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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Nutrition, Products & Supplements Info => Topic started by: wrestle@145 on October 17, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
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a friend of mine got on this stuf and went from about 160 to 185...granted he was already in good shape... i saw this transformation with my own eyes...i was just wondering if anyone has used this stuff...heard anything about it..seems like the real deal to me.
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I love it. I got unreal results in 8 weeks. I was skeptical at first, seemed to good, but i gave in and tried it. Im going on again in four weeks. Shits dope bro!
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thats what i like to hear..thanks bro...how do u get it you order online or do u buy at a store?
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I work at a nutriton zone if you live in so cal check us out, our price on it is unreal. But you can also get it from their website. Shit is the real deal, i kept most my gains and i cant wait to feel that shit again.
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whats the price i have a bunch of friends who played football at St. Boneventure in Ventura...im always out their at their houses..any bad sides or anything..ive heard stuf kills sex drive..should i stack with any other supps?
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We do it for $59 bucks. i didn't have any sides, my drive was still present. Strength went way up, and pumps became unreal.
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Here is what I found on the World Doping list of banned subs...
boldione (androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione);
Here is what Tren Extreme has:
19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione
Seems like it might be illegal, but anyone with more info please correct me. I'm just trying to help people out with the more info on products claiming to be natural/non-steroidal.
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Sounds like a pro hormone-banned by IOC and most natural organisations.If you are a natural bodybuilder steer clear.
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Here is what I found on the World Doping list of banned subs...
boldione (androsta-1,4-diene-3,17-dione);
Here is what Tren Extreme has:
19-Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione
Seems like it might be illegal, but anyone with more info please correct me. I'm just trying to help people out with the more info on products claiming to be natural/non-steroidal.
DIFFRENT COMPOUND RE-KNOB! BOLDIONE IS AN EQUIPOSE PRECURSOR- TREN XTREME IS TOTALLY DIFFRENT STRUCTURE- ITS 110# LEGAL AND DOES NOT FALL UNDER ANY BANNED SUBSTANCE LISTS AS OF YET!! IM PRETTY SURE THEY WILL ADD THIS COMPOUND TO THE NEXT BAN LIST!
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DIFFRENT COMPOUND RE-KNOB! BOLDIONE IS AN EQUIPOSE PRECURSOR- TREN XTREME IS TOTALLY DIFFRENT STRUCTURE- ITS 110# LEGAL AND DOES NOT FALL UNDER ANY BANNED SUBSTANCE LISTS AS OF YET!! IM PRETTY SURE THEY WILL ADD THIS COMPOUND TO THE NEXT BAN LIST!
I know squat about compounds, so I was just stating what I saw, trying to find the truth. Since 17-dione is present on the banned list AND in Tren Extreme, would that give a positive drug test?
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I know squat about compounds, so I was just stating what I saw, trying to find the truth. Since 17-dione is present on the banned list AND in Tren Extreme, would that give a positive drug test?
You will not test dirty if all you are on is tren xtreme. its not classified. however if you are competeting in a highly drug tested organization-no need risking it-you might have traces of steroid metabolites-
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You will not test dirty if all you are on is tren xtreme. its not classified. however if you are competeting in a highly drug tested organization-no need risking it-you might have traces of steroid metabolites-
May I ask why I wouldn't test pos for Tren X? and what are steroid metabolites? Sorry to be a pain... I'm trying to find something just as good as steroids but won't test positive.
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Tren Xtreme is stronger than some real gear i have used. It gives you the feeling of "being on". Pumps are present 24/7 and strength is through the roof. It is by far the best OTC i have ever came across. Best thing about it is since it is not methylated, the sides (if any) are little to none. I wouldn't recommend this to anybody under the age 18 or anybody new to training. PCT is recommended after using tren. The same company also makes a product called ESTRO-XTREME which is Formastane. Together they work incredible. If you guys ever have questions about OTC supps feel free to
pm me. I would love to help you out. This is a crazy industry and there is a ton of bogus supps out there. I hate to see people get played.
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hey I'm natty and don't see myself competing anytime soon so I'm not worried about test positive, but this stuff is the real deal? i really need something that works not to mention psychologically it helps me keep my game together (diet & training)
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Ya Tren is by far the best supplement out right now. IT WORKS. TRUST ME
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its the same thing as pharmagenx finigenx. except for this is in capsules-finigenx is green liquid- some call it green hulk pee.
