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FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« on: February 26, 2015, 03:45:53 PM »
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2015/02/26/fcc-approves-net-neutrality-rules/24053057/



WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Federal Communications Commission voted Thursday to implement new net neutrality rules designed to make sure Internet service providers treat all legal content equally.

The historic vote on the proposal, pitched by FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler, elicited hearty cheers from a wide array of technology companies and consumer groups while setting the table for lawsuits from Internet service providers. The controversial proceedings that led up to the vote generated heated lobbying in Washington and public clamor on social media, all in efforts to steer the future direction of the rules that guide Internet traffic.

"The Internet is too important to allow broadband providers to make the rules," said Wheeler to applause from the standing room-only crowd gathered before the FCC panel.

"So today after a decade of debate in an open, robust year-long process, we finally have legally sustainable rules to ensure that the Internet stays fast, fair and open," he said.





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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2015, 03:49:28 PM »
It means the internet stays as it is and that Cable companies cannot charge for faster service nor can they restrict access to websites or favor other websites over others.  It puts a stop to a tiered internet, where you would have to pay a subscription package for websites or for the speed of access to these websites.   Also, they are not allowed to throttle your connection.

Its quite simple really.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2015, 03:51:28 PM »
Moron Republicans and morons in general don`t understand this and think it would be a good idea to not have net neutrality.  They want cable companies to have the ability to charge per website.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2015, 03:52:31 PM »
It means the internet stays as it is and that Cable companies cannot charge for faster service nor can they restrict access to websites or favor other websites over others.  It puts a stop to a tiered internet, where you would have to pay a subscription package for websites or for the speed of access to these websites.   Also, they are not allowed to throttle your connection.

Its quite simple really.


Got it, thanks TA

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 03:55:14 PM »

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 03:56:41 PM »
ta you are so well spoken and clear minded. Why don't you do interviews for celebs, athletes.. or even bodybuilders :D ?

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 03:57:51 PM »
ta you are so well spoken and clear minded. Why don't you do interviews for celebs, athletes.. or even bodybuilders :D ?
Because I have better things to do like make Banana Cream Pie.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 04:00:45 PM »
Moron Republicans and morons in general don`t understand this and think it would be a good idea to not have net neutrality.  They want cable companies to have the ability to charge per website.

I guess you need to add in moron Democrats, moron independents and moron Libertarians. Just to be fair.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 04:03:02 PM »
TA, it goes well beyond Net Neutrality.  
So, in the face of the greatest technological empowerment of people in the history of the world, why are regulators at our respective agencies, the Federal Communications Commission and the Federal Election Commission, calling for new government regulation of the Internet? The answer is simple. Unfortunately, some see any realm of freedom as a vacuum in need of government control.

For its part, the FCC is about to scrap a Clinton-era bipartisan consensus that the Internet should be free from intrusive government regulation. On Thursday, the agency will likely vote to impose rules upon almost every nut and bolt of the Internet, from the digital connection at your house to the core of the network. In so doing, it’ll dust off the heavy-handed monopoly rules designed for Ma Bell back in the 1930s.

How heavy-handed? The FCC will start regulating broadband rates. It will decree, based on a vaguely defined “Internet conduct” standard, whether companies can offer consumer-friendly service plans (such as T-Mobile’s Music Freedom program, which offers customers unlimited access to streaming music). It will institutionalize innovation by permission — giving advisory opinions on prospective business plans or practices (and companies will ask before innovating for fear of what will happen if they don’t). It will even assert the power to force private companies to physically deploy broadband infrastructure and route Internet traffic in specific ways. And in a gift to the plaintiffs’ bar, the FCC will deputize trial lawyers to file class-action lawsuits if they contend that any of these rules are being violated.

These Internet regulations will deter broadband deployment, depress network investment and slow broadband speeds. How do we know? Compare Europe, which has long had utility-style regulations, with the United States, which has embraced a light-touch regulatory model. Broadband speeds in the United States, both wired and wireless, are significantly faster than those in Europe. Broadband investment in the United States is several multiples that of Europe. And broadband’s reach is much wider in the United States, despite its much lower population density.

So why is the FCC swinging the regulatory sledgehammer? It’s not to guarantee an open Internet. Nowhere in the 332-page plan — which you won’t see until after the FCC votes on it — can one find a description of systemic harms to consumers or entrepreneurs online. And small wonder, for the Internet is open today. Consumers can easily access the content of their choice. Online entrepreneurs can and do innovate freely.

