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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: DS Phil Hunter on March 27, 2023, 11:20:05 AM
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
My question goes to personal trainers and former personal trainers/strength coaches and if they have had more than 15-20 years plus in the job and now with the prevalence of Instagram, YouTube and social media if they have been able to compete and keep up with the trends? I am guessing for gym owners and staff things have changed significantly since the 1980s, 1990s and even early 2000s and how they have survived? There is a argument that why hire a PT if you can learn how to program your training and work out your macro nutrients and calories etc yourself? the other side of the argument is that PT's provide an valuable service and their work is impactful etc. What are you experiences as PT working in gyms and/or opinions of PT's in general?
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I don't think the internets can replace in-person rep counting for fat people by PTs now or in the future.
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Vince Goodrum, with his CSN MFT credentials and industry knowledge can provide you with an informed opinion.
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
My question goes to personal trainers and former personal trainers/strength coaches and if they have had more than 15-20 years plus in the job and now with the prevalence of Instagram, YouTube and social media if they have been able to compete and keep up with the trends? I am guessing for gym owners and staff things have changed significantly since the 1980s, 1990s and even early 2000s and how they have survived? There is a argument that why hire a PT if you can learn how to program your training and work out your macro nutrients and calories etc yourself? the other side of the argument is that PT's provide an valuable service and their work is impactful etc. What are you experiences as PT working in gyms and/or opinions of PT's in general?
There will always be a need for PT's. The typical person (general clientele) who have regular jobs, families, etc generally won't take the time to research how to put a program together or get an in-depth knowledge of nutrition. Being an actual strength coach (strength and conditioning coach) is an entirely different world that just being a personal trainer.
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I did PT for extra money years ago. Was ok - but my own training suffered greatly. Got sick of being in the gym after awhile .
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Enroll all the homeless around Golds Gym/LA in PT certification classes.
Charles Glass can be the instructor.
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If I recall correctly Charles asked like 200 bucks/hour. All lifting 45s to machines and counting to 12.
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I did PT for extra money years ago. Was ok - but my own training suffered greatly. Got sick of being in the gym after awhile .
I was the Director Of Personal Training at Fitness America (now Busy Body Fitness) you get sick of being in the gym all the time ... so your own fitness goals and training go in the shitter! ( In addition to training clients I had to oversee the staff of around 10-12 personal trainers ) I need a straight "9-5 job" with a steady paycheck and set hours! ( I was in the gym at all times of day and night)
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I was the Director Of Personal Training at Fitness America (now Busy Body Fitness) you get sick of being in the gym all the time ... so your own fitness goals and training go in the shitter! ( In addition to training clients I had to oversee the staff of around 10-12 personal trainers ) I need a straight "9-5 job" with a steady paycheck and set hours! ( I was in the gym at all times of day and night)
i competed in the Canadians in 1991 and bought a gym 8 months later. that was the last contest i ever trained serious for.
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i competed in the Canadians in 1991 and bought a gym 8 months later. that was the last contest i ever trained serious for.
it's the worst man! I literally lost my love for the gym (because I was always there)
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it's the worst man! I literally lost my love for the gym (because I was always there)
likewise brother
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likewise brother
Everyone is like "Bro you should buy a gym!" They don't understand that my love for training supercedes my potentially making a few dollars from a gym. And you here this by many many people. Even the trainers where I go say their own fitness and training suffers from always being there.
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Currently, it be a decent side hustle to make pocket money, but as a career, nah.
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Everyone is like "Bro you should buy a gym!" They don't understand that my love for training supercedes my potentially making a few dollars from a gym. And you here this by many many people. Even the trainers where I go say their own fitness and training suffers from always being there.
100% i competed off and on til 2007 but my heart was not in it after i purchased the gym in 1992. went from feeling excitement walking through the door to dread.
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Shit, dead end career.
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Usually have the worst cars in the gym parking lot. Not that cars automatically mean wealth status, but I’ve noticed this unless they’re former pros and/or slinging anabolics. I’d do it part-time if I had the time, but I prefer to spend it on Getbig instead
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Usually have the worst cars in the gym parking lot. Not that cars automatically mean wealth status, but I’ve noticed this unless they’re former pros and/or slinging anabolics. I’d do it part-time if I had the time, but I prefer to spend it on Getbig instead
Darrem C. drives a beater.