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I'd love to see a high post count member review this supplement
I'm interested in it
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Hey guys i took Tren 2 Extreme and i gained 15lbs in 3 weeks. My only problem is my sex-drive has gone down a lil. What do you guys think i should take to help my sex drive? I am on Tren 2 Extreme, Stanzabol, and i might start taking Testro2 Extreme. Some help would be awsome. Thanks :)
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what are you talking about 2 wheels?? try a good trib product to try and bring up the libido...
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what are you talking about 2 wheels?? try a good trib product to try and bring up the libido...
My bad, i meant 3 weeks. Good trib? How is Estro Extreme by ACL? :-*
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Is this the "Natural Bodybuilding" section?
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I took this with excellent results. Its the exact same thing.
https://www.tfsupplements.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&qt=29&p=511
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for a good trib product try NButrex Vitrix or Controlled Labs Blue up or USPLabs Powerfull..ive never used any of them but trib helps bring back the libido and could be run along with prohormones and should definetly be run after a prohormone cycle with your PCT...
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We do it for $59 bucks. i didn't have any sides, my drive was still present. Strength went way up, and pumps became unreal.
hey swole does your store have an online site?? thats an awesome price...
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It seems many of you have used this stuff... Anyone anywhere here have any neg. sides using this stuff?? I mean anything? :-\
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It seems many of you have used this stuff... Anyone anywhere here have any neg. sides using this stuff?? I mean anything? :-\
Limp Dick. Have fun :D
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Limp Dick. Have fun :D
F-U Don't call me limp dick!!!! Oh, you mean as a neg. side... sorry... haha :P 8) :o ;D
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F-U Don't call me limp dick!!!! Oh, you mean as a neg. side... sorry... haha :P 8) :o ;D
HAhaahhaaahahaaaa
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Limp Dick. Have fun :D
So seriously, this is all anyone is experiencing as a negative side effect?? If that is the case then that is ok with me since I have trouble keeping it down.... DOH! ;D
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I have been working for a retailer that sells ACL products, and no joke I see 90% success rate with the product if not slightly higher. FOr 2 years now we've sold 30-40 bottles a week of it. Never saw anything like it honestly. Stacks well with mass extreme and estro.
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whats up mike havent seen you around here for a while....what would you suggest as a pct after a cycle of that shit
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besides a good trib product...what would you suggest ..
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PCT my fave stack right now is estro by ACL and viraloid by vyo-tech.
Estro is self explanatory, the viraloid not only raises test levels but seems to re-sensitize androgen receptors. The people I've had run these both after a hefty pro hormone cycle kept most of their gains. You might also take a good creatine/beta-alanine combo to help keep your strength up.
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thats cool ive heard some descent things about that viraloid i just dont know about the prohormones also friggen ACL products are pretty fuckin steap in price...i dont know thanks for the input mike...
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Well a bottle of tren runs say 65 average at most places, a bottle lasts a month doesn't seem too steep to me. A full 8 week cycle of tren and mass with PCT of estro and viraloid might set you back 300 and you stand to gain 15 or so pounds of keepable muscle mass. Few if any legit STEROID cycles can offer that and they'll cost twice as much.
Just sayin...
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see ive only seen ACL products on their website and a bottle of tren is like 90 bucks...no agree 300 isnt bad for a complete cycle and 15 pounds...where are you getting these prices from??
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Well a bottle of tren runs say 65 average at most places, a bottle lasts a month doesn't seem too steep to me. A full 8 week cycle of tren and mass with PCT of estro and viraloid might set you back 300 and you stand to gain 15 or so pounds of keepable muscle mass. Few if any legit STEROID cycles can offer that and they'll cost twice as much.
Just sayin...
So what if you only use one bottle and accompany it with the proper pct.. what can you expect?? How long of a cycle is one bottle worth?
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Think they will have it at the arnold classic this year?
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Ok here's the deal with ACL. They started, as a company, producing pro hormones for max muslce stores. Tren extreme is the same thing as the old trenabol (sp?) from max muscle. When MM decided to stop carrying prohormones, ACL went into biz for themselves. Thus their products are usually only available from max muscle stores. Each store gets territory rights, and they usually get a 10 mile radius or so. This means competing retailers cannot carry the products. They also do not sell online except for from their site, but the prices are kept artificially high so that you physically walk to your local retailer. They do this to protect the little guys, one of the many reasons i love the company.
