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I know that alot of doctors been working under big pharma and prescribed pain killers ( for too long ) and got thousands of people hooked on them.
I know that the DSM did put some minor issues that can be treated by themself as mental health troubles and got thousands of kids hooked on meds they don't even need. I know that DSM considere a boy mental if he don't want to focus on a silly subject but it's perfectly normal if he thinks he is a girl.
There's no study about those matters I'm gonna trust because I know there's hundreds of doctors and scientists working for the Pfizer, Moderna... and are ready to write anything that suit their masters.
They said the mask will stop the spreading and it didn't, then the vaxx will stop it and it didn't. Then they said two jabs is considered fully vaccinated and now they don't. The spreading kept going and they moved to the narrative : The vaxx will keep you out of the hospital but there's alot of vaxxed in there.
I can go for at least 20 reasons why people don't trust the vaxx and every step about this subject who doesn't seem to follow any logical pattern.
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I know that alot of doctors been working under big pharma and prescribed pain killers ( for too long ) and got thousands of people hooked on them.
I know that the DSM did put some minor issues that can be treated by themself as mental health troubles and got thousands of kids hooked on meds they don't even need. I know that DSM considere a boy mental if he don't want to focus on a silly subject but it's perfectly normal if he thinks he is a girl.
There's no study about those matters I'm gonna trust because I know there's hundreds of doctors and scientists working for the Pfizer, Moderna... and are ready to write anything that suit their masters.
They said the mask will stop the spreading and it didn't, then the vaxx will stop it and it didn't. Then they said two jabs is considered fully vaccinated and now they don't. The spreading kept going and they moved to the narrative : The vaxx will keep you out of the hospital but there's alot of vaxxed in there.
I can go for at least 20 reasons why people don't trust the vaxx and every step about this subject who doesn't seem to follow any logical pattern.
Two years in they find this out😂. They have the credibility of a three card monte dealer😂
CDC updates guidelines to make clear cloth masks offer least protection against COVID.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/01/cdc-guidelines-cloth-masks-n95-kn95-covid.html
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Great Points
Our medical community really should have had perfect knowledge of an unknown and ever evolving virus from Day 1
If they can't do that they how can we ever trust anything they say
It's makes much more sense to take medical advice from politicians and internet "influencers"
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Great Points
Our medical community really should have had perfect knowledge of an unknown and ever evolving virus from Day 1
If they can't do that they how can we ever trust anything they say
It's makes much more sense to take medical advice from politicians and internet "influencers"
they seem to have knocked up a vaccine for an "unknown" virus pretty quickly
and its a coronavirus, they have been around for millions of years
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they seem to have knocked up a vaccine for an "unknown" virus pretty quickly
and its a coronavirus, they have been around for millions of years
not this one or it's various mutations
don't guys like you believe that China created this as a weapon just a few years ago
Isn't the story that the Communist Chinese government made this an unleashed it on the world (including themselves) to help Western Drug companies make billions in profits (so nice of them to be so concerned about helping our drug companies make more money)
Hopefully next time China makes a new virus they'll have the foresight to first make the vaccine for their own people and of course to sell to the rest of the world
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Great Points
Our medical community really should have had perfect knowledge of an unknown and ever evolving virus from Day 1
If they can't do that they how can we ever trust anything they say
It's makes much more sense to take medical advice from politicians and internet "influencers"
When a scientist isn't sure about what a practice outcome is, he should mention that he isn't sure about it. What these scientists did is they handed every shitty method to the people as a miracle, they helped mandate it to the general population and it failed again and again. Not only it failed, it made it worst. Those vaxx made people sick and they didn't stop the virus.
The definition of the vaxx has been changed to fit their narrative, they helped the fear spread... All for a virus that even at it's peak, didn't kill more than 0.3%.
How anybody is supposed to trust them?
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When a scientist isn't sure about what a practice outcome is, he should mention that he isn't sure about it. What these scientists did is they handed every shitty method to the people as a miracle, they helped mandate it to the general population and it failed again and again. Not only it failed, it made it worst. Those vaxx made people sick and they didn't stop the virus.
The definition of the vaxx has been changed to fit their narrative, they helped the fear spread... All for a virus that even at it's peak, didn't kill more than 0.3%.
How anybody is supposed to trust them?
I believe they acted good faith with the information they had at the time (which wasn't much)
At this point we can see that the people who are getting very sick and dying are mostly the unvaccinated and the fraction of vaccinated people that are getting sick and/or dying usually have multiple co-morbidities
Those aren't opinions. That is the data we have at the moment
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Trust nothing of what the media, doctors or big pharma tells you.
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I believe they acted good faith with the information they had at the time (which wasn't much)
At this point we can see that the people who are getting very sick and dying are mostly the unvaccinated and the fraction of vaccinated people that are getting sick and/or dying usually have multiple co-morbidities
Those aren't opinions. That is the data we have at the moment
No they didnt act in good faith this thing came out of a Chinese Lab and Fauci has known it from day 1
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I believe they acted good faith with the information they had at the time (which wasn't much)
At this point we can see that the people who are getting very sick and dying are mostly the unvaccinated and the fraction of vaccinated people that are getting sick and/or dying usually have multiple co-morbidities
Those aren't opinions. That is the data we have at the moment
You'll believe anything then, obviously.
