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Curious.
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Just ghrp6= Bloaty bloat bloat bloat
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Just ghrp6= Bloaty bloat bloat bloat
This, pretty much. I did ghrp2 w cjc or whatever...not really worth the cost or hassle. Kept me "full" (bloated), veiny, and hungry. Better skin/hair, general sense of well-being too
If you do it, don't bother with the fancy stuff and the complicated protocols... Just do a big dose, 300-500mcg first thing in the morning. I noticed more from that than anything else.
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GHRP2 w CJC wo DAC, u'll feel good, get better pumps and sleep better. but with some water retention as well.
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fullness is the main reason I'd use it.
did a 400mcg shot of ghrp2 last night before bed and slept like a baby.
I've run 3-4mg cjc with dac along with about 500mcg/day of ghrp2/6 for a while, the main thing I noticed was fullness and good pumps.
I hate cjc w/o dac, as it gives a horrible flush/fullness to my face.. feels like my eyes will pop out of my head. so rather than feeling that feeling everyday, I just did 1 large 3-4mg dose of cjc w/dac once a week.
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fullness is the main reason I'd use it.
did a 400mcg shot of ghrp2 last night before bed and slept like a baby.
I've run 3-4mg cjc with dac along with about 500mcg/day of ghrp2/6 for a while, the main thing I noticed was fullness and good pumps.
I hate cjc w/o dac, as it gives a horrible flush/fullness to my face.. feels like my eyes will pop out of my head. so rather than feeling that feeling everyday, I just did 1 large 3-4mg dose of cjc w/dac once a week.
LOL. I wish ESF would change his name to "The Experiment"
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LOL. I wish ESF would change his name to "The Experiment"
sounds good to me. lol...
mods make it happen ;)
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sounds good to me. lol...
mods make it happen ;)
I guess PM OneMoreRep and Ron. I think Ron is the only guy that can change names.
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btw, jumped on the scale tonight and I'm up about 8lbs in about 1 day.
did an injection last night before bed.
yesterday's meals were fairly carb heavy.. pancakes, ect...
did a 500mcg injection this am
ate 9 pancakes with 3 big glasses of milk (about 16oz each)... about 5 cans mt. dew so far... 4 pieces of toast... 2 buffalo ranch McChicken's with extra buffalo and ranch sauce each.. about 30oz water.. and a 10piece McNugget w/2 packs honey mustard sauce and 1 pack bbq.
pre workout took 12.5mg ephedrine sulphate, 1.5 scoops Superdrive (gaspari) and 150mg dbol.
intraworkout was a 20oz Gatorade with a scoop (maybe 2? I forget) of Gaspari's powder amino's.. Aminoblast? or something.. no idea how many g's that is.
wasn't really even feeling the ephedrine or superdrive, but got a good pump. arms taped out post workout at a lil over 19.5 (bicep and tricep pump).
got another 10piece chicken nugget to go (with 2 packs honey mustard and 1 pack bbq) tonight, and will also probably have 2-4 more Buffalo Ranch McChicken's as well.... and will probably have either a cup of jasmine rice or some more pancakes before bed as well. (we'll see what I get hungry for when I go to walmart at around midnight to get milk and more pancakes... the pancakes are maple frozen pancakes from walmart for $3.50 per bag.. I think there's about a dozen or so packs of 3 per bag).
will also do another 500mcg dose of ghrp2 when I get home.
if this keeps up i'll go for another 15lbs before I make the switch to tren (from deca).
even cut my test and deca doses down the past couple weeks. mostly do to injection discomfort. shooting 3cc's of 400mg/ml test E and 400mg/ml deca in 4 different sites twice a week fucking sucks after a while... so I've cut down to just 1 injection day per week.
each syringe being 1cc 110mg/cc test cyp, 1cc 400mg test e, 1cc 400mg deca
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btw, jumped on the scale tonight and I'm up about 8lbs in about 1 day.
did an injection last night before bed.