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If I ever did PT I would spend 2 hours with them, one hour training and one hour diet
After that there really isnt anything they need unless they decide to go the drug route later on.
Anyone who needs constant baby sitting and a rep counter isnt going to amount to anything anyway.
If you have no internal motivation you are fucked.
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If I ever did PT I would spend 2 hours with them, one hour training and one hour diet
After that there really isnt anything they need unless they decide to go the drug route later on.
Anyone who needs constant baby sitting and a rep counter isnt going to amount to anything anyway.
If you have no internal motivation you are fucked.
It's all middle aged housewives who want to tell you all their secrets ...desires and thoughts lol (seriously tho it's mostly middle aged woman who's husbands make too much money and they are glad to pay you to entertain their wives and give them a break!)
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Did it for 2 decades off and on......I felt like a psychologist in some cases.
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Did it for 2 decades off and on......I felt like a psychologist in some cases.
I did it part time in the late 80s.
Nothing has changed. They all act as though they’ve reinvented the wheel and pretend they’re training serious athletes when the client base is mainly bored housewives.
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Darrem C. drives a beater.
No way. I always saw him with lovely automobiles
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The certifications are always good for a chuckle. You could just pull four letters out of a hat, and nobody would know the difference.
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
My question goes to personal trainers and former personal trainers/strength coaches and if they have had more than 15-20 years plus in the job and now with the prevalence of Instagram, YouTube and social media if they have been able to compete and keep up with the trends? I am guessing for gym owners and staff things have changed significantly since the 1980s, 1990s and even early 2000s and how they have survived? There is a argument that why hire a PT if you can learn how to program your training and work out your macro nutrients and calories etc yourself? the other side of the argument is that PT's provide an valuable service and their work is impactful etc. What are you experiences as PT working in gyms and/or opinions of PT's in general?
I wouldn’t equate these two professions.
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It's all middle aged housewives who want to tell you all their secrets ...desires and thoughts lol (seriously tho it's mostly middle aged woman who's husbands make too much money and they are glad to pay you to entertain their wives and give them a break!)
For some of those folks I think it’s also a status symbol.
“I’ve got a trainer” “My trainer says…” etc.
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Lots of hours at the gym for little pay. Charles Glass is one of the best and isn't he homeless? To be really successful it would help to have a gimmick like Peter C. Siegel's hypnosis stuff for clients.
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
My question goes to personal trainers and former personal trainers/strength coaches and if they have had more than 15-20 years plus in the job and now with the prevalence of Instagram, YouTube and social media if they have been able to compete and keep up with the trends? I am guessing for gym owners and staff things have changed significantly since the 1980s, 1990s and even early 2000s and how they have survived? There is a argument that why hire a PT if you can learn how to program your training and work out your macro nutrients and calories etc yourself? the other side of the argument is that PT's provide an valuable service and their work is impactful etc. What are you experiences as PT working in gyms and/or opinions of PT's in general?
Who talks like this? I stopped reading.
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I wouldn’t equate these two professions.
I have worked as a strength and conditioning coach too for institutions and sports clubs but the point is career wise are they sustainable?
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Who talks like this? I stopped reading.
It was an introduction. Nice to meet you to sir.
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There will always be a need for PT's. The typical person (general clientele) who have regular jobs, families, etc generally won't take the time to research how to put a program together or get an in-depth knowledge of nutrition. Being an actual strength coach (strength and conditioning coach) is an entirely different world that just being a personal trainer.
Strength coaches have to deal with a whole load of politricks at institutions and sports clubs. Some sports coaches are great to get along with others not so much, also some the assistant coaches or head coaches can be a pain to work with at least with PT you only have to deal with the client and in most cases just pay your rent to the gym owner.
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I was the Director Of Personal Training at Fitness America (now Busy Body Fitness) you get sick of being in the gym all the time ... so your own fitness goals and training go in the shitter! ( In addition to training clients I had to oversee the staff of around 10-12 personal trainers ) I need a straight "9-5 job" with a steady paycheck and set hours! ( I was in the gym at all times of day and night)
I know a lot of people quit the fitness industry and go and get a standard issue job because typically you are working when everyone else isn't like early in the mornings, lunchtimes and after everyone else finishes work so you maybe in the gym from 7am in morning to 8 or 9pm in the evening and that doesn't include all the clients at the weekends!
