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Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« on: November 06, 2012, 09:35:52 AM »
Forecast: Mitt Romney Will Likely Win Ohio
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:29:15 PM by Arthurio

by Trevor Antley and Calvin Roberts.

Forecast: Mitt Romney Will Likely Win Ohio

Abstract: Actual reported early voting data requires that early voting will represent no more than 32% of total vote in Ohio, while virtually every poll was weighted for early voting to occupy ~35-40% of total votes cast. The smaller-than-expected number of early votes means one of two things: 1) 2012 will see historically low voter turnout in Ohio; or 2) Mitt Romney has a much better chance at Ohio than polls assumed.

Late Monday night the Ohio Secretary of State released the “final” early voting results from Ohio’s counties. The results got the attention — and slight consternation — of the New York Times’ Nate Silver. Dave Wasserman kindly put the data into a spreadsheet here, which tabulates early voting results by county and compares that data to early voting results from 2008. Wasserman’s spreadsheet also notes Kerry’s 2004 margins and Obama’s 2008 margins, allowing one to effectively deduce the partisan-leanings of each county.

In a discussion on Twitter, Silver and Wasserman focused largely on the surprise changes in turnout in many of Ohio’s counties. While total early voting in Ohio only increased by 2.44% from 2008, early voting in counties that voted heavily for Kerry/Obama declined 4.1% while counties that voted heavily Bush/McCain increased their early voting by a shocking 14.39%. Wisserman, while still predicting an Obama victory, suggested that trend meant a tighter race in Ohio than expected and suggested it might undercut Nate Silver’s famous forecast. Nate Silver’s response: “I’ll stick with the 538 forecast in OH. I disagree that the early voting data there provides much reason to doubt the polls.”

Seemingly overlooked by Silver, however, during the discussion of county-by-county results was the simple number of total reported early votes: a meager 1,787,346. As stated above, this number shows a 2.44% increase in early voting from 2008 — but the number is still surprisingly low. Virtually every Ohio poll this cycle was weighted on the basis that early voting would occupy a massive chunk of the total Ohio vote. Rasmussen’s final poll ceded 40% of the total vote to early voters (EVs). PPP gave EV’s a more reasonable 35%. The Columbus Dispatch calculated early voting to take up an astounding 47% of the total Ohio vote. Almost every other Ohio poll seems to have weighted early voting between 35% and 45% of the total vote.

The reported early voting numbers, however, show that virtually every single Ohio poll overestimated the amount of early votes cast. If early voting is calculated at 1,787,346, in order for total voter turnout to rival 2004 numbers, early voting cannot occupy more than 32% of the total votes cast — and even in that scenario, that high of a percentage means that total voter turnout will be lower than it was in 2008. In order for turnout to match 2008 levels, early voting can only account for 31% of total votes cast.

The next important piece of data is what the polls consistently report: Obama leads by huge margins among early voters but trails Romney among those who say they will vote on election day. This inverse in voting segments is why the proportion of early votes in the total votes — and that virtually every poll overestimated this proportion — is so tantamount. In most polls (which usually only have Obama leading by a small margin, although some give him a more comfortable ~+5%), lowering the percentage of early votes in the polling sample means lowering Obama’s lead drastically. And when Obama’s lead is only one or two percentage points, that can mean handing the election to Mitt Romney.

Our forecast is based largely on the reported margins between Romney and Obama among early voters and election day voters as reported by the Columbus Dispatch, Rasmussen, and other polls (all polling data considered is represented in the graphic below). The Columbus Dispatch gives Obama +15% among early voters; Rasmussen gives him a much wider 23%. Other polls for Ohio EVs: CNN/Opinion Research, Obama +28; Gravis Marketing, Obama +13; PPP, Obama +21. For our forecast we assumed a more conservative Obama +18 among EVs, averaging Rasmussen and the Columbus Dispatch.

In 2008 Obama won 58% of early voting against John McCain, who had virtually no get-out-the-vote infrastructure in Ohio; our model, giving Obama a 18% lead, again assumes he will win that 58% of early voters despite the fact that Mitt Romney is putting forth a much more competitive get-out-the-vote campaign and disregarding the GOP-leaning trend in early voting results of individual Ohio counties. When one considers the results from individual Ohio counties this cycle, Obama’s actual margin among EVs may actually be much lower (although without specific partisan data, it’s also possible that Obama’s margins have actually increased — although this seems extraordinarily more unlikely). But because this is impossible to determine without actual breakdowns of the early vote, which are not yet available, those implications are not included in this model.

In determining the margin among election day voters, the same polls were considered. For election day voters, Rasmussen has Romney +15; Columbus Dispatch, Romney +11; and CNN/Opinion Research, Romney +13. PPP and Gravis Marketing both had Romney’s election day margins at a much smaller +3. For our forecast, we assume Romney’s election day voter margins at 13%, an average of the first three polls. The consistency and disparity between the first three and the latter two polls made it difficult to average them since margins of error do not explain such a clear discrepancy between the two groups.

