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Title: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 04:17:03 PM
Yes or no, and why?
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 04:21:55 PM
"Bush rejects suggestions of civil war in Iraq"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_eu/bush

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From Lou Dobbs: Michael Ware on Iraqi Civil War
http://movies.crooksandliars.com/CNN-Ware-CivilWar.wmv

Powell: Iraq meets civil war definition
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061129/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_powell_civil_war

NY Times, others to call Iraq conflict "civil war"
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061128/pl_nm/iraq_usa_civilwar_dc_1

NBC News says it will call Iraqi conflict 'civil war'
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-11-27-nbc-iraq_x.htm?csp=34

A 68 Percent to 14 Percent Majority Believes That There is Now a Civil War in Iraq
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061129/nyw144.html?.v=79

It's a Civil War, Stupid
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/11/27/BL2006112700491.html
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 04:23:46 PM
HARRIS POLL
                                 
 TABLE 1
                          IS THERE A CIVIL WAR NOW?
              "Do you believe there is a civil war in Iraq now?

    Base: All Adults

                                         Total
                                          %
    Yes, is civil war                     68
    No, is not                            14
    Not sure                              18
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on November 29, 2006, 04:26:09 PM
if thats not a civil war, i dont know what is.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 04:28:27 PM
Quote from: JOHN MATRIX on November 29, 2006, 04:26:09 PM
if thats not a civil war, i dont know what is.
MTV asked that ;D
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 29, 2006, 04:44:13 PM
I don't understand why theres any question it's a Civil War?

civil war
n.
1. A war between factions or regions of the same country.
2. A state of hostility or conflict between elements within an organization: “The broadcaster is in the midst of a civil war that has brought it to the brink of a complete management overhaul” (Bill Powell).
3. Civil War The war in the United States between the Union and the Confederacy from 1861 to 1865. Also called War Between the States.
4. Civil War The war in England between the Parliamentarians and the Royalists from 1642 to 1648.

Am I wrong?  ???
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 05:37:04 PM
Quote from: Benfun7 on November 29, 2006, 04:44:13 PM
I don't understand why theres any question it's a Civil War?

civil war
n.
1. A war between factions or regions of the same country.
2. A state of hostility or conflict between elements within an organization: “The broadcaster is in the midst of a civil war that has brought it to the brink of a complete management overhaul” (Bill Powell).
3. Civil War The war in the United States between the Union and the Confederacy from 1861 to 1865. Also called War Between the States.
4. Civil War The war in England between the Parliamentarians and the Royalists from 1642 to 1648.

Am I wrong?  ???

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Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Camel Jockey on November 29, 2006, 05:37:49 PM
It's been a civil war for a while now.  ::)
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Camel  Jockey on November 29, 2006, 05:37:49 PM
It's been a civil war for a while now.  ::)
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Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 29, 2006, 05:41:30 PM
Wheres Mr.Intenseone?  I feel like I need to fill in for him and say:




"nice source libs!!!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: pumpster on November 29, 2006, 06:10:26 PM
Low-grade civil war. Not an out-an-out confrontation-yet.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: AVBG on November 29, 2006, 06:23:11 PM
Yes it is a a civil war. Sunni's -v- Shi'ites
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 08:34:09 PM
Quote from: pumpster on November 29, 2006, 06:10:26 PM
Low-grade civil war. Not an out-an-out confrontation-yet.

How many deaths a day would you consider to be out-and-out?  The nature of their integration and tactics makes a battlefield confrontation never likely.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 08:34:09 PM
How many deaths a day would you consider to be out-and-out?  The nature of their integration and tactics makes a battlefield confrontation never likely.
100 killed per day..................
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 29, 2006, 08:40:36 PM
Quote from: cap86 on November 29, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
The entire Middle East is in civil war to some extent.  Bunch of crazy fuckers who want to kill each other.  Oh well.
Oh well what???? We're just trying to figure out what level of war we're talking about asshole.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: cap86 on November 29, 2006, 08:38:15 PM
The entire Middle East is in civil war to some extent.  Bunch of crazy fuckers who want to kill each other.  Oh well.

But we can't leave.  Bush has $20m reserved for a victory party, and there are another 5000 caskets being sent to baghdad.  

You don't want those caskets to just go to waste do you?

Wasting money makes you a traitor.










Traitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Cavalier22 on November 29, 2006, 09:21:56 PM
i am not qualified to answer this question as i have never been to iraq
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 09:26:45 PM
Quote from: Cavalier22 on November 29, 2006, 09:21:56 PM
i am not qualified to answer this question as i have never been to iraq

you're kidding, right?