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i competed in the Canadians in 1991 and bought a gym 8 months later. that was the last contest i ever trained serious for.
How long did you own your gym for?
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Usually have the worst cars in the gym parking lot. Not that cars automatically mean wealth status, but I’ve noticed this unless they’re former pros and/or slinging anabolics. I’d do it part-time if I had the time, but I prefer to spend it on Getbig instead
Ironically they make more money selling gear than do training people!
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Did it for 2 decades off and on......I felt like a psychologist in some cases.
Did you feel like you had any lasting impact on people's behavioural changes and habits? I know unless you get the client the results (if they really want to change) and they are just going through the motions it can be really frustrating!
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Darrem C. drives a beater.
An underrated bodybuilder if there ever was one. Him and Troy Alves.
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Lots of hours at the gym for little pay. Charles Glass is one of the best and isn't he homeless? To be really successful it would help to have a gimmick like Peter C. Siegel's hypnosis stuff for clients.
I didn't know he was homeless. I knew he competed and went out become Gold's Gym most sought after trainer. I do remember the articles he used to write in Robert Kennedy's Muscle Mag International.
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
Did it for 2 decades off and on......I felt like a psychologist in some cases.
^^^
Dude! (Since you've been picking up Whirlpool of C0ck duty I thought I'd catch this one above for you 8))
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Charles has a youtube channel and over 800k followers so you probably don't catch him living in the tent next to Golds ;D
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Taffy funny!
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It's all middle aged housewives who want to tell you all their secrets ...desires and thoughts lol (seriously tho it's mostly middle aged woman who's husbands make too much money and they are glad to pay you to entertain their wives and give them a break!)
QFT
When I did it, I would find ways to keep them moving literally the entire session so they would shut their yapping mouth. If they were too tired to do something like bodyweight calf raises, I’d have them stretch. Anything to keep them from talking
Anyways, in my experience it’s all about salesmanship. Take a great car salesman w a gut and put him on the gym floor and he’ll have more clients than the other trainers in short order. I’m not much of a salesman, hence I didn’t make much money with it.
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Did you feel like you had any lasting impact on people's behavioural changes and habits? I know unless you get the client the results (if they really want to change) and they are just going through the motions it can be really frustrating!
A few people stuck with it and made it their lifestyle....Hell if I know about the rest.
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Dave Mass was one of the earliest PT`s ever........per se`.
He trained Leonard Nimoy,Jane Fonda,and lots of others,known,and not so well known.
One lady he told me about was older and very wealthy.....Dave said she basically did nada,but loved to brag about having a PT.
Dave also told me this broad paid him very well......idiots!!
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WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME FUCKFACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111
^^^
Dude! (Since you've been picking up Whirlpool of C0ck duty I thought I'd catch this one above for you 8))
My nikka.....thanks brother.....I seldom miss one but it does happen on occasion.
Stay alert!! ;D
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I didn't know he was homeless. I knew he competed and went out become Gold's Gym most sought after trainer. I do remember the articles he used to write in Robert Kennedy's Muscle Mag International.
Hi Charles.
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Never enjoyed training people myself. One of the most boring things. Especially in the social media era where you have to whore yourself online to lure clients in. Despite the money being good everything else was a headache. And you get fed up with the gym as well. Makes you feel like a babysitter
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;D maybe me and Mr Glass are the only ones who remember him writing those articles! I think around 2001 or 2002 I used to buy a lot of Muscle Mag Internationals.
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I know a lot of people quit the fitness industry and go and get a standard issue job because typically you are working when everyone else isn't like early in the mornings, lunchtimes and after everyone else finishes work so you maybe in the gym from 7am in morning to 8 or 9pm in the evening and that doesn't include all the clients at the weekends!
Exactly what my godson has been complaining of. Got his license last November, started out with all the enthusiasm in the world, now he's looking to do something else. Early mornings, late nights, weekends, same basic stuff every day.....and he's really not making much money either.
better he worked this out at 18 than 35 I reckon.
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A guy who was at our gym for years training clients in the AM finally bailed, he's probably mid-30's.
Works in a prison now (screw) from what I'm told... I guess prisoners are less annoying than gym gen-pop...
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A guy who was at our gym for years training clients in the AM finally bailed, he's probably mid-30's.
Works in a prison now (screw) from what I'm told... I guess prisoners are less annoying than gym gen-pop...
