stripping is a respectable profession
The greatest ever?in his mind, maybe. The Nigerian Nightmare, was just that...only a bad dream.
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in his mind, maybe. The Nigerian Nightmare, was just that...only a bad dream.
But look at his physique. :o
It seems like stripping has bee the launching pad of many a pro---Kai, Idrise, Toney, Rodney, Don,
stripping is a respectable profession
Park park,from what you listed, there is little to no difference. Which is why it was a easy transition for some.
Can you tell me the major differences between stripping and an IFBB competition?
The way I see it, in both they:
...Need to be very physically fit/muscular
...Need to know how to pose
...Dance on stage douched in baby oil
...Get down to nothing but a thong
...Get judged by a panel of peers and industry insiders
...Get the most money based off of the level of both presentation and overall performance
...Have a crowd of either cheering men, women or both applauding their favorite "guy"
...Sometimes go home with an audience member for a little extra money
...Go home with a plastic trophy
...Have their pictures posted up on internet forums, as well as magazine covers (Flex, Playgirl etc.)
Do you know what the differences truly are?
I wholeheartedly agree.
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from what you listed, there is little to no difference. Which is why it was a easy transition for some.
On a slightly related note, I once saw Rodney St. Cloud at a gay strip club doing his thing and I must say that his penis was a thing of beauty.no, but JNN said it was _______
Have you seen that young man's penis (no homo)?
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Ronnie who?
The greatest ever?In his best condition ever he would not make top 10 in any Mr.Olympia line up, in fact Rich Gaspari beat him on stage weighing a whopping 50lb less that is how shitty Victor is on a stage.
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In his best condition ever he would not make top 10 in any Mr.Olympia line up, in fact Rich Gaspari beat him on stage weighing a whopping 50lb less that is how shitty Victor is on a stage.
People forget gym pics mean nothing. Dennis James is king of gym pics and would easily make Victor look like his little brother and you know what happens when he jumps on stage and he is not even as chubby as victor.
Little brother? Victor was 370 lbs at 5'10'' while Dennis weighed in at 260 lbs at 5'8''.
at what BF?
Little brother? Victor was 370 lbs at 5'10'' while Dennis weighed in at 260 lbs at 5'8''.You just made a complete retard of yourself for 2 reasons; 1 that is Ronnie in that pic and 2 Vic was never over 315 and a very fat 315, the pics of him are mostly of him at 260. Dennis dwarfs him in every angle and is way bigger muscle wise
You just made a complete retard of yourself for 2 reasons; 1 that is Ronnie in that pic and 2 Vic was never over 315 and a very fat 315, the pics of him are mostly of him at 260. Dennis dwarfs him in every angle and is way bigger muscle wise
You just made a complete retard of yourself for 2 reasons; 1 that is Ronnie in that pic and 2 Vic was never over 315 and a very fat 315, the pics of him are mostly of him at 260. Dennis dwarfs him in every angle and is way bigger muscle wise
LOL, if that's true no wonder Vic looks so vascular there.lol, bro someone put Vics head on Ronnie`s body and now you see how much bigger Ronnie is, you see.
lol, bro someone put Vics head on Ronnie`s body and now you see how much bigger Ronnie is, you see.
You mean that is Ronnie Coleman's body with a different head/face? That sure doesnt look like Ronnie, but his body does. Same chest and you can definitely tell by the abs.What is this, elementary school? you knew what I meant
LOL, if that's true no wonder Vic looks so vascular there. Vic was quoted as being 370 lbs on his website or somewhere else some years back; I'm not sure as to the accuracy of that.
lol, bro someone put Vics head on Ronnie`s body and now you see how much bigger Ronnie is, you see.
What is this, elementary school? you knew what I meant
i also read he had 25 inch arms, 65 inch chest, 36 inch quads, and ate 30,000 calories daily (5 chicken breasts and 10 cups of rice every meal, etc). ::)
I can't see Ron being much bigger than Vic, i mean they were 2 different body types where Vic is extremely stocky with a long torso and Ronnie has a slighter frame with an X shape. Vic was built more like a block, didn't have the genetics required to satisfy the judges need for aesthetics. dude was without a doubt a freak.
funny how people downplay him so much and try to put their thumb over him. anybody on here ever see the guy in person?? just for some clarification
I can't see Ron being much bigger than Vic, i mean they were 2 different body types where Vic is extremely stocky with a long torso and Ronnie has a slighter frame with an X shape. Vic was built more like a block, didn't have the genetics required to satisfy the judges need for aesthetics. dude was without a doubt a freak.Bro the bottom line is when kovacks turn pro he was over 300 on contest day, was 365 with abs, his arms were fucken huge and yes I have seen Victor R, Ronnie, Markus, Gunter and no one and I mean no one comes close to kovacks.