Fauci FUNDED the origin of the virus. Perhaps Maddow, Steltzer and the others forgot to mention it.
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No they didnt act in good faith this thing came out of a Chinese Lab and Fauci has known it from day 1
I disagree but go ahead and post your proof and maybe you'll convince me to change my mind
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not this one or it's various mutations
don't guys like you believe that China created this as a weapon just a few years ago
Isn't the story that the Communist Chinese government made this an unleashed it on the world (including themselves) to help Western Drug companies make billions in profits (so nice of them to be so concerned about helping our drug companies make more money)
Hopefully next time China makes a new virus they'll have the foresight to first make the vaccine for their own people and of course to sell to the rest of the world
Just a few years ago??? Like today those are the actual facts. Meanwhile MSM banned anyone who mentioned it from social media weeks prior to the election. This censuring of actual facts absolutely fixed the election. #1 issue and we were force fed lies with no ability to question it
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I believe they acted good faith with the information they had at the time (which wasn't much)
At this point we can see that the people who are getting very sick and dying are mostly the unvaccinated and the fraction of vaccinated people that are getting sick and/or dying usually have multiple co-morbidities
Those aren't opinions. That is the data we have at the moment
I'll never trust a data provided by a government or a party making money out of these false data. No independent party will be freely allowed to collect the data. Hell even doctors and citizens aren't allowed to speak freely about these subjects in most social media.
There's a whole load of signs to show you that there's a big scam going on, you just refuse to see it.
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I disagree but go ahead and post your proof and maybe you'll convince me to change my mind
Disagree all you want facts are facts
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/
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You'll believe anything then, obviously.
Fauci FUNDED the origin of the virus. Perhaps Maddow, Steltzer and the others forgot to mention it.
post your proof and maybe you'll convince me to change my mind
I'm heading to the gym so I'll check back later today and read all the proof that you posted
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post your proof and maybe you'll convince me to change my mind
I'm heading to the gym so I'll check back later today and read all the proof that you posted
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/fauci-team-cared-more-about-international-harmony-than-the-truth/
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Nobody wants to be wrong, I get that. But an avalanche of info all around that the vaxxx was at best handled poorly....at worst intentionally. Either way it didn't accomplish anything for public health...nada.
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post your proof and maybe you'll convince me to change my mind
I'm heading to the gym so I'll check back later today and read all the proof that you posted
170 pages over in the other thread that you've avoided. Don't forget the kegels.
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I mean for fuck sake how do you think it spontaneously transferred in a Seafood market when there is a biotech lab studying cultures of it across the street? I knew about a week into the fucking epidemic how the fuck you are debating this 2 years later is beyond me. Common fucking sense tells you it came from the fucking lab studying it across the street.
https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Letter-Re.-Feb-1-Emails-011122.pdf
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Disagree all you want facts are facts
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/the-wuhan-lab-and-the-gain-of-function-disagreement/
Did you actually read that?
If so can you just post the paragraph that proves your point
Also, did you see the other link at the bottom of the page
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Did you actually read that?
If so can you just post the paragraph that proves your point
Also, did you see the other link at the bottom of the page
Are you fucking retarded????
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170 pages over in the other thread that you've avoided. Don't forget the kegels.
unlike others I don't spend every waking moment reading this board
just summarize the key facts here if you don't mind
I'll check back later today
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Are you fucking retarded????
just post the paragraph(s) that proves your point
if you can't do that then just say so
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just post the paragraph(s) that proves your point
if you can't do that then just say so
How the fuck do you expect anyone to believe it spontaneously came from a seafood market when there is a lab studying the virus across the street from the seafood market???????????? Oh and btw it is funded by a joint US/Chinese venture so fuck yes the US and China are going to claim it came from seafood but is anyone stupid enough to believe that it is incredulous apparently so you fucking morons
https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab/
This shouldnt even be debateable lab studying the fucking disease vs seafood markets that haven't changed a damn thing in decades which one is the more probably source??? Which one is the only possible source how fucking dumb are you
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Are you fucking retarded????
brian, he is
very much so
and he said hes going to the gym, to do vagina thrusts
maybe some face-pulls, aerobics in leggings
no way this person is a male who lifts
the phaggotry is much too strong
maybe goes to curves for pizza
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just post the paragraph(s) that proves your point
if you can't do that then just say so
Only dumb fucks need others to think for them. Follow any gov steps, see the contradictions, follow where the money goes and if you're smart enough you'll know if it's legit or a scam.
Just the fact you need paragraphs to see which side to side with show what you're all about.
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just post the paragraph(s) that proves your point
if you can't do that then just say so
Hey prove the giant Orangatang wondering around town came out of the ZOO full of giant orangatangs in the center of town and one didn't just naturally evolve from a pet dog. Are you fucking retarded?
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unlike others I don't spend every waking moment reading this board
just summarize the key facts here if you don't mind
I'll check back later today
Actually I don't see the thread now. Too hot a topic for Getbig?