In this scenario — which seems to be supported by the majority of polls and early voting trends (but is notably not supported by all polls, as seen in the previous paragraph) — Romney should win Ohio. Based on these assumptions — which in turn are based on a combination of polling data and the state’s actual reported early vote — if early voting accounts for 32% of the vote (a very conservative number which would place total voter turnout slightly below that of 2004), Romney wins by a whopping 50.9% to Obama’s 47.8%. The higher voter turnout is — and therefore the lower the percentage of early votes in total votes — the higher Romney’s margin becomes.

In this scenario, even if we assume our model’s margins between Obama and Romney among early voters and election day voters are somehow skewed in Romney’s favor, Romney still has padding that those margins could be reduced and he still wins. If early voting is only 31% of the total vote — putting Ohio’s total vote at just above 2008 levels — Romney has incredibly more wiggle room.

The lower-than-anticipated turnout among early voters suggests the Obama campaign’s lead in Ohio was largely hot air. And this does not even seriously consider the county-by-county early voting results, which appear to be even more damaging to Obama.

Reasons Why This Projection May Turn Out to be Wrong

In the case that the final early voting numbers reported by the Ohio secretary of state are incorrect and the final early voting results will include statistically significant additions, obviously this projection will have no meaning. As seen above, some of the polling data used in the projection (such as Romney’s margin among election day voters) is supported by several independent polling organizations but not by some others. If it turns out that the fewer polls’ results were right, then obviously our entire model is skewed too heavily towards Romney. Some have raised the possibility that effects from Hurricane Sandy stifled early voting in the final days and these early voters will simply vote for Obama on election day, increasing his election day margins beyond what polls indicated. In this scenario the polls are essentially still correct; Obama’s early voting margin was simply reallocated to his election day margin. There is no solid data to show that this is the case, but it is certainly possible. There is always the chance that the government and electorate will decide simply to defer to Nate Silver’s forecast and forget this whole voting nonsense. Since our forecast is based largely on actual votes, not subjectively weighted aggregates of polls, this would make our projection essentially meaningless. About these ads

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2012, 09:37:34 AM »
Romney up 92K in OH early voting? Update: Gannett pulls link
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 9:53:26 AM by rlbedfor

Mitt Romney already has 697,143 votes before the polls opened a couple of hours ago, while Barack Obama only has 605,546, a difference of almost 92,000 votes. The data is time-stamped at 2:03 ET this morning, and the link on the front page of the site reads, “Early voters: How Ohio has voted.”

A few counties have not yet reported any early-voting results, but one county in particular looks huge. Cuyahoga, which includes Cleveland, should be a Democratic stronghold, and perhaps the one area where Democratic early-voting efforts should have produced their biggest lead. Instead, Romney has a lead of about 14,000 votes already, 127,570 to 113,373. In Hamilton County, where Cincinnati itself is located, Romney leads by over 5,000, 29,969 to 24,808. A quick scan of the data shows Romney leading in every county with more than 25,000 EVs.

This may be a very big deal, if these numbers are correct.

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2012, 09:47:13 AM »
Here are Florida's early voting numbers:

Florida’s presidential election is half over, with more than 4 million voters having cast ballots by absentee, early vote
 
Democrats have a lead in total early/absentee ballots cast over Republicans, but polls indicate Republican Mitt Romney is in a better position than President Barack Obama win the state on Election Day.

Election Day could already be half over in Florida before polling stations open at 7 a.m.

More than 4.5 million people have voted early, which accounts for 38 percent of the state’s 12 million registered voters and half of the ones likely to cast a ballot.

Democrats have a lead in total ballots cast over Republicans — 167,000 — but polls indicate Republican Mitt Romney is in a better position than President Barack Obama.

Obama is worse off than he was four years ago. Depending on how the data are sliced, his pre-Election Day lead could be half of what it was in 2008.

Still, Democrats are up in early ballots.

“It’s half-over, but it’s tied,” said Michael McDonald, a George Mason University political science professor and early voting expert. “There’s still another half to play.”

This is the tough half. If Obama wins Florida, he wins re-election.

The campaigns will be phoning voters who don’t show up, providing rides and keeping electronic tabs on bellwether precincts. It’s a massive numbers game involving tens of thousands of grassroots volunteers and data-mining techies monitoring the campaigns’ progress — or lack thereof — in real time from headquarters in Chicago (Obama) and Boston (Romney).

McDonald said this Florida election had a surprise: Higher proportions of Republicans cast in-person early votes compared to 2008, and even higher percentages of Democrats cast absentee ballots, which are typically mailed.

