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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: IZO on August 12, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
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Using AAS around 1,5 years just went off 2-3 months, never did Any PCT.
Using Test E as base, other compounds as Deca, dbol, tren and Winstrol also used.
slightly testicle shrinkage.
Last injection Test E 250mg was 2 weeks ago, doing blood sample this week.
PCT Plan:
Week 1: 1000IU HCG 3x weekly
Week 2: 1000IU HCG 3x weekly
Week 3: 1000IU HCG 3x weekly
After HCG, 3 Weeks with 50mg Clomid daily.
Wonder what your thoughts are about this PCT protocol?
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How long you staying off for?... I've used a similar protocol and to be honest the most id do nowerdays is nolva for a few weeks, if anything at all.... Its all in the mind and the longer get you stay off you will normalise anyway
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Hi
Planing to stay off at least 6 months.
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Do 500 iu of HCG eod for 21 days, 40 mg of nolvadex with it, 1 mg of Adex eod, all for 21 days. Then clomid 100mg for 1 week, then 50 mg for 1 week.
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How long you staying off for?... I've used a similar protocol and to be honest the most id do nowerdays is nolva for a few weeks, if anything at all.... Its all in the mind and the longer get you stay off you will normalise anyway
6 months to a year.
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Do 500 iu of HCG eod for 21 days, 40 mg of nolvadex with it, 1 mg of Adex eod, all for 21 days. Then clomid 100mg for 1 week, then 50 mg for 1 week.
Thanks, Will start with 500IU HCG eod, increase to 1000IU if nothing is happening down there:)
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6 months to a year.
If you have the hcg and chlomid already just run it as you described... At the end of the day it doesn't matter, all the pct does is cushion your fall.. You have to lower your expectations on appearance and performance/enjoyment in the gym
Takes a long time to enjoy training clean...
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If you have the hcg and chlomid already just run it as you described... At the end of the day it doesn't matter, all the pct does is cushion your fall.. You have to lower your expectations on appearance and performance/enjoyment in the gym
Takes a long time to enjoy training clean...
Thanks for the tips!
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If you have the hcg and chlomid already just run it as you described... At the end of the day it doesn't matter, all the pct does is cushion your fall.. You have to lower your expectations on appearance and performance/enjoyment in the gym
Takes a long time to enjoy training clean...
Are you using any supplements like Test boosters, DAA, Tribulus?
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Nah, off is off for me... I still eat properly and put the same time in at the gym, I'm toying with having a long break right now, I havnt been able to get my head back into it since I peaked for my holls a few weeks back, I've missed nearly 3 weeks of shots etc etc
So its either blast or clean out...
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Admire you for going off.
What's braught this along by the way?
Is it just you want to give your body a break.
I'm not sure I could do this without gear.
Only thing that's always in the back if my mind is having kids.
I've become a lot more liberal with my use and expectations.
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Admire you for going off.
What's braught this along by the way?
Is it just you want to give your body a break.
I'm not sure I could do this without gear.
Only thing that's always in the back if my mind is having kids.
I've become a lot more liberal with my use and expectations.
Thanks!!
Was on AAS almost 2 years, felt that my body needs a break from everything, dident respond as good as before. My weight was 68kg before now i am around 93kg 8% bf so its good for me.
I am doing my workouts everyday, just not that intense, feels OK.
Also planing to have kids :)
After my break i will start with HGH and keep on going:)
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I've been off for 6 month. Zero, gonna do my bloodwork this week. I was on for 5 yrs straight.
PS, FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT!!
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I've been off for 6 month. Zero, gonna do my bloodwork this week. I was on for 5 yrs straight.
PS, FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT!!
It gets better.. Long as you don't let your self get fat, I started to enjoy the gym around the 6 month odd mark, it's nice to know you aren't dependant on gear for all your strength and size, and pumped you still look good
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Can imagine it feeling shit
Comming of long term gear and staying dedicated is an achievement in it's self
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Its important to traing, eat and sleep as before even if its much harder.
I am doing more cardio now and i feel much better, gym workout 3 Times' weekly not that intense as before but it feels ok.
I have also started to use Arginine and Beta alanine+ bcaa and It helps me a lot, nerver used Arginine and beta alanine before.
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Its important to traing, eat and sleep as before even if its much harder.
I am doing more cardio now and i feel much better, gym workout 3 Times' weekly not that intense as before but it feels ok.
I have also started to use Arginine and Beta alanine+ bcaa and It helps me a lot, nerver used Arginine and beta alanine before.
Nice, I eat very well and take a stack of vitamins. Doing long hikes as I don't like to do cardio in the gym.
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What's the lowest dose anavar can someone run without suppressing T?
I've always wanted to do hgh plus anavar so I wouldn't suppress my test levels as I plan on being off for at least 6 months...