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Hey prove the giant Orangatang wondering around town came out of the ZOO full of giant orangatangs in the center of town and one didn't just naturally evolve from a pet dog. Are you fucking retarded?
Hahaha. Legit.
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hard to believe joe rogan is an intellectual.
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Hahaha. Legit.
You don't need to be Sherlock Holms to figure this one out
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hard to believe joe rogan is an intellectual.
hard to believe someone who posts here constantly about nude men in sandals has the nuts to comment on one so successful
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Hey prove the giant Orangatang wondering around town came out of the ZOO full of giant orangatangs in the center of town and one didn't just naturally evolve from a pet dog. Are you fucking retarded?
Hahahaha truth.
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hard to believe someone who posts here constantly about nude men in sandals has the nuts to comment on one so successful
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Straw is a Commie troll with an agenda.
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The title of this post is incredibly misleading.
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I was going to move this thread to the political board but I thought I'd leave it here and watch everyone else point out what an idiot troll straw man is.
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I was going to move this thread to the political board but I thought I'd leave it here and watch everyone else point out what an idiot troll straw man is.
Nice!
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As usual playing both sides like suckers.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/new-normal-football-star-alphonso-davies-develops-myocarditis-will-weeks/
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The majority of us already know you have the attention span of a gnat…but here. Get owned again
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3SCsueX2bZdbEzRtKOCEyT?si=8bC-nju6SzWQcV2M9oDNJA
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hard to believe joe rogan is an intellectual.
He's never in his life claimed to be an intellectual
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who's the soy boy twink in the video? Couldn't stand him for 5 seconds
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Joe Rogan...isn't that the guy who stated he can do a blowjob on his own c*ck? Since he said he sucks his own dick I can't listen to his YT channel show anymore.
Whenever I see his face I have to vomit ;D
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Rogan makes obvious factual mistakes all the time when talking about everything not just political covid stuff he doesn't fact check or do his research
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hes just a guy with a podcast
the left loses t heir shit over him because they are weak minded
they love to cancel. they tried but no luck
rogan doesnt pretend to be a dr or anything else
he has an opinion like everyone his just reaches many like minded folks
again, the weak minded left melt down
anyone with an opinion not like theirs they cry scream cancel etc. you know like communism.
very weak
thats why they are failing with everything and getting their ass handed to them daily
weak things break
like the strawwoman on this site probably cries at night with trump taking up his thoughts and dreams
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Hahaha…..too funny!
The KING of the antivaxxers gets DESTROYED by Science and logic.
The TRUTH always wins.
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Straw is a Commie troll with an agenda.
This
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Great Points
Our medical community really should have had perfect knowledge of an unknown and ever evolving virus from Day 1
If they can't do that they how can we ever trust anything they say
It's makes much more sense to take medical advice from politicians and internet "influencers"
Maybe don't take medical advice from so called doctors bought and paid for by big pharma ::)
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Rogan makes obvious factual mistakes all the time when talking about everything not just political covid stuff he doesn't fact check or do his research
He attempts to fact check in real time constantly and admits when he's wrong. His podcast is just meant to be two people having a discussion while other people eavsdrop.
As for "doing his research", most times when he has guests on he's read their books, articles, and other stuff that pertain to the person he's interviewing. He does his research all the time.
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Whatever side of this debate that you reside on, the media bias/influence should concern you. It may favor your position today- you may only have your position BECAUSE of media bias- but one day when it does not support your position you will realize how truly fucked as a society and a nation that we are.
The media used to fight censorship. Freedom of the press. Now the media is being used as an instrument OF censorship.
This should be a grave concern for everyone but so many people are blind to it.
It's the same way with the courts. You may agree or disagree with a court decision but you should be paying attention to the undue influence created by biased media coverage.
We are really at an awful point in American history. I don't believe there's any coming back from it. We are no longer the worlds no 1 super power. Whats next is many more years like the last 5 or 6. People blinded by their own petty divisions , split over every conceivable topic. Fueled by the algorithm. No civil discourse. Whats next is a long shitty slide into a 3rd world way of life.
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He attempts to fact check in real time constantly and admits when he's wrong. His podcast is just meant to be two people having a discussion while other people eavsdrop.
As for "doing his research", most times when he has guests on he's read their books, articles, and other stuff that pertain to the person he's interviewing. He does his research all the time.
He's not the worst guy in the world. I can't get past that 100 lb dumbbell debacle, but he doesn't deserve to be censored.
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He's not the worst guy in the world. I can't get past that 100 lb dumbbell debacle, but he doesn't deserve to be censored.
Nobody does.
However, the 100lb dumbbell Cuomo thing might have been the dumbest thing he's every said. Especially for someone as into exercise as he's been. He mentioned the other day his fans destroyed him for it.
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Whatever side of this debate that you reside on, the media bias/influence should concern you. It may favor your position today- you may only have your position BECAUSE of media bias- but one day when it does not support your position you will realize how truly fucked as a society and a nation that we are.
The media used to fight censorship. Freedom of the press. Now the media is being used as an instrument OF censorship.
This should be a grave concern for everyone but so many people are blind to it.
