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Title: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on January 31, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/monteburke/2013/01/29/have-we-reached-peak-football/

Serious question granted it ain`t gonna disappear but when you think of it, there is really no where to go but down.

P.S. to keep this own topic, this should make room for rapid expansion in the IFFB.


The Baltimore Ravens and the San Francisco 49ers will play in the Super Bowl this Sunday. It will be the most-viewed telecast of the year—and perhaps of all time—in the United States. Advertisers are paying $3.8 million for 30 seconds of airtime.

The NFL is a $9 billion dollar-a-year business with–league-wide–the most valuable franchises in sports. (All 32 NFL teams are listed in the Forbes list of the 50 Most Valuable Sports Teams in the World. No other sports league in the world can claim that distinction).
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Hulkotron on January 31, 2013, 07:43:58 AM
Not sure but I'm pretty sure the NFL can buttfuck the major networks whenever they feel like it.  Live sports are pretty much the last thing you need network television for these days.  All the NFL has to do is say "We'll pass on a new TV deal, we're just going to charge everyone $X to stream any game live onto whatever device they want."

I read some analysis that said something like 10% of the viewers who watch one or more games a year on TV would have to pay $100 a season for this service for the NFL to match their TV deal income.  I'd sign up for that in a second.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 31, 2013, 07:49:27 AM
Fox actually loses money on the deal with the NFL but they feel it is important to maintain legitimacy as a real network.  NBC felt like it lost it's lustre when they didn't renew a while ago and jumped in and overpaid for Sunday Night Football.

NFL had a huge surge over the last 5 years due to gambling but mostly to Fantasy Football.  The League keeps tweaking the games and soon they will be unwatchable.  But I don't see Baseball or NBA catching up for a long time.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on January 31, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
Fox actually loses money on the deal with the NFL but they feel it is important to maintain legitimacy as a real network.  NBC felt like it lost it's lustre when they didn't renew a while ago and jumped in and overpaid for Sunday Night Football.

NFL had a huge surge over the last 5 years due to gambling but mostly to Fantasy Football.  The League keeps tweaking the games and soon they will be unwatchable.  But I don't see Baseball or NBA catching up for a long time.
Lol if that don`t sound like a bubble I don`t know what is.

Yeah don`t get me wrong, it`s not just the fantasy stuff or any of that, it`s the simple fact that these days theirs nothing on television but sports.

I`ve always despised watching sports, but quite frankly theirs nothing else on tv these days.

I think sports is gonna be a main source of entertainment for a long time to come.

I would however really like to see a rugby league in North America, it`s like the nfl only not slow as shit.

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: BB on January 31, 2013, 08:02:39 AM
The NFL will always be the greatest and most lucrative sport in the US for the next few generations.  It might be at the top of it's game, but nothing is close it unseating it.

The main problem I see a fan is a softening of the game through rule changes and now accepted player norms because of things like health and safety, but that is understandable.

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 31, 2013, 08:07:46 AM
Lol if that don`t sound like a bubble I don`t know what is.

Yeah don`t get me wrong, it`s not just the fantasy stuff or any of that, it`s the simple fact that these days theirs nothing on television but sports.

I`ve always despised watching sports, but quite frankly theirs nothing else on tv these days.

I think sports is gonna be a main source of entertainment for a long time to come.

I would however really like to see a rugby league in North America, it`s like the nfl only not slow as shit.



Yes, Ratard...The NFL is going to enter a steep decline because you don't like it  ::)
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Mattyh7688 on January 31, 2013, 09:24:22 AM
LOL at a Canadian with Asbergers talking about American football and culture.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MB_722 on January 31, 2013, 09:27:12 AM
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Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: HTexan on January 31, 2013, 09:27:27 AM
No. /end thread
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on January 31, 2013, 09:41:01 AM
The NFL is an unbelievable brand. Because there isn't many games in a year, the NFL will be a force for decades to come.  As long as people sit around and drink boatloads of beer, the NFL is here to stay.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tbombz on January 31, 2013, 10:06:30 AM
with kaepernick and the 49ers on top - the sky is the limit  8)
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on January 31, 2013, 02:08:02 PM
Yes, Ratard...The NFL is going to enter a steep decline because you don't like it  ::)
I never said it was gonna fall off the face of the earth did I ::)

Football, will still be no1 for atleast the next half century and I never said it wasn`t.

However the days when the nfl`s tv contacts total more than the rest of all other sports combined may be number.

