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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Cleanest Natural on January 30, 2015, 12:32:34 PM
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Recently on facebook he said that the best genetics he has seen to be a multiple Mr Olympia belonged to Defendis if he would have applied himself.
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The guy was great..no doubt but multiple me. O.? He supposedly trained like an animal...marathon workouts going heavy. I read that he would do 50 sets for delts
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(http://clay_b862.tripod.com/DefendisJohn/JDefendis0025.jpg)
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A Steve Michalik disciple.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/john-defendis-quote-2.png)
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Samir needs to get his eyes checked.
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Samir needs to get his eyes checked.
will tell him rudee told him so
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Does Samir still walk around with that fruitcake stache?
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Recently on facebook he said that the best genetics he has seen to be a multiple Mr Olympia belonged to Defendis if he would have applied himself.
Applied himself?..Defendis trained like a madman- if he had worked harder he would have ended up in a box..
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Applied himself as in taking more drugs?
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Samir has obviously not met any Getbiggers in person
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think 88 won usa looked huge/ripped,,same fate as strydom combover look sorta back then wasn't in style 'today shaved look is ok'on stage.he didn't make a dent as a pro which is suprising considering how he quickly rose and turned pro easy...
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(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2007/drobson319c.jpg)
Finally,someone can confirm that Defendis looked as good in real life,as in his photos.It seemed the man, at his best, came in conditioned and had a very complete and balanced physique. From both the front and the back,the guy looked awesome.
Always surprisesd me that we didn't see him on the Olympia stage ,in the late 80's/early 90's. Guess there's a story there.
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I think he looked fantastic - great shape, not super huge. Don't know about his workouts... probably intense but more of a myth.
Pretty much a great blend of genetics, drugs and hard, consistent training.
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Recently on facebook he said that the best genetics he has seen to be a multiple Mr Olympia belonged to Defendis if he would have applied himself.
The second pic is nuts ,freaking thickness and development.
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Does Samir still walk around with that fruitcake stache?
C'mon now that was uncalled for. Back in 2007 Max_Rep introduced me to Samir and he couldn't have been a more nicer, genuine person. We spoke for a good 1/2 hour between pre-judging and the night show. I told him I was there at Golds when a famous pic of him was taken when he was getting ready for the Universe. He didn't remember me at that time but he remembered a kid watching...that was me.
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Better genes than Mendenhall?
Than Rory? Newman?
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Better genes than Mendenhall?
Than Rory? Newman?
No..not that good. But he was good.
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It sounded like he applied himself plenty. Every time I've see his name it's been on a list for hardest training bodybuilders of all time.
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Better genes than Mendenhall?
Than Rory? Newman?
He was every bit the bodybuilder as either Rory or Newman... Mendenhall on the other hand; was from another planet...
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A Steve Michalik disciple.
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2012/john-defendis-quote-2.png)
Packing a serious heavy biscuit in that thong
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Anyone doing 50 sets per body part is doing so because he's full of stims all the time...Probably didn't make it as a pro because Stims will catch up to anyone...
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C'mon now that was uncalled for. Back in 2007 Max_Rep introduced me to Samir and he couldn't have been a more nicer, genuine person. We spoke for a good 1/2 hour between pre-judging and the night show. I told him I was there at Golds when a famous pic of him was taken when he was getting ready for the Universe. He didn't remember me at that time but he remembered a kid watching...that was me.
I'm just joking around bro. no worries...
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Blah... he looks like the mike quinn dude from the wbbf
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Applied himself?..Defendis trained like a madman- if he had worked harder he would have ended up in a box..
LOL. This.
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LOL. This.
I was thinking the same thing. The guy looked like he definitely applied himself.
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He was every bit the bodybuilder as either Rory or Newman... Mendenhall on the other hand; was from another planet...
Not.
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reminds me of Jay Cutler but with real arms and a smaller waist.
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reminds me of Jay Cutler but with real arms and a smaller waist.
X2.
Wooossshhhhhhhhhhh
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Samir needs to get his eyes checked.
When I saw " Samir on John" in the thread title I was pumped.
THEN , I opened the thread and was disappointed with the total lack of any man ON another's rump.
No HOMO ( of course ;)
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I think he looked fantastic - great shape, not super huge. Don't know about his workouts... probably intense but more of a myth.
Pretty much a great blend of genetics, drugs and hard, consistent training.
Always thought all that 50 to 70 sets a bodypart was all BS. Who actually trains like that? Especially if all sets are taken to failure and with dropsets and forced reps included, if that was to be believed. I saw one of his routines and he was doing the standard 20 to 25 sets high volume used by bodybuilders such as Arnold and Paddilla. Intensity or Insanity sounded more like it was made up in the magazines to give Defendis some recognition it's all BS.