It's the same way with the courts. You may agree or disagree with a court decision but you should be paying attention to the undue influence created by biased media coverage.
We are really at an awful point in American history. I don't believe there's any coming back from it. We are no longer the worlds no 1 super power. Whats next is many more years like the last 5 or 6. People blinded by their own petty divisions , split over every conceivable topic. Fueled by the algorithm. No civil discourse. Whats next is a long shitty slide into a 3rd world way of life.
TRUTH
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everyone in that vid is an imbecile.
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https://dossier.substack.com/p/270-doctors-called-out-joe-rogan (https://dossier.substack.com/p/270-doctors-called-out-joe-rogan)
Straw is a piece of shit. What's new, hahaha
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https://dossier.substack.com/p/270-doctors-called-out-joe-rogan (https://dossier.substack.com/p/270-doctors-called-out-joe-rogan)
Straw is a piece of shit. What's new, hahaha
The article is titled: '270 doctors’ called out Joe Rogan, but the authors of the letter and the vast majority of its signatories are not medical doctors
"Well, I reviewed this open letter, and it turns out that only around 100 of the 270+ signatories to the letter are people with qualified medical degrees. And a large chunk of that 100 or so medical doctors are MDs employed at universities who are not in fact practitioners of medicine."
Lots of "helfcare profezionals"
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Over 1,000 studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals say the vaccines are dangerous
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/over-1000-studies-published-in-peer
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mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are really ‘gene therapy’ and not vaccines
former professor at the University of Virginia’s school of medicine Dr. David Martin, Ph.D
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/mrna-covid-19-vaccines-are-really-gene-therapy-and-not-vaccines-ethicist
“The problem is that in the case of Moderna and Pfizer, this is not a vaccine. This is gene therapy,” he continued. The Moderna and Pfizer creations send “a strand of synthetic RNA into the human being and is invoking within the human being the creation of the S1 spike protein, which is a pathogen.”
“This is not only not keeping you from getting sick, it’s making your body produce the thing that makes you sick,” Martin added.
The interviewer admitted that this description – that the injection makes one's body produce an effect that makes one sick – sounds somewhat similar to the effect of vaccines.
But Martin countered that it is “not at all” like a vaccine, since “a vaccine is supposed to trigger immunity. It’s not supposed to trigger you to make a toxin.”
“It’s not somewhat different. It’s not the same at all,” Martin explained. “It’s a means by which your body is conscripted to make the toxin that then allegedly your body somehow gets used to dealing with, but unlike a vaccine, which is to trigger the immune response, this is to trigger the creation of the toxin.”
Targeting the pharmaceutical companies behind the supposed vaccinations, Martin alleged that they have manipulated clinical trial methodology to push their “vaccines” through development and production.
“They (pharmaceutical companies) said they could not test for the existence or absence of the virus and they could not test for the transmissivity because they said it would be impractical. (lol) The companies themselves have admitted to every single thing I’m saying, but they are using the public manipulation of the word vaccine to co-opt the public into believing they’re getting a thing which they are not getting.”
Colleen Huber, NMD
https://www.primarydoctor.org/covidvaccine
What happened to the animals in the studies? This technology has been tried on animals, and in the animal studies done, all the animals died, not immediately from the injection, but months later, from other immune disorders, sepsis and/or cardiac failure. There has never been a long-term successful animal study using this technology. No experimental coronavirus vaccine has succeeded in animal studies. In this study, coronavirus vaccine caused liver inflammation in test animals.
https://elcolectivodeuno.wordpress.com/2021/09/23/german-pathologists-link-deaths-to-k0-b1t-injection/
'German pathology professors Arne Burkhardt and Walter Lang say autopsies of people who died after vaccination against K0 B1T speak for themselves.
On 20 September, Dr. Arne Burkhardt listed his pathological findings of ten people over the age of 50 who were autopsied and who died at different intervals after the K0 B1T injection.
In recent months, the pathologist from Reutlingen and Professor Walter Lang have microscopically examined tissue material from the deceased. The material was made available to them by other forensic doctors and pathologists from German-speaking countries.
The list of pathologists contained specific information on persons, vaccinations and time of death.
82 years died 37 days after the second Modern vaccination.
72 years died 31 days after the 1st vaccination Comirnaty
95 years died 68 days after the second vaccination Modern
73 years old, time course unknown, died after 1st vaccination Comirnaty
54 years old, died 65 days after the first Janssen vaccination.
A 55-year-old man died 11 days after the second Pfizer/BionTech vaccination.
56-year-old woman died 8 days after Comirnaty vaccination.
80-year-old woman died 37 days after Pfizer Biontech vaccination.
89-year-old woman died 6 months after second vaccination, vaccine unknown.
62 year old, died 20 days after vaccination, vaccine and dose unknown
Doctors suspect that other potentially life-threatening side effects of corona vaccination include autoimmune phenomena, reduced immune capacity, accelerated cancer growth, “endothelitis” due to vascular damage, vasculitis, perivasculitis and “clumping” of erythrocytes.
Rare autoimmune diseases
Small capillaries with lymphocyte infiltration and partial destruction.
Salivary gland tissue showing destruction of the contractile epithelia.