No, the purpose is control for control’s sake. Digital dysfunction must be conjured into being to justify a public-sector power grab. Aside from being a bad deal for everyone who relies on the Internet, this Beltway-centric plan also distracts the FCC from what it should be focusing on: increasing broadband competition and giving consumers better broadband choices.

While the FCC is inserting government bureaucracy into all aspects of Internet access, the FEC is debating whether to regulate Internet content, specifically political speech posted for free online.

Twenty years ago, the FEC began to regulate expenditures for political speech on the Internet, but experience quickly demonstrated that such regulation was counterproductive and highly unpopular. After fits and starts, in 2006, the FEC adopted a regulation that protected the right of people and groups to disseminate political commentary online free from regulation. Specifically, the 2006 rule exempted from regulation all political commentary that citizens and groups post online for free, including on websites, blogs and social media platforms. (The FEC maintained regulation over online posts by campaigns and PACs as well as paid advertisements.)

The freedom protected by the 2006 rule fostered a robust national forum for political discussion. Millions of Americans post political opinions for free on blogs, chat rooms, comment boards and social media platforms like YouTube and Facebook. Without government regulation, political speech and civic engagement have flourished on the Internet, and ordinary citizens have had the same freedom and ability to disseminate their political opinions to a wide public audience as large media corporations.

Despite this success, the FEC finds itself locked in a renewed debate over the regulation of online political opinions. The debate was triggered last October when commissioners split 3-3 in a case involving a group that posted two political videos on YouTube without reporting them to the FEC. Three commissioners (including the co-author of this piece) voted to exempt the YouTube videos from regulation under the 2006 Internet rule while three voted to investigate and regulate the organization. Two months later, commissioners split again over the metes and bounds of the 2006 Internet freedom rule in a case involving an organization that simply posted political news releases on its own website. Even though it would require four votes for the FEC to regulate the Internet, these close votes and the risk of idiosyncratic case-by-case enforcement inevitably discourage citizens and groups from speaking freely online about politics.

Following these deadlocks, the FEC held a hearing this month on Internet regulation and other issues. About 5,000 citizens submitted comments urging the FEC to keep its hands off the Internet. Three former FEC commissioners and five nonprofit groups testified that the Internet should not be regulated. Even “a little” regulation, they maintained, would suppress significant amounts of political speech — for no compelling reason. Significantly, as one former FEC commissioner testified, a decade of free Internet speech has not given rise to corruption. Freedom has served us well.

The bottom line is that Internet freedom works. It is difficult to imagine where we would be today had the government micromanaged the Internet for the past two decades as it does Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service. Neither of us wants to find out where the Internet will be two decades from now if the federal government tightens its regulatory grip. We don’t need to shift control of the Internet to bureaucracies in Washington. Let’s leave the power where it belongs — with the American people. When it comes to Americans’ ability to access online content or offer political speech online, there isn’t anything broken for the government to “fix.” To paraphrase President Ronald Reagan, Internet regulation isn’t the solution to a problem. Internet regulation is the problem.

Ajit Pai is a member of the Federal Communications Commission. The opinions expressed are solely those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the position of their agencies or the U.S. government.

Lee Goodman is a member of the Federal Election Commission.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/fcc-internet-regulations-ajit-pai-115399_full.html#.VOy2PbPF_LU
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 04:05:41 PM »
I guess you need to add in moron Democrats, moron independents and moron Libertarians. Just to be fair.
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 04:10:27 PM »
TA, it goes well beyond Net Neutrality.  
So, in the face of the greatest technological empowerment of people in the history of the world, why are regulators at our respective agencies, the Federal Communications Commission and the Federal Election Commission, calling for new government regulation of the Internet? The answer is simple. Unfortunately, some see any realm of freedom as a vacuum in need of government control.

For its part, the FCC is about to scrap a Clinton-era bipartisan consensus that the Internet should be free from intrusive government regulation. On Thursday, the agency will likely vote to impose rules upon almost every nut and bolt of the Internet, from the digital connection at your house to the core of the network. In so doing, it’ll dust off the heavy-handed monopoly rules designed for Ma Bell back in the 1930s.

