I live in No. Cali. between SF and Sac. i regularly go into the valley on business into Stockton, Modesto, Fresno etc.... So i see much of the same things you do.
We cannot in good conscience force children/parents to make a choice like that. We must give them an opportunity to raise their children with out us deporting them. If that means they pay fines or taxes to stay here without the parents getting automatic citizenship then w/e.
Fact is, we have enabled this problem to continue with or blind eye policies for the past few years.
You cannot indirectly provide "crime causing avenues" then unilaterally punish whole groups for taking advantage of the "freedom" we have.
OK. I understand what you're seeing. What you see is the farm laborers, who are here working hard and trying to make a living. I have been around that area and seen many of these guys. They are an issue, but they aren't like the majority we have in SoCal. I'l explain, we don't have the farms and acreage that you do up there. The guys we are dealing with down here are the ones who stand at the Home Depot parking lot, hassling people on the way to their cars. Or the ones who stand in the middles of the median on the road selling flowers, grapes, oranges, lemons, watches, etc,etc........ Not to mention the ones that just kind of wonder around begging in grocery store parking lots, reaking of alcohol.......
If you do see these things Ozmo, I doubt it is to the same degree that we down here see them. If you had to live in this area and deal with these events on a daily basis for years on end, maybe you would understand the animosity that comes across in some of my posts.