All are symptoms of autoimmune disease in all tissues and organs.
To see this in a sample of 10 patients is extremely rare…
Burkhardt described it as “extreme” that among the ten deceased were three very rare autoimmune diseases, namely Sjogren’s syndrome, leukoclasm vasculitis of the skin and Hashimoto’s disease.
Burkhardt and his colleagues have been doing research for the past few months. He said he could think of only one thing when he saw the results: “a lymphocyte riot”, potentially in all tissues and organs. Lymphocytes were found in a wide variety of tissues, from liver, kidney, spleen to uterus and tumours, which massively attacked the tissue there.
Burkhardt criticised the fact that death certificates, as they currently exist, are “completely inadequate” and “ultimately statistically worthless”.
Burkhardt concluded that politicians say: “If you don’t want to be vaccinated, you have to face the consequences, but everyone who gets vaccinated also has to face the consequences”'
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I know that alot of doctors been working under big pharma and prescribed pain killers ( for too long ) and got thousands of people hooked on them.
I know that the DSM did put some minor issues that can be treated by themself as mental health troubles and got thousands of kids hooked on meds they don't even need. I know that DSM considere a boy mental if he don't want to focus on a silly subject but it's perfectly normal if he thinks he is a girl.
There's no study about those matters I'm gonna trust because I know there's hundreds of doctors and scientists working for the Pfizer, Moderna... and are ready to write anything that suit their masters.
They said the mask will stop the spreading and it didn't, then the vaxx will stop it and it didn't. Then they said two jabs is considered fully vaccinated and now they don't. The spreading kept going and they moved to the narrative : The vaxx will keep you out of the hospital but there's alot of vaxxed in there. Actually what they said was if everyone wore a mask as they should it could slow the spread. We didn't. They also did not say you or I getting vaccinated would stop the spread. They have consistently talked about herd immunity and although they moved the goal post on that, it remained the popular theory among the experts. Sadly we have never reached that number because people believe Joe Rogan and not the experts so can you really blame the failure on the experts? They also said getting fully vaccinated would offer a significant amount of protection against sever illness and death. I think the stats bear that out.
I can go for at least 20 reasons why people don't trust the vaxx and every step about this subject who doesn't seem to follow any logical pattern.
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Over 1,000 studies published in peer-reviewed medical journals say the vaccines are dangerous
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/over-1000-studies-published-in-peer
We can now confirm the 2017 depopulation defence-intelligence documents, showing the planned murder of over 55 million across the United Kingdom by 2025 using this biochemical weapon or my other favourite from that link "contains biologically toxic nano-metamaterials associated with 5G urban data gathering capability"....looks like a legit source you posted to there my man
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You are or used to be a police officer right?
I don't listen to pigs. You're just a tool making the elite safe and opressing people over masks. I have no respect, for you.
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You are or used to be a police officer right?
I don't listen to pigs. You're just a tool making the elite safe and opressing people over masks. I have no respect, for you.
like in all walks of life there are minorities in every group
police are probably 90% conservative
but a handful of dem-cuckolds like agnostic exist
this board and lifters in general are like 90% conservative
but a handful of modern day dem-cucks exist here are are looney and handed their ass to them daily
capt "copy/paste" prime-glory-hole especially
from boregon what can you expect
strawgirl is from libland cali, a very deranged individual
no idea where jurker-somemore or funk99 are from
probably lib-lands and they are probably old and meek
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like in all walks of life there are minorities in every group
police are probably 90% conservative
but a handful of dem-cuckolds like agnostic exist
this board and lifters in general are like 90% conservative
but a handful of modern day dem-cucks exist here are are looney and handed their ass to them daily
capt "copy/paste" prime-glory-hole especially
from boregon what can you expect
strawgirl is from libland cali, a very deranged individual
no idea where jurker-somemore or funk99 are from
probably lib-lands and they are probably old and meek
People need to start thinking for themselve instead of letting a political party guide them. Idiots like agnostic, oak aka howard exist by the millions now and are the one making a totalitarian regime possible. They're auto-destructive.
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FALSE! In NYC everyone wears a mask and it didnt do jack squat!
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Actually what they said was if everyone wore a mask as they should it could slow the spread. We didn't. They also did not say you or I getting vaccinated would stop the spread. They have consistently talked about herd immunity and although they moved the goal post on that, it remained the popular theory among the experts. Sadly we have never reached that number because people believe Joe Rogan and not the experts so can you really blame the failure on the experts? They also said getting fully vaccinated would offer a significant amount of protection against sever illness and death. I think the stats bear that out
They have been inconsistent/wrong on the messaging around masks and the vaccine, flat out wrong on the lockdown, passports, and quarantine and completely silent on natural immunity and giving advice on diet, supplementation and exercise.
But, back to your herd immunity comment, if we're at 60%+ vaxxed, and a large part of the population have natural immunity, what is the number you're looking for? In addition, the vaccine is generally useless against Omicron. I have seen people make comments to studies, etc that show the protection against severe illness, but I legitimately don't understand how there is conclusive data on this, and nobody ever gives a link. I'm sure there are millions of people who were unvaccinated, got Omicron and recovered that are not included in the data, thus skewing the numbers. I am legitimately curious how they calculate this.