Yeah, it’s not that most are unemployable. It’s just a bad career choice.
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I don't really get why people do it, both hire and become a trainer.
But I came to the conclusion that wimpy men who hire jacked bodybuilder types as trainers are 100% playing out their cuck/homo fantasies. Brad Rowe for example had some very "interesting" client interactions.
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Hi GetBig
I have been a lurker here for a while (years) and it took a long time for my profile to be approved so I missed the opportunity to contribute and participate in a lot of threads. So I thought I would start one.
My question goes to personal trainers and former personal trainers/strength coaches and if they have had more than 15-20 years plus in the job and now with the prevalence of Instagram, YouTube and social media if they have been able to compete and keep up with the trends? I am guessing for gym owners and staff things have changed significantly since the 1980s, 1990s and even early 2000s and how they have survived? There is a argument that why hire a PT if you can learn how to program your training and work out your macro nutrients and calories etc yourself? the other side of the argument is that PT's provide an valuable service and their work is impactful etc. What are you experiences as PT working in gyms and/or opinions of PT's in general?
You'd spend all the money you earn on clipboards and clown pants.
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QFT
When I did it, I would find ways to keep them moving literally the entire session so they would shut their yapping mouth. If they were too tired to do something like bodyweight calf raises, I’d have them stretch. Anything to keep them from talking
Anyways, in my experience it’s all about salesmanship. Take a great car salesman w a gut and put him on the gym floor and he’ll have more clients than the other trainers in short order. I’m not much of a salesman, hence I didn’t make much money with it.
Yup!! The gym owners didn't give one fuck how much weight my clients lost , or how they got off all their heart medications etc ..... all they cared about was " selling training packages (sessions) ...I'm not a salesmen ( actually hate salesmen) but that was a huge part of the job! It was high pressure also ( I remember an IFBB Pro who made a young girl cry because of the pressure he was putting on her to buy a package/ go out to her car and get her Credit card! ... it was sickening and I knew this wasn't for me! ) I actually genuinely liked helping people attain their fitness goals (losing weight mainly ) and was proud of them when they did so .... but the high pressure " sell sell sell" tactics just weren't for me .... that and spending too many hours in the gym daily told me I have to find another line of work!
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I don't really get why people do it, both hire and become a trainer.
But I came to the conclusion that wimpy men who hire jacked bodybuilder types as trainers are 100% playing out their cuck/homo fantasies. Brad Rowe for example had some very "interesting" client interactions.
I started weight training at age 12. The York Barbell course had posters with like 20 lifts to work the whole body on them. It took like 1/2 hour to learn the exercises. ::) I can not understand hiring someone to "teach" this.
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I started weight training at age 12. The York Barbell course had posters with like 20 lifts to work the whole body on them. It took like 1/2 hour to learn the exercises. ::) I can not understand hiring someone to "teach" this.
Whatever bro. You probably can't understand hiring a life coach either.
;D
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Whatever bro. You probably can't understand hiring a life coach either.
;D
:D There must be a million divorced, over 40, women who are life coaches usually with a cheap weebly website. I'm sure they have amazing insights I could learn to turn my life around.
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I started weight training at age 12. The York Barbell course had posters with like 20 lifts to work the whole body on them. It took like 1/2 hour to learn the exercises. ::) I can not understand hiring someone to "teach" this.
It's hard, man.
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Everyone is like "Bro you should buy a gym!" They don't understand that my love for training supercedes my potentially making a few dollars from a gym. And you here this by many many people. Even the trainers where I go say their own fitness and training suffers from always being there.
I used to get that my whole life. "Oh you should be a personal trainer." I couldn't think of anything I would hate more. I train for me and then I gtfo of the gym
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If I had millions to burn I’d open a gym just so I could enforce a draconian “CLEAN YOUR WEIGHTS UP” policy
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If I had millions to burn I’d open a gym just so I could enforce a draconian “CLEAN YOUR WEIGHTS UP” policy
Also a policy that the benches, etc, are for weightlifting, not for meditation or phone use.
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I'm willing to train people, anybody, for 20 bucks an hour, srs
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I'm willing to train people, anybody, for 20 bucks an hour, srs
My nikka
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Ive trained clients since 1992 in NYC I have seen a massive change in the industry when I was working PT
Was just starting I remember making 25 bucks an hour and I thought wow that's great money
Over the years I supported my family bought a house and own a gym all from being a successful trainer
I would say 90% of trainers cannot make enough money to do it full-time.