It`s not a complicated scenario, when you have nearly every dollar in television coming to you, it`s obvious it`s not sustainable.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on January 31, 2013, 03:49:22 PM
with kaepernick and the 49ers on top - the sky is the limit  8)
kaepernick is a gimmick, he will hit a bigger sophmore slump than cam newton
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tbombz on January 31, 2013, 06:34:25 PM
kaepernick is a gimmick, he will hit a bigger sophmore slump than cam newton
maybe, maybe not.  his performance in green bay three weeks ago was foreshadowing a new breed of quarterback though. tall, FAST, incredible arm strength, ball speed, and good accuracy.  that read option, along with a good back like gore, is enough to make any team of linebackers have a heart attack.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MB_722 on January 31, 2013, 07:22:56 PM
wasn't this topic raised on espn? go to espn and fuck yourself

this is a weak sauce SB week.

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 01, 2013, 04:22:52 AM
maybe, maybe not.  his performance in green bay three weeks ago was foreshadowing a new breed of quarterback though. tall, FAST, incredible arm strength, ball speed, and good accuracy.  that read option, along with a good back like gore, is enough to make any team of linebackers have a heart attack.
youre an idiot and buying into the NFL "analyst" bull shit they spew for ratings. One look at the hits RG3 took this past year should tell you that style of QB simply isnt sustainable. Let Kaepernick get hit one good time and get injured.

Its simply a gimmick that will last only as long as he can stay healthy, faster than the defenders and the defense doesnt figure out how to address it.

Cam Newton is bigger, faster and has a stronger arm than kaepernick and it only took one season for ppl to figure him out.

Like I said and you will see its a gimmick, you will be yelling for him to be benched mid next season.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: _bruce_ on February 01, 2013, 04:29:10 AM
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Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 01, 2013, 04:30:05 AM
Football has been around a long time and will continue to be until the end of the world.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tbombz on February 01, 2013, 04:40:41 AM
youre an idiot and buying into the NFL "analyst" bull shit they spew for ratings. One look at the hits RG3 took this past year should tell you that style of QB simply isnt sustainable. Let Kaepernick get hit one good time and get injured.

Its simply a gimmick that will last only as long as he can stay healthy, faster than the defenders and the defense doesnt figure out how to address it.

Cam Newton is bigger, faster and has a stronger arm than kaepernick and it only took one season for ppl to figure him out.

Like I said and you will see its a gimmick, you will be yelling for him to be benched mid next season to.
I don't watch espn or listen to any sports analyst.  I just watch sports.   IM glad you think kaepernick will be good so long as he is healthy
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Red Hook on February 01, 2013, 04:42:21 AM
Fox actually loses money on the deal with the NFL but they feel it is important to maintain legitimacy as a real network.  NBC felt like it lost it's lustre when they didn't renew a while ago and jumped in and overpaid for Sunday Night Football.

NFL had a huge surge over the last 5 years due to gambling but mostly to Fantasy Football.  The League keeps tweaking the games and soon they will be unwatchable.  But I don't see Baseball or NBA catching up for a long time.

link? you can't just throw around statements like this without providing proof
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: XFACTOR on February 01, 2013, 04:45:54 AM
youre an idiot and buying into the NFL "analyst" bull shit they spew for ratings. One look at the hits RG3 took this past year should tell you that style of QB simply isnt sustainable. Let Kaepernick get hit one good time and get injured.

Its simply a gimmick that will last only as long as he can stay healthy, faster than the defenders and the defense doesnt figure out how to address it.

Cam Newton is bigger, faster and has a stronger arm than kaepernick and it only took one season for ppl to figure him out.

Like I said and you will see its a gimmick, you will be yelling for him to be benched mid next season.


I do agree with this right up until you mentioned Cam. Defenses definitely haven't figured him out as he had a better year than last year. He's a machine.  The RG example is a good one though.



Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 01, 2013, 04:47:44 AM

I do agree with this right up until you mentioned Cam. Defenses definitely haven't figured him out as he had a better year than last year. He's a machine.  The RG example is a good one though.




Spot on go PANTHERS!
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: G_Thang on February 01, 2013, 04:55:58 AM
youre an idiot and buying into the NFL "analyst" bull shit they spew for ratings. One look at the hits RG3 took this past year should tell you that style of QB simply isnt sustainable. Let Kaepernick get hit one good time and get injured.

Its simply a gimmick that will last only as long as he can stay healthy, faster than the defenders and the defense doesnt figure out how to address it.

Cam Newton is bigger, faster and has a stronger arm than kaepernick and it only took one season for ppl to figure him out.

Like I said and you will see its a gimmick, you will be yelling for him to be benched mid next season.