yesterday's meals were fairly carb heavy.. pancakes, ect...
did a 500mcg injection this am
ate 9 pancakes with 3 big glasses of milk (about 16oz each)... about 5 cans mt. dew so far... 4 pieces of toast... 2 buffalo ranch McChicken's with extra buffalo and ranch sauce each.. about 30oz water.. and a 10piece McNugget w/2 packs honey mustard sauce and 1 pack bbq.
pre workout took 12.5mg ephedrine sulphate, 1.5 scoops Superdrive (gaspari) and 150mg dbol.
intraworkout was a 20oz Gatorade with a scoop (maybe 2? I forget) of Gaspari's powder amino's.. Aminoblast? or something.. no idea how many g's that is.
wasn't really even feeling the ephedrine or superdrive, but got a good pump. arms taped out post workout at a lil over 19.5 (bicep and tricep pump).
got another 10piece chicken nugget to go (with 2 packs honey mustard and 1 pack bbq) tonight, and will also probably have 2-4 more Buffalo Ranch McChicken's as well.... and will probably have either a cup of jasmine rice or some more pancakes before bed as well. (we'll see what I get hungry for when I go to walmart at around midnight to get milk and more pancakes... the pancakes are maple frozen pancakes from walmart for $3.50 per bag.. I think there's about a dozen or so packs of 3 per bag).
will also do another 500mcg dose of ghrp2 when I get home.
if this keeps up i'll go for another 15lbs before I make the switch to tren (from deca).
even cut my test and deca doses down the past couple weeks. mostly do to injection discomfort. shooting 3cc's of 400mg/ml test E and 400mg/ml deca in 4 different sites twice a week fucking sucks after a while... so I've cut down to just 1 injection day per week.
each syringe being 1cc 110mg/cc test cyp, 1cc 400mg test e, 1cc 400mg deca
Yeahhhhhh the ghrp whatever that useless shit is gives you "fullness" and "good pumps" not the fucking 10lbs of mcdonalds you eat... ::)
There were people that ONLY took Dbol like Larry Scott etc who I'd be willing to bet money looked 1000 times better than you on some ridiculous 10gram whatever bullshit you claim. It's bullshit. I have yet to see any pic of you not a calf, not a forearm, not a bicep, not one vein...
You are shady as fuck and probably a fat basement dweller. I take every single thing you say with the tiniest grain of shit salt.
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Yeahhhhhh the ghrp whatever that useless shit is gives you "fullness" and "good pumps" not the fucking 10lbs of mcdonalds you eat... ::)
There were people that ONLY took Dbol like Larry Scott etc who I'd be willing to bet money looked 1000 times better than you on some ridiculous 10gram whatever bullshit you claim. It's bullshit. I have yet to see any pic of you not a calf, not a forearm, not a bicep, not one vein...
You are shady as fuck and probably a fat basement dweller. I take every single thing you say with the tiniest grain of shit salt.
whatever you say Mr.300 posts.. post under your other handle, champ. ;)
and why would I post a pic here? and hope to get some "good job dude" "great back bro" comments from a bunch of people who don't mean anything whatsoever to me in REAL life.
that means you too.. you don't matter.
shady as fuck? how so? most ppl here know everything about me. a troll tried to 'call me out' just like you do, and low and behold, I was everything I said I was.
make some better use of your time. rather than trolling me, why don't you go read a book. Gray's Anatomy, Introduction to Endocrinology, Harry Potter, Managerial Accounting, hell, even 50 Shades of Grey. you're not gonna win
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whatever you say Mr.300 posts.. post under your other handle, champ. ;)
and why would I post a pic here? and hope to get some "good job dude" "great back bro" comments from a bunch of people who don't mean anything whatsoever to me in REAL life.
that means you too.. you don't matter.
shady as fuck? how so? most ppl here know everything about me. a troll tried to 'call me out' just like you do, and low and behold, I was everything I said I was.
make some better use of your time. rather than trolling me, why don't you go read a book. Gray's Anatomy, Introduction to Endocrinology, Harry Potter, Managerial Accounting, hell, even 50 Shades of Grey. you're not gonna win
I'm not really into taking pictures either and for the same reasons. I don't care what anybody on this forum thinks. Hell Pro Bodybuilders get bashed here all the time and then never come and post here again! Just wondering how you proved you were everything you said you were without a picture?
