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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Wiggs on December 03, 2012, 11:09:36 PM
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hyperbolic chamber? is that a chamber in which a distinguished university graduate, such as yourself (or your beloved queen vissy) tells wildly exaggerated stories (about giants, for instance)?
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hyperbolic chamber? is that a chamber in which a distinguished university graduate, such as yourself (or your beloved queen vissy) tells wildly exaggerated stories (about giants, for instance)?
Wrong negro dipshit.
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I've heard that it would be much more beneficial to someone like a distance runner, where energy systems used are more aerobic vs. traditional anaerobic exercises used by Bodybuilders. Kind of the same thing with EPO doping.
Maybe someone has a better answer but I remember asking an old Biochemistry Prof who was also a bodybuilder this question and this was what I remember.
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Of course. Because of their extreme athleticism and the injuries that go.along with it. Hahahahahaha!
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It would benefical in the increased rate it helps heal injuries and the increased oxygen in the muscles to name a few.
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Of course. Because of their extreme athleticism and the injuries that go.along with it. Hahahahahaha!
Yes Coach, we can all laugh,its bodybuilding ha,ha. Theres no doubt anyone let alone athletes would benefit. My question is how much better can it make a bodybuilder directly or indirectly and in what ways? Injuries alone would be huge and with being enhanced and superoxygenated, workouts would be better, higher and higher energy.
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Wrong negro dipshit.
post of the year.... hahahah I can't stop laughing!
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Of course. Because of their extreme athleticism and the injuries that go.along with it. Hahahahahaha!
haha... you're a fucking jerk.
self hating douche bag
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hyperbolic chamber? is that a chamber in which a distinguished university graduate, such as yourself (or your beloved queen vissy) tells wildly exaggerated stories (about giants, for instance)?
did the chubby chocolate face misspell it at first?
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haha... you're a fucking jerk.
self hating douche bag
I speak from experience. Bodybuilding and athletics. I know what I say.
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did the chubby chocolate face misspell it at first?
of course he did - then tintin came along and very subtly corrected it.
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If you are a NPC national level or IFBB bodybuilder. It should certainly be apart of the arsenal ideally year around, but at least for the bulking and precontest phase of a show. No doubt about it. Too many benefits not do it. Dont know the cost of the therapy but Phil, Kai, Jay, guys on that level should look into it., they have the cash flow.
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Turns out you can buy one for $5-6k.. not bad at all.. If I had Jay Cutler money I would buy it.. but I have Dan Hill money.
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Btw 240, when jay had his arm "injury" which left the bruise, depending on when it happened, had he used the chamber it could have cleared that bruise within hours.
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If you are a NPC national level or IFBB bodybuilder. It should certainly be apart of the arsenal ideally year around, but at least for the bulking and precontest phase of a show. No doubt about it. Too many benefits not do it. Dont know the cost of the therapy but Phil, Kai, Jay, guys on that level should look into it., they have the cash flow.
Seriously wiggs, think about this. What is hyperbaric used for? 95% of bodybuilders.don't train hard enough to break a sweat let alone anything else.
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Turns out you can buy one for $5-6k.. not bad at all.. If I had Jay Cutler money I would buy it.. but I have Dan Hill money.
Yes, but at least not Dan Hill body. Haha
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Btw 240, when jay had his arm "injury" which left the bruise, depending on when it happened, had he used the chamber it could have cleared that bruise within hours.