funny how people downplay him so much and try to put their thumb over him. anybody on here ever see the guy in person?? just for some clarification
Bro the bottom line is when kovacks turn pro he was over 300 on contest day, was 365 with abs, his arms were fucken huge and yes I have seen Victor R, Ronnie, Markus, Gunter and no one and I mean no one comes close to kovacks.When you saw Kovacs did he still look good? Before he ruined his build, he looked awesome at 30lbs for the North American Championships
Now imagine he never competed as a pro, the whole world would be saying he could have been Mr. Olympia, everyone would, the hype he was generating was outrageous. I remember reading an article in Musclemag saying Kovacks is going to the NOC and he will win that and will head to the Olympia at 340lb shredded and that he will make evryone look small. Go look at his pics of him at 365, he looked good, looked proportioned and was fairly lean, but brother contest day is a whole knew ball game, it is night and day. Plain and simple.
In his best condition ever he would not make top 10 in any Mr.Olympia line up, in fact Rich Gaspari beat him on stage weighing a whopping 50lb less that is how shitty Victor is on a stage.
People forget gym pics mean nothing. Dennis James is king of gym pics and would easily make Victor look like his little brother and you know what happens when he jumps on stage and he is not even as chubby as victor.
Didn't Richards throw a major temper tantrum, after Gaspari beat him? That's been the knock on Richards, that his ego can't take him, losing to smaller but better-conditioned bodybuilders.
Hi Rich. ::)
Vick dwarfed EVERYONE in Venice at the time except...Nasser's back training was lazy and unfocused...especially for a 280 pound bber.
... HUGE Nasser who doesn't really think very high of the nigerian, calling him lazy and unfocused.
Obamaesque.
Nasser's back training was lazy and unfocused...especially for a 280 pound bber.
Ronnie at his peak destroys Victor. Victor was never as ripped as Ronnie and his torso is too long with high lats insertions. His midsection stood out because it did not flow into the upper body.
Ronnie has that WOW factor that Victor did not have. He was big but not in the same league as Ronnie.
Didn't Richards throw a major temper tantrum, after Gaspari beat him? That's been the knock on Richards, that his ego can't take him, losing to smaller but better-conditioned bodybuilders.^^^ EXACTLY claimed the whole thing was a huge set up and that is why he never competed in the pro ranks, he was a sore loser. He was making 4000 per appearance so he had it made financially and generated enough publicity as the uncrowned Mr. Olympia, in fact when he gave speeches he would always have the attitude that if he stepped on staged it would be over for everyone and people bought into this.
When you saw Kovacs did he still look good? Before he ruined his build, he looked awesome at 30lbs for the North American ChampionshipsEven far after he ruined his build he still looked insane in the off-season, bodybuilding is the most mysterious thing on the planet.
I am 250lb here, standing 5'9 in 2008, we are talking at least 8 years after his all time freakish 400lb off-season look
In the gym, Vic Richards was the champ, he was made for mass
In contest shape, and I don't mean Mr Nigeria, I mean on a pro stage, to come in sliced he wouldve been under 250, possibly even 230
And still, wouldn't have beaten labrada, ray, gaspari, taylor, definitely not flex nor yates, haney
At best, he may have qualified for the olympia
He made the right choice, remain a freak, with the "what if" tag
The greatest ever?
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You think Victor Richards is the greatest bodybuilder? Really?LIKE SAYING HE'S CFL GREAT QUARTERBACK CUT IN THE NFL...RICHARDS WAS EVEN HYPED IN THE BATTLE OF 88 MR O VID,,,HE WAS HUGE BUT U COULD TELL DIETING WAS NOT HIS THING.LIKED BEING BIG AND THE WHAT'IF'TAG TO HIS NAME/BUILD...
Hmmm, ok, what is his contest record as a pro? zero, nada, nothing.
Granted Victor was an impressive guy to see in person, but as a bodybuilder he has no actual pro record.
To turn pro he won th Nigerian national championships, which isn't a top tier amatuer show, c'mon.
Saying he is the greatest bodybuilder is like saying some guy who never played in the NFL is the greatest football player.
^^ I saw Victor outside at Universal Studios after the 88 O prejudging. He was like Moses parting the Red Sea. There was the biggest crowd of people following Vic, at that time I had never seen anyone even close to him in mass. Victor got more attention than any of the competitors.I BELIEVE IT,,,
Even far after he ruined his build he still looked insane in the off-season, bodybuilding is the most mysterious thing on the planet.
Little brother? Victor was 370 lbs at 5'10'' while Dennis weighed in at 260 lbs at 5'8''.this is coleman with vic head
Mr Big! Huge and cut. Look at the striations on those quads! :osick pick,,freak...
Well, here are Vic's secrets.lot of holes in those stories on him,,,bbing urban legend...