I showed my hands and the insane Nail growth I got from Human grade HGH just to shut people up about how kigtropin made their nails grow like crazy in a few days. I def took the cake using serostim at 4 IU's a day! not 15 IU's of kigtropin. Nobody had ever seen fingernails like that, then they tried to judge my whole physique on just looking at my hands-lol. My hands were swollen (no doubt) but that was from HGH. I can barely right HGH numbs my hands so bad and does make me hold water and my hands def look puffy, but no way you could tell what my other bodyparts look like. I have small hands but I have told everybody for years I am 5 ft 6IN. what the fuck do you expect.
I have no problem with anybody showing a picture of that picture I posted, why? because you can clearly see I am not fat and the whole point of the thread was Human Grade HGH does
work better then those old magical kigs that turned people into a pro BB overnight,my nail growth was proof and nobody on kigtropin could beat that kind of insane fast nail growth I get from USA FDA approved HGH.
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I have never heard of the compounds spoken in this thread in real life.
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whatever you say Mr.300 posts.. post under your other handle, champ. ;)
and why would I post a pic here? and hope to get some "good job dude" "great back bro" comments from a bunch of people who don't mean anything whatsoever to me in REAL life.
that means you too.. you don't matter.
shady as fuck? how so? most ppl here know everything about me. a troll tried to 'call me out' just like you do, and low and behold, I was everything I said I was.
make some better use of your time. rather than trolling me, why don't you go read a book. Gray's Anatomy, Introduction to Endocrinology, Harry Potter, Managerial Accounting, hell, even 50 Shades of Grey. you're not gonna win
You are a morbidly obese basement dweller with hearsay knowledge of gear from endlessly lurking on forums...Prove otherwise please. K then stfu.
Some of the shit I've seen you type is completely ridiculous. I, like everyone else, just don't give enough of a shit to physically press "reply" to address it, the lames will believe your shit, no skin off my back.
I do what I do with my time...How is that relevant? Weak attempt to bring me down to your level of guilt and shame you live with from trolling forums out of your parent's basement all day. Not gonna happen. I have a life beyond spouting nonsense drug talk on a forum with 50 active members at best lol..
Gossip and opinions transcends bodybuilding and is just fun to bullshit on...The steroid forum here is pathetic, which is why idiots like you have free reign without being run off the board like I assume you have been on many others.
I did win, just now, with this post. It's 100% win and you are fucking owned, by me. If you were more significant and worth the time more people would own you regularly, because it's easy.
If you reply to this it will only cement the ownage that you have received, from me, your owner.
Good day.
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You are a morbidly obese basement dweller with hearsay knowledge of gear from endlessly lurking on forums...Prove otherwise please. K then stfu.
Some of the shit I've seen you type is completely ridiculous. I, like everyone else, just don't give enough of a shit to physically press "reply" to address it, the lames will believe your shit, no skin off my back.
I do what I do with my time...How is that relevant? Weak attempt to bring me down to your level of guilt and shame you live with from trolling forums out of your parent's basement all day. Not gonna happen. I have a life beyond spouting nonsense drug talk on a forum with 50 active members at best lol..
Gossip and opinions transcends bodybuilding and is just fun to bullshit on...The steroid forum here is pathetic, which is why idiots like you have free reign without being run off the board like I assume you have been on many others.
I did win, just now, with this post. It's 100% win and you are fucking owned, by me. If you were more significant and worth the time more people would own you regularly, because it's easy.
If you reply to this it will only cement the ownage that you have received, from me, your owner.
