i started with test-prop. if i had to do it over again with what i know now i would have never touched test and just did tren and d-bol
ditto. First year of drug use I used nothing but test, believing the whole 'test is best' that is regurgitated by guys who make out like they know their shit on steroid forums and being as I was a total n00b with hormones, i just trusted their advice. Gains were 'ok' but nothing spectacular, started thinking perhaps my gear was underdosed and ramped up my injections to some pretty freaking high dosages and all that happened was worse acne and some hair loss... proceeded to try other UGL's but still wasnt getting kinda results i hoped for....
Wasnt till i added tren E or A into mix did i really start to get rapidly stronger and thus bigger all over.... I feel like complete shit alot of the time when im on it and definately have some horrible insomnia but seeing the changes in my body weekly makes it all worth it.
I wonder what the point of dimnishing returns is with tren... i get nothing extra going over 500mg test weekly...out of curiousity the last few days i ramped up my tren A dosage to 250mg ED and was lifting my previous working weights like they were warm up sets, had to add a fair chunk of iron to each and every lift i did that day to actually stress the muscles. Ive heard stories of guys doing 700mg a day making insane strenght and size gains very rapidly then backing of to more moderate dosages and keeping alot of what they gained.... thats nearly an vial a day.... some serious g4p.