As for prices we sell bottles at 82 BUT almost noone pays that. Get a full cycle and the price drops down as low as 55 a bottle. You should be able to find single bottles for around 60 bucks. Two bottles of tren and one bottle of mass extreme should run around 180, plus 60 for estro is 240 plus viraloid is around 55 so ROUGHLY 300 should get you a nice 8 week cycle with 2 week pct.
You can expect to gain (assuming diet and training are up to par) 10 solid keepable pounds and huge strength increases, moderate fat loss and no problems with gyno or hair loss. I've seen these results time and time again for 2 years now, the products are the real deal.
One small note, yes you see tren knockoffs and I've tried several and for whatever reason the knockoffs never work as good. If you want to save some cash feel free to buy them but don't come on here saying "i took tren x factor or whatever, it's the same as tren extreme and it didnt do shit!" Never knock the products unless you use the real deal.
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hey mike thanks for breaking it down....and they way your describing it ACL sounds like a pretty reputable company operating like that which is pleasant to hear...ill have to keep my eyes open for the deals you speak of because i have been tinkering with taking a cycle or not and with such good reviews i might give it a go
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Ok here's the deal with ACL. They started, as a company, producing pro hormones for max muslce stores. Tren extreme is the same thing as the old trenabol (sp?) from max muscle. When MM decided to stop carrying prohormones, ACL went into biz for themselves. Thus their products are usually only available from max muscle stores. Each store gets territory rights, and they usually get a 10 mile radius or so. This means competing retailers cannot carry the products. They also do not sell online except for from their site, but the prices are kept artificially high so that you physically walk to your local retailer. They do this to protect the little guys, one of the many reasons i love the company.
As for prices we sell bottles at 82 BUT almost noone pays that. Get a full cycle and the price drops down as low as 55 a bottle. You should be able to find single bottles for around 60 bucks. Two bottles of tren and one bottle of mass extreme should run around 180, plus 60 for estro is 240 plus viraloid is around 55 so ROUGHLY 300 should get you a nice 8 week cycle with 2 week pct.
You can expect to gain (assuming diet and training are up to par) 10 solid keepable pounds and huge strength increases, moderate fat loss and no problems with gyno or hair loss. I've seen these results time and time again for 2 years now, the products are the real deal.
One small note, yes you see tren knockoffs and I've tried several and for whatever reason the knockoffs never work as good. If you want to save some cash feel free to buy them but don't come on here saying "i took tren x factor or whatever, it's the same as tren extreme and it didnt do shit!" Never knock the products unless you use the real deal.
Sounds good. what if you are already loosing hair from your lovely genetics?? Will this speed it up?
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Sounds good. what if you are already loosing hair from your lovely genetics?? Will this speed it up?
Probably. I've been losing my hair since I was 15, I shave my head and can't tell if it's any faster when I'm on or off. I would assume it will.
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So what if you only use one bottle and accompany it with the proper pct.. what can you expect?? How long of a cycle is one bottle worth?
One bottle wow, I would think you could gain as much as 10-12 pounds while on, but you're not giving your body enough time to "solidify" the mass. I would guess you could keep 5 pounds total post cycle.
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Mike,
You mentioned that Tren Extreme stacks well with Mass and Estro. I can see the Estro, but how big of an impact in your opinion does the Mass make? What did you see in it for stacking with Tren?
Thanks
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omnevol(now its called testevol), testanate-50, and decabolin are all vastly superior and cost less.
fast action has a new prohormone out that is a combo pherabol/tren that has milk thistle and aakg in it as well and its cheaper than tren is.
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omnevol(now its called testevol), testanate-50, and decabolin are all vastly superior and cost less.
fast action has a new prohormone out that is a combo pherabol/tren that has milk thistle and aakg in it as well and its cheaper than tren is.
your stating because you have experience with these products or because this is your self proclaimed experts opinion...
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i sell supplements for a living. we carry all the pro hormones underneath the sun. i know which is which and whats the best.
tren is a good product. over priced though. there are cheaper, just as effective, clones.