Good day.
lol @ "prove otherwise... stfu"
lol.. prove what? to who? you? lol.. fuck you and your mother. you fucking chump.
hit the search button you fucking ignorant piss-ant.
lol at "owner".
I'm easy to find.
if you're in SoCal, maybe you'd like to meet up and discuss your insecurities.
pm me.
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btw...
either it was the large doses of GHRP2, the 4 buffalo ranch mcchickens, or the scoop or two of the Amino-acid powder I had yesterday.. but something made me shit my fucking brains out like crazy last night. lol.
don't believe I've ever had that side effect from ghrp2 before... not that I recall.
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I used these a bit and it isn't magical but it does help a little with soft tissue healing like tendonitis. Seems to help give a deep sleep but doesn't exactly make you sleepy. Here is my take:
GHRH's:
GFR1-29 / aka CJC1295 no DAC = flip the switch on but is short half life so you should pin every time you use a GHRP.
CJC1293 - similar to above shorter half life but works ok.
CJC1295 with DAC - longer half life and can go 1x a week or lesser dose x2 a week. Seems to give similar results. Just less pinning. Lots of BS about it causing cancer and tumors and blah blah... but clinical studies show large doses with no adverse effects on regular GH pulse.
GHRP's:
GHRP-2 - suppose to be stronger. For me anything above 100mcg = hunger and a bit restless for sleep.
GHRP-6 - if the above made me hungry I didn't even try this one.
Ipamorelin - no hunger, no negative sides, good sleep, slightly thinner skin, and good healing. Injecting at site of injury works well.
Hexarelin - strongest of all but you become de-sensitized to it after like 2-weeks.
IGF's;
IGFLR3 - hard to find REAL stuff these days. But small 25mcg every day worked great for a bit of extra healing. Seems to have heath benefits along this line like the GHRH/GHRP combo's but again nothing magical.
Sadly seems like most peptide companies spring up quick. All promise great purity and made in USA, etc. But the most die off after a year or two. Seems the industry has gotten all screwed up even though it is "legal" for research purposes. Last great stuff I had was from LabPe but they stopped making all GH releasing products. :-\
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I used these a bit and it isn't magical but it does help a little with soft tissue healing like tendonitis. Seems to help give a deep sleep but doesn't exactly make you sleepy. Here is my take:
GHRH's:
GFR1-29 / aka CJC1295 no DAC = flip the switch on but is short half life so you should pin every time you use a GHRP.
CJC1293 - similar to above shorter half life but works ok.
CJC1295 with DAC - longer half life and can go 1x a week or lesser dose x2 a week. Seems to give similar results. Just less pinning. Lots of BS about it causing cancer and tumors and blah blah... but clinical studies show large doses with no adverse effects on regular GH pulse.
GHRP's:
GHRP-2 - suppose to be stronger. For me anything above 100mcg = hunger and a bit restless for sleep.
GHRP-6 - if the above made me hungry I didn't even try this one.
Ipamorelin - no hunger, no negative sides, good sleep, slightly thinner skin, and good healing. Injecting at site of injury works well.
Hexarelin - strongest of all but you become de-sensitized to it after like 2-weeks.
IGF's;
IGFLR3 - hard to find REAL stuff these days. But small 25mcg every day worked great for a bit of extra healing. Seems to have heath benefits along this line like the GHRH/GHRP combo's but again nothing magical.
Sadly seems like most peptide companies spring up quick. All promise great purity and made in USA, etc. But the most die off after a year or two. Seems the industry has gotten all screwed up even though it is "legal" for research purposes. Last great stuff I had was from LabPe but they stopped making all GH releasing products. :-\
I believe they have another company that they sell their ghrp/pep stuff through now.
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Is that pepbridge? I'm assuming we can use lab names since research companies are legal and legit. If yes the only thing I noticed is when you search the info that comes up in pay pal it shows up as some company name in hong kong. That made me a little leery. Other than that it was ok.