so it is a hyperbolic chamber, after all
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Yes, but at least not Dan Hill body. Haha
blessing of the year :D
Here are some athletes who use them supposedly :
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BASEBALL
Brian Jordan, Atlanta Braves
John Smoltz, Atlanta Braves
Paul Byrd, Boston Red Sox
J.D. Drew, Boston Red Sox
Ryan Braun, Milwaukee Brewers, MVP
Carlos Gomez, Milwaukee Brewers
Shaun Marcum, Milwaukee Brewers
Derek Jeter, New York Yankees
Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies
Ryan Klesco, San Diego Padres
BASKETBALL
Wilson Chandler, Denver Nuggets
Charlie Ward, Houston Rockets, '93 Heisman Trophy Winner
Nick Anderson, Memphis Grizzlies
Kendall Gill, Milwaukee Bucks
Tyreke Evans, Sacramento Kings
Sitapha Savané, CB Gran Canaria (Spain)
BICYCLING
Lance Armstrong, Tour de France Winner
Michael Freiberg, Fly V Australia
BODYBUILDING
Roc Shabazz, Professional Bodybuilder
Tammy Leady, Women's Fitness Pro
BOXING
Evander Holyfield
Sergio Martinez
FOOTBALL
Eric Beverly, Atlanta Falcons
Keion Carpenter, Atlanta Falcons
Ed Hartwell, Atlanta Falcons
Michael Vick, Atlanta Falcons
Todd Weiner, Atlanta Falcons
Bryan Scott, Buffalo Bills
Jon Corto, Buffalo Bills
Andra Davis, Buffalo Bills
Drayton Florence, Buffalo Bills
Paul Poslusny, Buffalo Bills
Dan Morgan, Carolina Panthers
Bryan Robinson, Cincinnati Bengals
Kenny Watson, Cincinnati Bengals
Madieu Williams, Cincinnati Bengals
Kenyon Coleman, Cleveland Browns
Montario Hardesty, Cleveland Browns
Reggie Hodges, Cleveland Browns
Mohamed Massaquoi, Cleveland Browns
Benjamin Watson, Cleveland Browns
Kevin Burnett, Dallas Cowboys
Terrell Owens, Dallas Cowboys
Tim Tebow, Denver Broncos
Kalimba Edwards, Detroit Lions
Brian Cushing, Houston Texans
Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis Colts
Maurice Jones-Drew, Jacksonville Jaguars
Dexter McCleon, Kansas City Chiefs
Zach Thomas, Kansas City Chiefs
Marques Colston, New Orleans Saints
Travis Beckum, New York Giants
Michael Boley, New York Giants
Plaxico Burress, New York Giants
Jonathan Goff, New York Giants
Hakeem Nicks, New York Giants
Jeremy Shockey, New York Giants
Justin Tuck, New York Giants
Steve Weatherford, New York Giants
Gibril Wilson, New York Giants
Nick Folk, New York Jets
Santonio Holmes, New York Jets
Bill Flowers, Ole Miss
Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia Eagles
Hines Ward, Pittsburg Steelers
Verron Hayes, Pittsburgh Steelers
Craig Davis, San Diego Chargers
Travis Hall, San Francisco 49ers
Tony Parrish, San Francisco 49ers
Jamie Winborn, San Francisco 49ers
Braylon Edwards, Seattle Seahawks
Russell Okung, Seattle Seahawks
Patrick Kerney, Seattle Seahawks
Jerome Pathon, Seattle Seahawks
Donnie Avery, St. Louis Rams
Jimmy Farris, Washington Redskins
Rod Gardner, Washington Redskins
DeAngelo Hall, Washington Redskins
Santana Moss, Washington Redskins
Shawn Springs, Washington Redskins
Gilbert Arenas, Washington Wizards
Derrick Tinsley, University of Tennessee
Karon Riley, Former Atlanta Falcon
Jimmy Brumbaugh, Former GA Force player
Michael Lawson, Former GA Force player
Trace Armstrong, Former NFL Player
Zach Thomas, Former NFL Player
Bill Romanowski, Former NFL Player
GOLF
Tiger Woods
HOCKEY
Garnet Exelby, Atlanta Thrashers
Ian Lapierre, Philadelphia Flyers
Mario Lemieux, Pittsburgh Penguins
Yannick Tremblay, Former Atlanta Thrasher
MIXED MARTIAL ARTS
Thiago "Pitbull" Alves
Vitor Belfort
Urijah Faber
John Howard
Sean Loeffler
Cody Williams
OFF ROAD MOTORCYCLE RACING
Ben Grabham, Motorex KTM (Australia)
POWERLIFTING
Scot Mendelson, World's Strongest Man
RACING
John Sipple, Palmer Chiropractic
SKATEBOARDING
Paul (P-Rod) Rodriguez, Jr.
