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Title: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2006, 04:51:14 PM
mat is strong as hell...ive seen him do reps using the 190s for dumbell shoulder press.
::) ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Stavios on September 11, 2006, 04:54:41 PM
I doubt it but I am pretty sure Mat will answer this question himself

he always answer the questions about him
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2006, 04:55:49 PM
I doubt it but I am pretty sure Mat will answer this question himself

he always answer the questions about him
and a Pro bb'er would NEVER lie about their lifts, right? ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Blockhead on September 11, 2006, 04:57:04 PM
 No...not at all. Ronnie had a hard time with 160's and I'd reckon him being stronger than Mat.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2006, 04:57:55 PM
No...not at all. Ronnie had a hard time with 160's and I'd reckon him being stronger than Mat.
but Matt has the biggest, strongest arms in the world. ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Stavios on September 11, 2006, 04:58:25 PM
and a Pro bb'er would NEVER lie about their lifts, right? ::)

Well personnally I think shoulder pressing the 190s is a ridiculous claim so if he didn't do it I think he will set this straight
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Matt C on September 11, 2006, 05:08:09 PM
140s would be believable.  Even Ronnie only got six reps with the 160s.  Unless Mat has one freaky strong lift and does for delts what Bertil did for chest.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Bolo on September 11, 2006, 05:11:08 PM
I believe it.  I can do that 100s and im just the average weight lifter.  He is a pro who uses gear.....so he better be able to do around that much.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Blockhead on September 11, 2006, 05:11:44 PM
but Matt has the biggest, strongest arms in the world. ::)
I just thought of something...Mat uses celltech and I am sure he now uses anatorp70 and creacik and leucik...with stacking and using supplements backed by solid science like that...only the sky is the limit. I'm sure 190's is an understatement.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2006, 05:12:58 PM
I believe it.  I can do that 100s and im just the average weight lifter.  He is a pro who uses gear.....so he better be able to do around that much.
Ronnie only does the 160's for partials, care to take back your statement?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: younggunz on September 11, 2006, 05:17:30 PM
i can lift 95's for 7 reps and i only weigh 170lbs
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Bolo on September 11, 2006, 05:18:00 PM
Ronnie only does the 160's for partials, care to take back your statement?
ronnie isnt the strongest at every exercise.  but he is strong at every exercise.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 11, 2006, 05:18:31 PM
i can lift 95's for 7 reps and i only weigh 170lbs
then you're a freak of nature if you're doing full reps.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Stavios on September 11, 2006, 05:19:04 PM
ronnie isnt the strongest at every exercise.  but he is strong at every exercise.
there is a fucking huge difference between the 160's and the 190's
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 11, 2006, 06:22:54 PM
Hey guys...someone just emailed me about this topic...

Whether you believe it or not...at Diamond Gym in Maplewood, NJ around 1998/1999...I did use the 190 lb dumbells for a set of partial press shoulder presses. When I say partial I do not mean bouncing them...I just did not lock out at the top....if I remember correct it was for a set of 3-4 reps...

Shoulder presses, in any form, have always been a movement that I did have freakish strength. At the age of 18 I could behind the neck press with 405, which lead to my earliest injuries...it was not smart....On the hammer military press I can do a set of 12, depending on the day and my energy levels, loaded with 5 plates on each side....when I was training with Trevor Smith, RIP,Trevor pushed me to new levels of strength...Front military press on the Smith machines?..a set looked like this:

635 x 2, with 1 forced....
drop the weight to:
495 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
315 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
225 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
135 x failure...usually only 4-6 reps
then doing partial with this for what seemed an eternity, and then...
dropping to the bar only to have Trevor lean on it while I had to complete 4-6 full reps...

I know there are going to be those that do not beleive...but many forget I spent from age 13-20/21 training with world champion power lifters...these guys were mutants!...they were so strong and I was lucky that they taught me that inorder to build solid base I needed to be as strong as I wanted to look.

Now?...I have a lot of injuries, but many fond memories of great training sessions...the 190's at Diamond Gym would not have been so hard to move had they not been so long...anyone that has ever trained there or seen older style dumbells like this? they were harder to balance side to side than they were to move up and down...

Ronnie is awesome, and very strong...but just so you guys know?...I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds...some of them benched in the mid 500's to low 600lb range...they did not look like bodybuilders...strength and cosmetics are too very different things....

 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: WiseGuy on September 11, 2006, 06:31:07 PM
Hey guys...someone just emailed me about this topic...

Whether you believe it or not...at Diamond Gym in Maplewood, NJ around 1998/1999...I did use the 190 lb dumbells for a set of partial press shoulder presses. When I say partial I do not mean bouncing them...I just did not lock out at the top....if I remember correct it was for a set of 3-4 reps...

Shoulder presses, in any form, have always been a movement that I did have freakish strength. At the age of 18 I could behind the neck press with 405, which lead to my earliest injuries...it was not smart....On the hammer military press I can do a set of 12, depending on the day and my energy levels, loaded with 5 plates on each side....when I was training with Trevor Smith, RIP,Trevor pushed me to new levels of strength...Front military press on the Smith machines?..a set looked like this:

635 x 2, with 1 forced....
drop the weight to:
495 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
315 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
225 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
135 x failure...usually only 4-6 reps
then doing partial with this for what seemed an eternity, and then...
dropping to the bar only to have Trevor lean on it while I had to complete 4-6 full reps...

I know there are going to be those that do not beleive...but many forget I spent from age 13-20/21 training with world champion power lifters...these guys were mutants!...they were so strong and I was lucky that they taught me that inorder to build solid base I needed to be as strong as I wanted to look.

Now?...I have a lot of injuries, but many fond memories of great training sessions...the 190's at Diamond Gym would not have been so hard to move had they not been so long...anyone that has ever trained there or seen older style dumbells like this? they were harder to balance side to side than they were to move up and down...

Ronnie is awesome, and very strong...but just so you guys know?...I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds...some of them benched in the mid 500's to low 600lb range...they did not look like bodybuilders...strength and cosmetics are too very different things....

 


hahaha sarcasm got owned
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 11, 2006, 06:35:32 PM
No...

I did not say any of this to "own" anyone...I just wanted to be clear/ honest...A lot of strong bodybuilders are not always the biggest bodybuilders...

I have picked up on the fact that sarcasm definitely is not a fan of mine...this is his right and I do not mind. Time to time he has posted things that were his opinions of my physique...and again he has the right to do so. I would not attack him just to make a point or try to make myself look good...I just, again, wanted to set the record straight....

Take care...
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: WiseGuy on September 11, 2006, 06:38:02 PM
No...

I did not say any of this to "own" anyone...I just wanted to be clear/ honest...A lot of strong bodybuilders are not always the biggest bodybuilders...

I have picked up on the fact that sarcasm definitely is not a fan of mine...this is his right and I do not mind. Time to time he has posted things that were his opinions of my physique...and again he has the right to do so. I would not attack him just to make a point or try to make myself look good...I just, again, wanted to set the record straight....

Take care...

I understand Matt you were just stating facts(poundages)...i took liberty in getting in a dig at sarcasm, he likes to dish it out here at GetBig... he can take some once in awhile

 8)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: gmflex on September 11, 2006, 06:40:47 PM
Nope........
No way he(Duvall) can lift that much weight..
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2006, 07:03:32 PM
Don't ever doubt the power's of the darkside ;)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: 300 on September 11, 2006, 07:17:19 PM
I have picked up on the fact that sarcasm definitely is not a fan of mine...this is his right and I do not mind. Time to time he has posted things that were his opinions of my physique...and again he has the right to do so. I would not attack him just to make a point or try to make myself look good...I just, again, wanted to set the record straight....

Take care...

WTF!  An IFBB Pro not melting down because someone on GetBig doesn't like their physique or doesn't believe a claimed lift?!

Very refreshing.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Van_Bilderass on September 11, 2006, 07:20:30 PM
No...

I did not say any of this to "own" anyone...I just wanted to be clear/ honest...A lot of strong bodybuilders are not always the biggest bodybuilders...

I have picked up on the fact that sarcasm definitely is not a fan of mine...this is his right and I do not mind. Time to time he has posted things that were his opinions of my physique...and again he has the right to do so. I would not attack him just to make a point or try to make myself look good...I just, again, wanted to set the record straight....

Take care...
Well done, you know how these boards work. Melting down is always a mistake!
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 11, 2006, 07:30:38 PM
No melt downs...someone's perceptions are their reality...and it is not my place to argue that...Is my back my best bodypart...definitely not...early on?...I allowed my arms to do most of the work...not properly stimulating the back...In the past 2 years?...seperating my back training into upper and lower back training sessions has helped tremendously...Legs?...I always had thick lower leg development from power style leg training...but never isolated outer and upper quads...again, something I have corrected.

Sadly, a lot of meltdowns are brought on by the insecurities that stereotype bodybuilders..." I am the biggest"..."I am the strongest"..."watch out next time because I am going to recreate myself!"...All this is lunacy. I just love to train, and learn new ways to continue making progress...

I never made a training video due to the fact that doing it right? can be costly...and I wanted to make something worth buying...Now, after the show(s), I want to make a video of my power style training...the techniques I learned from Trevor...known as his Beyond Failure Training, and since my injury how I had to learn in certain situations to make less weight feel like more. Also so footage of wrestling...we will see. This way people can see me training and God willing respect at least how hard I train...the effort that goes into building a physique...
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: njflex on September 11, 2006, 07:37:40 PM
Good luck ,you seem alright from what some people have said about you.like you said if you correct some thing's that are off and not overdiet that good size you have ,you'll do ok,winning a pro show is not in every pro bber's deck,so improving and better overall placing is.hopefully you can do it.wrestling also is a good career choice too.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: johnnytosh on September 11, 2006, 07:41:13 PM
Matt,
Thanks for the heads up about the injuries that go with such heavy weights.
Thanks for the candid response.  Good luck with your pec-tear.
I wish you the best.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: siouxcountry on September 11, 2006, 07:49:51 PM
Quote
I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds

Are you sure you mean Military Presses and not Push Presses? Was it full range?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: jmt1 on September 11, 2006, 08:02:49 PM
::) ::)

OWNED
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 11, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
Sioux country...

    Yes, these gentleman were doing front Military presses..not a push press, but I do understand the need for clarification....

Mat
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: denvmuscle on September 11, 2006, 08:59:04 PM
Hey Mat:

I don't care how much you lift.  You're a huge dude and an honest one as well.  Glad to have you back on GetBig.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: pushinweightwi on September 11, 2006, 09:06:39 PM
congrats on not fliping out 20304865% faster than some pros on here, good to have you
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Below Me on September 11, 2006, 09:23:29 PM
Nice thread.

Props to you Matt and Godd Luck
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Peaking at 45 !!! on September 11, 2006, 09:27:09 PM
Matt is always a great guy to talk to in person (A few times at the Arnold Classic expo), and its interesting to hear about the type of training he has experienced. Good Luck Matt !!! :)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: chris2489 on September 11, 2006, 09:28:37 PM
I don't see why he would lie since he's a bodybuilder and has nothing to prove as far as weight poundages are concerned. I could see if he was a powerlifter but not a bodybuilder because bodybuilding is about size not strength.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: mtwain on September 11, 2006, 10:03:22 PM
Matt, do you still use Trevor's training principles in your workouts? If not, why not? And how long were the workouts with Trevor? He claimed that toward the last two weeks with Robby Robinson his workouts were only about 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: chris2489 on September 11, 2006, 10:18:01 PM
Mat DuVall

4/6/02

Month 1: Shock, Anxiety... PAIN.

