Author Topic: How many people believe that Jeff Rodriguez is natural? (Read 27650 times)

kyomu · « **on:** October 03, 2009, 11:34:46 AM »

Defenition:Natural means he dont use banned substance.

Whats your opinion?

Mars · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:35:29 AM »

hes quite small and short so maybe he is.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:37:54 AM »

he uses, just a different stack from bigger guys

emn1964 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:41:57 AM »

pics from recent Team Universe?

kyomu · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:42:39 AM »

Quote from: emn1964 on October 03, 2009, 11:41:57 AM

pics from recent Team Universe?

Yes.

emn1964 · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:45:13 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 11:42:39 AM

Yes.

kind of hard to tell, he is not that big. well conditioned. but his muscle does seem to have a different quality to it from the true naturals I know. maybe yes, maybe no.

kyomu · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:46:31 AM »

Quote from: emn1964 on October 03, 2009, 11:45:13 AM

kind of hard to tell, he is not that big. well conditioned. but his muscle does seem to have a different quality to it from the true naturals I know. maybe yes, maybe no.

He claimed himself as a natural no?

MAXX · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:47:17 AM »

dont know for sure but he has never done a drug test that i know

emn1964 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:48:10 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 11:46:31 AM

He claimed himself as a natural no?

pretty sure he did. to compete in team univ. you must be "natural" according to their rules. but I'm not certain of their rules

kyomu · « **Reply #9 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:50:43 AM »

Quote from: emn1964 on October 03, 2009, 11:48:10 AM

pretty sure he did. to compete in team univ. you must be "natural" according to their rules. but I'm not certain of their rules

Thats what i am saying.
Doping controle of federations(any) are very suspicious and politics.
Only way is he goes to the lab and show some certificates isnt it?

emn1964 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 03, 2009, 11:56:44 AM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 11:50:43 AM

Thats what i am saying.
Doping controle of federations(any) are very suspicious and politics.
Only way is he goes to the lab and show some certificates isnt it?

again, depends on their definition of "natural" It may mean natural only on the day of the show. it may mean natural for life or for 4 years. depends on definition. as for testing, a urine or blood test will only tell you if the competitor currently has drugs in system, not whether they used them in past (after body completely metabolizes them). So, you can use them and train but test clean on day of show.

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #11 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:00:15 PM »

He is as natural as you kyomu

anyone not realizing he is on gear is clueless when it comes to bodybuilding

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #12 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:05:58 PM »

As natural as this

kyomu · « **Reply #13 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:07:12 PM »

Quote from: emn1964 on October 03, 2009, 11:56:44 AM

again, depends on their definition of "natural" It may mean natural only on the day of the show. it may mean natural for life or for 4 years. depends on definition. as for testing, a urine or blood test will only tell you if the competitor currently has drugs in system, not whether they used them in past (after body completely metabolizes them). So, you can use them and train but test clean on day of show.

Ok. I understand you.
Then do you think he is gonna pass the test that Team Universe day(Ok,without noticing him)?

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #14 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:08:54 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 12:07:12 PM

Ok. I understand you.
Then do you think he is gonna pass the test that Team Universe day(Ok,without noticing him)?

do they even test at Team Universe?

if you know how to use gear you know how to beat a test, just know when you need to go off certain stuff in time

kyomu · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:25:14 PM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on October 03, 2009, 12:08:54 PM

do they even test at Team Universe?

if you know how to use gear you know how to beat a test, just know when you need to go off certain stuff in time

Depends on the test level also.
If IOC level, they can trace 10yrs (According to Milos).

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:28:25 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 12:25:14 PM

Depends on the test level also.
If IOC level, they can trace 10yrs (According to Milos).

and how many people do they test with such expensive methods, certainly not bodybuilding, ive competed in contests that were WADA/IOC tested, just same old piss in a cup test, everyone passed, i doubt they even sent the piss to the labs, cos everyones piss was dirty anyway

ThaRealist · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:31:15 PM »

Most state level natural competitions have even stopped, because most of the guys juice all year long and know how to beat the tests(which isn't that difficult).

Tapeworm · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:38:48 PM »

No, but he always looks great. All the drugs in the world wouldn't make me look that good.

efanhowz · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:43:55 PM »

its possible. i saw him in person and his proportions are just crazy. small waist and full muscles. hes not massive, but very conditioned. impressive none the less. you dont get muscle "shape" like that form gear. epic genetics

INSOMNIA · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:45:04 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on October 03, 2009, 11:34:46 AM

Defenition:Natural means he dont use banned substance.

Whats your opinion?

Yes, natural.

johnnynoname · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:46:40 PM »

i think JROD is natural

I also think he probably lives an INCREDIBLY boring life due to him being natural cuz that is a guy who CAN'T miss a meal

Meso_z · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2009, 12:48:19 PM »

Quote from: sevastase on October 03, 2009, 12:00:15 PM

He is as natural as you kyomu

anyone not realizing he is on gear is clueless when it comes to bodybuilding

agree..

Cleanest Natural · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:00:45 PM »

kyomu , honest question bro :

are you THAT fucking stupid and clueless or are you one of the biggest liars/pretenders on getbig ?

Overload · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2009, 02:09:39 PM »

Not even close to natural.

I would say he relies on GH/Slin and other exotic peptides IMO.