Social media isn't something I use and most of the successful trainers in my gym say it's not important to their business
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Golf lessons are $35-$50 for a half hour.
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My nikka
Bro...
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I’m pretty much unemployable so I’ve always had to work for myself mostly. I did in home personal training years ago and had a couple rich clients that paid me 200 per hour and would sometimes one would have his wife and kids join and he would pay me 800 per hour for 4 of them guy was worth hundred of millions. Another one was a gay guy and he would have his partner join once a week for 400 per hour. I was making a couple grand a week for just a few hours for about two years then got bored of it. In gym training I wouldn’t bother the gym owners make all the money it seems.
The guy that was married with kids would make deals with me first one was when he could bench 225 he would give me a 5k bonus, then when he hit 175 lean another 5k bonus, then when he benched 275 10k. He was a vegetarian marathon runner so it wasn’t easy but we hit all the goals and then some. He also got me a Rolex submariner as a Christmas bonus. Nice rich guy.
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I’m pretty much unemployable so I’ve always had to work for myself mostly. I did in home personal training years ago and had a couple rich clients that paid me 200 per hour and would sometimes one would have his wife and kids join and he would pay me 800 per hour for 4 of them guy was worth hundred of millions. Another one was a gay guy and he would have his partner join once a week for 400 per hour. I was making a couple grand a week for just a few hours for about two years then got bored of it. In gym training I wouldn’t bother the gym owners make all the money it seems.
The guy that was married with kids would make deals with me first one was when he could bench 225 he would give me a 5k bonus, then when he hit 175 lean another 5k bonus, then when he benched 275 10k. He was a vegetarian marathon runner so it wasn’t easy but we hit all the goals and then some. He also got me a Rolex submariner as a Christmas bonus. Nice rich guy.
Is that a thinly disguised G4P post?
;D
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Is that a thinly disguised G4P post?
;D
Hahaha,I was waiting for that. No neither of those guys offered but I was offered by a guy once to train him and I did and after the second time he asked if I would train arms naked while he jerked off and he would pay me 1000 a session. I said no.
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Cool, rob, except for the perv.
Glad you stayed pure.
:D
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If you look at it like a business, even if you don’t own a gym, treat it like any other business. You get out of it what you put in. I’ve done very well with it. Better than most.
$200k + is very doable. As for Charles. His rates very but the average is about $200 and he’s booked all day long 6-7 days a week.
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Hahaha,I was waiting for that. No neither of those guys offered but I was offered by a guy once to train him and I did and after the second time he asked if I would train arms naked while he jerked off and he would pay me 1000 a session. I said no.
I think you said ''yes''
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I think you said ''yes''
Hahaha, big P-dawg's in here swinging haymakers.
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I’m pretty much unemployable so I’ve always had to work for myself mostly. I did in home personal training years ago and had a couple rich clients that paid me 200 per hour and would sometimes one would have his wife and kids join and he would pay me 800 per hour for 4 of them guy was worth hundred of millions. Another one was a gay guy and he would have his partner join once a week for 400 per hour. I was making a couple grand a week for just a few hours for about two years then got bored of it. In gym training I wouldn’t bother the gym owners make all the money it seems.
The guy that was married with kids would make deals with me first one was when he could bench 225 he would give me a 5k bonus, then when he hit 175 lean another 5k bonus, then when he benched 275 10k. He was a vegetarian marathon runner so it wasn’t easy but we hit all the goals and then some. He also got me a Rolex submariner as a Christmas bonus. Nice rich guy.
$800 an hour? Why did you ever quit?
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Hahaha,I was waiting for that. No neither of those guys offered but I was offered by a guy once to train him and I did and after the second time he asked if I would train arms naked while he jerked off and he would pay me 1000 a session. I said no.
Rob, why did you say no?
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I’m pretty much unemployable so I’ve always had to work for myself mostly. I did in home personal training years ago and had a couple rich clients that paid me 200 per hour and would sometimes one would have his wife and kids join and he would pay me 800 per hour for 4 of them guy was worth hundred of millions. Another one was a gay guy and he would have his partner join once a week for 400 per hour. I was making a couple grand a week for just a few hours for about two years then got bored of it. In gym training I wouldn’t bother the gym owners make all the money it seems.