There are type's of pain that warrant anxiety when thinking about it. I am not talking about the brief pain experienced when one stubs a toe; no, I am talking about the pain felt when lactic acid has reached maximum levels in a muscle. The pain felt when muscle fibers are tearing apart at a rate that you do not have time to even catch your breath, much less, start to feel better. This pain is what builds champions in the gym. This is the pain I asked Trevor to bring to my world in my pursuit of the Mr USA title. My reason for moving to Vegas was to have the opportunity to step into hell everytime I trained with Trevor; to know I was leaving no stone unturned in my journey. Each month I will give you, the reader's a chance to experience in word the pain and torture that I ask for. You will have a front row seat as Trevor unmercifully breaks my body down in the gym. I will not hold back in my description of the pain I feel; please know this is being done not to discourage you, but rather to encourage you to go beyond the thresh hold of pain in your own training. Beyond Failure Training is not just some fly by night training system that will be forgotten in a month or two. It is a training system that when done right can yield gains like one has never experienced! It is a system that the trainer or trainee is encouraged to make subtle changes.. rep speed, range of motion, the possibilities are endless, yet all lead to the same place.. Shock as to the gains you will make, Anxiety when you are waiting to do your next set, and the constant Pain you will feel.

I arrived in Las Vegas on February 27th, a month late! Why was I upset? In being late, I missed the opportunity to go through a cycle of BFT with Trevor. He was on the last week of his training cycle, and I was coming off a 10 week lay off. My second reason for being upset?, I was as mentioned feeling untrained and flat, while Trevor greeted me at a bodyweight of 370 pounds! Trust me when I say, I have never witnessed any pro or amateur bodybuilder at this weight, while maintaining a beyond respectable level of conditioning! d**n! I needed to get my ass in gear and be ready for the next training cycle. To be honest, it was best that I was not on track with Trevor when I arrived. Why?, as it was put to me, " You would have died, you are not ready..." I felt like a bald little kid, only answering to the name, " Grasshopper", but in truth Trevor wanted to have the chance to guide me through some training while he was off BFT so that I could be ready for the Hell that lay ahead. The first week was tough. I knew that Trevor was taking it easy on me a bit, he knew that I needed time to re-adjust to training in this style. That week's workout that best describe's the pain felt by BFT is the leg training done on friday the 1st of March.

We had gone through the other bodyparts and only had legs left to finish the week. I was hurting, alot, from the prior 3 workouts and as I sat waiting for Trevor, a horrible feeling of anxiety consumed me. Had I timed my arrival with Trevor, it may have been better, but I was early that day, and left to think about the pain that lay only minutes ahead. Moments later I saw Lucifer, (Trevor), pass through the door. As he passed by me, he did not stop, or greet me with a "good morning". I believe the words were, " I feel like sh*t, let's go..." It was decided that due to his body's state, on that day I would be the center of attention. Trevor was there only to bring the pain. How nice of him you say? to come in for me, even though he was off? Understand that his presence was to, yes, help, but in doing so to make me feel every set that I had missed in the 6 weeks prior! With each hint of regret I felt for being there, I reminded myself that this was what I needed, what I wanted and what was going to bring me to July 26th looking like a mutant! Leg extensions, 1 warmup, and 2 worksets... I hear your thoughts, "that's all, just 2 worksets?" What I felt in the next 10 minutes is only comparable to having my thighs pounded by sledge hammers. The weight seemed easy enough, only the stack to start, a slight 300 pounds, big deal, right? I was then introduced to true no momentum reps. Explain you say?, TRUE no momentum reps, are slow, squeezing every fiber possible reps, then holding it at the top of the movement for a full 5 seconds. After the 5 second hold, it is a slow, excruciating negative that should take no less than 3-4 seconds, and you are not to rest on the bottom. The rep is stopped for a count of 3 just before the muscle fiber's of the legs can relax, thus keeping them in the contracted position. That was one rep; 4 seconds up, 5 seconds at the top, another 4 on the way down and a hold of 3 on the bottom. Sixteen seconds of pain and it was just one rep! I went on in that fashion to about 8 on my own,it was then that I had to do 3 barely assisted reps. I say barely to illustrate that the assistance given is just enough to complete the rep. At no time is the weight taken from me and finished by Trevor. After the 8 on my own and the 3 assisted, my legs were screaming! I actually heard myself wimper! Me, wimper! I know there will be some that say, only 11 and you were wimpering!? Hah! "what a girl thingy!" Those 11 reps took close to 3 minutes to do!!, and now came the first drop! now I had 210 pounds on the stack, and I could not perform one rep on my own. I opened my eyes just long enough to see Trevor glaring at me, reading his thoughts I heard, " I am not supposed to be training today, suck it up girl thingy!" Hearing his actual words he told me to keep squeezing, even though the weight was not moving. I did 3 assisted reps, another 40 seconds of pure, evil, pain. In all honesty at this point my motor skills were failing. My quads were not firing and I felt breakfast bubbling from deep within me.... Drop #2! Yes, from 210 to 140 pounds. I was numb, remember this was the first set! Numb to the point that my ears were popping, I heard little other than Trevor's encouragment to keep squeezing. In making sure that I was squeezing, he would give my leg a slap. A slap from a 370 pound freak, not a little punk! A fraction of me wanted to jump up and plant a 45 pound plate right between his eyes! "Why?" you ask, "Is it becasue I was in so much pain?", no, it was becasue I knew this was nothing compared to the 18 weeks that lay ahead. The 140 pounds on the stack felt like a car coming down on my legs. I gathered enough stength to complete one on my own, but for some resaon the 2nd rep was not moving. Again, I opened my eyes and saw Trevor leaning on the pad that my feet were under! He was adding another maybe 100 pounds of pressure to the 140 that I was barely moving! Remember, it is called, Beyond Failure Training, not Go to failure training! I managed to get through another two reps, thus making it to the 3rd drop, 90 pounds..... I should be able to move 90 pounds like a pillow!?, then why are tears forming in my eyes as I strain to complete just one rep?!, Oh!, again, Mr Smith is leaning on the pad, as if it was not hard enough. Doing 3 reps with the 90, reminded me of the opening scene to the Incredible Hulk, you know, when David Banner was trying to lift the car off his wife... That was a car, this is 90 pounds! Why am I grimmacing?, and why are my eyes tearing up? I was roughly 4 1/2 minutes into my first set, yes the first set, and there was no longer a mind to muscle conection. My mind had told my muscle to get ****ed a long time ago! this was now instinct and the desire to prove I was worthy of the title I wanted to earn. The 3 reps performed with 90 pounds were more Trevor than I, yes, I was squeezing, trying to squeeze for all I was worth, but at that point I was worth little to nothing. As I came down on the 3rd rep, a feeling of relief started to come over me, I was done?, right? I mean 5 1/2 minutes for one set is enough right?, What is enough? Does enough excist? Not today, Trevor dropped the weight again to 50 pounds! That's right 50 pounds. Had you been there to hear the wimpering done on my part, you may have believed I was pushing up 500 pounds, but it was not. With only 50 pounds I struggled through maybe another 5 reps of agony until I was allowed to stop. As I looked up and realized that close to 8 minutes of my life had passed, all I could do was look at the floor and ask, how bad do I want this?, how much work am I willing to do to achieve my goal? One set? Two sets?, by the way, on this day there was no second set of leg extensions. My quads were gorged with blood, and shaking to the point where another set was on that day, pointless. Realize that in one set of leg extensions I did more work than any idiot who loads the squat bar up with 500 pounds and bounces out 4-6 half reps! This was work, real work, and as much as I was in pain, I knew that my body would not deny me the gains I needed 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: chris2489 on September 11, 2006, 10:19:22 PM
!...... From there, we went to the leg press, an exercise that I normally would be able to pound out reps with more than 2000 pounds loaded! That was then, on this day, due to the state of my quads, I was performing with a mere 4 plates on each side!! A little over four hundred pounds, but you have to keep in mind that my goal is not strength. The primary goal is to build muscle tissue and this is done by destroying as many fibers as possible. Once I was able to get into the machine, the 8 plates, total, actually felt a bit heavy. I was instructed to slowly lower the weight and hold it on the bottom. I was not holding it on my chest, no, that is cheating, I was holding it right off the chest, just enough to keep the fibers in my quads stretched to the max! 4-5 seconds on the bottom, and then a slow, controlled squeeze all the way to the top. The top is where it gets interesting, I was told to rotate to my heels and flex for all I was worth. Hold, hold, flex, harder! this is what I was hearing. After holding in a full flex for five seconds, it was another slow disent to the bottom. After 6 reps, in all truth, I was toasted! I finshed with 5 more reps at a faster pace, but still flexing at the top for all I was worth. When reading these words, it is hard to imagine the pain that is felt. I have trained in many stlyes; power training, high rep training, etc. and this is by far the most pain I have ever experienced in the gym. I was able to finish 2 sets of the leg press and 1 long work set for hamstrings before knowing on that day I was done. There will be some that may scoff at this training, as it is described in print, but I challenge anyone to participate and feel what I am talking about

With each week that passes I see my physique changing for the better. I am getting fuller, harder and larger! Many, if not all, involved in the world of bodybuilding know that the formula for success is hard training, proper nutrition/ supplementation, rest, and on some levels well prepared courses. Starting at 12 weeks out from the USA's I have asked Trevor to post pictures of my progress. This is done more to prove the effectivness of BFT. My nutrition never changes that much when preparing for a contest, nor do the other aspects of my preparation. Having Trevor guide me through daily sessions of BFT is the most drastic change I have made to my pre contest training. It is my hope that I serve as living proof as to the effecitvness of BFT! Do not go day to day wishing you could be one of the champions in the world of bodybuilding. Challenge yourself to become a champion. Challenge yourself to perform BFT the right way!, By looking at life and your training as a constant challenge, and asking what you can do to win that challenge you have already won half the battle. The other half is won by being consistent and never, ever, quitting!
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 06:55:49 AM
Hey guys...someone just emailed me about this topic...

Whether you believe it or not...at Diamond Gym in Maplewood, NJ around 1998/1999...I did use the 190 lb dumbells for a set of partial press shoulder presses. When I say partial I do not mean bouncing them...I just did not lock out at the top....if I remember correct it was for a set of 3-4 reps...

Shoulder presses, in any form, have always been a movement that I did have freakish strength. At the age of 18 I could behind the neck press with 405, which lead to my earliest injuries...it was not smart....On the hammer military press I can do a set of 12, depending on the day and my energy levels, loaded with 5 plates on each side....when I was training with Trevor Smith, RIP,Trevor pushed me to new levels of strength...Front military press on the Smith machines?..a set looked like this:

635 x 2, with 1 forced....
drop the weight to:
495 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
315 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
225 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
135 x failure...usually only 4-6 reps
then doing partial with this for what seemed an eternity, and then...
dropping to the bar only to have Trevor lean on it while I had to complete 4-6 full reps...

I know there are going to be those that do not beleive...but many forget I spent from age 13-20/21 training with world champion power lifters...these guys were mutants!...they were so strong and I was lucky that they taught me that inorder to build solid base I needed to be as strong as I wanted to look.

Now?...I have a lot of injuries, but many fond memories of great training sessions...the 190's at Diamond Gym would not have been so hard to move had they not been so long...anyone that has ever trained there or seen older style dumbells like this? they were harder to balance side to side than they were to move up and down...

Ronnie is awesome, and very strong...but just so you guys know?...I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds...some of them benched in the mid 500's to low 600lb range...they did not look like bodybuilders...strength and cosmetics are too very different things....

 
hahahahaha, you're lying your ass off, this post is the biggest bunch of bullshit i've ever read on getbig.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 07:04:24 AM
I believe it.  I can do that 100s and im just the average weight lifter.  He is a pro who uses gear.....so he better be able to do around that much.
Seriously im the same way. I work with the 100's -110's for 6-8 reps (full range for 6 and partial for 8 ) and im no where near duvall or coleman. Im 245 and not consistant with supplements.  And I think duvall as well as coleman both come from a powerbuilding background. I have seen coleman (on a video) alt curl 75lb dumbbells. So it is quite possible he has the strength to go super heavy on shoulder presses.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: nycbull on September 12, 2006, 07:20:40 AM
Matt, you seem like an educated guy who can speak standard English, If we see an article from you in a bb magazine like Flex or something can we trust that it is all you? You don't seem like the kinda guy that would let a ghost writer speak for you? Thats a rarity in the bodybuilding world.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Joey Tito on September 12, 2006, 07:21:09 AM
hahahahaha, you're lying your ass off, this post is the biggest bunch of bullshit i've ever read on getbig.