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They have been inconsistent/wrong on the messaging around masks and the vaccine, flat out wrong on the lockdown, passports, and quarantine and completely silent on natural immunity and giving advice on diet, supplementation and exercise.
But, back to your herd immunity comment, if we're at 60%+ vaxxed, and a large part of the population have natural immunity, what is the number you're looking for? In addition, the vaccine is generally useless against Omicron. I have seen people make comments to studies, etc that show the protection against severe illness, but I legitimately don't understand how there is conclusive data on this, and nobody ever gives a link. I'm sure there are millions of people who were unvaccinated, got Omicron and recovered that are not included in the data, thus skewing the numbers. I am legitimately curious how they calculate this.
this
unvaccinated people dont get tested...
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They have been inconsistent/wrong on the messaging around masks and the vaccine, flat out wrong on the lockdown, passports, and quarantine and completely silent on natural immunity and giving advice on diet, supplementation and exercise.
But, back to your herd immunity comment, if we're at 60%+ vaxxed, and a large part of the population have natural immunity, what is the number you're looking for? In addition, the vaccine is generally useless against Omicron. I have seen people make comments to studies, etc that show the protection against severe illness, but I legitimately don't understand how there is conclusive data on this, and nobody ever gives a link. I'm sure there are millions of people who were unvaccinated, got Omicron and recovered that are not included in the data, thus skewing the numbers. I am legitimately curious how they calculate this.
It's 1/2 wild ass guess and 1/2 political nudging the answer they want.
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Vax Whore Fascists
https://twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1482452629456359430?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1482452629456359430%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fshock-poll-half-of-democrats-want-covid-skeptics-in-prison%2F
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Vax Whore Fascists
https://twitter.com/SKMorefield/status/1482452629456359430?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1482452629456359430%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fshock-poll-half-of-democrats-want-covid-skeptics-in-prison%2F
Man that’s just fucking nuts. Who ran that poll?
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Man that’s just fucking nuts. Who ran that poll?
No its not nuts - I live in NYC area and this is exactly how most liberal sick mentally deranged freaks think. This poll is 100% reflective if what I hear from these paranoid delusional hypochondriacs.
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You'll believe anything then, obviously.
Fauci FUNDED the origin of the virus. Perhaps Maddow, Steltzer and the others forgot to mention it.
I've been off this board for a day and a half
Since I know you have the attention span of a house fly I'll just post the title and the summary
You can read all the details for yourself and then feel free to post anything factual that you have to refute it if you can
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are both proven hypocrites and pathological liars and both are using their lies to fleece money from Trumptards.
The current set of facts don't support their claims
Fact-checking the Paul-Fauci flap over Wuhan lab funding
There is some smoke here, but we do not yet perceive the fire claimed by Paul. To some extent, all money is fungible. But the EcoHealth funding was not related to the experiments, but the collection of samples. The NIH grant includes language that some say suggests gain-of-function research; NIH says that is a misinterpretation. Paul’s statements about Baric’s research also appear overblown. We wavered between Two and Three Pinocchios, but decided on Two, because there still are enough questions about the work at the Wuhan lab to warrant further scrutiny, even if the NIH connection to possible gain-of-function research appears so far to be elusive.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/18/fact-checking-senator-paul-dr-fauci-flap-over-wuhan-lab-funding/
The repeated claim that Fauci lied to Congress about ‘gain-of-function’ research
EcoHealth’s research has come under increased scrutiny after more details about its work in China have been revealed, either through congressional or journalistic pressure. The NIH letter, flawed though it may be, indicates the federal government is taking a closer look, too.
But we see no reason to change the Two Pinocchio rating we awarded Paul. There is a split in the scientific community about what constitutes gain-of-function research. To this day, NIH says this research did not meet the criteria — a stance that is not an outlier in the scientific community. Indeed, it appears as if EcoHealth halted the experiment as soon as it seemed to veer in that direction.
Meanwhile, Cotton and Cruz are spinning the letter as confirming what it does not say. They are welcome to offer an opinion about its meaning. But, so far, it’s not a fact that NIH has admitted funding gain-of-function research. So they also earn Two Pinocchios.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/
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I've been off this board for a day and a half
Since I know you have the attention span of a house fly I'll just post the title and the summary
You can read all the details for yourself and then feel free to post anything factual that you have to refute it if you can
Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are both proven hypocrites and pathological liars and both are using their lies to fleece money from Trumptards.
The current set of facts don't support their claims
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/18/fact-checking-senator-paul-dr-fauci-flap-over-wuhan-lab-funding/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/10/29/repeated-claim-that-fauci-lied-congress-about-gain-of-function-research/
You are literally months behind the news that is now out. Ridiculous.
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You are literally months behind the news that is now out. Ridiculous.
straw doesnt like that ted and ron attack his heroes (biden admin)
he punches holes in his walls and cries and screams like a girl
poor bastard has severe tds it consumes him
the anger comes out in his posts then he says "im not mad" lol
he kicks his dog he yells at his ma he slams his boyfriends rear-end hard (though with only a 2-incher)
very insane person this strawgal
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You are literally months behind the news that is now out. Ridiculous.
