I love tren, i get great results the problem is i kinda plateaued at 100mg ed and had to start taking the dosage higher to carry on growing...which worked.... but i just feel like shit most of the time at 200+mg ed.... what I'm wondering is how does NPP compare and do the two work well together? Lets say I did 100mg tren ED which is a dosage i can tolerate the sides at....then ran 200mg npp ed along side it?
So you have never run more then 200mg ED of a 19 nor and you want to run 300mg ED of 19 nors, whilst running 200mg ED of NPP itself on your first time use? Or was that an example and I am being a dick? Seems like a rather high example Yes they would work well together depending on your goals. They would give a unique look thats for sure.
well my reasoning is, from what i have read, npp doesnt give you alot of the harsh sides that tren does... I want continual growth without all the mental problems i suffer with at higher dosages of tren... and with npp supposedly being not as potent as tren mg for mg I thought better go with 200 vs 100 to get the kind of strength gains and growth I'm after.
adding the 2 together will increase the mental side effects of it, atleast for me, it feels like adding the 2 together synergistically made the sides worse.test, d-bol, anadrol are good additions to tren. obviously, gh and insulin as well but that's a different area of discussion question: how are you defining your gains and determining if you are still "gaining"? if you are going off the scale and the weights on the bar, it might be a bit misleading because more steroids = more water retention in the muscle and also more strength - doesn't mean you aren't still growing simply because your body's weight and strength slowed down from the higher dosage.
Just putting this out there, there are other compounds then tren. If you need a break take a break, yes you will lose the tren look but you can still gain with other compounds. Is tren ideal? Yes, always but its not going to kill your muscle to spend 6 weeks on some NPP and abombs or something once or twice out of the year. Even GH15 says you will need a break from tren for your mental well being.
Yeah, this is good advice and probably what ill end up doing.... 12 weeks tren - 6-8 weeks npp (maybe alongside some other stuff), rinse repeat.... ive been on tren non stop for about 5 months now, I really need a break... changes my personality alot, fallen out with alot of close friends over stupid shit, i dont sleep well, feel lethargic most of the time, libido isnt great.... even with test prop @ 50mg daily...
deca is better for muscle growth than NPP. I recall a study showing longer ester with nandrolone the better, also take as big a shot as possible.
I've read exactly the opposite and that deca has no advantage over npp
what if you cant find NPP?!? I can find DECA everywhere! and hows deca/dbol?? have some of both sittin on the shelf, thought Id try it out cause its there!!
What's your opinion of t-bol? Running low prop tren and EQ. Wanna drop the EQ soon until I lean out some more. Ideally would love to add mast but thought about adding t-bol. Don't mean to hijack your thread either op
honestly I would stay away from deca all together, it's just not a safe steroid. It's been shown to be eleven times more damaging to the blood vessels as testosterone, as well as damaging human DNA, one of the only drugs I know of next to stanazolol that has this effect. Another wierd thing...I ran 900mg deca last cycle, and I shit you not my Jaw grew. Like a noticable half inch the actual fucking bone not the muscle, kind of scared me a bit, I'm done with that shit. Besides Eq is better...http://www.ergo-log.com/nandrolonemostefficient.html