I second that.  Why anyone would spend so much time posting such trollage is beyond me.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:26:19 AM
Matt Couple of questions for you,

You liked Very High Rep training at one time.  Do you still do this?

Whatever happend to a wrestling career?  Are you still with Muscletech?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: MAXX on September 12, 2006, 07:28:07 AM
Hey guys...someone just emailed me about this topic...

Whether you believe it or not...at Diamond Gym in Maplewood, NJ around 1998/1999...I did use the 190 lb dumbells for a set of partial press shoulder presses. When I say partial I do not mean bouncing them...I just did not lock out at the top....if I remember correct it was for a set of 3-4 reps...

Shoulder presses, in any form, have always been a movement that I did have freakish strength. At the age of 18 I could behind the neck press with 405, which lead to my earliest injuries...it was not smart....On the hammer military press I can do a set of 12, depending on the day and my energy levels, loaded with 5 plates on each side....when I was training with Trevor Smith, RIP,Trevor pushed me to new levels of strength...Front military press on the Smith machines?..a set looked like this:

635 x 2, with 1 forced....
drop the weight to:
495 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
315 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
225 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
135 x failure...usually only 4-6 reps
then doing partial with this for what seemed an eternity, and then...
dropping to the bar only to have Trevor lean on it while I had to complete 4-6 full reps...

I know there are going to be those that do not beleive...but many forget I spent from age 13-20/21 training with world champion power lifters...these guys were mutants!...they were so strong and I was lucky that they taught me that inorder to build solid base I needed to be as strong as I wanted to look.

Now?...I have a lot of injuries, but many fond memories of great training sessions...the 190's at Diamond Gym would not have been so hard to move had they not been so long...anyone that has ever trained there or seen older style dumbells like this? they were harder to balance side to side than they were to move up and down...

Ronnie is awesome, and very strong...but just so you guys know?...I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds...some of them benched in the mid 500's to low 600lb range...they did not look like bodybuilders...strength and cosmetics are too very different things....

 
Matt you have a nice powerfull looking physique and im sure your strong to.

but i have to agree with sarcasm on this one. 635 * 2 military sounds like bull to me i have never seen anyone do that kind of weight.

Kevin Levrone who probably is the strongest bodybuilder on pressing movements did 495 *3

Its funny how some bodybuilders never have any proof for these monstrous lift claims. Muscletech athletes seems to be the masters of bullshit claims.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Playboy on September 12, 2006, 07:28:51 AM
Ronnie only does the 160's for partials, care to take back your statement?
What partials???
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 12, 2006, 07:29:35 AM
NYCbull....

     Every article I ever wrote for MD...ads for Muscletech, and now MuscleMag have always been my words, thoughts, ideas..etc. I enjoy writing...

Tito and Sarcasm...sounds like I cannot win with you guys, that is ok. When I do have the time and as mentioned finances to make a quality training video I intend to demonstrate some of the power that helped develop my physique...Something tells me I will have to weigh each plate/ dumbell on the video so that no one will scream foul...(fake plates)...just kidding. All the same be well...

Mat
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 07:30:11 AM
What partials???
on Cost of Redemption.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: jmt1 on September 12, 2006, 07:31:33 AM
hahahahaha, you're lying your ass off, this post is the biggest bunch of bullshit i've ever read on getbig.

what is he lying about?

like i said ive seen him do the 190s for shoulder press...why would i make that up?...lol

im sure the bft with trevor is true also.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 07:32:29 AM
NYCbull....

     Every article I ever wrote for MD...ads for Muscletech, and now MuscleMag have always been my words, thoughts, ideas..etc. I enjoy writing...

Tito and Sarcasm...sounds like I cannot win with you guys, that is ok. When I do have the time and as mentioned finances to make a quality training video I intend to demonstrate some of the power that helped develop my physique...Something tells me I will have to weigh each plate/ dumbell on the video so that no one will scream foul...(fake plates)...just kidding. All the same be well...

Mat
Matt i resapect you and i think that you have a good physique but you're lying about your lifts, you're saying that you can press more weight than Bill Kazmaier or Paul Anderson could touch, i'm here to keep people in check when they make bullshit claims and you are lying.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:35:47 AM
This is interesting.

From the MuscleTech site:

Full Name: Matthew Thomas Duvall
Nick Name: Mad Dog
Place of Birth: Prince William County, Virginia
Date of Birth: October 31, 1972
Residence: Northern Virginia
Occupation: IFBB professional bodybuilder, self-employed general contractor
Height: 6'0"
Contest Weight: 260 lbs.
Off-Season Weight: 315 lbs.
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Chest (contest): 60"
Arms (contest): 22"
Waist (contest): 34"
Thighs (contest): 30"
Bench Press: 405 lbs. x 8 reps
Incline Dumbell Press: 175 lbs. x 8 reps
Deadlift: 585 lbs. x 6 reps
Squat: 545 lbs. x 6 reps
Biggest Influence: His father, Barry R. Duvall Sr.
Something interesting few people know about Mat:
One of his biggest feats was benching over 500 lbs. at the age of 20. 
 
 

 
Favorite Body Parts: Arms, shoulders, and chest
Favorite Body Parts to Train: Legs and back
Favorite Exercise: Leg press
Favorite Cheat Foods: “My favorite cheat food that's not really cheat food is sushi. I go through times where I want to have some pizza or I want a hamburger, but the food I consistently want is sushi.”
Favorite Movies: As Good As It Gets, Braveheart, Gladiator, and Heat
Favorite TV Shows: CNN News and The Sopranos
Favorite Actors: Jack Nicholson and Robert DeNiro
Favorite Sport: Football
Favorite Musical Artists: Enya, Eminem, Kid Rock, and
Wu Tang Clan
 
 

 
Remember to consult your doctor before starting any diet and exercise plan.

Mat Duvall's Sample Pre-Contest Training Split

Monday – Chest and calves

Tuesday – Shoulders, triceps, and abs

Wednesday – Rest (occasionally abs and calves)

Thursday – Back, biceps, and abs

Friday – Calves and abs

Saturday – Legs

Sunday – Off

For each exercise Mat does 2 warm-up sets followed by a working drop set.

Mat's Sample Working Drop Set
Weight #1 to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #2
Weight #2 x 10 reps or to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #3
Weight #3 x 6 to 10 reps to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #4
Weight #4 to failure plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Mat's Sample Pre-Contest Cardio

For Cardio, Mat will perform 45 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening. He finds he benefits from using the treadmill and stairclimber. 
 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 07:38:30 AM
This is interesting.

From the MuscleTech site:

Full Name: Matthew Thomas Duvall
Nick Name: Mad Dog
Place of Birth: Prince William County, Virginia
Date of Birth: October 31, 1972
Residence: Northern Virginia
Occupation: IFBB professional bodybuilder, self-employed general contractor
Height: 6'0"
Contest Weight: 260 lbs.
Off-Season Weight: 315 lbs.
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Chest (contest): 60"
Arms (contest): 22"
Waist (contest): 34"
Thighs (contest): 30"
Bench Press: 405 lbs. x 8 reps
Incline Dumbell Press: 175 lbs. x 8 reps
Deadlift: 585 lbs. x 6 reps
Squat: 545 lbs. x 6 reps
Biggest Influence: His father, Barry R. Duvall Sr.
Something interesting few people know about Mat:
One of his biggest feats was benching over 500 lbs. at the age of 20. 
 
 

 
Favorite Body Parts: Arms, shoulders, and chest
Favorite Body Parts to Train: Legs and back
Favorite Exercise: Leg press
Favorite Cheat Foods: “My favorite cheat food that's not really cheat food is sushi. I go through times where I want to have some pizza or I want a hamburger, but the food I consistently want is sushi.”
Favorite Movies: As Good As It Gets, Braveheart, Gladiator, and Heat
Favorite TV Shows: CNN News and The Sopranos
Favorite Actors: Jack Nicholson and Robert DeNiro
Favorite Sport: Football
Favorite Musical Artists: Enya, Eminem, Kid Rock, and
Wu Tang Clan
 
 

 
Remember to consult your doctor before starting any diet and exercise plan.

Mat Duvall's Sample Pre-Contest Training Split

Monday – Chest and calves

Tuesday – Shoulders, triceps, and abs

Wednesday – Rest (occasionally abs and calves)

Thursday – Back, biceps, and abs

Friday – Calves and abs

Saturday – Legs

Sunday – Off

For each exercise Mat does 2 warm-up sets followed by a working drop set.

Mat's Sample Working Drop Set
Weight #1 to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #2
Weight #2 x 10 reps or to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #3
Weight #3 x 6 to 10 reps to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #4
Weight #4 to failure plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Mat's Sample Pre-Contest Cardio

For Cardio, Mat will perform 45 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening. He finds he benefits from using the treadmill and stairclimber. 
 

now those lifts are more realistic, i actually believe those.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Big N on September 12, 2006, 07:39:32 AM
This is interesting.

From the MuscleTech site:

Full Name: Matthew Thomas Duvall
Nick Name: Mad Dog
Place of Birth: Prince William County, Virginia
Date of Birth: October 31, 1972
Residence: Northern Virginia
Occupation: IFBB professional bodybuilder, self-employed general contractor
Height: 6'0"
Contest Weight: 260 lbs.
Off-Season Weight: 315 lbs.
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Chest (contest): 60"
Arms (contest): 22"
Waist (contest): 34"
Thighs (contest): 30"
Bench Press: 405 lbs. x 8 reps
Incline Dumbell Press: 175 lbs. x 8 reps
Deadlift: 585 lbs. x 6 reps
Squat: 545 lbs. x 6 reps
Biggest Influence: His father, Barry R. Duvall Sr.
Something interesting few people know about Mat:
One of his biggest feats was benching over 500 lbs. at the age of 20. 
 
 

 
Favorite Body Parts: Arms, shoulders, and chest
Favorite Body Parts to Train: Legs and back
Favorite Exercise: Leg press
Favorite Cheat Foods: “My favorite cheat food that's not really cheat food is sushi. I go through times where I want to have some pizza or I want a hamburger, but the food I consistently want is sushi.”
Favorite Movies: As Good As It Gets, Braveheart, Gladiator, and Heat
Favorite TV Shows: CNN News and The Sopranos
Favorite Actors: Jack Nicholson and Robert DeNiro
Favorite Sport: Football
Favorite Musical Artists: Enya, Eminem, Kid Rock, and
Wu Tang Clan
 
 

 
Remember to consult your doctor before starting any diet and exercise plan.

Mat Duvall's Sample Pre-Contest Training Split

Monday – Chest and calves

Tuesday – Shoulders, triceps, and abs

Wednesday – Rest (occasionally abs and calves)

Thursday – Back, biceps, and abs

Friday – Calves and abs

Saturday – Legs

Sunday – Off

For each exercise Mat does 2 warm-up sets followed by a working drop set.

Mat's Sample Working Drop Set
Weight #1 to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #2
Weight #2 x 10 reps or to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #3
Weight #3 x 6 to 10 reps to failure, plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Drop to Weight #4
Weight #4 to failure plus 1 or 2 forced reps
Mat's Sample Pre-Contest Cardio

For Cardio, Mat will perform 45 minutes in the morning and 45 minutes in the evening. He finds he benefits from using the treadmill and stairclimber. 
 



MONSTER waste of time
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: nycbull on September 12, 2006, 07:40:50 AM
NYCbull....

     Every article I ever wrote for MD...ads for Muscletech, and now MuscleMag have always been my words, thoughts, ideas..etc. I enjoy writing...



Mat

Thats great dude, good to hear you are setting the bar high for others to follow and hopefully that will become the standard.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:42:02 AM
Thats great dude, good to hear you are setting the bar high for others to follow and hopefully that will become the standard.

Ok now thats Bullshit.