RG will be fine, if he slides or plays the game similar to Wilson.  Hopefully, two knee surgeries will convince him.  He can make the throws from the pocket, if necessary.

as noted, kaepernick played on a fast surface last week, and had to pass his way out the game, so he proved he doesn't need to run.  He'll have to pass his way out this game sunday too.  

guys like mcnabb and cunningham did well also, eventhough they were classified as running QBs.  

out of the group, RG is the one, who has to learn feet first.

all these guys are getting clumped together because RG is a bit wreckless.  Wilson understands because he knows his 5'11" frame can't take the pounding, so he plays the game a bit like Brees/Flutie.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: Parker on February 01, 2013, 05:13:31 AM
youre an idiot and buying into the NFL "analyst" bull shit they spew for ratings. One look at the hits RG3 took this past year should tell you that style of QB simply isnt sustainable. Let Kaepernick get hit one good time and get injured.

Its simply a gimmick that will last only as long as he can stay healthy, faster than the defenders and the defense doesnt figure out how to address it.

Cam Newton is bigger, faster and has a stronger arm than kaepernick and it only took one season for ppl to figure him out.

Like I said and you will see its a gimmick, you will be yelling for him to be benched mid next season.
evolution, my friend...
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: arce1988 on February 01, 2013, 01:23:37 PM
 Evo
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on February 01, 2013, 01:33:22 PM
RAvens will put 9 in the box and make Kaepernick beat them with his arm. Should be a real interesting game.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on February 01, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
Football has been around a long time and will continue to be until the end of the world.

Glad to see that you've brought your point of view, it's a great contribution.  ::)


I said it's peaking, attendance has appeared to peek 5 years ago, and now each team gets 200 mill a year in just tv contracts, where do you set the limit on how far the league can go if not here?
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 02, 2013, 07:22:45 PM
I don't watch espn or listen to any sports analyst.  I just watch sports.   IM glad you think kaepernick will be good so long as he is healthy
LOL youre boys going down tomorrow and mark my words drizzle youll be yelling for his ass to be benched next season
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 02, 2013, 07:24:58 PM

I do agree with this right up until you mentioned Cam. Defenses definitely haven't figured him out as he had a better year than last year. He's a machine.  The RG example is a good one though.
I agree he is a beast but the defenses definitely had a better handle on him this year over last year.

I was at the game they played the Texans at last year and that guy is a fucking moose. He is the tallest guy in the huddle, I think I mistook him for a lineman more than once.

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: JBGRAY on February 02, 2013, 07:27:17 PM
And what other sport would supplant it?  Baseball is in actual serious decline and considered an old person's sport.  Hockey is too regional, basketball too thuggish and black, and soccer is lame. 
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 02, 2013, 07:29:11 PM
evolution, my friend...
gimmicks buddy, problem these guys will have is staying healthy and aging. The supply of fast defenders is endless so unless you want to use a rookie QB every year these guys better learn from tom brady, mannings, brees etc.

Those are the types of QB's that will always be around these guys are only good so long as they are faster, can stay healthy and the defense doesnt figure them out.

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 02, 2013, 07:29:46 PM
And what other sport would supplant it?  Baseball is in actual serious decline and considered an old person's sport.  Hockey is too regional, basketball too thuggish and black, and soccer is lame. 
curling?

I could watch that shit all day....
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MB_722 on February 02, 2013, 10:24:58 PM
Soccer is prob going to benefit the most :D suckers. I like soccer.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: illwill on February 02, 2013, 10:37:06 PM
Lol Kaepernick isn't going anywhere. He's far from just being a running qb. He can beat you with his arm. He can beat with his kill plays at the line of scrimmage. Dude has no flinch in him ala Brett Farve

He won't be benched next year and his team is set up for many superbowl runs in the years to come. Top to bottom that organization is loaded.  Owner. Coaching staff. Players. 13 draft picks next year.

Cam don't have the mental make up this Kap kid does.



Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tbombz on February 03, 2013, 12:11:16 AM
LOL youre boys going down tomorrow and mark my words drizzle youll be yelling for his ass to be benched next season
we will see. if he does play like shit, we still got alex smith on the roster and can keep him for next year. his passer rating was the best in the league before he got that concussion which allowed kaepernick to start.

but, i think kaepernick is going to do just fine. when he runs the ball he is faster than the d line and line backers and bigger than the secondary.  when he throws, he has one of the strongest arms in the entire league. he can put more speed on a football than anybody.  the offensive line is one of the best in the league, he has a hallf of fame running back behind him, and a hall of fame wide reciever to pass to.  plus crabtree and vernon davis who are both major studs.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 03, 2013, 04:38:46 AM
The NFL is an unbelievable brand. Because there isn't many games in a year, the NFL will be a force for decades to come.  As long as people sit around and drink boatloads of beer, the NFL is here to stay.

This is a key thing. It's only on for a certain time. They arn't overdoing it. If they ran it year round people would get bored or not care but because it's only like half the year, it's a big deal all the time.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: The Grim Lifter on February 03, 2013, 04:40:15 AM
Lol if that don`t sound like a bubble I don`t know what is.