"Victor Richards, better known as Vic Richards or Mr. Big is the most massive bodybuilder to ever live weighing in up to 370 lbs. at 5’10″ tall. Vic eats 8,000 to 12,000 calories per day and believes that adequate carbohydrates in his diet is the key to getting really big. Vic works out in the morning on an empty stomach, and after his workout he eats 16 oz. of unsweetened applesauce mixed with whey protein powder to feed his muscles. He takes an hour nap after his workout to rest and let his muscles repair. During a typical day Vic eats 3 pounds of brown rice, 25-30 chicken breasts, 75-120 egg whites, 10-12 cans of corn, and 5-6 cans of pineapple. Victor is a fan of being one’s best and not comparing one’s self to others."
Well, here are Vic's secrets.LMAO, bro, you get an oscar for this thread, this whole time I thought you were serious but turns out you were mocking him like the rest of us, heheheheh,lol my bad. ;D
"Victor Richards, better known as Vic Richards or Mr. Big is the most massive bodybuilder to ever live weighing in up to 370 lbs. at 5’10″ tall. Vic eats 8,000 to 12,000 calories per day and believes that adequate carbohydrates in his diet is the key to getting really big. Vic works out in the morning on an empty stomach, and after his workout he eats 16 oz. of unsweetened applesauce mixed with whey protein powder to feed his muscles. He takes an hour nap after his workout to rest and let his muscles repair. During a typical day Vic eats 3 pounds of brown rice, 25-30 chicken breasts, 75-120 egg whites, 10-12 cans of corn, and 5-6 cans of pineapple. Victor is a fan of being one’s best and not comparing one’s self to others."
LMAO, bro, you get an oscar for this thread, this whole time I thought you were serious but turns out you were mocking him like the rest of us, heheheheh,lol my bad. ;D;D,,,GOOD ONE ONETIME,,,,
i thought phil hill was freakier than vicHE WAS BUT NARROW COMPARED TO VI,,,QUAD WISE AS GREAT AS PHIL HILLS WERE VICS WERE IMMENSE,,,
i thought phil hill was freakier than vicOh fuck ya Phil was a freak
;D,,,GOOD ONE ONETIME,,,,Bro, you blew my cover ;D
lot of holes in those stories on him,,,bbing urban legend...Flex was even hyping him back then! What a crock of shit,Bodybuilding fans will believe anything!
Flex was even hyping him back then! What a crock of shit,Bodybuilding fans will believe anything!i remember they had tape measure around his quads and looked in disbelief ..think it was tom deters and vic stting there smiling smugly as the tape stretched...
i thought phil hill was freakier than vic
Vic would probly make Phil disappear if he ever walked in front of him on stage lol
And I thought the argument here was that he was one of the biggest bodybuilders ever, not the best looking. no matter how much people think he looked like shit guy was still fking huge. ahead of his time.
As if Heath has never beaten bodybuilders bigger than he.i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.
Richards won't step foot onstage. That would actually require him being ripped, which could spell trouble for him.
Besides, how can we get a good measure of how big he really his, relative to other bodybuilders, when he's almost always in off-season mode, while standing next to bodybuilders, fresh off a contest?
Richards gets the flak he does, because he constantly criticized IFBB pros, while not having the guts to step onstage against them. As I recall, there was little fear of Richards. On the contrary, a number of bodybuilders couldn't wait for him to compete, so they could beat him and expose him as being little more than hype.
i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.HANEY TOO...
i think you were talking about Dorian, Flex, and Dillett with your last statement.
LIKE SAYING HE'S CFL GREAT QUARTERBACK CUT IN THE NFL...RICHARDS WAS EVEN HYPED IN THE BATTLE OF 88 MR O VID,,,HE WAS HUGE BUT U COULD TELL DIETING WAS NOT HIS THING.LIKED BEING BIG AND THE WHAT'IF'TAG TO HIS NAME/BUILD...
Bro the bottom line is when kovacks turn pro he was over 300 on contest day, was 365 with abs, his arms were fucken huge and yes I have seen Victor R, Ronnie, Markus, Gunter and no one and I mean no one comes close to kovacks.kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...
Now imagine he never competed as a pro, the whole world would be saying he could have been Mr. Olympia, everyone would, the hype he was generating was outrageous. I remember reading an article in Musclemag saying Kovacks is going to the NOC and he will win that and will head to the Olympia at 340lb shredded and that he will make evryone look small. Go look at his pics of him at 365, he looked good, looked proportioned and was fairly lean, but brother contest day is a whole knew ball game, it is night and day. Plain and simple.
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...x2,,,,
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...Yes and no, he really did lose tremendous arm size from 10-12% bodyfat to 5% bodyfat, we are talking at least 2.5 inches here.
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
long torso..
if he competed he would have been dillett's level or a little less imo..