The guy that was married with kids would make deals with me first one was when he could bench 225 he would give me a 5k bonus, then when he hit 175 lean another 5k bonus, then when he benched 275 10k. He was a vegetarian marathon runner so it wasn’t easy but we hit all the goals and then some. He also got me a Rolex submariner as a Christmas bonus. Nice rich guy.
You told a funny story before about your dad asking you about one of your clients. Please tell it again. ;D
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Hahaha,I was waiting for that. No neither of those guys offered but I was offered by a guy once to train him and I did and after the second time he asked if I would train arms naked while he jerked off and he would pay me 1000 a session. I said no but eventually agreed on 1500.
fixed
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If you look at it like a business, even if you don’t own a gym, treat it like any other business. You get out of it what you put in. I’ve done very well with it. Better than most.
$200k + is very doable. As for Charles. His rates very but the average is about $200 and he’s booked all day long 6-7 days a week.
$200k+ is possible but “very doable” is underselling the difficulties associated with it. You’d have to be taking home $100 per hourly sessions, assuming you’re training 40hrs a week. At a gym the owner is gonna want their cut, so closer to a cost of $140+ Per session to the client. Are there that many people willing to pay $140/hr for personal training?
You see most credentialed trainers working for university or professional sports teams for a reason .. financial stability + benefits—neither of which come with the independent contractor employment under which personal trainers operate.
Assuming you train 40hrs a week, $200k would mean your take home per hourly session is $100. If you’re at a gym, the owner is gonna want his cut so that’s a cost to the client of at lleast $120.
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For $200k you'd need very high profile clients.
Maybe this is possible in very wealthy locales.
The average PT is working out of his local franchise gym with ordinary folks.
Private security guards can also make good money working for big shots.
Are you earning $200k from PT, Coach?
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$200k+ is possible but “very doable” is underselling the difficulties associated with it. You’d have to be taking home $100 per hourly sessions, assuming you’re training 40hrs a week. At a gym the owner is gonna want their cut, so closer to a cost of $140+ Per session to the client. Are there that many people willing to pay $140/hr for personal training?
You see most credentialed trainers working for university or professional sports teams for a reason .. financial stability + benefits—neither of which come with the independent contractor employment under which personal trainers operate.
Assuming you train 40hrs a week, $200k would mean your take home per hourly session is $100. If you’re at a gym, the owner is gonna want his cut so that’s a cost to the client of at lleast $120.
PTs I spoke to in the past were typically doing a lot more than 40 hours per week. They'd have blocks of morning clients from like 5am and then blocks late afternoon/evening clients. Middle of the day there might be the occasional client. Then there's weekends...
Long days and unsociable hours.
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$200k+ is possible but “very doable” is underselling the difficulties associated with it. You’d have to be taking home $100 per hourly sessions, assuming you’re training 40hrs a week. At a gym the owner is gonna want their cut, so closer to a cost of $140+ Per session to the client. Are there that many people willing to pay $140/hr for personal training?
You see most credentialed trainers working for university or professional sports teams for a reason .. financial stability + benefits—neither of which come with the independent contractor employment under which personal trainers operate.
Assuming you train 40hrs a week, $200k would mean your take home per hourly session is $100. If you’re at a gym, the owner is gonna want his cut so that’s a cost to the client of at lleast $120.
Respectfully, that’s not entirely accurate. Maybe in some areas, yes but in most it’s not at least not my area. Let’s say at the very least you’re charging $100 and running 8 clients a day five days a week.
100 x 8 = $800 x 5 = $4000 x 12 = $192k
Now for the OH. Gyms in my area that take outside contractors charge a flat fee. Usually between $600-800 Mo and you can have as many clients as you want. I’ll finish this in a bit
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Respectfully, that’s not entirely accurate. Maybe in some areas, yes but in most it’s not at least not my area. Let’s say at the very least you’re charging $100 and running 8 clients a day five days a week.
100 x 8 = $800 x 5 = $4000 x 12 = $192k
Now for the OH. Gyms in my area that take outside contractors charge a flat fee. Usually between $600-800 Mo and you can have as many clients as you want. I’ll finish this in a bit
The calculations need seem work too
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The calculations need seem work too
You mean there aren’t 48 weeks in a year?