They may be your words Matt, but they damn sure were full of lies, regarding Muscletech.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:44:23 AM
Flex,  May, 2002 
Are you man enough to accept the challenge of building shoulders so wide they could support the weight of the world? Then venture into the world of freak show Mat Duvall, your personal tour guide for delt destruction. No matter which angle you view this monster from, Mat Duvall's delts are in a league of their own.

Mat Duvall of Eatontown, New Jersey, is a top American amateur bodybuilder and is just one win away from realizing his dream of becoming a professional bodybuilder. At 28 years of age, he tips the scales at a mind-boggling 305 pounds in the off-season. He has competed in the NPC Nationals, only to miss his pro card by one measly spot, placing second in the superheavyweight class at 265 rock-hard pounds! To put it bluntly, when Mat turns professional he's going to do some serious damage. Some of you pros should be looking over your shoulders.

Mat believes in balls-to-the-wall training and extreme supplementation for undeniable growth. With that said it's time to put the women and children to bed, because these exclusive tips are not for the faint of heart. This is true hardcore advice that will help you pack on freakish mass. You'll never again have to wear three sweaters and a puffy jacket to look wide. Just follow these tips and your new delt size will speak for itself.

Advertisement

TIP #1 - EAT FOR EXTREME SIZE

The first law of mass: To get big you've got to eat big! Diet is crucial for recovery after destructive training sessions. "Diet is one aspect of my program that I just cannot ignore," says Mat. "My success depends on it." He usually consumes 5500 to 6500 calories a day, much of it consisting of protein. Carbs are kept moderate at 200 to 300 grams a day, and fat only comes from the protein foods he eats like whole eggs and red meat. As you can imagine, a lot of Mat's protein intake comes in the form of shakes. He doesn't mess around with inferior protein, choosing instead to rely on supplements that are supported by science and produce noticeable results. That's why NITRO-Tech, by MuscleTech Research and Development, is such an important part of Mat's supplement program. MuscleTech's outstanding research team performed countless hours of clinical testing before they released the world-renowned NITRO-Tech protein powder to the market.

NITRO-Tech has 17 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In one study, it was clinically shown to help build up to 24 times more mass than regular whey protein. You want to have every edge possible in your quest for ultra-wide delts, so make sure your main protein source is NITRO-Tech. "After I finish annihilating my delts, NITRO-Tech helps me to start building muscle," says Mat. "I don't know about you, but I'd rather build muscle than watch it waste away."

Mat drinks six NITRO-Tech shakes each day. He also takes CELL-Tech religiously, and believes true hardcore body-builders should be using CELL-Tech all year round. CELL-Tech is clinically proven to be up to 19 times better than creatine for gains in ripped mass and has over 30 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In fact, some CELL-Tech users report gaining up to 10 pounds in as little as 7 days! In Mat's case, he even reloads on CELL-Tech every few months to make sure his tanks are fully fuelled and primed for explosive gains in mass and strength. If you want to watch your shoulders swell to the size of watermelons, take Mat's advice: eat and train like a beast and get on CELL-Tech!

TIP #2 - DESTROY YOUR DELTS

Ever seen a grown man cry? Well, if you try this routine you may be shedding tears like a baby! Mat Duvall has always had good shoulder development but he says that in the last year they've grown to unbelievable proportions. He tortures his delts with three exercises (only 1 set per exercise) and does shrugs for his traps. Mat starts with dumbell side laterals--lining up the 75s, 45s, 25s, and the 15s. He pumps his delts with each pair until he's reached absolute failure and then proceeds to do even more damage by having his training partner spot him for 2 or 3 forced reps. When he hits the 15s his training partner pushes down on the dumbell to add resistance and Mat pauses at the peak of contraction, holding it at the top for a few painful seconds that must seem like an eternity. At this point Mat's delts are screaming for mercy but he continues to pound them with dumbell shoulder presses.

He proceeds to pick up heavy dumbells--as much as 150 pounds in each hand--and perform another 4 drop sets plus forced reps. He also does extra negatives on the final drop set to increase the torture on his delts and try to force them into growth. Next, Mat moves on to rear delts, which he assaults using either the rear-delt machine or standing rear laterals. For laterals he hits a triple-drop set without forced reps. He then finishes off with a triple-drop set of heavy shrugs. As you can see, this routine is really intense, and only for those with the courage and willpower to go deep into the pain zone, where only the biggest and strongest men venture.

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:45:24 AM
MAT'S SECRET SUPPLEMENT STACK: CELL-TECH & NITRO-TECH

So now you know the importance of diet and training for devastating delts. Mat also stacks his two favorite supplements, CELL-Tech and NITRO-Tech, to reap the muscular rewards of his program. As Mat says, "I've never been this ripped and hard at such a high bodyweight. Since I began using CELL-Tech and NITRO-Tech, I've added pounds of new muscle, gained strength, and even lost fat!"

Mat easily gets a ton of musclebuilding protein from NITRO-Tech without the boredom of always eating the same high-protein standby sources. All he does to get the most effective protein after he trains is serve up a delicious NITRO-Tech shake, gulp it down, and grow--it's just that easy! NITRO-Tech is vital to help you recover and grow when you follow as devastating a training program as Mat Duvall's. In one clinical study, NITRO-Tech subjects gained an average of nearly nine pounds of pure mass and added 35 pounds to their max bench in just six weeks! In fact, one test subject actually gained 15 pounds of mass and added an extraordinary 60 pounds to his best bench! He used to be just a regular guy who benched a mere 255, but now he lifts an amazing 315.

Mat considers CELL-Tech to be the perfect complement to NITRO-Tech. He uses both supplements year-round and feels that if you're not using an advanced creatine supplement all the time you're sacrificing some serious gains. He uses CELL-Tech for one reason--it works! "I feel so much stronger since I started using CELL-Tech, and my pumps are simply ridiculous!" says Mat. With the kind of incredible results described above, it's easy to see how combining CELL-Tech and NITRO-Tech creates an unbelievable mass stack for quick gains that will help you to stand out in a crowd!

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CELL-TECH & NITRO-TECH: A RECIPE FOR MASS

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Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 07:45:34 AM
Flex,  May, 2002 
Are you man enough to accept the challenge of building shoulders so wide they could support the weight of the world? Then venture into the world of freak show Mat Duvall, your personal tour guide for delt destruction. No matter which angle you view this monster from, Mat Duvall's delts are in a league of their own.

Mat Duvall of Eatontown, New Jersey, is a top American amateur bodybuilder and is just one win away from realizing his dream of becoming a professional bodybuilder. At 28 years of age, he tips the scales at a mind-boggling 305 pounds in the off-season. He has competed in the NPC Nationals, only to miss his pro card by one measly spot, placing second in the superheavyweight class at 265 rock-hard pounds! To put it bluntly, when Mat turns professional he's going to do some serious damage. Some of you pros should be looking over your shoulders.

Mat believes in balls-to-the-wall training and extreme supplementation for undeniable growth. With that said it's time to put the women and children to bed, because these exclusive tips are not for the faint of heart. This is true hardcore advice that will help you pack on freakish mass. You'll never again have to wear three sweaters and a puffy jacket to look wide. Just follow these tips and your new delt size will speak for itself.

Advertisement

TIP #1 - EAT FOR EXTREME SIZE

The first law of mass: To get big you've got to eat big! Diet is crucial for recovery after destructive training sessions. "Diet is one aspect of my program that I just cannot ignore," says Mat. "My success depends on it." He usually consumes 5500 to 6500 calories a day, much of it consisting of protein. Carbs are kept moderate at 200 to 300 grams a day, and fat only comes from the protein foods he eats like whole eggs and red meat. As you can imagine, a lot of Mat's protein intake comes in the form of shakes. He doesn't mess around with inferior protein, choosing instead to rely on supplements that are supported by science and produce noticeable results. That's why NITRO-Tech, by MuscleTech Research and Development, is such an important part of Mat's supplement program. MuscleTech's outstanding research team performed countless hours of clinical testing before they released the world-renowned NITRO-Tech protein powder to the market.

NITRO-Tech has 17 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In one study, it was clinically shown to help build up to 24 times more mass than regular whey protein. You want to have every edge possible in your quest for ultra-wide delts, so make sure your main protein source is NITRO-Tech. "After I finish annihilating my delts, NITRO-Tech helps me to start building muscle," says Mat. "I don't know about you, but I'd rather build muscle than watch it waste away."

Mat drinks six NITRO-Tech shakes each day. He also takes CELL-Tech religiously, and believes true hardcore body-builders should be using CELL-Tech all year round. CELL-Tech is clinically proven to be up to 19 times better than creatine for gains in ripped mass and has over 30 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In fact, some CELL-Tech users report gaining up to 10 pounds in as little as 7 days! In Mat's case, he even reloads on CELL-Tech every few months to make sure his tanks are fully fuelled and primed for explosive gains in mass and strength. If you want to watch your shoulders swell to the size of watermelons, take Mat's advice: eat and train like a beast and get on CELL-Tech!

TIP #2 - DESTROY YOUR DELTS

Ever seen a grown man cry? Well, if you try this routine you may be shedding tears like a baby! Mat Duvall has always had good shoulder development but he says that in the last year they've grown to unbelievable proportions. He tortures his delts with three exercises (only 1 set per exercise) and does shrugs for his traps. Mat starts with dumbell side laterals--lining up the 75s, 45s, 25s, and the 15s. He pumps his delts with each pair until he's reached absolute failure and then proceeds to do even more damage by having his training partner spot him for 2 or 3 forced reps. When he hits the 15s his training partner pushes down on the dumbell to add resistance and Mat pauses at the peak of contraction, holding it at the top for a few painful seconds that must seem like an eternity. At this point Mat's delts are screaming for mercy but he continues to pound them with dumbell shoulder presses.

He proceeds to pick up heavy dumbells--as much as 150 pounds in each hand--and perform another 4 drop sets plus forced reps. He also does extra negatives on the final drop set to increase the torture on his delts and try to force them into growth. Next, Mat moves on to rear delts, which he assaults using either the rear-delt machine or standing rear laterals. For laterals he hits a triple-drop set without forced reps. He then finishes off with a triple-drop set of heavy shrugs. As you can see, this routine is really intense, and only for those with the courage and willpower to go deep into the pain zone, where only the biggest and strongest men venture.


hahahaha, what a bunch of bullshit, all drugs.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 12, 2006, 07:46:07 AM
Flex,  May, 2002 
Are you man enough to accept the challenge of building shoulders so wide they could support the weight of the world? Then venture into the world of freak show Mat Duvall, your personal tour guide for delt destruction. No matter which angle you view this monster from, Mat Duvall's delts are in a league of their own.

Mat Duvall of Eatontown, New Jersey, is a top American amateur bodybuilder and is just one win away from realizing his dream of becoming a professional bodybuilder. At 28 years of age, he tips the scales at a mind-boggling 305 pounds in the off-season. He has competed in the NPC Nationals, only to miss his pro card by one measly spot, placing second in the superheavyweight class at 265 rock-hard pounds! To put it bluntly, when Mat turns professional he's going to do some serious damage. Some of you pros should be looking over your shoulders.

Mat believes in balls-to-the-wall training and extreme supplementation for undeniable growth. With that said it's time to put the women and children to bed, because these exclusive tips are not for the faint of heart. This is true hardcore advice that will help you pack on freakish mass. You'll never again have to wear three sweaters and a puffy jacket to look wide. Just follow these tips and your new delt size will speak for itself.

Advertisement

TIP #1 - EAT FOR EXTREME SIZE

The first law of mass: To get big you've got to eat big! Diet is crucial for recovery after destructive training sessions. "Diet is one aspect of my program that I just cannot ignore," says Mat. "My success depends on it." He usually consumes 5500 to 6500 calories a day, much of it consisting of protein. Carbs are kept moderate at 200 to 300 grams a day, and fat only comes from the protein foods he eats like whole eggs and red meat. As you can imagine, a lot of Mat's protein intake comes in the form of shakes. He doesn't mess around with inferior protein, choosing instead to rely on supplements that are supported by science and produce noticeable results. That's why NITRO-Tech, by MuscleTech Research and Development, is such an important part of Mat's supplement program. MuscleTech's outstanding research team performed countless hours of clinical testing before they released the world-renowned NITRO-Tech protein powder to the market.