TRACK
Sharon Seagrave, Olympic Runner
Karen Shinkins, Olympic Runner
TRIATHLON
Damon Barnett
COACHES:
FOOTBALL
Bobby Lankford, U. of Georgia Coach, former NFL Coach
Tim Adams, Former Oakland Raiders Coach Robert Lyles, Former GA Force Coach
HOCKEY
Brad McCrimmon, Atlanta Thrashers Coach, former NHL Player
Greg Stathis, Georgia Tech Ice Hockey Coach
SOCCER
Iggy Moleka, Atlanta Silverbacks Coach
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Btw 240, when jay had his arm "injury" which left the bruise, depending on when it happened, had he used the chamber it could have cleared that bruise within hours.
Maybe you should stick your head in one for about six months then
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Seriously wiggs, think about this. What is hyperbaric used for? 95% of bodybuilders.don't train hard enough to break a sweat let alone anything else.
I can only speak to guys Ive seen train in the past. Jay, Kai, Ronnie and all the clips and videos ive seen from the 90s and 00s show that training would certainly benefit from it. Theres no doubt about it.
Ill write the benefits a third time for you. Injuries, including bruises, the benefit of the extra blood volume from the peds plus enriching that extra blood with oxygen would certainly be beneficial.
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current bodybuilders and athletes are of different molds.. the body composition of a bodybuilder would obviously demand a higher volume of tissue oxygenation as opposed to the athlete.. further, his current drug regimen could also expose his pos/neg response to a much higher atmospheric pressure of oxygen.. Rem.. to those knowledgable in their biochem... this technology was theoretically established to compete w/ hemoglobin's sudden uptake of CO instead of 02.due to whatever cause of poisoning..... this is def a dangerous game that these so called bodybuilders are playing..esp if they enjoy being under eventual metabolic acidosis on top of having a cascade of other numerous complications that inevitably will follow.... the athlete has better assimilated his production of energy (ATP) via aerobic conditions.. this shall play a key role in their physiological responses
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This is my mark I leave to bodybuild. Hyperbolic chmbers. Mutate bodybuild to meta-mutant thrpu level 5 mutation previous unseen.
Wigfela good pupil.
GH15 approved
Lion of Judah
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Lay off the hyperbolic chamber wiggs.
eat a watermelon, rob a liquor store and impregnate a fat white girl and your pigmentation will come back
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current bodybuilders and athletes are of different molds.. the body composition of a bodybuilder would obviously demand a higher volume of tissue oxygenation as opposed to the athlete.. further, his current drug regimen could also expose his pos/neg response to a much higher atmospheric pressure of oxygen.. Rem.. to those knowledgable in their biochem... this technology was theoretically established to compete w/ hemoglobin's sudden uptake of CO instead of 02.due to whatever cause of poisoning..... this is def a dangerous game that these so called bodybuilders are playing..esp if they enjoy being under eventual metabolic acidosis on top of having a cascade of other numerous complications that inevitably will follow.... the athlete has better assimilated his production of energy (ATP) via aerobic conditions.. this shall play a key role in their physiological responses
Although, I know bodybuilder are the most doped up of the bunch, professional athletes are dirty also. I believe a safe and very beneficial program could be created knowing what all these guys are on. No doubt.
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increased intracellular exposure to elevated atmospheric pressure of oxygen will always be relative to the individual .. to say "safe" and increased oxygenation to a juiced athlete is not really applicable.. 02 regulation within the body has it's systematic effects w/ regards to cardiovascular and respiratory systems(everything is interconnected)... the body's response to such a drastic change of pressure cannot be easily determined just coz one knows his drug protocol... the body's adaptive response may be too spontaneous and much too late for the individual to recover. ie/ sudden cardiac arrest, stroke, endless possibilities.. this is a much more scary technique than what the sport's world is making it out to be.. more needs to be researched
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increased intracellular exposure to elevated atmospheric pressure of oxygen will always be relative to the individual .. to say "safe" and increased oxygenation to a juiced athlete is not really applicable.. 02 regulation within the body has it's systematic effects w/ regards to cardiovascular and respiratory systems(everything is interconnected)... the body's response to such a drastic change of pressure cannot be easily determined just coz one knows his drug protocol... the body's adaptive response may be too spontaneous and much too late for the individual to recover. ie/ sudden cardiac arrest, stroke, endless possibilities.. this is a much more scary technique than what the sport's world is making it out to be.. more needs to be researched
So you don't agree with using it period?
