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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: chainsaw on June 26, 2008, 05:46:41 AM
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Guy A and B had bloodwork done.
Guy A has very little test maybe a 200 on a scale of 250-850 to be normal.
and Guy B has test levels of 650 on that same scale.
Guy A takes testosterone to get his circulating blood levels to read 600
But not a drop more.
I guy A a juicer?
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Id say yes, he isn't relying on his god given talents to succeed, I think he certainly would be a classed a cheater in Athletics for example.
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Hi Guy A!
:D
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Yes, he is. Anyone (not only bodybuilders and athletes) who, even for medical reasons, uses synthetic hormones is juicing. It has nothing to do with cheating as it is not done necessarily in order to enhance performances. If you're on hormonal treatment, you're no longer "natural". As simple as that.
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Yes, he is. Anyone (not only bodybuilders and athletes) who, even for medical reasons, uses synthetic hormones is juicing. It has nothing to do with cheating as it is not done necessarily in order to enhance performances. If you're on hormonal treatment, you're no longer "natural". As simple as that.
Yep!
Hi Guy A!
:D
100 % spot on
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Hi Guy A!
:D
Hello back. ;D
I'm not afraid to admit it, this is the
reason they invented this medicine.
Does anyone really think Lance Armstrong,
had testicular cancer, and doesn't take test?
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Hello back. ;D
BTW, "question for naturals" is NOT a question, so you do not need the question marks.
idiot.
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Thanks for the puncuation lesson Donkey,
I'll take note on that.
Instead of ridiculing, ya'll should answer
the question.
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Guy A and B had bloodwork done.
Guy A has very little test maybe a 200 on a scale of 250-850 to be normal.
and Guy B has test levels of 650 on that same scale.
Guy A takes testosterone to get his circulating blood levels to read 600
But not a drop more.
I guy A a juicer?
Is "guy B" the 280lb monster that posted last night about his blood work?
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Thanks for the puncuation lesson Donkey,
I'll take note on that.
you're welcome.
It's never to late to learn.
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Is "guy B" the 280lb monster that posted last night about his blood work?
No, its a hypothetical. Since I do have low Test,
I'am guy A.
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No, its a hypothetical. Since I do have low Test,
I'am guy A.
If you want to juice, go for it.
Personally, i don't think all the risk (legally and healthwise, socially and whatever) is worth it all.
Even with lower test, you can build a good body, it will just take longer.
First questions should rather be: Is your diet in check? No deficiency in something? Do you get enough sleep? Sexual problems? etc...
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If you want to juice, go for it.
Personally, i don't think all the risk (legally and healthwise, socially and whatever) is worth it all.
Even with lower test, you can build a good body, it will just take longer.
First questions should rather be: Is your diet in check? No deficiency in something? Do you get enough sleep? Sexual problems? etc...
I'm strict with the diet, but I have low bone density I think due
to the low test. I have stress fractures in my feet from running,
so at this point, a little to bring blood levels up to normal for
a while is a good idea. I was not healing properly from my training,
and very very lethargic.
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First, you should see an endocrinologist before you start self-medicating. Second, for people with low hormone levels, there are ways to train and eat which can improve your siuation. Of course, it's much more difficult and it takes longer than sticking a needle in your butt.
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There is a difference between someone running massive supraphysiological doses of test + other compounds and a guy using HRT to achieve normal levels.
For those that disagree... see you in 10 or 15 years. ;)
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Natural release of test is optimal. It trickles out in the blood stream. It's been perfected through long time evolution. Once a week dose is not optimal and look for your balls to shrivel away.
Hope this helps.
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If you inject then yes you're a juicer
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Natural release of test is optimal. It trickles out in the blood stream. It's been perfected through long time evolution. Once a week dose is not optimal and look for your balls to shrivel away.
Hope this helps.
He says he isn't 'releasing' enough naturally. That's the point. When you can follow the thread, then you can try to help.
Excessively low T is bad for male health. If HRT is genuinely theraputic (according to your doctor), it would be foolish to refuse it because of the stigma of "being a juicer." ::) You guys would refuse a blood transfusion if you were bleeding to death because you don't want to "cheat?"
Of course, if it's not medically indicated and you just want to juice, then just admit that you're considering juicing.
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yes.
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Juicing is taking anabolic steroids in amounts greater than what is possible naturally in order to facilitate faster muscle mass and strength gains.
If you are injecting testosterone prescribed by a doctor to bring your levels up to the average natural male testosterone level, then you are not really 'juicing' or a 'juicer'.
Is someone taking painkillers prescribed by a doctor to deal with pain during and after surgery a 'junkie'.
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Is someone taking painkillers prescribed by a doctor to deal with pain during and after surgery a 'junkie'.
That would be a user too. A "junkie" would take them if he had no pain.
If you are taking test you are using test... simple.