But look at his physique. :o
Dexter Jackson has a long torso and high lats. He won. Problem is that Nigerians have very thick skin. See Beyeke. Same thing. His physique his the perfect powerful physique. Dude could do a damn vacuum at his size. Had he been able to get into Coleman 98 condition, then he would have been a multiple Olympia winner but would have, could have, should have.No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.
No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.all good points on a bbing stage perspective,,street and gym he is immense,,,dex gets peeled dosen't affect him...
As for torso another feature that can not be compared to Dexter as Dexter's long torso is not as dramatic as Victors. So those feature would most certainly hurt Victor and as well as the thick skin as you mentioned, so overall even if he got peeled he would not do well on stage,
Magnificent physique.
No not where it counts, from the front high lats are not the problem, it is from the back where the problem lies because having high lats means you will have a weak lower back. Dexter has very low lat insertions from the back, it is only from the front that he has high lats which does not qualify as a bad thing in bodybuiding terms if his lower back has low insertions, what people fail to realize is the your lower back muscles are also your lats.
As for torso another feature that can not be compared to Dexter as Dexter's long torso is not as dramatic as Victors. So those feature would most certainly hurt Victor and as well as the thick skin as you mentioned, so overall even if he got peeled he would not do well on stage,
I can't see Ron being much bigger than Vic, i mean they were 2 different body types where Vic is extremely stocky with a long torso and Ronnie has a slighter frame with an X shape. Vic was built more like a block, didn't have the genetics required to satisfy the judges need for aesthetics. dude was without a doubt a freak.I seen Vic in gym in 1990, very impressive, especially lower half...but definately not in Colemans league, would be destroyed from the rear, had very high insertions
funny how people downplay him so much and try to put their thumb over him. anybody on here ever see the guy in person?? just for some clarification
I seen Vic in gym in 1990, very impressive, especially lower half...but definately not in Colemans league, would be destroyed from the rear, had very high insertions
kovacks arms ... not a fan of.. its shape and density that makes the arm...
not stretching a tabpe around it...againt kovacks frame his arms didnt look big... shape and insertions sucked... lacking peak.... etc
I seen Vic in gym in 1990, very impressive, especially lower half...but definately not in Colemans league, would be destroyed from the rear, had very high insertions
again, wasn't really talking about a bodybuilding contest I was just curious about how big he was and his claim of 320lbs+
Good points bro. But I don't think his lats are as high and torso as long as being portrayed. Dennis Wolf would be an example of that.Yes, Dennis is the poster boy for high lats for sure, as was Orville Burke back in the day.
370 lbs.LMAO, does he weigh himself with weights in his pockets, lol. ;D
'370lbs'? Give me a break..
High lats , long torso , short legsTHAT'S THE PIC USED DURING THE VICTORY 'SERIES'ADS FOR WEIDERS BREAKTHROUGH SUPPLEMENT LINE....
THAT'S THE PIC USED DURING THE VICTORY 'SERIES'ADS FOR WEIDERS BREAKTHROUGH SUPPLEMENT LINE....;D
High lats , long torso , short legs
Get the fuck out of here he looks awesome.
Get the fuck out of here he looks awesome.
Get the fuck out of here he looks awesome.No one is saying he does not look awesome, he is just not top 10 Olympia material 8)
No one is saying he does not look awesome, he is just not top 10 Olympia material 8)HE DID NOT ATTEMPT COMPETING,,,
Get the fuck out of here he looks awesome.
better chest and abs than coleman 8)FREAK FACTOR,,,SHOULD HAVE WENT TOE TO TOE WITH THE BEST..I GUESS BEING A 'WHAT IF' TAG WAS ENOUGH,,,SELLS MAGAZINES..
FREAK FACTOR,,,SHOULD HAVE WENT TOE TO TOE WITH THE BEST..I GUESS BEING A 'WHAT IF' TAG WAS ENOUGH,,,SELLS MAGAZINES..
370 lbs.Bullfuckingshit! Did you see what Ronnie looked like at 320? Richards no way he weighed more than 320!
Bullfuckingshit! Did you see what Ronnie looked like at 320? Richards no way he weighed more than 320!
HE DID NOT ATTEMPT COMPETING,,,Bro, you are only as good as how ripped you can get, everything else counts for nothing. I stage marshal over 100 shows and I always see someone who is jacked, I mean 20 inch arms, thick torso, enormous legs and he ends up in 5th place in the heavyweights and the middle weight takes the overall, yet this guy if only he lost another 15 pounds would smash everyone.
You're calling Vic a liar then.Look at that pic above, it says his weight on the pic (the weider pic), 275. Nasser competed at 275, was way more ripped then Vic in that pic and and a 315lb Nasser looked like a fat-ass, HTH
Look at that pic above, it says his weight on the pic (the weider pic), 275. Nasser competed at 275, was way more ripped then Vic in that pic and and a 315lb Nasser looked like a fat-ass, HTH