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Is that pepbridge? I'm assuming we can use lab names since research companies are legal and legit. If yes the only thing I noticed is when you search the info that comes up in pay pal it shows up as some company name in hong kong. That made me a little leery. Other than that it was ok.
that sounds right. I stopped using them when they switched.
I preferred them to most other companies, other than genx, but they're gone too.. then did a shit-load with manpowerresearch/mp until they fucked me on my t3/t4, then they went out of biz due to identity theft.
now I've been using maxim, evolution, melanotanpeptide (although last I saw, they were down as well.. havnt' checked in a couple weeks though).
evolution seems to give me the shits though, for some reason.. but I did put on 11lbs from wed-Saturday evening with it though.
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btw...
either it was the large doses of GHRP2, the 4 buffalo ranch mcchickens, or the scoop or two of the Amino-acid powder I had yesterday.. but something made me shit my fucking brains out like crazy last night. lol.
don't believe I've ever had that side effect from ghrp2 before... not that I recall.
The ghrp probably did it. It is supposed to increase gastric motility ie shit your pants quicker. I'm interested in trying T500, sounds interesting for injuries.
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that sounds right. I stopped using them when they switched.
I preferred them to most other companies, other than genx, but they're gone too.. then did a shit-load with manpowerresearch/mp until they fucked me on my t3/t4, then they went out of biz due to identity theft.
now I've been using maxim, evolution, melanotanpeptide (although last I saw, they were down as well.. havnt' checked in a couple weeks though).
evolution seems to give me the shits though, for some reason.. but I did put on 11lbs from wed-Saturday evening with it though.
I did the same brother. I started using purchase peptides and those seemed ok. They recently merged though with Ergo pep, so only time will tell if that is a good thing or not.
I had also tried a few others that did nothing and then shortly after they went out of business. Amazing how whore'd up that industry is getting. I miss the days of labpe!
Which ones have you like best so far? Maxim seems like they been around a while. 8)
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If you are using Maxim, Evolution, Extreme, HCP, or a couple others that just started up... then just stick with going straight to the top with PurchasePeptides. Trust me on this.
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If you are using Maxim, Evolution, Extreme, HCP, or a couple others that just started up... then just stick with going straight to the top with PurchasePeptides. Trust me on this.
does this apply for peptides only or everything including research chems?
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Have you guys tried any of AR-R's research chemicals and are they any good? That's all ive ever used so I hope I haven't been getting ripped off lol.
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Have you guys tried any of AR-R's research chemicals and are they any good? That's all ive ever used so I hope I haven't been getting ripped off lol.
Way overpriced.
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pep companies usually get their stuff from the same companies.. only difference is the label and fliptop.
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I heard good stuff about AR-R/CEM/RUI but they are way expensive. Always wondered if it was worth it or not. LOL ;D
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I used these a bit and it isn't magical but it does help a little with soft tissue healing like tendonitis. Seems to help give a deep sleep but doesn't exactly make you sleepy. Here is my take:
GHRH's:
GFR1-29 / aka CJC1295 no DAC = flip the switch on but is short half life so you should pin every time you use a GHRP.
CJC1293 - similar to above shorter half life but works ok.
CJC1295 with DAC - longer half life and can go 1x a week or lesser dose x2 a week. Seems to give similar results. Just less pinning. Lots of BS about it causing cancer and tumors and blah blah... but clinical studies show large doses with no adverse effects on regular GH pulse.
GHRP's:
GHRP-2 - suppose to be stronger. For me anything above 100mcg = hunger and a bit restless for sleep.
GHRP-6 - if the above made me hungry I didn't even try this one.
Ipamorelin - no hunger, no negative sides, good sleep, slightly thinner skin, and good healing. Injecting at site of injury works well.
Hexarelin - strongest of all but you become de-sensitized to it after like 2-weeks.