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omnevol(now its called testevol), testanate-50, and decabolin are all vastly superior and cost less.
fast action has a new prohormone out that is a combo pherabol/tren that has milk thistle and aakg in it as well and its cheaper than tren is.
Who is Fast Action? ??? Small no body company that made up a batch of "pro hormomes" in their bathtub??
There are tons of pro hormones out there that are probably nothing but flour in their caps. Do not trust these small companies that have flashy labels, tons of ingredients listed and for a cheap price! That is a red flag and can not be trusted!!
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no fast acton labs is a reputable company with good products. they sell a tren clone, a superdrol clone, a halodrol clone, a couple really good fat burners, and that m1dt i referenced.
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I am 45 years old and needed to get some size back quickly (bicep tendon tear a year ago kept me out of gym) I used a stack of 3 ACL products with great results...
- Tren
- MMA
- AH89
Started with Tren then mid-way added in MMA then switched from Tren to AH89 to end cycle.
My only advice is FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS... yes I felt the need to modify things on a second cycle (double dosing)... Well I stopped that real quick when I had a handful of hair in the shower, luckily that was reversible and stopped when I did... So make sure you follow the directions.
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no fast acton labs is a reputable company with good products. they sell a tren clone, a superdrol clone, a halodrol clone, a couple really good fat burners, and that m1dt i referenced.
Reputable by who, YOU? the FDA?? ???
"clones" huh? That means they are complete rip offs. dangerous and will mess you up worse than you realize. Have fun! 8)
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Reputable by who, YOU? the FDA?? ???
"clones" huh? That means they are complete rip offs. dangerous and will mess you up worse than you realize. Have fun! 8)
but b he sells supplements for a living so therefore that makes him an expert hands down even though he has no personal experience to speak of with anything except maybe an eight ball
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but b he sells supplements for a living so therefore that makes him an expert hands down even though he has no personal experience to speak of with anything except maybe an eight ball
Yeah, sure .....
Just trying to say that anyone can make a pro hormone now adays.
I might just whip some up in my bath tub tonight, bottle them and voila! Make some quick cash, have the FDA shut me down, but who cares, I just made a ton of money on easy prey with my far fetched advertising...Instantant ly becoming reputable! :-\
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Well a bottle of tren runs say 65 average at most places, a bottle lasts a month doesn't seem too steep to me. A full 8 week cycle of tren and mass with PCT of estro and viraloid might set you back 300 and you stand to gain 15 or so pounds of keepable muscle mass. Few if any legit STEROID cycles can offer that and they'll cost twice as much.
Just sayin...
Hey Mike, What do you recommend taking when coming off? I been on Tren for about 6 weeks now as well as Stanz. I want to come off but not sure what to take. Could you point me the right way? I have a bottle of Estro Extreme but also think i need other stuff including things in order to get my balls back to work. Also, do you ship? Is so i will PM you and hopefully i can order the recommended stuff through you. Thanks.
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no fast acton labs is a reputable company with good products. they sell a tren clone, a superdrol clone, a halodrol clone, a couple really good fat burners, and that m1dt i referenced.
Their products have been lab tested and do meet lable claims BUT keep an eye on them. Smallish companies like that have a tendency to produce great products early on, and then cut ingrediants before they jump ship. Think yellow bullets, little fuckers were great for a while and the last 2 batches had no ephedrine and I had 20 people return the fucking things. When evo labs products comes back out I think this week they will be good purchases. They're second to ACL for prohormones IMO.
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Hey Mike, What do you recommend taking when coming off? I been on Tren for about 6 weeks now as well as Stanz. I want to come off but not sure what to take. Could you point me the right way? I have a bottle of Estro Extreme but also think i need other stuff including things in order to get my balls back to work. Also, do you ship? Is so i will PM you and hopefully i can order the recommended stuff through you. Thanks.
Take the estro 4 pills a day 2 in the morn 2 about 8 hours later for a couple weeks, then taper off. I highly recommend viraloid for post cycle, it gets your balls back online plus it resensitises your AR receptors and helps a lot with keeping size post cycle. Feel free to PM.
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So again, anybody know if any of these products are gonna be at the Arnold Classic?
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So again, anybody know if any of these products are gonna be at the Arnold Classic?
Doubt it. Try their website and ask them.
