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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2007, 11:59:33 AM »
The inspectors' inspections were cut short by Bush's ordered invasion.

Bush was using force to make sure Hussein complied w/ UN resolutions for disarmament.

How does Bush's attacking Iraq for non-compliance (not letting in inspectors) relate to Iraq's compliance by letting inspectors search Iraq for WMDs?

Does that make sense to you now?

Anyways, Res. 1441 DID NOT authorize Pres. Bush to use force to enforce Res. 1441.  Only the UN Security Council can make that judgment.

If you can explain either of those two points, then I'm with you.

Otherwise, this invasion is criminal.

The inspectors' inspections were cut short by Bush's ordered invasion

This goes back to my initial statement of letting people go for to long without correcting tehm. How long did you want Saddam to be able to fuck with the inspectors?

I still don't think it is criminal, but if you think it is then why is nothing done about it? As much as the world hates bush?

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2007, 12:16:17 PM »
The inspectors' inspections were cut short by Bush's ordered invasion

This goes back to my initial statement of letting people go for to long without correcting tehm. How long did you want Saddam to be able to fuck with the inspectors?

I still don't think it is criminal, but if you think it is then why is nothing done about it? As much as the world hates bush?
No doubt Bush's sabre rattling compelled Hussein's compliance.

The brute fact of the matter is is that Iraq did comply with inspections.  That's undeniable.

To attack a country that is complying w/ UN inspections on the basis of enforcing those inspections defies logic and the law.

Who is going to impeach the president?  The republicans...they have no spine.  The democrats...the first words out of Speaker Pelosi's mouth were "impeachments off the table."

After Bush's presidency, he may pursued by some international judicial bodies for his alleged war crimes. 

A war of aggression is replete with those types of charges.

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2007, 12:25:35 PM »
No doubt Bush's sabre rattling compelled Hussein's compliance.

The brute fact of the matter is is that Iraq did comply with inspections.  That's undeniable.

To attack a country that is complying w/ UN inspections on the basis of enforcing those inspections defies logic and the law.

Who is going to impeach the president?  The republicans...they have no spine.  The democrats...the first words out of Speaker Pelosi's mouth were "impeachments off the table."

After Bush's presidency, he may pursued by some international judicial bodies for his alleged war crimes. 

A war of aggression is replete with those types of charges.

The brute fact of the matter is is that Iraq did comply with inspections.  That's undeniable

Undeniable? not according to the articles you posted. They found many things missing or out of compliance with the resolutions

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2007, 01:10:52 PM »
The brute fact of the matter is is that Iraq did comply with inspections.  That's undeniable

Undeniable? not according to the articles you posted. They found many things missing or out of compliance with the resolutions
You are conflating the issues.

Res. 1441 referred to Hussein's letting WMD inspectors into Iraq--that's where the law was broken.

The findings of the inspectors are another matter:  no WMDs were found.  The accounting for weapons from 1998 and before prove nothing except that more inspections were required to verify what WMDS were in fact in Iraq. 

And you know what?  The iraqis were telling the truth that they destroyed the weapons.

What the Inspectors did not discover was any evidence supporting Colin Powell's 'evidence' from his presentation to the UN.

That was shown to be bullshit.

As I said, Bush's invasion cut short the inspections.  They were turning up no evidence of WMDs and Bush pulled the trigger illegally.

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2007, 06:29:21 PM »
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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2007, 06:34:55 PM »
What ideals of UN do you consider to be "socialist"?

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Redistribution of wealth, the abolishment of private land ownership and private gun ownership just to name a few.


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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2007, 08:26:37 PM »
Redistribution of wealth, the abolishment of private land ownership and private gun ownership just to name a few.



I don't think the UN mentions any of these in its charter.

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2007, 08:29:29 PM »
 W8T, you forgot Universal Healthcare. I'm tired of hand-outs; as the Good Book says: you don't work, you don't eat.

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #58 on: May 15, 2007, 08:43:41 PM »
Redistribution of wealth, the abolishment of private land ownership and private gun ownership just to name a few.



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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2007, 05:46:36 PM »
I don't think the UN mentions any of these in its charter.

do some reading.

it's not hard to find.

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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #60 on: May 16, 2007, 05:49:29 PM »
W8T, you forgot Universal Healthcare. I'm tired of hand-outs; as the Good Book says: you don't work, you don't eat.

Helping those that can't help themselves is one thing.

It's another to keep giving "assistance" to able bodied people that are simply to lazy to work and contribute to society.


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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2007, 05:57:38 PM »
Helping those that can't help themselves is one thing.

It's another to keep giving "assistance" to able bodied people that are simply to lazy to work and contribute to society.



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Re: Are You A Republican? (Volume 2)
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2007, 04:19:41 AM »
This topic was really fun to read because ALL OF YOU have to admit that regardless of what the democrats have or have not done, REPUBLICANISM is the true politics of America.