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there is much left to be said of its universal appeal at this point in time... i'll admit to not have a full understanding behind the whole mechanism of this technology(just have a rough idea of its concepts).. BUT from a medical standpoint --> the numerous oxygen-related disorders that abruptly change the landscape of a healthy individual into one that is induced into a coma, hypovolemic shock, cardiac arrest, --> the list is endless.. the body's response is endless... esp w/ their new predisposition due to certain drug profiles running currently in their system...ie/ certain drugs(steroids) already facilitate a faster/more readily release of oxygen (via hemoglobin) to peripheral tissues.. additive effects relative to each individual is not easily predictable.. i see too much danger--esp w the current policies against PEDS... an athlete not speaking the truth of his usage (which is more likely than not) can seriously put himself/herself in harm's way
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Steve Namat uses it to heal the callouses on his right hand
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Wiggs just wants to "hot-box" one of these therapeutic chambers.
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Hyperbaric = hyperbalony ::)
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the body's adaptive response may be too spontaneous and much too late for the individual to recover. ie/ sudden cardiac arrest, stroke, endless possibilities.. this is a much more scary technique than what the sport's world is making it out to be.. more needs to be researched
Please explain in detail and with proof (literature based proof from pubmed, NCBI or New England Journal of Medicine), how you arrived at such conclusions (hyperbaric chamber therapy induced sudden cardiac arrest and/or stroke).
If anything, all published studies suggest that hyperbaric chambers are actually used to aid in the recovery of victims from both strokes and sudden cardiac arrest who have been resuscitated.
I'm curious what led you to these conclusions,
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Steve Namat uses it to heal the callouses on his right hand
;D ;D ;D
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Hyperbaric = hyperbalony ::)
Explain then doc.
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No one has denied it wouldn't work. Danny-boy threw out a shitload of risks, although I don't know if there's any science backing any of it especially with bodybuilders.
I know it would work and work very well to the point where bodybuilders would question why they never did it before.
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Explain then doc.
In short, if a patient has a non-healing wound on their foot, ankle or wherever secondary to a circulatory issue for example.
This wound will not heal if there is no blood supply, hyperbarics or not, sadly.
Ins. companies do reimburse well for this treatment and that is the reason they exist, no studies have shown a real use for them.
If a patent has had a CVA and is paralyzed, that part of the brain is dead, hyperbarics or not etc...
I wish i was wrong but...
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They should
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ttt
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Please explain in detail and with proof (literature based proof from pubmed, NCBI or New England Journal of Medicine), how you arrived at such conclusions (hyperbaric chamber therapy induced sudden cardiac arrest and/or stroke).
If anything, all published studies suggest that hyperbaric chambers are actually used to aid in the recovery of victims from both strokes and sudden cardiac arrest who have been resuscitated.
I'm curious what led you to these conclusions,
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As I have stated, I am no expert in the complete mechanism of hyperbaric tech other than that it increases atmospheric pressure of pure oxygen... Normally used for carbon monoxide poisoining... I was going by the assumption that these current bodbuilders are abusing numerous performance drugs other than steroids (ie/ blood thinners, diuretics, thyroid hormones, etc.). Here, the dispersion of of prior drug abuse(w varied drug protocol) may lead each individual to being more susceptible to producing Oxygen radicals(just as an example-toxic to body) Increased atmospheric pressure on individual already experiencing hypertension=thus leading to higher cardio output... I was simply giving my understanding of hypothetical possibilitieswhere one cannot automatically deem this practice safe on universal grounds right now... Def suggest rigorous screening of athlete prior
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this machine will put 90 pounds on a person
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this machine will put 90 pounds on a person
I knew I was on to something and I was right. It's all about the hyberbaric chamber.