NITRO-Tech has 17 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In one study, it was clinically shown to help build up to 24 times more mass than regular whey protein. You want to have every edge possible in your quest for ultra-wide delts, so make sure your main protein source is NITRO-Tech. "After I finish annihilating my delts, NITRO-Tech helps me to start building muscle," says Mat. "I don't know about you, but I'd rather build muscle than watch it waste away."

Mat drinks six NITRO-Tech shakes each day. He also takes CELL-Tech religiously, and believes true hardcore body-builders should be using CELL-Tech all year round. CELL-Tech is clinically proven to be up to 19 times better than creatine for gains in ripped mass and has over 30 studies supporting its formula and ingredients. In fact, some CELL-Tech users report gaining up to 10 pounds in as little as 7 days! In Mat's case, he even reloads on CELL-Tech every few months to make sure his tanks are fully fuelled and primed for explosive gains in mass and strength. If you want to watch your shoulders swell to the size of watermelons, take Mat's advice: eat and train like a beast and get on CELL-Tech!

TIP #2 - DESTROY YOUR DELTS

Ever seen a grown man cry? Well, if you try this routine you may be shedding tears like a baby! Mat Duvall has always had good shoulder development but he says that in the last year they've grown to unbelievable proportions. He tortures his delts with three exercises (only 1 set per exercise) and does shrugs for his traps. Mat starts with dumbell side laterals--lining up the 75s, 45s, 25s, and the 15s. He pumps his delts with each pair until he's reached absolute failure and then proceeds to do even more damage by having his training partner spot him for 2 or 3 forced reps. When he hits the 15s his training partner pushes down on the dumbell to add resistance and Mat pauses at the peak of contraction, holding it at the top for a few painful seconds that must seem like an eternity. At this point Mat's delts are screaming for mercy but he continues to pound them with dumbell shoulder presses.

He proceeds to pick up heavy dumbells--as much as 150 pounds in each hand--and perform another 4 drop sets plus forced reps. He also does extra negatives on the final drop set to increase the torture on his delts and try to force them into growth. Next, Mat moves on to rear delts, which he assaults using either the rear-delt machine or standing rear laterals. For laterals he hits a triple-drop set without forced reps. He then finishes off with a triple-drop set of heavy shrugs. As you can see, this routine is really intense, and only for those with the courage and willpower to go deep into the pain zone, where only the biggest and strongest men venture.




ROFL
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:48:00 AM
hahahaaahhahah ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:49:15 AM
Why don`t you tell us what was REALLY responsible for your muscle gains there Matt?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 12, 2006, 07:49:20 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93869.0;attach=101718;image)

hahahahahahahahaha he tried it
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:50:30 AM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=93869.0;attach=101718;image)

hahahahahahahahaha he tried it

ROFLMAO!

I remember Matt once had an article where you were supposed to train your arms for like 20 hours.......You set your alarm clock,wake up and train your arms and have a shake. hahhah
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on September 12, 2006, 07:51:10 AM
Yeah, like an inch an hour or something. Then Vince Goodlips stole that. Put it with a bbq recipe and said he figured it out.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:56:24 AM
Blast your guns into a whole other: measurement!
Muscle & Fitness,  April, 2005  "The craziest arm workout I've ever done was when I was 18. I did a 12-
hour arm routine. Can you believe I was in the gym for 12 hours
straight?! At that time, I read a lot of bodybuilding magazines for tips
on training. I found the 12-hour arm routine in one of them. It was a
way to put one full inch onto each bicep in 12 hours. But it did work!
Every half hour, I switched a body part and did supersets, drop sets,
and forced reps. So, every half hour, I would train biceps or triceps.
Every hour, I drank a protein shake to keep myself fueled and to get
protein into the muscle. It was way intense, but it worked."
--Mat Duvall, IFBB pro
It's painful. It's downright nasty. It's the infamous one-day arm-workout blitz. Here's how you can add up to a whole inch to your arms after just a single workout. "Bodybuilding's Strongest Arms" Mat Duvall did it. Are you man enough to follow in his footsteps? If so, get ready for your hardest arm workout ever!

There probably isn't a bodybuilder on the planet, who hasn't looked at a guy with arms bigger than his own, and thought, "I want pipes like that. And I'll get them. It's just a matter of time."

Time indeed. Unless you're genetically blessed, it takes months--usually a few years--to make your biceps and triceps huge. You just don't grow overnight ... or do you?

It seems that short but brutally intense specialized workouts can definitely improve a lagging body part in a remarkably short time. In fact, big Mat Duvall tried such a program at the relatively young age of 18, and his testimonial from the previous page says it all. The one-day arm workout does indeed work! Now you can know the secret of the kind of super-intense program that built "Bodybuilding's Strongest Arms." The following pages outline a step-by-step program similar to the one Mat used. It's designed for one purpose only--to add up to one inch onto your pipes! Be warned: This routine is not for the weak. But if you want to put your arm development months (or even years) ahead of schedule, here's how to do it.

Preparing for the Armed Assault

Before you attempt a program this difficult, there are several things you need to do if you're going to have the arm workout of your life:

* Take four days off prior to this workout. That's right. No physical activity that's any more strenuous than video-gaming or channel-surfing. You'll need the energy!

* Consume a high-calorie diet four days in advance. You should eat six to eight meals a day. In particular, your protein consumption should be no less than 1.5 grams per pound of your bodyweight per day. Make sure you're eating lots of egg whites, chicken breasts, extra-lean beef, and a high-quality whey protein supplement such as NITRO-TECH[TM]. You're also going to need high amounts of carbohydrates to fuel your muscles. Focus on whole wheat pasta, brown rice, potatoes, fruit, and specific supplements for this glycogen-loading phase. And now for the workout! (Refer to the chart on the following page).

The Recovery Phase

Congratulations are in order if you've survived this workout! You are now a member of an elite few who can brag about it! And now it's time to wait for the results to start happening. Measure your arms 24 hours after your last rep. Impressed? It can get better. The real test is now one of patience. You have to stay out of the gym for another four days. That means no cardio, no weight training, and no extracurricular activity. For these four days, you should resume the same type of diet and supplement program as the four days prior to the blitz. This will ensure that you get enough of the major nutrients needed for serious arm mass.

After it's all said and done, get the tape measure out again and prepare for the shock of your life. You might have added up to a full, fresh inch onto your arms!

If you would like to try the same supplements that IFBB pro Mat "Bodybuilding's Strongest Arms" Duvall and other pro bodybuilders use. pick up CELL-TECH[TM] at GNC or your other local fine retailers. For more information, visit muscletech.com[TM]. All trademarks are owned by their trademark owners. [c] 2005 Iovate Copyright Ltd. All Rights Reserved.

RELATED ARTICLE: YOUR BIG ARM BLAST CHART

Finally, game day is here! The battle plan for the day's workout is very simple, yet it's difficult to stick to. It consists of 4 exercises broken into 2 supersets every half hour as follows:

Workout ONE (Superset)

1A: Barbell Curls 3 X 8 (10-rep max.)

* Load a straight bar with a weight that you can do for 10 good reps. Curl for 8 reps only, using strict form.

1B: Triceps Pushdowns 3 X 8 (10-rep max.)

* Pick a weight on pushdowns that you can do for 10 good reps, but only do 8, all with strict form. (This constitutes 1 superset. Perform 3 supersets, resting for only 30 seconds between each.)

Workout TWO (Superset)

2A: Seated Dumbell Curls 3 X 10 (12-rep max.)

* Grab a set of dumbells you can curl for 12 good reps, but only do 10, using strict form.

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:57:09 AM
2B: French Press (EZ-curl bar optional) 3 X 10 (12-rep max.)

* Now do the same for triceps by loading up the bar with a weight you can lift for 12 reps, and push out 10. (This constitutes 1 superset. Perform 3 supersets, resting only 30 seconds between each.)

ARM-AGEDDON DAY

6 a.m. Drink a serving of CELL-TECH[TM] with 20 oz. of water.

6:30 a.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH[R] with water.

7 a.m. Eat 2 whole eggs and 6 additional egg whites, plus 4 slices of whole wheat toast and jam.

7:30 a.m. Take pre-workout measurements, stretch out, and do two warm-up sets each of standing dumbell curls and triceps pushdowns.

8 a.m. Workout #1 (Barbell Curls/Triceps Pushdowns)

This should take approximately 5 minutes, after which you should rest until 8:30 a.m.).

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8:30 a.m. Workout #2 (Seated Dumbell Curls/French Press)

This should take approximately 5 minutes, after which you should rest until 9 a.m.).

8:45 a.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

9 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

9:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

10 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

10:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

11 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

11:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

Noon Repeat workout #1.

12:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

12:45 p.m. Eat a large meal of either chicken or beef, with rice or potatoes, and vegetables.

1 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

1:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

2 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

2:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

3 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

3:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

3:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

4 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

4:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

4:45 p.m. Drink a serving of CELL-TECH with 20 oz. of water.

5:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

6:30 p.m. Eat a large meal of either chicken or beef, with rice or potatoes, and vegetables.

7:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

Before Bed: Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH[R] in water with a banana blended in and start building muscle. (Refer back to "The Recovery Phase" on previous page.)

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 07:58:37 AM
Did you REALLY do that routine Matt?

OR are you just full of shit?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 07:59:49 AM
2B: French Press (EZ-curl bar optional) 3 X 10 (12-rep max.)

* Now do the same for triceps by loading up the bar with a weight you can lift for 12 reps, and push out 10. (This constitutes 1 superset. Perform 3 supersets, resting only 30 seconds between each.)

ARM-AGEDDON DAY

6 a.m. Drink a serving of CELL-TECH[TM] with 20 oz. of water.

6:30 a.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH[R] with water.

7 a.m. Eat 2 whole eggs and 6 additional egg whites, plus 4 slices of whole wheat toast and jam.

7:30 a.m. Take pre-workout measurements, stretch out, and do two warm-up sets each of standing dumbell curls and triceps pushdowns.

8 a.m. Workout #1 (Barbell Curls/Triceps Pushdowns)

This should take approximately 5 minutes, after which you should rest until 8:30 a.m.).

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8:30 a.m. Workout #2 (Seated Dumbell Curls/French Press)

This should take approximately 5 minutes, after which you should rest until 9 a.m.).

8:45 a.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

9 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

9:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

10 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

10:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

11 a.m. Repeat workout #1.

11:30 a.m. Repeat workout #2.

Noon Repeat workout #1.

12:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

12:45 p.m. Eat a large meal of either chicken or beef, with rice or potatoes, and vegetables.

1 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

1:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

2 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

2:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

3 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

3:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

3:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

4 p.m. Repeat workout #1.

4:30 p.m. Repeat workout #2.

4:45 p.m. Drink a serving of CELL-TECH with 20 oz. of water.

5:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

6:30 p.m. Eat a large meal of either chicken or beef, with rice or potatoes, and vegetables.

7:45 p.m. Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH in water with a banana blended in.

Before Bed: Drink a full serving of NITRO-TECH[R] in water with a banana blended in and start building muscle. (Refer back to "The Recovery Phase" on previous page.)


also before bed insert IV with Cell-Tech and Nito-Tech in the IV bag so you don't get "catabolic" overnight, hahahaha.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 08:05:36 AM
hahhahahahhahah.  I remember a dude at the gym discussing doing this workout.

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: jaejonna on September 12, 2006, 08:06:39 AM
hahhahahahhahah.  I remember a dude at the gym discussing doing this workout.