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So again, anybody know if any of these products are gonna be at the Arnold Classic?
Whenever I've seen PH's at the Arnold they seem to sell really fast. I remember when my friends raided legal gear's both when they were selling methy 1 t for 20 bones a bottle when they came out with it.
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Take the estro 4 pills a day 2 in the morn 2 about 8 hours later for a couple weeks, then taper off. I highly recommend viraloid for post cycle, it gets your balls back online plus it resensitises your AR receptors and helps a lot with keeping size post cycle. Feel free to PM.
You got PM. PM me your store # if you can. I would like to come pick these up
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Their products have been lab tested and do meet lable claims BUT keep an eye on them. Smallish companies like that have a tendency to produce great products early on, and then cut ingrediants before they jump ship. Think yellow bullets, little fuckers were great for a while and the last 2 batches had no ephedrine and I had 20 people return the fucking things. When evo labs products comes back out I think this week they will be good purchases. They're second to ACL for prohormones IMO.
Are you telling me you have a certificate from ACL that all of their products are tested??? Stop by. Maurice Sandoval has some photoshopped certs. I call BS on that one.
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Swole, where is your store in SoCal? Maybe I can drive to it. I'm in soCal as well. Can you PM me. I'm interested in this cycle as well.
Quick question to you and Mike. So I hear about 15 pound gains but how much fat are these people gaining? Do you need to eat like a horse? If I'm starting my 12-16 week cut down diet will this cycle be a waste of money since I'm not eating as much as I did this past winter?
Thanks
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Swole, where is your store in SoCal? Maybe I can drive to it. I'm in soCal as well. Can you PM me. I'm interested in this cycle as well.
Quick question to you and Mike. So I hear about 15 pound gains but how much fat are these people gaining? Do you need to eat like a horse? If I'm starting my 12-16 week cut down diet will this cycle be a waste of money since I'm not eating as much as I did this past winter?
Thanks
bro im sure everyone here will tell you, you gotta eat big to get big...but honestly if you do take this stack while dieting im not sure but it might help keep your strength up that you would be bound to lsoe due to dieting...i would actually like to know how you make out if you decide to try that...you definetly wont blow up since your cutting but you might be able to keep the strength up...good luck. and im interested in what mike and swole says?
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American Cellular is definetly legit all their products are the real deal and infact they have a new anti out called HMG that many feel is as close to the real deal as ever before. My store carries the full line and I have tried each one their definetly legit.
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Swole, Mike, where you guys at? Need some info on this product. thx.
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From what I've researched, this product is solely sold through ACL. I sent them an email three days ago and got no response. Maybe it's sold somewhere else but I didn't find it. All of the recommended sites do not have it.
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From what I've researched, this product is solely sold through ACL. I sent them an email three days ago and got no response. Maybe it's sold somewhere else but I didn't find it. All of the recommended sites do not have it.
No internet stores, only Max Muscles and their web site, :-\
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No internet stores, only Max Muscles and their web site, :-\
swole and mike claim that they have stores that sell it but they aren't responding.
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If you look at the ingredients behind ACL they are just using basic compounds. There is nothing special with their tren opposed to anyone elses. Its all 19-Nor but some companies do spike their stuff. ACL Sells to anyone and everyone. Try Max Muscle in Rancho Cucamonga I hear they have a good selection for Tren related products.
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Swole, Mike, where you guys at? Need some info on this product. thx.
What do you need to know?
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Take the estro 4 pills a day 2 in the morn 2 about 8 hours later for a couple weeks, then taper off. I highly recommend viraloid for post cycle, it gets your balls back online plus it resensitises your AR receptors and helps a lot with keeping size post cycle. Feel free to PM.
Hey Mike, i been doing waht you have said. But i got acneeee badd man. Is there anything else i can take instead? Maybe Novadex? Please let me know...this ish is making me look like a pepperoni pizza!
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Hey Mike, i been doing waht you have said. But i got acneeee badd man. Is there anything else i can take instead? Maybe Novadex? Please let me know...this ish is making me look like a pepperoni pizza!
How much tren did you take, how long? Did you get any gains? How old are you? These questions will help anyone wanting to try. As for acne.
Take superhot showers, exfoliate to death and use a good Benadyl Peroxide solution. Retin A if you live close to mexico and can get it.