Yeah don`t get me wrong, it`s not just the fantasy stuff or any of that, it`s the simple fact that these days theirs nothing on television but sports.

I`ve always despised watching sports, but quite frankly theirs nothing else on tv these days.

I think sports is gonna be a main source of entertainment for a long time to come.

I would however really like to see a rugby league in North America, it`s like the nfl only not slow as shit.



Only sport that could destroy the NFL and make it look average but i am sure the NFL has things in place to stop it.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: syntaxmachine on February 03, 2013, 06:00:16 AM
maybe, maybe not.  his performance in green bay three weeks ago was foreshadowing a new breed of quarterback though. tall, FAST, incredible arm strength, ball speed, and good accuracy.  that read option, along with a good back like gore, is enough to make any team of linebackers have a heart attack.

I highly suspect your pants were down when you typed this.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2013, 10:00:36 AM
Lol Kaepernick isn't going anywhere. He's far from just being a running qb. He can beat you with his arm. He can beat with his kill plays at the line of scrimmage. Dude has no flinch in him ala Brett Farve

He won't be benched next year and his team is set up for many superbowl runs in the years to come. Top to bottom that organization is loaded.  Owner. Coaching staff. Players. 13 draft picks next year.

Cam don't have the mental make up this Kap kid does.
LOL this kid has made a handful of good throws and you morons are already saying he can beat you with his arm...::)

goodness gracious you idiots drink the kool aid way to fast.

The organization is set up great and that doesnt include Kaepernick. You really think he would have been the QB he has without gore, without the receiving core without the defense?

he isnt even back up quality on the majority of the NFL teams.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: G_Thang on February 03, 2013, 10:02:54 AM


Cam don't have the mental make up this Kap kid does.





This.  Cam is one incomplete pass from being the next Jamarcus russell
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2013, 10:07:46 AM
we will see. if he does play like shit, we still got alex smith on the roster and can keep him for next year. his passer rating was the best in the league before he got that concussion which allowed kaepernick to start.

but, i think kaepernick is going to do just fine. when he runs the ball he is faster than the d line and line backers and bigger than the secondary.  when he throws, he has one of the strongest arms in the entire league. he can put more speed on a football than anybody.  the offensive line is one of the best in the league, he has a hallf of fame running back behind him, and a hall of fame wide reciever to pass to.  plus crabtree and vernon davis who are both major studs.

I agree I would have had alex smith starting as soon as he was healthy. Now you have a decent qb sitting on the bench put off by the whole situation while a gimmick is out there starting. When the gimmick loses its shine and you have to go back to the guy who while not a great qb but decent he is going to stay?

You really think that in the open field kaepernick is going to intimidate an ed reed or a Bernard Pollard?

I hope he gets free today with pollard bearing down on him. Lol you remember that hit he put on the Patriots running back that knocked him out 2 weeks ago?

LOL look im not putting down the 49ers they are a great team with all pro talent all over the place. What I am saying is Kaepernick isnt going to be the new style of QB, running qb's are gimmicks. Its great to have a qb that can scramble for 15-20 yards every now and again but to rely on a qb's legs just isnt sustainable.
how do you think kaepernick is going to react to being hit like that?
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2013, 10:11:02 AM
This.  Cam is one incomplete pass from being the next Jamarcus russell
Cam also hasnt had an all pro running back, an all pro receiving core and an all pro defense on his team either.

Kaepernick wouldnt even be the back up on the Panthers. Cam is bigger, stronger and faster than Kaepernick.

I dont think Cam is a good qb either but his potential is a shit ton better than kaepernicks.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: jpm101 on February 03, 2013, 10:11:59 AM
Could ask the same question: is college football peaking out?  No, to both either question.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2013, 10:16:07 AM
Could ask the same question: is college football peaking out?  No, to both either question.
college football has made a few changes in terms of conferences and will be going to a playoff system here in the next few seasons.

Ive never been a big football fan but have started watching more of it and will probably watch more next season too.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on February 03, 2013, 05:03:24 PM
And what other sport would supplant it?  Baseball is in actual serious decline and considered an old person's sport.  Hockey is too regional, basketball too thuggish and black, and soccer is lame. 
No one is saying it has to be replaced, there is plenty of room for other leagues and sports, the false ownership of all sporting as we know it has to go. 

Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: tonymctones on February 03, 2013, 08:33:35 PM
Bump...you morons will be yelling for a new QB come mid next season especially after that little fairy gets put on his ass.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on February 04, 2013, 06:39:02 AM
Do you think the power outage might of been a sign, like seriously how embarrassing for a multi billion dollar sport.
Title: Re: Is the NFL peaking out?
Post by: MikMaq on February 08, 2013, 08:17:53 AM
It`s been proven totally peaked