I've never been to the south pole, but I can say with authority it's cold there.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: pumpster on November 29, 2006, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: Cavalier22 on November 29, 2006, 09:21:56 PM
i am not qualified to answer this question as i have never been to iraq

A reasonable answer; can't fully tell what's going on outside of Baghdad, based on press accounts.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 29, 2006, 10:42:19 PM
we're arguing about theater, actually.

toxie has it right - they're building US military bases. these are longterm things. we aren't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 30, 2006, 12:02:14 AM
Quote from: Cavalier22 on November 29, 2006, 09:21:56 PM
i am not qualified to answer this question as i have never been to iraq

Yep.  Good answer.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 30, 2006, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: Cavalier22 on November 29, 2006, 09:21:56 PM
i am not qualified to answer this question as i have never been to iraq
::)
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Hugo Chavez on November 30, 2006, 01:20:48 AM
Quote from: Beach Bum on November 30, 2006, 12:02:14 AM
Yep.  Good answer.
::) ::)
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 04:38:04 AM
Quote from: Beach Bum on November 30, 2006, 12:02:14 AM
Yep.  Good answer.

you weren't in NYC on 9/11 and you certainly have some uneducated opinions on that you love to share ;)
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Jeff Miller on November 30, 2006, 07:40:46 AM
No, not a civil war.  Battle lines aren't drawn along religious lines; that's just the grand paintbrush approach to reporting done by the media.  Some groups with agendas are quick to use religion as a smoke screen for carrying out their vendettas, and some people are stupid enough to believe them.  There is hatred and animosity between Shias and Sunnis, no doubt, but its not universal or always taken to a militant extreme.  In some places Shias and Sunnis get along quite well.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Cavalier22 on November 30, 2006, 07:48:46 AM
Quote from: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 04:38:04 AM
you weren't in NYC on 9/11 and you certainly have some uneducated opinions on that you love to share ;)

I guess that makes two of us.  But, unlike you, I was on 395 sitting in traffic heading north to crystal city when i saw the enormous plane flying low as hell and then heard the huge explosion at the pentagon, so the smoke and flame shooting out.  But it was just my, and every other witnesses, imagination. It really was a missile, right?

Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 09:53:44 AM
Quote from: Cavalier22 on November 30, 2006, 07:48:46 AM
I guess that makes two of us.  But, unlike you, I was on 395 sitting in traffic heading north to crystal city when i saw the enormous plane flying low as hell and then heard the huge explosion at the pentagon, so the smoke and flame shooting out.  But it was just my, and every other witnesses, imagination. It really was a missile, right?

That plane kept flying my friend.  Spanish TV then CNN showed it coasting away a few minutes later.  Everyone saw the plane, then everyone heard the explosion.  You said it yourself.  Remember that 125 tons of plane because 1 ton of plane in 1 second.  Not what you normally see in plane crashes.  And that ce hole thru the building.  Typically, planes that disintegrate like this one don't punch thru that much steel and concrete with a perfect hole.  Wait, 6 perfect holes. nice.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: a_joker10 on November 30, 2006, 10:05:28 AM
Quote from: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 09:53:44 AM
That plane kept flying my friend.  Spanish TV then CNN showed it coasting away a few minutes later.  Everyone saw the plane, then everyone heard the explosion.  You said it yourself.  Remember that 125 tons of plane because 1 ton of plane in 1 second.  Not what you normally see in plane crashes.  And that ce hole thru the building.  Typically, planes that disintegrate like this one don't punch thru that much steel and concrete with a perfect hole.  Wait, 6 perfect holes. nice.
So cavalier 22 is lying about being an eye witness. ::)
Maybe he is Brainwashed by the government.
I just saw the Manchurian Candidate so I will be immune.
I will teach you all the lesson I learned.
If someone starts to use your full name in a conversation hang up or you will be brainwashed.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Dos Equis on November 30, 2006, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 04:38:04 AM
you weren't in NYC on 9/11 and you certainly have some uneducated opinions on that you love to share ;)

Me and the overwhelming majority of the country. 
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: 240 is Back on November 30, 2006, 10:14:15 AM
slow down. re-read his text.
he SAW a plane flying.  Then he HEARD an explosion.  

If you were going to create an attack for political purposes, but wanted it to be on tv, well, you couldn't just have dead bodies on the lawn, like you do in real plane crashes.  They needed something small and localized, which is what we saw.   And a lot of people seeing a big plane would be needed.  And they had that.  And a big boom.  They had that.  But reporters on the scene were unable to find anything in that hole.  And people inside were able to crawl OUT the hole.  That 125 tons had to go somewhere.  I believe it flew the hell outta there.  Remember that big white plane circling?  It was already no-fly time, and no one has ever talked about that plane.

Think about that.  No-fly zone. Entire nation is grounded.  And this huge B2 is floating over DC, and no one says a thing about it. ummm???
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: a_joker10 on November 30, 2006, 10:21:14 AM
Somehow I believe Cavalier more than you about the Pentagon attack, since he was there.
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on November 30, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
Quote from: a_joker10 on November 30, 2006, 10:21:14 AM
Somehow I believe Cavalier more than you about the Pentagon attack, since he was there.

He didn't see a plane hit did he?  ???
Title: Re: Quick Poll: Is Iraq now a "Civil War"?
Post by: Cavalier22 on November 30, 2006, 10:33:38 AM
No, i didnt see the plane hit it. I wasnt that close to the pentagon wehre i could see that.  It looked to be going straight towards it although at the time i was more perplexed then thinking about what it would possibly be headed for. It happened pretty damn fast. But no, I did not see the plane hit it.