The last link I provided is from October 29th but if you have more recent information then POST IT
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The last link I provided is from October 29th but if you have more recent information then POST IT
LOL! 10/21
Just last week emails were exposed that DARPA BELIEVED THIS WAS A LAB LEAK
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LOL! 10/21
Just last week emails were exposed that DARPA BELIEVED THIS WAS A LAB LEAK
Great job with the reading comprehension counselor
1. Still no link
2. My post was specifically about the bogus claim that Fauci lied about the NIH and gain of function
I'm done wasting my time with you
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dont listen to rogan, you must listen to elmo and bill gates
lol
wow are dems the dumbest on the planet lol
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dont listen to rogan, you must listen to elmo and bill gates
lol
wow are dems the dumbest on the planet lol
Strawdick is a special kind of stupid. I do like his gym equipment pics. But his political views are from his anus.
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Straw would do all of these things, put unvaxxed in camps, have cops arrest them, take kids away, etc.
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https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-risky-virus-research-in-wuhan/ampM
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Hahaha…..too funny!
The KING of the antivaxxers gets DESTROYED by Science and logic.
The TRUTH always wins.
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You only call him an antivaxxer because he's a white male. You wouldn't dare do this if he were a brown/Muslim. This a a disturbing Canadian white liberal pattern.
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Straw Man must be a prototypical programmed arrogant boomer that lacks any vestige of social conscience.
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im not really a rogan fan but i love how he sets dems off their rockers
owns their mind
hilarious
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You only call him an antivaxxer because he's a white male. You wouldn't dare do this if he were a brown/Muslim. This a a disturbing Canadian white liberal pattern.
Wrong.
He’s an antivaxxer because he refuses to get vaccinated.
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Wrong.
He’s an antivaxxer because he refuses to get vaccinated.
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He already had Rona - he doesnt need to get vaccinated.
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He already had Rona - he doesnt need to get vaccinated.
LOL
“Natural Immunity” lasts 90 days.
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LOL
“Natural Immunity” lasts 90 days.
and the vax 5-6 months. So just let it be. Even hamsters are getting the rona!
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modern life by the leftist loons
but they try to hide the global pushback
just go on youtube, countries out there by the 10's of thousands protesting against the poison-jab
left will fully collapse as they are eating their own tail
plus their lack of brainpower is chilling
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LOL
“Natural Immunity” lasts 90 days.
Are you seeing large amounts of unvaxxed rehospitalizations for reinfected?
Don't think so, it would be a headline.
The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.
The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.
Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.
Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.
As with antibodies, the numbers of different immune cell types varied substantially between individuals. Neither gender nor differences in disease severity could account for this variability. However, 95% of the people had at least 3 out of 5 immune-system components that could recognize SARS-CoV-2 up to 8 months after infection.
“Several months ago, our studies showed that natural infection induced a strong response, and this study now shows that the responses last,” Weiskopf says. “We are hopeful that a similar pattern of responses lasting over time will also emerge for the vaccine-induced responses.”
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
How long does natural immunity last?
The study — published in the medical journal Nature Microbiology — reviewed blood samples from people who were infected in the first wave of the coronavirus pandemic.
The researchers found the antibodies were able to fight off infection lived for 10 months after symptoms.
https://www.deseret.com/coronavirus/2021/11/2/22759084/how-long-natural-immunity-keeps-you-safe-from-covid-19
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In five years, Joe Rogan will be seen as a hero, and the Strawman types will act like they knew it was a fraud all along.
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-trial-worlds-first-finds-4th-dose-not-good-enough-against-omicron
4 DOSES NOT ENOUGH! TAKE 400!
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If the vaccine is so great, how come Moderna’s stock is tanking so badly?
Moron pimping this failed product don’t even know this happened.
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everyone I know that got omnicron beat it in a day or two.
(couple of gym clowns, couple of family members)
non-vaccinated
how can any adult with a brain keep thinking piling on boosters because they are told to, is a good idea?
critical thinking skills much?
i must have a superb immune system
no flu's, no colds, no covid
one time I got the flu was post-vaccination
people are called 'anti-vaxxers' like its a bad thing
ill take it, and my incredible immune system
while you get stuck full of fauci-jizz
lol
and maybe die of a heart attack ::)
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and the vax 5-6 months. So just let it be. Even hamsters are getting the rona!
Yes….hence the booster.
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LOL
“Natural Immunity” lasts 90 days.
In my country authorities give you a 6 month imunity certificate if one gets Covid. Maybe it's a different Covid and a different science.
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In my country authorities give you a 6 month imunity certificate if one gets Covid. Maybe it's a different Covid and a different science.
Ok.
Which country are you from?
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Yes….hence the booster.
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Take a booster up your ass every 6 months idiot
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Take a booster up your ass every 6 months idiot
Oak is a moron:
https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/fourth-covid-vaccine-still-doesnt-stop-omicron-israeli-study/
Even a fourth shot of a COVID-19 vaccine is “not good enough” to prevent Omicron, according to a preliminary study in Israel.