I bet he was on the otherside of the gym. With EARS like yours you can hear me laughing right now in NY hahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Fury on September 12, 2006, 08:07:27 AM
I bet he was on the otherside of the gym. With EARS like yours you can hear me laughing right now in NY hahahahahahahahahaha

How does one get a gut at 110 pounds?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 08:08:52 AM
How does one get a gut at 110 pounds?
it's his incredible Filipino/Mexican genetics, hahahahaha, what a combo. ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 08:08:59 AM
Where the hell do you guys get off telling a pro that he is lying about his routine? What’s a waste of time and what not...Dude post your pic next to Duvall's. Fucking peanut gallery always has something to say. What did Martin say about critics? "Critics criticize people on some shit they can’t do. You want something to criticize... Criticize deez nuts.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: UK Gold on September 12, 2006, 08:09:45 AM
I hate to agree with Sarcasm and his faghags but you're full of shit Matt. 405 behind the neck presses when you were 18? Presumeably this was pre gear making you a genuine super human.

You don't need to lie about your lifts. You're a great bodybuilder. Just be honest.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 08:16:21 AM
the 405 behind the neck is pretty damn strong for an 18 year old but how can you say someone is just lying like that. Thats a tough accusation.

p.s. When I was in the 10th grade I was 150 and I squatted 405 and I thought that was pretty strong...Fucked my back off for the whole weekend though.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Fury on September 12, 2006, 08:20:05 AM
the 405 behind the neck is pretty damn strong for an 18 year old but how can you say someone is just lying like that. Thats a tough accusation.

p.s. When I was in the 10th grade I was 150 and I squatted 405 and I thought that was pretty strong...Fucked my back off for the whole weekend though.

Going to call bullshit on that one, too.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 08:28:30 AM
na straight up. I have always had pretty strong legs. and Like i said my back couldnt take it. But it was like max's for football and I got up 4 plates on squats once.

But about the powerbuilding lift heavy as shit approach to bodybuilding. I thought it would be damn near impossible to recover and sustain that for an extended period of time. Like I did that shit for like 2 months and yeah i got strong amd big as hell but damn near every joint was constantly in pain. Especially my shoulders. My body couldnt take that kind of training. I went back to the blood volume training, the gains arent as fast but Im pain and injury free.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: davidpaul on September 12, 2006, 08:29:32 AM
I would love to see a 6 plate shoulder press, the 5 plate hammer stenght shoudler press isnt anything to write home about for a juicer, ive done 4 plates for a few, and dont consider myself to be particurlarly strong.

Another lying bodybuilder.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 08:31:02 AM
I would love to see a 6 plate shoulder press, the 5 plate hammer stenght shoudler press isnt anything to write home about for a juicer, ive done 4 plates for a few, and dont consider myself to be particurlarly strong.

Another lying bodybuilder.
not to mention that DuVall has the typical machine built drug built Markus Ruhl type body, without the legs.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 12, 2006, 08:31:36 AM
Did you REALLY do that routine Matt?

OR are you just full of shit?

looks like you got your answer adonis.

amazing when you start cross-examining these guys they whimper back to mayhem to get their dic...err egos stroked again. 'those nasty get biggers!'

these guys spew so much shit they start believing it themselves. shoulder press 635 4 2 + forced! with drops!!! lmfao

mat wants us to believe he's hard core but the inflated poundages just make me doubt his cred with everything he says, just like most pro bbs.

good job adonis, sarcasm, etc. keep it real.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: davidpaul on September 12, 2006, 08:33:36 AM
not to mention that DuVall has the typical machine built drug built Markus Ruhl type body, without the legs.

matt duval isnt strong for a juicer, his claim to fame is cheat curling heavy dumbells, big fucking deal.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 08:35:55 AM
looks like you got your answer adonis.

amazing when you start cross-examining these guys they whimper back to mayhem to get their dic...err egos stroked again. 'those nasty get biggers!'

these guys spew so much shit they start believing it themselves. shoulder press 635 4 2 + forced! with drops!!! lmfao

mat wants us to believe he's hard core but the inflated poundages just make me doubt his cred with everything he says, just like most pro bbs.

good job adonis, sarcasm, etc. keep it real.
hahahaha, he;s probably over there telling Massive G and all the rest of the dipshits about how he shoulder presses 750 for 5 and eats 1500 grams of protein a day and loves Muscletech supplements.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Fury on September 12, 2006, 08:37:33 AM
hahahaha, he;s probably over there telling Massive G and all the rest of the dipshits about how he shoulder presses 750 for 5 and eats 1500 grams of protein a day and loves Muscletech supplements.

hahaha, I heard he could bench press a pickup truck at 22.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 08:40:24 AM
hahaha, I heard he could bench press a pickup truck at 22.
well he does have the World's Strongest, Biggest Arms. ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: The True Adonis on September 12, 2006, 08:41:59 AM
hahaha, I heard he could bench press a pickup truck at 22.

HERE IS THE FUNNY:

All of his Supposed Strength Feats were performed in his early 20s`s

BEFORE  Muscletech even met with this clown.
That Nitro-Tech,Cell-Tech must have been real effective because he continually got weaker. hahhahah
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Fury on September 12, 2006, 08:43:53 AM
HERE IS THE FUNNY:

All of his Supposed Strength Feats were performed in his early 20s`s

BEFORE  Muscletech even met with this clown.
That Nitro-Tech,Cell-Tech must have been real effective because he continually got weaker. hahhahah


hahahaha Adonis, are you suggesting that throwing away hundreds, if not thousands of dollars per year on shitty muscletech products will actually make me smaller? Oh brother, I would probably end up looking like JaeJonna.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 08:48:58 AM
Im not a muscletech fan either. Awsome marketing, so/so products...GAKIC that was funny.  But is there a line of supplements that anyone would call superior?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: DekeP on September 12, 2006, 08:52:51 AM
Matt, good to see your posts on this thread.  But yeh, sometimes you can't win with these guys.  Anyway, I haven't seen anything from you for awhile, so it's good to know you're still around.  I really hope things work out for you to do the training video you mentioned.  You're one of the most intelligent guys I've ever talked with about training.

All best!  
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Bear on September 12, 2006, 08:53:37 AM
Ronnie only does the 160's for partials, care to take back your statement?

for 12 whole ones mofo

well whole-ish
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on September 12, 2006, 08:55:07 AM
for 12 whole ones mofo

well whole-ish
wrong, on Cost of Redemption he does 6 partial reps, he even asks his spotter what he got and the spotter says, "six".
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mars on September 12, 2006, 08:56:52 AM
Maybe Matt brags about his lifts to impress The Squad.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: HUGEPECS on September 12, 2006, 09:03:45 AM
No...

I did not say any of this to "own" anyone...I just wanted to be clear/ honest...A lot of strong bodybuilders are not always the biggest bodybuilders...

I have picked up on the fact that sarcasm definitely is not a fan of mine...this is his right and I do not mind. Time to time he has posted things that were his opinions of my physique...and again he has the right to do so. I would not attack him just to make a point or try to make myself look good...I just, again, wanted to set the record straight....

Take care...



what's up Matt, I haven't seen you at any show or expos lately. Are you gonna be at the Olympia Expo?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 12, 2006, 09:13:15 AM


what's up Matt, I haven't seen you at any show or expos lately. Are you gonna be at the Olympia Expo?

he probably got fronted on some of his cell tech claims.

won't be seeing him again.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: nycbull on September 12, 2006, 09:37:07 AM
dudes you gonna lose another pro..he came here to set things straight and find some support. Can't you let a few exaggerations go here and there. We need another pro and he can speak standard English!!!, aren't you guys getting tired of Chick?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: HUGEPECS on September 12, 2006, 09:49:26 AM
dudes you gonna lose another pro..he came here to set things straight and find some support. Can't you let a few exaggerations go here and there. We need another pro and he can speak standard English!!!, aren't you guys getting tired of Chick?



I've hear other Pros who trained with Matt, and they said he's one strong Mofo.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Fury on September 12, 2006, 09:50:25 AM
dudes you gonna lose another pro..he came here to set things straight and find some support. Can't you let a few exaggerations go here and there. We need another pro and he can speak standard English!!!, aren't you guys getting tired of Chick?

Who gives a flying fuck. If he has to lie about his lifts, who knows what else he's willing to lie about?
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: nycbull on September 12, 2006, 10:09:30 AM
Who gives a flying f**k. If he has to lie about his lifts, who knows what else he's willing to lie about?

so debate with him, why run him off like he is some muslim terrorists. You guys would be more accomodating to a Al-Queda lackie.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: IceCold on September 12, 2006, 12:35:06 PM
mat seems like a good guy, but once he said he BNP 405 at age 18?

c'mon now.

how many guys can do that after years of lifting and juicing - let alone some mo who just graduated high school?

the 165 lbs. guys benching 500 and 600 lbs.  how did you work out with mat?  that would make them world record holders.  also, when you were 18, no one at that weight was anywhere near that poundage.  a lot has changed sincen then in terms of bench shirts, etc. 


i remember seeing the pics of trevor and mat on the nuclear nutrition site, but the pics where never of them actually doing the lifts.  the pics showed that they were about to do them , ex. sitting in smith machine with bar in top postion, holding dumbells but not putting them through the range of motion. for 3 years, people questioned trevor's claims and for 3 years trevor talked about making a video.  never did happen. 


anyone have BFTO 02.  mat trains with titus doing legs.  while craig is talking, mat is in the background (wearing a bandana and fubu jersey i might ad) and with 6 plates on the hack machine you can see mat's legs shaking through his baggy yellow pants meaning the weight was heavy. 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: HERACLES on September 12, 2006, 01:11:27 PM
No melt downs...someone's perceptions are their reality...and it is not my place to argue that...Is my back my best bodypart...definitely not...early on?...I allowed my arms to do most of the work...not properly stimulating the back...In the past 2 years?...seperating my back training into upper and lower back training sessions has helped tremendously...Legs?...I always had thick lower leg development from power style leg training...but never isolated outer and upper quads...again, something I have corrected.

Sadly, a lot of meltdowns are brought on by the insecurities that stereotype bodybuilders..." I am the biggest"..."I am the strongest"..."watch out next time because I am going to recreate myself!"...All this is lunacy. I just love to train, and learn new ways to continue making progress...

I never made a training video due to the fact that doing it right? can be costly...and I wanted to make something worth buying...Now, after the show(s), I want to make a video of my power style training...the techniques I learned from Trevor...known as his Beyond Failure Training, and since my injury how I had to learn in certain situations to make less weight feel like more. Also so footage of wrestling...we will see. This way people can see me training and God willing respect at least how hard I train...the effort that goes into building a physique...

So well said.  8)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Mat DuVall on September 12, 2006, 01:45:24 PM
Ok...I am very tired...just trained...like a girl as I am extremly depleted...but I am going to do my best to clarify, then it is time to move on...

#1- I have not posted at Mayhem for quite some time...a very long time. I cannot stop anyone from copying and sticking posts from here over there...this is not my fault. I posted once or twice on Milo's board this week, but since have posted only here....

#2- I do not need my ego stroked by anyone and prefer the criticism I get here as it, in a healthy way fuels my training....

#3- Yes, I have been with Muscletech for 8 years, and they have treated me extremly well...I would think it would mean something that I stayed with a supplement company...instead of going from company to company to company as a lot in the industry have...I use the products I endorse, but have never said this is the only reason I am developed the way I am...

     guys...Bodybuilding is not addition and subtraction...it is algebra...meaning? 1+1 does not equal a pro physique, no. Instead a+b+c+d can maybe get you to E...

     One on One with any of you? I would love to talk candidly about the decisions athletes have to make. I do not ask for sympathy as it is my choice(s) and I will have to answer for these choices one day, plain and simple....I struggle with a lot of them on a daily basis. DO NOT ASSUME THAT I CLAIM ONLY MY TRAINING, OR ONLY A SUPPLEMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MY BODY...You would be wrong in doing so...

