment so it's hard to believe he is going to be treated any better than Ron Paul
and you still embrace the current nutbag at 1600 Pa Ave who is a glorifed crackhead and communist expanding FBI wiretap powers.
FORWARD!!!!!
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seems our resident right wingers have forgotten how quickly they embraced every new nutbag that entered the race last year
Shit, at one time we had Bachman, Trump, Cain, Perry on top and I think even Santorum got to spend a few days there too
Cruz is hated by the Republican establishment so it's hard to believe he is going to be treated any better than Ron Paul
In your own words, feel free to explain how Cruz is a nutbag.
Keep in mind that he's much more smarter and accomplished than you are. :)
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seems our resident right wingers have forgotten how quickly they embraced every new nutbag that entered the race last year
Shit, at one time we had Bachman, Trump, Cain, Perry on top and I think even Santorum got to spend a few days there too
Cruz is hated by the Republican establishment so it's hard to believe he is going to be treated any better than Ron Paul
I haven't embraced him. In fact, he's so new on the scene, I don't know shit about him.
So BF is right, tell us why he's a nutbag? I gotta feeling you don't know much about him either.
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In your own words, feel free to explain how Cruz is a nutbag.
Keep in mind that he's much more smarter and accomplished than you are. :)
Hey Fairy
I'm much smarter and more accomplished than you are so why don't you stop stalking me and go stroke 333 some more
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Hey Fairy
I'm much smarter and more accomplished than you are so why don't you stop stalking me and go stroke 333 some more
another deflection, par for the course
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another deflection, par for the course
fuck off Tony
Fairy can't stop stalking me and you're getting close to being the same way
No one this board has to respond to anyone
If I feel like responding to someone then I will
If I feel it's a complete waste of my time and the person is a total moron that I won't
so far you're on the fence and Fairy has fallen over it
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fuck off Tony
Fairy can't stop stalking me and you're getting close to being the same way
No one this board has to respond to anyone
If I feel like responding to someone then I will
If I feel it's a complete waste of my time and the person is a total moron that I won't
so far you're on the fence and Fairy has fallen over it
absolutely you dont have to respond to anyone broham
continue right along looking like the fundy libtard you are who can make a coherent argument on any of your stances.
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absolutely you dont have to respond to anyone broham
continue right along looking like the fundy libtard you are who can make a coherent argument on any of your stances.
you're the only fundy libtard on this board (I'm going by the classical definition of course which has nothing to do with religion our politics)
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Hey Fairy
I'm much smarter and more accomplished than you are so why don't you stop stalking me and go stroke 333 some more
Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question, bitch?
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you're the only fundy libtard on this board (I'm going by the classical definition of course which has nothing to do with religion our politics)
;D
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Why don't you stop deflecting and answer the question, bitch?
Bump for the board's bitch.
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Dershowitz: Ted Cruz one of Harvard Law’s smartest students
8:34 PM 05/09/2013
Famed Harvard Law School professor Alan Dershowitz ranks Sen. Ted Cruz among the school’s smartest students, adding that the Canada-born Texan can run for president in 2016.
Cruz was a “terrific student,” Dershowitz told The Daily Caller. “He was always very active in class, presenting a libertarian point of view. He didn’t strike me as a social conservative, more of a libertarian.”
“He had brilliant insights and he was clearly among the top students, as revealed by his class responses,” Dershowitz added.
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Dershowitz also gave a high estimate of Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren — who has decidedly different political views than Cruz.
Dershowitz says he and Cruz would often debate issues presented in Dershowitz’s criminal law class. “Cruz’s views were always thoughtful and his responses were interesting,” the law professor explained. “I obviously disagreed with them and we had good arguments in class. I would challenge him and he would come up with very good responses.”
Cruz’s “career has not surprised me. I thought he would go on to accomplish important things.”
“His movement toward social conservatism has surprised me a little bit,” Dershowitz added, but “people will change and perhaps when you are at Harvard Law School you are less likely to espouse a socially conservative point of view.”
Cruz “was an outstanding student in my class,” Dershowitz said. “Without a doubt he is among the smartest students I’ve ever had… I’ve had great students but he has to be at the top of anyone’s short list, in terms of raw brain power.”
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Dershowitz places Cruz alongside Warren among the Senate’s smartest members.
“Their election raised the IQ level of the Senate discernibly. The two of them have to be among the smartest senators now,” Dershowitz said.
Dershowitz and Cruz stayed in touch when Cruz was a law clerk for Justice William Rehnquist and then Texas solicitor general. Dershowitz called Cruz and wished him well when he ran for U.S. Senate.
Does Dershowitz think Cruz should run for president?
“The question is whether he can,” Dershowitz said. “I think he can. I think he’s a natural-born citizen and therefore he’s eligible to run. There will be challenges, perhaps, to his eligibility.”
But Dershowitz doesn’t think that his old student would win the 2016 GOP nomination.
“I don’t think he’ll get the nomination when you think about Rubio and posturing himself a little more to the center on immigration,” Dershowitz said. “Cruz won’t run in 2016 and that he’ll wait. Just a prediction. He would probably establish himself first before he ran.”
“Everyone is following the Obama model” of serving a few years in the U.S. Senate and then running for president, Dershowitz said.
(Full disclosure: Charles Johnson served as a research assistant to Alan Dershowitz on several books and cases and Senator Ted Cruz has written on his book, Why Coolidge Matters: Leadership Lessons From America’s Most Underrated President.)
Tags: Alan Dershowitz, Elizabeth Warren, Harvard Law School, Ted Cruz
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/09/dershowitz-tex-cruz-one-of-harvard-laws-smartest-students/#ixzz2SuU2WWYV
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I'm still waiting for this scumbag to explain, in his own words, how Cruz is a nutter.
I know he's reading this thread as he spends every single day on this board stalking you.
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I'm still waiting for this scumbag to explain, in his own words, how Cruz is a nutter.
I know he's reading this thread as he spends every single day on this board stalking you.
answered it many times in many threads
now stop stalking me Fairy
I know you're the self appointed stalker sheriff but you're the only one who actually stalks people on this board
your hero 333 begs me to pay attention to him and that seems to make you jealous
why don't you two funboys just get offline and go find a room
try telling him you're a twink