IGF's;
IGFLR3 - hard to find REAL stuff these days. But small 25mcg every day worked great for a bit of extra healing. Seems to have heath benefits along this line like the GHRH/GHRP combo's but again nothing magical.
Sadly seems like most peptide companies spring up quick. All promise great purity and made in USA, etc. But the most die off after a year or two. Seems the industry has gotten all screwed up even though it is "legal" for research purposes. Last great stuff I had was from LabPe but they stopped making all GH releasing products. :-\
Have you or anyone else used TB-500? I'm really interested in it and am going to try it next month. Just wanted to see what other people experienced on it.
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I heard good stuff about AR-R/CEM/RUI but they are way expensive. Always wondered if it was worth it or not. LOL ;D
i get most my peps free, but if i had to pay for them, I'd probably put the cash towards maxim peptides or even evolution pep's. i'll be goddamned if any of my money is gonna go into Phil Hernon's pocket, so PP/Ergo is out of the question for me. i'll spit in that fucking disrespectfull punks face if i ever see him.
I'm less than a week into my ghrp2 from evo and I'm still up 11+lbs. that's with two shots a day, 30mins before my first meal, and then again at about 1230am and i eat till i go to bed around 330/4am. about 15-20iu's per dose. about 400mcg per shot, roughly.
... not too watery either. ankles are holding a lil water, as are my hands and wrists (i can actually wear my GMT w/o it moving on my wrist... which is how i tell if I'm holding water, that and seeing indents on my ankles from socks. lol), but my back and chest are thinner and fuller, as are arms. vascularity is up as well in delts/tri's/bi's.
huge pumps as well.
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i get most my peps free, but if i had to pay for them, I'd probably put the cash towards maxim peptides or even evolution pep's. i'll be goddamned if any of my money is gonna go into Phil Hernon's pocket, so PP/Ergo is out of the question for me. i'll spit in that fucking disrespectfull punks face if i ever see him.
I'm less than a week into my ghrp2 from evo and I'm still up 11+lbs. that's with two shots a day, 30mins before my first meal, and then again at about 1230am and i eat till i go to bed around 330/4am. about 15-20iu's per dose. about 400mcg per shot, roughly.
... not too watery either. ankles are holding a lil water, as are my hands and wrists (i can actually wear my GMT w/o it moving on my wrist... which is how i tell if I'm holding water, that and seeing indents on my ankles from socks. lol), but my back and chest are thinner and fuller, as are arms. vascularity is up as well in delts/tri's/bi's.
huge pumps as well.
Damn, now I want to try ghrp2. Do you notice more bloating with ghrp or gh? My ankles blow up bigger than Hillary Clinton's when I take gh, so I don't know what the ghrp will do to me. Is it still making you shit your pants? Some sides are easier to deal with than others, but shitting yourself is a brutal one. Peptides are something I am going to delve into now that I have some cash to spend on them. Still want to try tb-500 too.
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Damn, now I want to try ghrp2. Do you notice more bloating with ghrp or gh? My ankles blow up bigger than Hillary Clinton's when I take gh, so I don't know what the ghrp will do to me. Is it still making you shit your pants? Some sides are easier to deal with than others, but shitting yourself is a brutal one. Peptides are something I am going to delve into now that I have some cash to spend on them. Still want to try tb-500 too.
gh bloating is worse.
I only had the diarrhea problem the first couple days, and I think it was from some Buffalo Ranch McChicken's from Mcd's, as I haven't had the problem since.. and my gf had similar problem when she ate one of my leftover McChicken's the other day as well.
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i get most my peps free, but if i had to pay for them, I'd probably put the cash towards maxim peptides or even evolution pep's. i'll be goddamned if any of my money is gonna go into Phil Hernon's pocket, so PP/Ergo is out of the question for me. i'll spit in that fucking disrespectfull punks face if i ever see him.
I'm less than a week into my ghrp2 from evo and I'm still up 11+lbs. that's with two shots a day, 30mins before my first meal, and then again at about 1230am and i eat till i go to bed around 330/4am. about 15-20iu's per dose. about 400mcg per shot, roughly.