About 2.1 million absentee ballots were cast statewide — in addition to 2.4 million in-person early votes. The numbers show that, when it comes to voting, Florida has racial divisions that play to each campaign’s strengths, according to an analysis of preliminary voter data conducted by The Miami Herald and the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting:

African-American voters: Accounting for less than 14 percent of the electorate, they prefer to vote in person rather than by mail.

Black voters have cast more than a quarter of the state’s early votes, but only about 9 percent of absentee ballots. About 90 percent of the African-American ballots are from Democrats.

Hispanic voters: More than 14 percent of the electorate, Hispanic voters appear to still prefer to vote on Election Day.

Hispanics cast about 12 percent of in-person early votes, with Democrats far outnumbering Republicans. The Democrats’ strength: Central Florida, home to liberal-leaning Puerto Ricans, where Democrats outvoted the GOP nearly 2:1.

But it’s a different story when it comes to absentee ballots, thanks to strong Cuban-American support in Southeast Florida, where Hispanic GOP absentee ballots were more than double those cast by Hispanic Democrats. Still, Hispanic Democrats cling to a narrow 37-41 percent lead over Republicans in the overall early vote. And Democrats have more Hispanics to turn out relative to the number of Republican Hispanics who haven’t yet voted.

Non-Hispanic white voters: About 67 percent of the electorate, white voters turn out in higher proportions than minorities during Florida elections. They cast 77 percent of absentee ballots, but only 61 percent of in-person early votes.

Obama needs an outsized minority turnout to counterbalance the disproportionate white vote that Romney is winning in polls. Obama also needs to rely on young and first-time voters. So the Obama campaign bolstered Democratic ranks by more than 320,000, many of them minorities, thanks to a mammoth voter-registration drive.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/11/05/3083613/floridas-presidential-election.html#storylink=cpy


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These numbers almost mirror what I posted from Politico earlier. The article you posted mirror what I posted from Rove and others a couple of days ago:

Obama's early voting numbers are WAAAAAY DOWN. If Romney gets the high turnout (or at least, matches what McCain got), he can win it.


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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2012, 10:01:49 AM »
it's going to be fun watching 333 and McWay console each other

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2012, 10:24:38 AM »
it's going to be fun watching 333 and McWay console each other

About as much fun as watching you and the other kneepadders console each other, if Romney wins.

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2012, 10:26:33 AM »
About as much fun as watching you and the other kneepadders console each other, if Romney wins.
not a problem, as long as the market DJ goes up by 400+ points.
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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2012, 10:32:36 AM »
it's going to be fun watching 333 and McWay console each other


Yep....Florida is not a deciding factor in this election.  Romney needs Ohio to have a chance but he has to win at least 2 more Obama strongholds.


He'll fare better than McCain....but it doesn't look like he's going to pull this one off.
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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2012, 10:34:31 AM »

Yep....Florida is not a deciding factor in this election.  Romney needs Ohio to have a chance but he has to win at least 2 more Obama strongholds.


He'll fare better than McCain....but it doesn't look like he's going to pull this one off.


you far left freaks also thought the demos would win in 2010 remember? 

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2012, 10:39:25 AM »
About as much fun as watching you and the other kneepadders console each other, if Romney wins.

you're at "if" now

that's a switch

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2012, 10:50:11 AM »
Romney Campaign: GOP Turnout Looks Good in Ohio
 The Gateway Pundit ^ | Tuesday, November 6, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:40:47 PM by

The Romney campaign sent this out earlier. Republican turnout looks good in Ohio. Via Josh Kraushaar from Hotline on Call:

Overall, early vote turnout OH up 2.44% in state. Down -4.1% in Obama/Kerry counties; up 14.39% in Bush/McCain counties.


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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2012, 10:52:13 AM »
Romney Campaign: GOP Turnout Looks Good in Ohio The Gateway Pundit ^ | Tuesday, November 6, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:40:47 PM by

The Romney campaign sent this out earlier. Republican turnout looks good in Ohio. Via Josh Kraushaar from Hotline on Call:

Overall, early vote turnout OH up 2.44% in state. Down -4.1% in Obama/Kerry counties; up 14.39% in Bush/McCain counties.


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what else would you expect Romney campaign to say...turn out looks bad ?

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2012, 10:52:42 AM »
Poll predicts fewer voters in California than four years ago
 Sacramento Bee ^ | 11/6/12 | Laurel Rosenhall

Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:34:17 PM


The number of Californians who vote in today's election is expected to drop by 1 million compared with four years ago, despite a record number of registered voters in the state.

And for the first time in state history, more votes are expected to be cast by mail than at a precinct.

Those are predictions of a Field Poll released today, which says 69.9 percent of registered California voters, or nearly 12.75 million people, are likely to turn out for this year's general election, compared with 79.4 percent in the 2008 contest between Sen. John McCain and then-Sen. Barack Obama.