How heavy-handed? The FCC will start regulating broadband rates. It will decree, based on a vaguely defined “Internet conduct” standard, whether companies can offer consumer-friendly service plans (such as T-Mobile’s Music Freedom program, which offers customers unlimited access to streaming music). It will institutionalize innovation by permission — giving advisory opinions on prospective business plans or practices (and companies will ask before innovating for fear of what will happen if they don’t). It will even assert the power to force private companies to physically deploy broadband infrastructure and route Internet traffic in specific ways. And in a gift to the plaintiffs’ bar, the FCC will deputize trial lawyers to file class-action lawsuits if they contend that any of these rules are being violated.

These Internet regulations will deter broadband deployment, depress network investment and slow broadband speeds. How do we know? Compare Europe, which has long had utility-style regulations, with the United States, which has embraced a light-touch regulatory model. Broadband speeds in the United States, both wired and wireless, are significantly faster than those in Europe. Broadband investment in the United States is several multiples that of Europe. And broadband’s reach is much wider in the United States, despite its much lower population density.

So why is the FCC swinging the regulatory sledgehammer? It’s not to guarantee an open Internet. Nowhere in the 332-page plan — which you won’t see until after the FCC votes on it — can one find a description of systemic harms to consumers or entrepreneurs online. And small wonder, for the Internet is open today. Consumers can easily access the content of their choice. Online entrepreneurs can and do innovate freely.

No, the purpose is control for control’s sake. Digital dysfunction must be conjured into being to justify a public-sector power grab. Aside from being a bad deal for everyone who relies on the Internet, this Beltway-centric plan also distracts the FCC from what it should be focusing on: increasing broadband competition and giving consumers better broadband choices.

While the FCC is inserting government bureaucracy into all aspects of Internet access, the FEC is debating whether to regulate Internet content, specifically political speech posted for free online.

Twenty years ago, the FEC began to regulate expenditures for political speech on the Internet, but experience quickly demonstrated that such regulation was counterproductive and highly unpopular. After fits and starts, in 2006, the FEC adopted a regulation that protected the right of people and groups to disseminate political commentary online free from regulation. Specifically, the 2006 rule exempted from regulation all political commentary that citizens and groups post online for free, including on websites, blogs and social media platforms. (The FEC maintained regulation over online posts by campaigns and PACs as well as paid advertisements.)

The freedom protected by the 2006 rule fostered a robust national forum for political discussion. Millions of Americans post political opinions for free on blogs, chat rooms, comment boards and social media platforms like YouTube and Facebook. Without government regulation, political speech and civic engagement have flourished on the Internet, and ordinary citizens have had the same freedom and ability to disseminate their political opinions to a wide public audience as large media corporations.

Despite this success, the FEC finds itself locked in a renewed debate over the regulation of online political opinions. The debate was triggered last October when commissioners split 3-3 in a case involving a group that posted two political videos on YouTube without reporting them to the FEC. Three commissioners (including the co-author of this piece) voted to exempt the YouTube videos from regulation under the 2006 Internet rule while three voted to investigate and regulate the organization. Two months later, commissioners split again over the metes and bounds of the 2006 Internet freedom rule in a case involving an organization that simply posted political news releases on its own website. Even though it would require four votes for the FEC to regulate the Internet, these close votes and the risk of idiosyncratic case-by-case enforcement inevitably discourage citizens and groups from speaking freely online about politics.

Following these deadlocks, the FEC held a hearing this month on Internet regulation and other issues. About 5,000 citizens submitted comments urging the FEC to keep its hands off the Internet. Three former FEC commissioners and five nonprofit groups testified that the Internet should not be regulated. Even “a little” regulation, they maintained, would suppress significant amounts of political speech — for no compelling reason. Significantly, as one former FEC commissioner testified, a decade of free Internet speech has not given rise to corruption. Freedom has served us well.

The bottom line is that Internet freedom works. It is difficult to imagine where we would be today had the government micromanaged the Internet for the past two decades as it does Amtrak and the U.S. Postal Service. Neither of us wants to find out where the Internet will be two decades from now if the federal government tightens its regulatory grip. We don’t need to shift control of the Internet to bureaucracies in Washington. Let’s leave the power where it belongs — with the American people. When it comes to Americans’ ability to access online content or offer political speech online, there isn’t anything broken for the government to “fix.” To paraphrase President Ronald Reagan, Internet regulation isn’t the solution to a problem. Internet regulation is the problem.

Ajit Pai is a member of the Federal Communications Commission. The opinions expressed are solely those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the position of their agencies or the U.S. government.

Lee Goodman is a member of the Federal Election Commission.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/02/fcc-internet-regulations-ajit-pai-115399_full.html#.VOy2PbPF_LU
Chicken little nonsense article.