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Nothing
Because 10mg will be a Waste of money
If your comming off stay off
Can use, pep, hgh, insulin
N that's it if your trying to recover
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anavar and dbol are roids too
they shut you down just like tren...
whats so hard to understand lol
10mg a day is more than you produce naturally = shut down.
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I've been off for 6 month. Zero, gonna do my bloodwork this week. I was on for 5 yrs straight.
PS, FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT!!
What made you come to this decision? I've been thinking about going clean for a while now but honestly I just don't look and feel the same. Blood levels were at 300ish before running anything anyways. Just feel like my hormones are out of whack when it comes to certain things. Wood is not the same as it used to be even with cialis sometimes. Not sure where along the line I messed up but even masteron won't give me the same effect as it did before horny 24/7 crazy good wood. Maybe it was a blast I ran for 8 weeks and finished about 3 months ago, 1.4g tren ace 700mg mast prop 700mg test prop 1g eq 100mg dbol.
Dropped down to just test 750mgs and deca 600mgs still doesn't feel "right". Added in caber .5mg e3d and arimidex .5mg eod hopefully it helps... Gotta run bloods soon and figure this shit out. When I ran my first cycle onwards it was the best now 2-3 years down the line I'll barely get a chub more than twice a day if that. First run with test and tren no issues at all... Ran deca for the first time a while ago with test and nandrolone has just always fkd me up one way or the other.
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I notice what u notice bro
Nothing works like it used to
Horn isn't there hardly atall
Think I probably wank once a week max now
My dick isn't as hard but it is first thing in the morning still
But if people said to me, you will look like ur gna look but ur gna need Viagra for sex
If take it tmoz
I'm well and truley addicted to steroids
That's why I respect this guy so much, comming off is hard
Hell most people think I'm mad getting the sever abcess I got
And jumping back on 2 months later
I think I'm mad too, but steroids make me happy hahaha
And isn't life about happiness if it's not hurting anyone else
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What made you come to this decision? I've been thinking about going clean for a while now but honestly I just don't look and feel the same. Blood levels were at 300ish before running anything anyways. Just feel like my hormones are out of whack when it comes to certain things. Wood is not the same as it used to be even with cialis sometimes. Not sure where along the line I messed up but even masteron won't give me the same effect as it did before horny 24/7 crazy good wood. Maybe it was a blast I ran for 8 weeks and finished about 3 months ago, 1.4g tren ace 700mg mast prop 700mg test prop 1g eq 100mg dbol.
Dropped down to just test 750mgs and deca 600mgs still doesn't feel "right". Added in caber .5mg e3d and arimidex .5mg eod hopefully it helps... Gotta run bloods soon and figure this shit out. When I ran my first cycle onwards it was the best now 2-3 years down the line I'll barely get a chub more than twice a day if that. First run with test and tren no issues at all... Ran deca for the first time a while ago with test and nandrolone has just always fkd me up one way or the other.
Health, plus my girl and I are gonna work on kids....this is not easy, but im still at clean.
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I've been off for 6 month. Zero, gonna do my bloodwork this week. I was on for 5 yrs straight.
PS, FEEL LIKE ABSOLUTE FUCKING SHIT!!
What kind of PCT did you do?
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What kind of PCT did you do?
Cold turkey, did not do pct.... :(
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Ima have my blood work done tomorrow. After I look at the horrible results, I will jump on arimadex and clomid.
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And 2 ius of hgh, them test again in a month.
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I always heard not to use an ai with clomid...
Google dr scally pct protocol, it actually has science behind it
Do you know your sperm count? Mine was almost zero on cycle, but if yours is high, prop be high on HRt doses
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testing right after a month on clomid may give a false value instead of an accurate indication of your test levels.
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I always heard not to use an ai with clomid...
Google dr scally pct protocol, it actually has science behind it
Do you know your sperm count? Mine was almost zero on cycle, but if yours is high, prop be high on HRt doses
I'm not gonna do a sperm count yet.
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I just wanna see what 25mg of clomid, 1mg of arimadex and 2ius of hgh will make me feel like after 6 weeks and what my blood work will look like.
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I always heard not to use an ai with clomid...
Google dr scally pct protocol, it actually has science behind it
Do you know your sperm count? Mine was almost zero on cycle, but if yours is high, prop be high on HRt doses
I've read run estrogen blockers with clomid.
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I've read run estrogen blockers with clomid.
Yes estrogen blockers not aromatase inhibitors
Why not jump on scaly pct protocol? I've done it, 7 weeks off now, and actually feel pretty decent
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wat?
clomid IS an "estrogen blocker" (lol at that wording though).