... not too watery either. ankles are holding a lil water, as are my hands and wrists (i can actually wear my GMT w/o it moving on my wrist... which is how i tell if I'm holding water, that and seeing indents on my ankles from socks. lol), but my back and chest are thinner and fuller, as are arms. vascularity is up as well in delts/tri's/bi's.
huge pumps as well.
You obviously are unaware that Maxim, Evolution, HCP, and Extreme order their peps through PP. How do you think they can offer them at the prices they have? Only because PPs buying power gives them a big enough bulk discount can those other little places offer American peps at the prices they do. I don't mean they get the peps from the same place PP does, they get them directly from PP after the order comes in. Same ohipment, same pallet.
So if you are buying anything from those four or from the new pep that Dale is starting up in the next month, then you are in effect contributing to PPs profit margin that Phil gets paid from.
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Lurker whats your take on these peptides? What do you recommend?
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You obviously are unaware that Maxim, Evolution, HCP, and Extreme order their peps through PP. How do you think they can offer them at the prices they have? Only because PPs buying power gives them a big enough bulk discount can those other little places offer American peps at the prices they do. I don't mean they get the peps from the same place PP does, they get them directly from PP after the order comes in. Same ohipment, same pallet.
So if you are buying anything from those four or from the new pep that Dale is starting up in the next month, then you are in effect contributing to PPs profit margin that Phil gets paid from.
I don't really care about that.
phil can have my pennies, but I'm not giving him my dollars.
a guy can have an issue with me and refuse to buy directly from me or I can refuse to sell directly to him, that's fine.. he can buy from a reseller and pay a lil more, no big deal and I in turn get smaller profit than if I'd deal with him directly.... that's the way biz works sometimes.
so i'll be damned if I put a dollar in phils pocket, I'm ok with throwing pennies and nickels at his feet.
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I don't really care about that.
phil can have my pennies, but I'm not giving him my dollars.
a guy can have an issue with me and refuse to buy directly from me or I can refuse to sell directly to him, that's fine.. he can buy from a reseller and pay a lil more, no big deal and I in turn get smaller profit than if I'd deal with him directly.... that's the way biz works sometimes.
so i'll be damned if I put a dollar in phils pocket, I'm ok with throwing pennies and nickels at his feet.
Well actually it comes out a bit more than pennies and nickels, but I see what you are saying. Phil "The Shill" is not a really favorite person of mine, but I do have to admit that he can push ice cream to Eskimos when it comes to selling. His attitude and business sense leaves a bit to be desired, which is why the other two partners make all the decisions in the biz.
Sad thing is that Phil is actually an incredibly smart person with a ton of training, diet and AAS knowledge that beginners and intermediates could learn from. But his abrasive attitude just ruins it at times.
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Lurker whats your take on these peptides? What do you recommend?
My honest opinion? I am not a big fan of them and actually prefer legit hgh (Serostim) over them. Sometimes the reports/stories/fear mongering that goes on with them regarding cancer, etc.. on down the road does make me wonder. We (us BBers in general) have not been using these consistently for a long enough time to really judge any side effects they may produce down the road.
Despite having anything I want to use at my fingertips, I have used very little of them.
MT2 - this works. No doubt about it, the results are clear and you can see it in the mirror after 7 days.
GHRP6 - Did not like this as it made me crave food (mostly carbs) endlessly
TB500 - does have a slight healing/pain masking effect and cardio boost. But the reports of it healing torn/worn RCs or carpal tunnel syndrome are overblown.
Follistatin - went through $600 a week of this with another company when it first hit the scene. Not a damn thing happened.
That is all I have direct experience with. To be honest, I haven't even read up on what most of the other ones do or what people claim they do. Serostim simply does what I want it to do much better. I do get a bit of water in my face around the 3rd week, but by the 6th - no later than the 7th - that water is gone.