I cannot remember every post, but I am going to make this offer...since Sarcasm seems to be gaining some support...after the Olympia, or Euro tour should I compete in it...I will fly Sarcasm here to my home and have him train with me...in the gym, AND IN THE RING...PICTURES CAN BE TAKEN...VIDEO...WHATEVER HE LIKES...Once he signs a waiver of some kind or another...he will be asked to see and live life as I do for several days...Will I be able to perform every single lift I have in the past?...No, but I am confident that I will be good enough for him to walk away with a different perspective...I will not try to hurt him, or be disresepectful to him in any way...I just want him to have the chance to see how I live...the Muscletech products I use every day...the food I take in every day...and even post contest how I train...BOTH IN A GYM, AND GETTING BACK IN THE RING...HE WILL BE EXPECTED TO PARTICIPATE 100%....I do not know his age, but assuming he is over 18, the ball is now in his court. Oh, and yes I will give him a chance on video...in the middle of a ring to call me a liar to my face...(just kidding)...Let me know Sarcasm....

Be well...Mat
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: michael arvilla on September 12, 2006, 01:50:12 PM
hmmmmm................ki nna like the "WEEKEND WITH RONNIE COLEMAN"

go for it sarcasm................. .sounds like fun actually (plus you can learn a lot )



not a bad deal
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Option D on September 12, 2006, 01:50:43 PM
Man..Matt why in the hell are you entertaining this twerp. You just made is day by letting him get to you. You dont have to prove anything to the peanut gallery. Your body does all the talking.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: HUGEPECS on September 12, 2006, 02:07:27 PM
Ok...I am very tired...just trained...like a girl as I am extremly depleted...but I am going to do my best to clarify, then it is time to move on...

#1- I have not posted at Mayhem for quite some time...a very long time. I cannot stop anyone from copying and sticking posts from here over there...this is not my fault. I posted once or twice on Milo's board this week, but since have posted only here....

#2- I do not need my ego stroked by anyone and prefer the criticism I get here as it, in a healthy way fuels my training....

#3- Yes, I have been with Muscletech for 8 years, and they have treated me extremly well...I would think it would mean something that I stayed with a supplement company...instead of going from company to company to company as a lot in the industry have...I use the products I endorse, but have never said this is the only reason I am developed the way I am...

     guys...Bodybuilding is not addition and subtraction...it is algebra...meaning? 1+1 does not equal a pro physique, no. Instead a+b+c+d can maybe get you to E...

     One on One with any of you? I would love to talk candidly about the decisions athletes have to make. I do not ask for sympathy as it is my choice(s) and I will have to answer for these choices one day, plain and simple....I struggle with a lot of them on a daily basis. DO NOT ASSUME THAT I CLAIM ONLY MY TRAINING, OR ONLY A SUPPLEMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MY BODY...You would be wrong in doing so...

I cannot remember every post, but I am going to make this offer...since Sarcasm seems to be gaining some support...after the Olympia, or Euro tour should I compete in it...I will fly Sarcasm here to my home and have him train with me...in the gym, AND IN THE RING...PICTURES CAN BE TAKEN...VIDEO...WHATEVER HE LIKES...Once he signs a waiver of some kind or another...he will be asked to see and live life as I do for several days...Will I be able to perform every single lift I have in the past?...No, but I am confident that I will be good enough for him to walk away with a different perspective...I will not try to hurt him, or be disresepectful to him in any way...I just want him to have the chance to see how I live...the Muscletech products I use every day...the food I take in every day...and even post contest how I train...BOTH IN A GYM, AND GETTING BACK IN THE RING...HE WILL BE EXPECTED TO PARTICIPATE 100%....I do not know his age, but assuming he is over 18, the ball is now in his court. Oh, and yes I will give him a chance on video...in the middle of a ring to call me a liar to my face...(just kidding)...Let me know Sarcasm....

Be well...Mat



wELL, SARCASM, IT'S TIME TO STOP TALKING SHYT AND MEET MATT'S CHALLENGE. GO AHEAD AND REPRESENT GETBIG. IF NOT, YOUR REPUTATION WILL BE RUINED FOREVER
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Stavios on September 12, 2006, 02:13:17 PM
Wow great offer Mat !

Sarcasm, if I was you I'd do it
you have nothing to lose and everything to gain !
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Colby on September 12, 2006, 02:15:31 PM
You Sire Sarcasm, have been called out.  I can't wait to read your responce.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: HUGEPECS on September 12, 2006, 02:17:17 PM
You Sire Sarcasm, have been called out.  I can't wait to read your responce.



SARCASM WILL PUNKED OUT. HE AINT GONNA SHOW UP
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Jujoshu on September 12, 2006, 02:30:12 PM
Who cares if he lifts what he once claimed? He's still a strong guy and has a big physique. It amazes me
the guys on here who wet their pants over what Gunter or Joe Blow or whomever claims to lift. Maybe if they focused on themselves more and started actually training they might look like more than a pile of crap.

BTW-You think anyone is going to slam a supplement company they are getting paid from??
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: jmt1 on September 12, 2006, 02:31:06 PM


I've hear other Pros who trained with Matt, and they said he's one strong Mofo.

yeah he is, i trained at a gym that has a very hardcore rep and has turned out alot of pros...mat is one of the strongest,if not the strongest i have ever seen.

like i said i have personaly seen him shoulder press the 190s for reps.

the weights he listed for his training with trevor smith are on a smith machine...for someone of his strenght that is believable.

the funny thing is some of the people calling him a liar have posted their workouts on here....which include 10 mins of push ups and grabbing some bitch weight and doing 15 min sets...lol
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: IceCold on September 12, 2006, 02:38:28 PM
mat,

you sure you want to do that for sarcasm?

he could come over and no one could hear or see you ever again. 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: siouxcountry on September 12, 2006, 02:47:07 PM
Quote
wELL, SARCASM, IT'S TIME TO STOP TALKING SHYT AND MEET MATT'S CHALLENGE. GO AHEAD AND REPRESENT GETBIG. IF NOT, YOUR REPUTATION WILL BE RUINED FOREVER

Ok, Sarcasm, lets see if you are more than just an Internet bully.

Matt, you seem like a cool guy. Who were the guys under 200 pounds who Military Pressed 400? Man thats a ton of weight to press.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: MAXX on September 12, 2006, 03:10:26 PM
Sarcasm will never do it. the little bitch and will punk out.

besides i think Sarcasm is TA's gimmic account
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sgt. d on September 12, 2006, 03:42:24 PM
Sarcasm will never do it. the little bitch and will punk out.

besides i think Sarcasm is TA's gimmic account

You are correct. Sarcasm is TA

Also Hedge is Mars :)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 12, 2006, 07:57:20 PM
Well Mat, I also think you're full of shit (S.P 635 4 2 reps + forced and drops) and I'll gladly take that challenge on YOUR DIME.

I won't go near your strength claims and you'll well and truly kick my ass in the weights, but I'll very gladly meet you in the ring for the video in an mma bout. That part would be fun. Not trying to be a tough guy (it's your challenge), but it'd be cool to see if you guys can actually fight.

sign me up baby!
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: brianX on September 12, 2006, 08:19:24 PM
Are you sure you mean Military Presses and not Push Presses? Was it full range?

It's impossible. Nobody at that bodyweight has ever done a full military press with 400 lb. Paul Anderson and Doug Hepburn could press around 400 overhead on a good day, and they were two of the strongest men who ever lived.

The bench presses are bullshit too. Mike MacDonald is the lightest man to bench 600, and he still weighed around 240 lb. There is no way a 165 lb guy at Mattie's gym benched anywhere near 600. Even 500 would be pretty unbelievable, unless his gym is full of world record holders. ::)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Stavios on September 12, 2006, 08:33:12 PM
It's impossible. Nobody at that bodyweight has ever done a full military press with 400 lb. Paul Anderson and Doug Hepburn could press around 400 overhead on a good day, and they were two of the strongest men who ever lived.

The bench presses are bullshit too. Mike MacDonald is the lightest man to bench 600, and he still weighed around 240 lb. There is no way a 165 lb guy at Mattie's gym benched anywhere near 600. Even 500 would be pretty unbelievable, unless his gym is full of world record holders. ::)

A guy at my gym had the world bench press record in 2004, I think he got beat this year but he did 405 at a bodyweight of 161 if I remember well

No way a guy that size could bench in the 500s
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Big Worm on September 12, 2006, 09:15:40 PM
What a sweet deal....You have to be shittin me...?? Sarcasm..man up!!!   Are you just some internet punk with no pride...Or do you stand behind your insults,and are going to prove Mat wrong???!!!!

 
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 12, 2006, 10:22:53 PM
it'd be awesome and you've gotta respect mat for putting up the challenge. i like the way he conducts himself, but his strength claims = BULL SHIT.

as i said, if sarcasm doesn't want to take the offer i will.

i'll even make a wager:

1. if mat can back up 80% of his strength claims on the shoulder press.

2. if he lasts one 5 minute round with me without submitting or being stopped.

either of these 2 under ufc/pride rules and i'll give him $30 000 u.s!

if he doesn't, he pays me $30 000 u.s.

we'll both give 30 000 to ron and winner takes all!
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 13, 2006, 12:09:44 AM
jeez louise, what are you waiting for mat?!

this should be the easiest 30 grand you ever make!

after all, im just some internet geek with my pens and pencils and shit.

come take my $30 000!!!
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: the shadow on September 13, 2006, 12:27:01 AM
this mat duvall sucks..no way he ever did a 405lbs shoulder press..hell ronnie only did 1 rep with 405lbs being his max weight ever to shoulder press..this guy is a fake ass...
MAT DUVALL=OWNED
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: MP on September 13, 2006, 02:07:25 PM
Do some of you guys even lift?

I believe it.  I can do that 100s and im just the average weight lifter.  He is a pro who uses gear.....so he better be able to do around that much.

That pretty much sums it up. The 190 weight is not hard to believe.

As an aside, I don’t get as much time to spend on this board as I’d like. I think it’s very cool that a guy like Matt (a pro) would take time to post. I think I’ve only met one or two pro bodybuilders in person in my life. Matt was one of them. Ran into him in the Atlanta airport a few years ago. From his frowning pics in the magazines, I thought he was a mean dude. In person, he was very friendly and pleasant.

The Internet and the magazines aren’t always a good indicator of reality.

The gym is reality, and weights don’t lie. Would be cool to see sarcasm accept a challenge in the real world.

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: toolarge4u on September 13, 2006, 02:09:38 PM
this mat duvall sucks..no way he ever did a 405lbs shoulder press..hell ronnie only did 1 rep with 405lbs being his max weight ever to shoulder press..this guy is a fake ass...
MAT DUVALL=OWNED
ronnie did it free weight, matt probably did it on a smith machine. Its alot easier an lighter.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: TDK on September 13, 2006, 02:49:16 PM
I'm not going to say whether I think his lifts are true because I dont really care...however these are the following lifts he has listed on the Muscletech site.  So why does it list 175lbs max DB incline press for 8 when he states he can shoulder press 190lbs?....

Full Name: Matthew Thomas Duvall
Nick Name: Mad Dog
Place of Birth: Prince William County, Virginia
Date of Birth: October 31, 1972
Residence: Northern Virginia
Occupation: IFBB professional bodybuilder, self-employed general contractor
Height: 6'0"
Contest Weight: 260 lbs.
Off-Season Weight: 315 lbs.
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Chest (contest): 60"
Arms (contest): 22"
Waist (contest): 34"
Thighs (contest): 30"
Bench Press: 405 lbs. x 8 reps
Incline Dumbell Press: 175 lbs. x 8 reps
Deadlift: 585 lbs. x 6 reps
Squat: 545 lbs. x 6 reps
Biggest Influence: His father, Barry R. Duvall Sr.
Something interesting few people know about Mat:
One of his biggest feats was benching over 500 lbs. at the age of 20.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: IFBBwannaB on September 13, 2006, 04:32:14 PM
then you're a freak of nature if you're doing full reps.


LOL you are showing what a big pussy you are.
I did similar weights when I turned 18,before ever touching any Proten powder or anything else.