Sheba Hospital last month tested a fourth shot given to more than 270 medical workers, with 154 getting the Pfizer jab and 120 receiving Moderna.
The researchers revealed Monday that both groups showed a “slightly higher” increase in antibodies than after the third shot — but still not enough to prevent Omicron, the latest variant responsible for the vast majority of infections around the world.
“Despite increased antibody levels, the fourth vaccine only offers a partial defense against the virus,” said Dr. Gili Regev-Yochay, director of the hospital’s infection disease unit leading the study.
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The “OAK” much like Strawman, should be ignored from any discussion.
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The “OAK” much like Strawman, should be ignored from any discussion.
Took him off ignore out of boredom. Reinstating.
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The “OAK” much like Strawman, should be ignored from any discussion.
😎
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Oak is a moron:
https://nypost.com/2022/01/18/fourth-covid-vaccine-still-doesnt-stop-omicron-israeli-study/
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Maybe the fifth booster will be a charm?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/09/07/401E5D2900000578-0-image-m-55_1494310013007.jpg)
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Maybe the fifth booster will be a charm?
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/05/09/07/401E5D2900000578-0-image-m-55_1494310013007.jpg)
Libtards are blind to reality.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJZmv-PVgAILURv?format=jpg&name=large)
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Wrong.
He’s an antivaxxer because he refuses to get vaccinated.
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You wouldn't say that to a Muslim because your Canuck liberal programming forbids you to.
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Covid. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA!
Cowards. You're all gutless cowards.
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As with most of the BS coming from the pro vaccination medical community, this study is misleading.
They took every case of myocarditis that occurred with a Covid positive test, and they call that myocarditis from Covid.
The problem is, thousands of people get hospitalized with myocarditis (along with other ailments) every year. Right now, all of those patients are swabbed for Covid when they are admitted into the hospital. So every positive test that accompanied the hospitalization with myocarditis is included in the study as a Covid induced myocarditis. That is simply not the case.
On the other side of the study, every case of myocarditis that occurred from the vaccine is a true vaccine reaction for the most part. These people were not going into the hospital for other reasons and then found to have “Taken the vaccine“.
Then they extrapolate the results by simply stating cases per million. The additional problem with this tactic, is there a vaccinating millions more children than there are children being sick with Covid. So the total number of myocarditis cases is still higher amongst the vaccinated.
In other words, if 3000 children get sick with Covid every week, and one gets myocarditis every three or four weeks, that’s a very low number of cases per million. However, if you vaccinate 1 million children per week, and you get 10 cases per week of myocarditis, then the cases per million from the vaccine is “lower“. But this does not mean that we are overall providing any benefit to the population as a whole.
Thousands of cases of mild myocarditis are not treated or diagnosed at all. That is just a fact. Children can complain of minor pains in their chest and their parents will do nothing about it. Many times these minor symptoms will update on their own without treatment.
So I cannot even say with any conclusive evidence, that myocarditis is a higher risk one way or the other. Neither can the authors of the study. But because of the political agenda, they were funded paid very well and will be funded for their next study because they decided to take the politically correct Avenue science.
The fact of the matter is, we will not get through randomized controlled trial studies as long as the money driving the science is politically motivated.
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http://www.bloombergquint.com/business/mrna-boosters-don-t-block-omicron-south-african-study-shows
Oooopppsss!!!!!!!
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As with most of the BS coming from the pro vaccination medical community, this study is misleading.
They took every case of myocarditis that occurred with a Covid positive test, and they call that myocarditis from Covid.
The problem is, thousands of people get hospitalized with myocarditis (along with other ailments) every year. Right now, all of those patients are swabbed for Covid when they are admitted into the hospital. So every positive test that accompanied the hospitalization with myocarditis is included in the study as a Covid induced myocarditis. That is simply not the case.
On the other side of the study, every case of myocarditis that occurred from the vaccine is a true vaccine reaction for the most part. These people were not going into the hospital for other reasons and then found to have “Taken the vaccine“.
Then they extrapolate the results by simply stating cases per million. The additional problem with this tactic, is there a vaccinating millions more children than there are children being sick with Covid. So the total number of myocarditis cases is still higher amongst the vaccinated.
In other words, if 3000 children get sick with Covid every week, and one gets myocarditis every three or four weeks, that’s a very low number of cases per million. However, if you vaccinate 1 million children per week, and you get 10 cases per week of myocarditis, then the cases per million from the vaccine is “lower“. But this does not mean that we are overall providing any benefit to the population as a whole.
Thousands of cases of mild myocarditis are not treated or diagnosed at all. That is just a fact. Children can complain of minor pains in their chest and their parents will do nothing about it. Many times these minor symptoms will update on their own without treatment.
So I cannot even say with any conclusive evidence, that myocarditis is a higher risk one way or the other. Neither can the authors of the study. But because of the political agenda, they were funded paid very well and will be funded for their next study because they decided to take the politically correct Avenue science.
The fact of the matter is, we will not get through randomized controlled trial studies as long as the money driving the science is politically motivated.
Numbers lie and liars use numbers. These studies are carefully doctored and misdirected to manipulate foolish people.