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Samir needs to get his eyes checked.
Agree
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Always thought all that 50 to 70 sets a bodypart was all BS. Who actually trains like that? Especially if all sets are taken to failure and with dropsets and forced reps included, if that was to be believed. I saw one of his routines and he was doing the standard 20 to 25 sets high volume used by bodybuilders such as Arnold and Paddilla. Intensity or Insanity sounded more like it was made up in the magazines to give Defendis some recognition it's all BS.
Or he was extremely coked up/amphetamined off his gourd.
Nubret used to train for 6 fucking hours all yakked up on speed...
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The training routines are true, 30, 40 even 50 sets a body part. One way to accomplish this is to set up 5 exercises and go station to station 10 times. Drop sets, giant sets, super sets are another.
These methods were used regularly. Nobody trained harder. I think what Samir was implying is that John didn't compete often and on occasion lacked self confidence.
He had superior genetics and work ethic. Rory was good, but, too narrow, Matt couldn't get in shape. Newman wasn't as good as John from the back.
Just my opinion.
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The guy was great..no doubt but multiple me. O.? He supposedly trained like an animal...marathon workouts going heavy. I read that he would do 50 sets for delts
He overtrained
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It sounded like he applied himself plenty. Every time I've see his name it's been on a list for hardest training bodybuilders of all time.
The irony is that training extremely hard is actually counterproductive
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Hi volume works, if you have naturally high aerobic capacity and improved it to marathon levels with years of hard work.
Some people can run a marathon without much training, it is similar to that, genetics play a role.
A medical doctor friend of mine said it is perfectly normal to defecate 3 times a day
Or once in 3 days
This means there is 9 times difference among two healthy individuals.
Same goes for natural energy levels and tolerance to training.
Arnold was blessed with high energy, read the article.
He worked like a maniac and outside the gym he was so active, chasing pussy, pursuing business deals, being social animal he is.
Tolerance to frequent training is a gift, if you have it, you "should" train frequently.
If you have normal energy levels, you just can't emulate high volume no matter how driven you are.
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Defendis was an awesome bber but I'm sure he pushed his body about as far as it would go
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Hi volume works, if you have naturally high aerobic capacity and improved it to marathon levels with years of hard work.
Some people can run a marathon without much training, it is similar to that, genetics play a role.
A medical doctor friend of mine said it is perfectly normal to defecate 3 times a day
Or once in 3 days
This means there is 9 times difference among two healthy individuals.
Same goes for natural energy levels and tolerance to training.
Arnold was blessed with high energy, read the article.
He worked like a maniac and outside the gym he was so active, chasing pussy, pursuing business deals, being social animal he is.
Tolerance to frequent training is a gift, if you have it, you "should" train frequently.
If you have normal energy levels, you just can't emulate high volume no matter how driven you are.
Not true. You have to build up to high volume. Its like running. You don't simply go out and run 6 miles if you can only do 3. But you can build up to it eventually. Same with bodybuilding. You may do only 10 sets then eventually work up to 20 sets. You have to increase the work capacity.
Ron Harris would've looked better if he had done more volume too. That guy is a lazy bum.
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Or he was extremely coked up/amphetamined off his gourd.
Nubret used to train for 6 fucking hours all yakked up on speed...
Serge used straight sets and used light moderate weights. Defendis supposedly did heavy weights and lots of forced reps, drop sets, giant sets etc. 2 different ways of training.
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Serge used straight sets and used light moderate weights. Defendis supposedly did heavy weights and lots of forced reps, drop sets, giant sets etc. 2 different ways of training.
Very true..
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The training routines are true, 30, 40 even 50 sets a body part. One way to accomplish this is to set up 5 exercises and go station to station 10 times. Drop sets, giant sets, super sets are another.
These methods were used regularly. Nobody trained harder. I think what Samir was implying is that John didn't compete often and on occasion lacked self confidence.
He had superior genetics and work ethic. Rory was good, but, too narrow, Matt couldn't get in shape. Newman wasn't as good as John from the back.
Just my opinion.
No. Defendis supposedly did all this training yet he was no bigger than the top bodybuilders. The guys who swallowed this intensity or insanity tripe and trained in this fashion looked like string beans. Here's a video of Defendis's mentor Steve Michalik talking through a workout. Hardly 50 sets or even that intense. Just standard pyramid training with some supersets. Nothing radical at all.