SERMS = block estrogen receptors = nolva, clomid, ralox etc
AIs= actually reduce estrogen = adex, letro, aromasin
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OK first post here
I was on for 2.5 years perma blast. Gram of tren and 1250 test 95% of the time plus a lot of anadrol and dbol. I cruised on 750 test.
I came off at the start of the year using the following protocol
4 weeks of hcg at 1500iu eod
then after that did 60iu of hmg eod for 20 days
4 days of nothing then
clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
Before PCT sperm count was 0 i mean nothing
6 weeks after pct sperm count was 108mill per ml
libido is only just coming back now 6 months later but is still not what it used to be.
Test levels are back in range but still feel pretty flat.
I only came off due to trying to have a baby with the wife which we are still trying for.
Aggressive PCT but it did work according to blood tests and semen tests.
I have lost a lot of size and strength but you are going to get that. I was more worried about getting fat rather than loosing muscle.
There is hope guys
Still hanging to get back on
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OK first post here
I was on for 2.5 years perma blast. Gram of tren and 1250 test 95% of the time plus a lot of anadrol and dbol. I cruised on 750 test.
I came off at the start of the year using the following protocol
4 weeks of hcg at 1500iu eod
then after that did 60iu of hmg eod for 20 days
4 days of nothing then
clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
Before PCT sperm count was 0 i mean nothing
6 weeks after pct sperm count was 108mill per ml
libido is only just coming back now 6 months later but is still not what it used to be.
Test levels are back in range but still feel pretty flat.
I only came off due to trying to have a baby with the wife which we are still trying for.
Aggressive PCT but it did work according to blood tests and semen tests.
I have lost a lot of size and strength but you are going to get that. I was more worried about getting fat rather than loosing muscle.
There is hope guys
Still hanging to get back on
Solid first post, welcome!!!
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OK first post here
I was on for 2.5 years perma blast. Gram of tren and 1250 test 95% of the time plus a lot of anadrol and dbol. I cruised on 750 test.
I came off at the start of the year using the following protocol
4 weeks of hcg at 1500iu eod
then after that did 60iu of hmg eod for 20 days
4 days of nothing then
clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
Before PCT sperm count was 0 i mean nothing
6 weeks after pct sperm count was 108mill per ml
libido is only just coming back now 6 months later but is still not what it used to be.
Test levels are back in range but still feel pretty flat.
I only came off due to trying to have a baby with the wife which we are still trying for.
Aggressive PCT but it did work according to blood tests and semen tests.
I have lost a lot of size and strength but you are going to get that. I was more worried about getting fat rather than loosing muscle.
There is hope guys
Still hanging to get back on
Damn man! Good luck with the baby! Both my kids were conceived while I was on a cycle but not those dosages lol
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OK first post here
I was on for 2.5 years perma blast. Gram of tren and 1250 test 95% of the time plus a lot of anadrol and dbol. I cruised on 750 test.
I came off at the start of the year using the following protocol
4 weeks of hcg at 1500iu eod
then after that did 60iu of hmg eod for 20 days
4 days of nothing then
clomid 100/100/50/50 nolva 40/40/20/20
Before PCT sperm count was 0 i mean nothing
6 weeks after pct sperm count was 108mill per ml
libido is only just coming back now 6 months later but is still not what it used to be.
Test levels are back in range but still feel pretty flat.
I only came off due to trying to have a baby with the wife which we are still trying for.
Aggressive PCT but it did work according to blood tests and semen tests.
I have lost a lot of size and strength but you are going to get that. I was more worried about getting fat rather than loosing muscle.
There is hope guys
Still hanging to get back on
Keep this updated if you can.
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Will keep it updated but apart from libido I'm fully recovered which has been confirmed via bloods and semen analysis. I truely believe hmg is what did it
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Will keep it updated but apart from libido I'm fully recovered which has been confirmed via bloods and semen analysis. I truely believe hmg is what did it
What hmg did u use? How come I never heard of this for PCT??? Was it an injectible?
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I got it from my dr. Fertilty clinics will have it. It's hcg sister drug human menopausal gonadotropin
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clomid 150,150,100,100,70,35
Nolva 60, 60, 40, 40, 20, 10
(these are by weeks)
Do not use HCG as it further suppresses HTPA and should have been used ON CYCLE while you were cycling...None of Rich Piana's balonie works and rich piana is never off....Would not run an AI during this time either especially something like letro or arimidex with a rebound gyno effect...
After you've done this 6 week period, you should continue to eat and workout for another 2 months and THEN get bloodwork to see where your levels are at...If you get bloodwork too soon your levels may still be elevated from the serms
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I beg to differ. from the above. I have successfully recovered using my above protocol and have successfully got my wife pregnant. That was after some pretty bad test/tren/oral abuse and never used HCG once while i was on. Once i stopped gear i started HCG with the above.