Internet Service Providers want carte blanche on the consumer and they do not hide from that notion.  In fact, I lived in a test area for the tiered internet service where you have to pay per website.  They were so close to doing it until a few Democratic congressmen stepped in and put a halt to it.  

This ruling is the best thing to have happened in a decade or more.  Shilling for corporations to do their worse is just plain stupidity.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 04:12:50 PM »
This is a good thing.  Right now internet providers can refuse service to customers and specific sites.  Now they can't.  It also prevents big corps from taking over the internet

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 04:13:04 PM »
Because I have better things to do like make Banana Cream Pie.

True Adonis, there may be a way for you to combine politics and cooking. It would be pretty epic if you got your own show where you cooked, while discussing politics. I'd definitely watch it.  :) :)
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 04:19:41 PM »
True Adonis, there may be a way for you to combine politics and cooking. It would be pretty epic if you got your own show where you cooked, while discussing politics. I'd definitely watch it.  :) :)


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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 04:22:12 PM »
Ha! Hate to be a Verizon exec's dog when they get home.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 04:40:15 PM »
Chicken little nonsense article.

Internet Service Providers want carte blanche on the consumer and they do not hide from that notion.  In fact, I lived in a test area for the tiered internet service where you have to pay per website.  They were so close to doing it until a few Democratic congressmen stepped in and put a halt to it.  

This ruling is the best thing to have happened in a decade or more.  Shilling for corporations to do their worse is just plain stupidity.

You can pin your hopes on the government all you want but when does the government ever grant itself powers it doesn't intend to use?  The implications of the FCC having regulatory power over the internet are disastrous. We will have to wait and see.
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2015, 04:44:44 PM »
You can pin your hopes on the government all you want but when does the government ever grant itself powers it doesn't intend to use?  The implications of the FCC having regulatory power over the internet are disastrous. We will have to wait and see.

This. This is the worst possible outcome. we wont need to wait long to feel the effects. mark this post.

I quite frankly cant believe it... and it seems nobody cares about the fineprint .

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 04:48:11 PM »
This. This is the worst possible outcome. we wont need to wait long to feel the effects. mark this post.

I quite frankly cant believe it... and it seems nobody cares about the fineprint .

If the FCC has the ability to regulate content on the internet what is stopping them?  No one can stop them.  Head of the FCC is a political appointee.  This is a good example of a Faustian bargain.
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2015, 04:50:07 PM »
Does anyone think that the government is going to specifically target getbig and place restrictions on how often we come here? I say this because there are many people here who have indepth knowledge about economics, politics and conspiracy theories. Thus, getbig may pose a threat to the nation. I don't know. I am just sort of thinking out loud.
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2015, 04:53:09 PM »
Does anyone think that the government is going to specifically target getbig and place restrictions on how often we come here? I say this because there are many people here who have indepth knowledge about economics, politics and conspiracy theories. Thus, getbig may pose a threat to the nation. I don't know. I am just sort of thinking out loud.

This sounds lot like people who don't mind intrusions on civil liberties like the patriot act because as they often say, the government can look all they want because I'm not doing anything wrong.   
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2015, 05:24:54 PM »
This sounds lot like people who don't mind intrusions on civil liberties like the patriot act because as they often say, the government can look all they want because I'm not doing anything wrong.   

It seems like the powers that be may have their eye on getbig, and may want to put the kibosh on getbig!
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2015, 05:31:21 PM »
It seems like the powers that be may have their eye on getbig, and may want to put the kibosh on getbig!

Could be.  They want to regulate the amount of acceptable talk about men in thongs.
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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2015, 05:32:12 PM »
This sounds lot like people who don't mind intrusions on civil liberties like the patriot act because as they often say, the government can look all they want because I'm not doing anything wrong.  

Can't stand that philosophy.

Lets all live in a block of flats made of nothing but transparent glass, because I'm not doing nothing wrong, got nothing to hide.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2015, 05:37:30 PM »
You can pin your hopes on the government all you want but when does the government ever grant itself powers it doesn't intend to use?  The implications of the FCC having regulatory power over the internet are disastrous. We will have to wait and see.
Correct. When the Gov puts it foot in the door, it's not just to let you in, but to let themselves in.

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Re: FCC approves new Internet neutrality rules
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2015, 05:38:55 PM »
Correct. When the Gov puts it foot in the door, it's not just to let you in, but to let themselves in.

hahah, its like inviting a vampire into your home.
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