My next cycle is right around the corner (I only do one cycle per year starting on April 1st), perhaps I should hit a heavy dose of peps this go around.
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You obviously are unaware that Maxim, Evolution, HCP, and Extreme order their peps through PP. How do you think they can offer them at the prices they have? Only because PPs buying power gives them a big enough bulk discount can those other little places offer American peps at the prices they do. I don't mean they get the peps from the same place PP does, they get them directly from PP after the order comes in. Same ohipment, same pallet.
So if you are buying anything from those four or from the new pep that Dale is starting up in the next month, then you are in effect contributing to PPs profit margin that Phil gets paid from.
Really? I never heard this one before. It wouldn't surprise me though. They all brag "made in usa" probably more like all bottled in usa from Chinese crap. ;D
PS. No never tried TB500. I heard it is good for injuries though. For me GHRH + GHRP + IGFLR3 all worked really good so I never messed with anything else for injuries.
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Really? I never heard this one before. It wouldn't surprise me though. They all brag "made in usa" probably more like all bottled in usa from Chinese crap. ;D
PS. No never tried TB500. I heard it is good for injuries though. For me GHRH + GHRP + IGFLR3 all worked really good so I never messed with anything else for injuries.
Understand how that works....
There are plenty of peps that come from other places that are "made in the USA". But they are made with chinese raws. The manufacturers simply break down the bulk product into individual vials/bottles.
PurchasePeptides and it's affiliates are the ONLY places that you can get peps that are made in the USA directly from USA raws at this moment. Unlike chinese raws that are shipped over and revialed/resealed/rebottled without being tested for purity, the peps that PP gets are tested at the facility here in Boston. USA made with USA raws.
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That's good info to know man. How did you find this out? ??? (just curious)
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That's good info to know man. How did you find this out? ??? (just curious)
I am very good friends with the two original owners who live less than 10 minutes away from me.
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Very cool! ;)
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well I'm convinced it's the GHRP2 that's giving me the shits/gas.
it does make me hungry, which is about all I use it for, but I'm still up about 11lbs and arms/delts/chest are harder and more separated... although the 2 shots of tren may have something to do with that. first dose was 150mg, second was only 75mg (of which I got the cough and aborted the 2nd syringe of 75mg tren/500 test/400 deca and saved it for tonight... I'm about done with using tren ace, btw. I'm sooo over that mini-heartattack/tren-cough bullshit. sticking with tren enan in the future).
last time I ran pep's I dont' believe I was on a 'large' dose of aas. at least not as large as I am now, so the effects may be amplified a bit, I suppose. arms are a separated and hard 18.5 cold at a fairly low bodyweight. at my 'largest' my arms were 19in cold, but that was at a bw of about 25lbs over what I am now.
so for the money, ghrp2 is worth looking into IMO... so long as your expectations include insane pumps and increased appetite.
will it cause hyperplasia? who knows.. I'm not really concerned. if I want 'gh results', i'll drop the cash on rips or hyge's, or have one of my clients bring back Norditropen pens from mexico (where he owns a couple homes).
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I have seen a lot of people including T4 in their GHRP2 / 6 + CJC wo DAC combo. Have you tried that?
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I have seen a lot of people including T4 in their GHRP2 / 6 + CJC wo DAC combo. Have you tried that?
nope.. didn't start using ghrp's till after my mpresearch t3/t4 $160k hospital bill mishap.
I have a bunch of pharma t4 now, perhaps i'll give it a go.. but I'm still a lil bit paranoid i'll drop another 40-50lbs again. lol
ppl also use huperzine-A, although I've never tried it... at least not with ghrp's. used it years ago when I had my supplement store as a 'study-aide/smart drug', but wasn't really impressed.
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Most GHRP's will cause ... how do they say it in medical terms? "gastric mobility". ;D LOL ;D So yes most likely it is giving you gas and shits. I never gained any weight from them though. Just helps with tendonitis is about it.