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The calculations need seem work too
I wasn’t finished. I’m using voice to text right now so bear with me.
So that being said, in my last post, a lot of trainers, including myself at the time would train, doubles, husband and wife, partners, etc. that might be one or two sessions out of the day which would add an extra $200-$400 for that day love you do the calculations on that you’re still working a 40 hour week but your sessions increase. That would bring you up to I believe over 200,000 for that year or a year this is it uncommon and your overhead is still depending on the gym, six to 800 $ a month now if you go an extra day like most people do And you work let’s say the extra four sessions on a Saturday that’s what? An extra $400 for that week or an extra $1600 a month. Also a lot of trainers do online training on the side that could bring in quite a few extra dollars as well .
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You mean there aren’t 48 weeks in a year?
48 paid weeks per year might make sense for the purposes of a calculation as clients might take 2 weeks off for Xmas and 2 weeks for a summer holiday, but $4000 x 12 does not equal $192K
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48 paid weeks per year might make sense for the purposes of a calculation as clients might take 2 weeks off for Xmas and 2 weeks for a summer holiday, but $4000 x 12 does not equal $192K
Serious PTs don’t take days off! I thought it was a typo 12=52, but it could very well be him incorrectly using months instead of weeks. Either way, 4000x48 = 192K
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For me it's was a tough way to make a living! ( like someone stated long long hours at weird times /5 am ... 9pm and everything in between that! It was mostly a salesman position .. whoever can sell the biggest and most expensive training packages.....clients come and go .. you have good months/ you have bad months .. it's always a " hustle " sell sell sell! You get extremely tired of being in the gym all the time! .... weekends / holidays etc .. the clients needs come before yours so the next thing you know, you have put on some weight / have a " spare tire" around your middle .. or in my case you get skinny af ... no health insurance/ no dental / no 401 K / or retirement... I got to the point where I just wanted a steady paycheck and set hours! .. I could go to the gym for myself! And to me that meant everything!!
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The most I ever got was $45.00 per hour and the best deal I ever had was $500.00 a month " rent " to the gym and I could keep what ever I made .. the worst was at World Gym a 60/40 split with the $60 going to the gym and me selling training packages and the gym pocketing all the money and paying me in dribs and drabs by me filling out a sheet every time I trained a client and the gym paying me my 40% hour by hour! (And if the client stopped coming to the gym after purchasing like a $1500 dollar training package.. the gym kept all the money!)
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The most I ever got was $45.00 per hour and the best deal I ever had was $500.00 a month " rent " to the gym and I could keep what ever I made .. the worst was at World Gym a 60/40 split with the $60 going to the gym and me selling training packages and the gym pocketing all the money and paying me in dribs and drabs by me filling out a sheet every time I trained a client and the gym paying me my 40% hour by hour! (And if the client stopped coming to the gym after purchasing like a $1500 dollar training package.. the gym kept all the money!)
they would never get away with that here
As long as you pay to train they cant tell you what to do or claim any of your earnings
There are two PTs at our gym, they are both paid up members and they pay £5 a day for their clients
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they would never get away with that here
As long as you pay to train they cant tell you what to do or claim any of your earnings
There are two PTs at our gym, they are both paid up members and they pay £5 a day for their clients
That's how I moved to south Florida initially... a former Mr USA and IFBB Pro (retired) coaxed me down here to do personal training in the gyms he managed ... when I got here I realized what it actually was and it was very difficult to even earn a halfway decent income / living ...after a few years IFBB Pro Marty Vranicar made me the director of personal training at his gym (didn't have to pay him or the gym a dime) and that was great until he sold the gym ... and now it's " Busy Body Fitness" where I am just a member and very happy about it!
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$5 a day to train clients would have been a dream! Back when I was training people ....
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* plus now I get to see Rambone at the gym and we can gossip about Hankins for hours like two old broads!
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48 paid weeks per year might make sense for the purposes of a calculation as clients might take 2 weeks off for Xmas and 2 weeks for a summer holiday, but $4000 x 12 does not equal $192K
Oops, yes, I meant $4k a week = $16k Mo = $192k yr
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* plus now I get to see Rambone at the gym and we can gossip about Hankins for hours like two old broads!
Two really "hot" mature broads! ;D Give the bhanky some Hades, brother!
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Two really "hot" mature broads! ;D Give the bhanky some Hades, brother!
LOL! 🤘