Sarcasm aka weak mofo.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on September 15, 2006, 11:08:57 PM
bump

just to show what these blown up feather weights are really made of.

when it comes time to back up their claims they have 'precontest prep' to do.

precontest prep: let me see - gear, eat, gear, eat, diuretic, gear, eat, gear, eat, sleep, gear,...
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: MCWAY on September 17, 2006, 03:10:16 PM
hahhahahahhahah.  I remember a dude at the gym discussing doing this workout.



This type of workout has been around for decades. IronMan featured something similar, based on an article by the magazine's founder, Peary Rader. The program was titled "Add a Half-Inch on Your arms in One Day". The concept was the same: Doing antagonistic supersets for biceps and triceps at the top and bottom of the hour for eight to nine hours. The exercises done at the top of the hour were EZ-Curl Bar barbell curls and lying triceps extensions (French presses); those done at the bottom of the hour were seated dumbbell curls and lying dumbbel triceps extensions.

The rest period, prior to trying this program is three days, instead of four, like that of MuscleTech.  IronMan does instruct to rest (no training) for three days, followed by a light training day on the fourth day. The diet portion doesn't go into detail, as does the program described by MuscleTech. IronMan simply recommends six high-protein meals throughout the day (no specific times given). IronMan also recommends rubbing the arms with alcohol, prior to bedtime, after doing this routine.

IronMan claims that this program can be used on 60 to 90-day intervals.

Rader claimed he put on 3/4" on his arms doing it. Old-school bodybuilder and IM writer Gene Mozee said he got 5/8" gain on his arm.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Peaking at 45 !!! on September 17, 2006, 04:12:10 PM
This type of workout has been around for decades. IronMan featured something similar, based on an article by the magazine's founder, Peary Rader. The program was titled "Add a Half-Inch on Your arms in One Day". The concept was the same: Doing antagonistic supersets for biceps and triceps at the top and bottom of the hour for eight to nine hours. The exercises done at the top of the hour were EZ-Curl Bar barbell curls and lying triceps extensions (French presses); those done at the bottom of the hour were seated dumbbell curls and lying dumbbel triceps extensions.

The rest period, prior to trying this program is three days, instead of four, like that of MuscleTech.  IronMan does instruct to rest (no training) for three days, followed by a light training day on the fourth day. The diet portion doesn't go into detail, as does the program described by MuscleTech. IronMan simply recommends six high-protein meals throughout the day (no specific times given). IronMan also recommends rubbing the arms with alcohol, prior to bedtime, after doing this routine.

IronMan claims that this program can be used on 60 to 90-day intervals.

Rader claimed he put on 3/4" on his arms doing it. Old-school bodybuilder and IM writer Gene Mozee said he got 5/8" gain on his arm.

I have actually done the all day arm routine (twice).

The first time I gained (permanently) 3/8" to my arms (I was in full training so it was not after a layoff where gains are easy.

The 2nd time I only gained barely 1/8 of an inch (not even 1/8th of an inch)

Each time I did not do anything out of the ordinary such as massive supplements, eating,  or rubbing alcohol, etc.

About halfway thru the day, you start to get worn out by the routine (physically and mentally), but ya just keep[ going.

The 1st time i did it still makes me laugh------I did the routine at home (I have weights at home too), and I remember loading my E-Z curl bar and weights into my van, I had some things to get at the store, and I remember doing curls and standing triceps extensions in the parking lot of K-Mart !!!!!!

The routine has worked for me !!!     Good Luck ! ;)
P.S. the routine I did was about 8 or 9 hours---it was definitely not a 12 hour routine !
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: tommywishbone on September 17, 2006, 04:28:13 PM
Wow! Some of those pressing poundages are phenomenal. I trained many times with World Champion & World record holder Lee Moran (RIP), at Iron Island in Alameda, Ca. He was without a doubt one of the strongest all-around lifters with regards to pressing movements. His BP PR in competition USPF, T-shirt & wrestling singlet, was 617.3 His gym pressing strength was legendary, but his numbers did not really come very close, to the numbers quoted earlier in this thread. Incredible poundages indeed.

Great Lee Moran action. www.criticalbench.com/Lee-Moran-Squat.htm  (http://www.criticalbench.com/Lee-Moran-Squat.htm)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: MCWAY on September 17, 2006, 06:24:13 PM
I have actually done the all day arm routine (twice).

The first time I gained (permanently) 3/8" to my arms (I was in full training so it was not after a layoff where gains are easy.

The 2nd time I only gained barely 1/8 of an inch (not even 1/8th of an inch)

Each time I did not do anything out of the ordinary such as massive supplements, eating,  or rubbing alcohol, etc.

About halfway thru the day, you start to get worn out by the routine (physically and mentally), but ya just keep[ going.

The 1st time i did it still makes me laugh------I did the routine at home (I have weights at home too), and I remember loading my E-Z curl bar and weights into my van, I had some things to get at the store, and I remember doing curls and standing triceps extensions in the parking lot of K-Mart !!!!!!

The routine has worked for me !!!     Good Luck ! ;)
P.S. the routine I did was about 8 or 9 hours---it was definitely not a 12 hour routine !

I may try this routine during Christmas time, when I have some vacation coming. I may have to borrow my neighbor's cement weights and, perhaps, his narrow little Weider bench with the lat pulldown apparatus to do triceps pushdowns.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on October 22, 2006, 03:27:25 AM
it'd be awesome and you've gotta respect mat for putting up the challenge. i like the way he conducts himself, but his strength claims = BULL SHIT.

as i said, if sarcasm doesn't want to take the offer i will.

i'll even make a wager:

1. if mat can back up 80% of his strength claims on the shoulder press.

2. if he lasts one 5 minute round with me without submitting or being stopped.

EITHER of these 2 under ufc/pride rules and i'll give him $30 000 u.s!

if he doesn't, he pays me $30 000 u.s.

we'll both give 30 000 to ron and winner takes all!

bump: i read alex piping about matt still talking shit about an offer and i just want to make it clear that i am very serious. I don't know if sarcasm exists/wants to do it but i am very legite.

i believe that pro wrestlers are licensed. is that true matt? if so neither one of us will have to sign waivers. the fight could very easily be sanctioned and then promoted by getbig itself. we'll up the stakes if you want (if you have the cash).

make no mistake about it though matt, i am for real. i wouldn't even know how to do that fake stuff and i'll be fucked if i'm going to let your 350lb ass toss me around and drop on me.

no offence matt. you seem like a nice bloke but my aim is to put a hurting on you and i expect you to do your best to do the same to me.

enough talk. let's 'GET IT ON!'
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on October 22, 2006, 07:36:19 AM
it'd be awesome and you've gotta respect mat for putting up the challenge. i like the way he conducts himself, but his strength claims = BULL SHIT.

as i said, if sarcasm doesn't want to take the offer i will.

i'll even make a wager:

1. if mat can back up 80% of his strength claims on the shoulder press.

2. if he lasts one 5 minute round with me without submitting or being stopped.

EITHER of these 2 under ufc/pride rules and i'll give him $30 000 u.s!

if he doesn't, he pays me $30 000 u.s.

we'll both give 30 000 to ron and winner takes all!

bump: i read alex piping about matt still talking shit about an offer and i just want to make it clear that i am very serious. I don't know if sarcasm exists/wants to do it but i am very legite.

i believe that pro wrestlers are licensed. is that true matt? if so neither one of us will have to sign waivers. the fight could very easily be sanctioned and then promoted by getbig itself. we'll up the stakes if you want (if you have the cash).

make no mistake about it though matt, i am for real. i wouldn't even know how to do that fake stuff and i'll be fucked if i'm going to let your 350lb ass toss me around and drop on me.

no offence matt. you seem like a nice bloke but my aim is to put a hurting on you and i expect you to do your best to do the same to me.

enough talk. let's 'GET IT ON!'
Matt is chickenshit and scared, he's not going to be back, i totally embarassed him on here and exposed him for the phony he is.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Clubber Lang on October 22, 2006, 07:43:30 AM
i always thought matt would look super fantastic with a giant S on his baldspot
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: sarcasm on October 22, 2006, 07:48:14 AM
Hey guys...someone just emailed me about this topic...

Whether you believe it or not...at Diamond Gym in Maplewood, NJ around 1998/1999...I did use the 190 lb dumbells for a set of partial press shoulder presses. When I say partial I do not mean bouncing them...I just did not lock out at the top....if I remember correct it was for a set of 3-4 reps...

Shoulder presses, in any form, have always been a movement that I did have freakish strength. At the age of 18 I could behind the neck press with 405, which lead to my earliest injuries...it was not smart....On the hammer military press I can do a set of 12, depending on the day and my energy levels, loaded with 5 plates on each side....when I was training with Trevor Smith, RIP,Trevor pushed me to new levels of strength...Front military press on the Smith machines?..a set looked like this:

635 x 2, with 1 forced....
drop the weight to:
495 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
315 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
225 x 2-4, with 1 forced
drop the weight to:
135 x failure...usually only 4-6 reps
then doing partial with this for what seemed an eternity, and then...
dropping to the bar only to have Trevor lean on it while I had to complete 4-6 full reps...

I know there are going to be those that do not beleive...but many forget I spent from age 13-20/21 training with world champion power lifters...these guys were mutants!...they were so strong and I was lucky that they taught me that inorder to build solid base I needed to be as strong as I wanted to look.

Now?...I have a lot of injuries, but many fond memories of great training sessions...the 190's at Diamond Gym would not have been so hard to move had they not been so long...anyone that has ever trained there or seen older style dumbells like this? they were harder to balance side to side than they were to move up and down...

Ronnie is awesome, and very strong...but just so you guys know?...I have trained with power lifters that were in the 165lb class...and could military press over 400 pounds...some of them benched in the mid 500's to low 600lb range...they did not look like bodybuilders...strength and cosmetics are too very different things....

 
hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! i just re read this post and it's even more ridiculous now as it was a month and a half ago.
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Naked4Jesus on October 22, 2006, 07:57:29 AM
No melt downs...someone's perceptions are their reality...and it is not my place to argue that...Is my back my best bodypart...definitely not...early on?...I allowed my arms to do most of the work...not properly stimulating the back...In the past 2 years?...seperating my back training into upper and lower back training sessions has helped tremendously...Legs?...I always had thick lower leg development from power style leg training...but never isolated outer and upper quads...again, something I have corrected.

Sadly, a lot of meltdowns are brought on by the insecurities that stereotype bodybuilders..." I am the biggest"..."I am the strongest"..."watch out next time because I am going to recreate myself!"...All this is lunacy. I just love to train, and learn new ways to continue making progress...

I never made a training video due to the fact that doing it right? can be costly...and I wanted to make something worth buying...Now, after the show(s), I want to make a video of my power style training...the techniques I learned from Trevor...known as his Beyond Failure Training, and since my injury how I had to learn in certain situations to make less weight feel like more. Also so footage of wrestling...we will see. This way people can see me training and God willing respect at least how hard I train...the effort that goes into building a physique...

You're too short for wrestling.   Try musclehunks.com  they have work for you.
 
Hope this helps.

N4J
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: SteelePegasus on October 22, 2006, 09:45:41 AM
I am not doubting Matt...

lol, but I am always amazed how bodybuilders are lifting weight the powerlifters would be proud of. Especially since they train for hypertrophy and powerlifters train for strength.


it would seem that the powerlifters are training the wrong way...they need more muscletech.



Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Sculpter on October 22, 2006, 10:11:37 AM
Of course I believe this.I also believe all the stats for the pros waist sizes also! ;)
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: siouxcountry on October 22, 2006, 04:48:02 PM
Pro bodybuilders don't lie.  ;D
Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: Atlantic on October 23, 2006, 09:00:03 AM
Once I read an article that he did DB curls with 145lbs for 9 reps.

Hard to believe

Title: Re: Poll about Matt Duvall: Does anyone believe this?
Post by: BEAST 8692 on October 23, 2006, 09:40:18 AM
Once I read an article that he did DB curls with 145lbs for 9 reps.

Hard to believe



easier to believe than 635lb shoulder presses for 2 + forced, but that right there proves he's a lying fuck with no credibility.

he even beats kovacs in the bullshit stakes.