"I believe the potential election of the United States' first African American president, who had really captured Californians, led to a really unusual turnout," said Field Poll Director Mark DiCamillo.

"This time there is just not as much excitement. We've made history."


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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2012, 11:33:36 AM »
Middle Cheese: GOP Counties Turned Out for Early Voting (Ohio)
 NRO ^ | 11/6/2012 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 2:17:54 PM by


Middle Cheese checks in:

"Just a brief report from the Big Cheeses at Team Romney about Ohio early/absentee voting: Obama is under-performing in Kerry-Obama counties, and Republicans are outperforming in McCain 08 counties. As of yesterday, in swing Hamilton County, there are 1,000 fewer Democrat and 800 more GOP early/absentee votes than at this point in 08. Ohio Republicans will turn out. But the key to a Romney victory in OH will be independent voters, who favor Romney by double-digits over Obama in 21 of the last 24 public opinion polls."

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2012, 11:38:21 AM »
10:57 AM MT, Colorado Sec of State: GOP leads early vote by 5.1%
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As of 12: 57 Eastern time Colorado Sec of State Scott Gessler reported that in early voting Republicans lead Democrats by just under 5.1% http://bit.ly/Sr7nKP

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2012, 12:03:25 PM »

Yep....Florida is not a deciding factor in this election.  Romney needs Ohio to have a chance but he has to win at least 2 more Obama strongholds.


He'll fare better than McCain....but it doesn't look like he's going to pull this one off.

Based on what?

Obama's only up about 84,000 on early voting. He was up 340,000 against McCain. Romney's right behind him and if Romney at least matches the turnout McCain got, he can surpass Obama in Ohio.


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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2012, 12:18:04 PM »
Forecast: Mitt Romney Will Likely Win Ohio
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 12:29:15 PM by Arthurio

by Trevor Antley and Calvin Roberts.

Forecast: Mitt Romney Will Likely Win Ohio

Abstract: Actual reported early voting data requires that early voting will represent no more than 32% of total vote in Ohio, while virtually every poll was weighted for early voting to occupy ~35-40% of total votes cast. The smaller-than-expected number of early votes means one of two things: 1) 2012 will see historically low voter turnout in Ohio; or 2) Mitt Romney has a much better chance at Ohio than polls assumed.

Late Monday night the Ohio Secretary of State released the “final” early voting results from Ohio’s counties. The results got the attention — and slight consternation — of the New York Times’ Nate Silver. Dave Wasserman kindly put the data into a spreadsheet here, which tabulates early voting results by county and compares that data to early voting results from 2008. Wasserman’s spreadsheet also notes Kerry’s 2004 margins and Obama’s 2008 margins, allowing one to effectively deduce the partisan-leanings of each county.

In a discussion on Twitter, Silver and Wasserman focused largely on the surprise changes in turnout in many of Ohio’s counties. While total early voting in Ohio only increased by 2.44% from 2008, early voting in counties that voted heavily for Kerry/Obama declined 4.1% while counties that voted heavily Bush/McCain increased their early voting by a shocking 14.39%. Wisserman, while still predicting an Obama victory, suggested that trend meant a tighter race in Ohio than expected and suggested it might undercut Nate Silver’s famous forecast. Nate Silver’s response: “I’ll stick with the 538 forecast in OH. I disagree that the early voting data there provides much reason to doubt the polls.”

Seemingly overlooked by Silver, however, during the discussion of county-by-county results was the simple number of total reported early votes: a meager 1,787,346. As stated above, this number shows a 2.44% increase in early voting from 2008 — but the number is still surprisingly low. Virtually every Ohio poll this cycle was weighted on the basis that early voting would occupy a massive chunk of the total Ohio vote. Rasmussen’s final poll ceded 40% of the total vote to early voters (EVs). PPP gave EV’s a more reasonable 35%. The Columbus Dispatch calculated early voting to take up an astounding 47% of the total Ohio vote. Almost every other Ohio poll seems to have weighted early voting between 35% and 45% of the total vote.

The reported early voting numbers, however, show that virtually every single Ohio poll overestimated the amount of early votes cast. If early voting is calculated at 1,787,346, in order for total voter turnout to rival 2004 numbers, early voting cannot occupy more than 32% of the total votes cast — and even in that scenario, that high of a percentage means that total voter turnout will be lower than it was in 2008. In order for turnout to match 2008 levels, early voting can only account for 31% of total votes cast.

The next important piece of data is what the polls consistently report: Obama leads by huge margins among early voters but trails Romney among those who say they will vote on election day. This inverse in voting segments is why the proportion of early votes in the total votes — and that virtually every poll overestimated this proportion — is so tantamount. In most polls (which usually only have Obama leading by a small margin, although some give him a more comfortable ~+5%), lowering the percentage of early votes in the polling sample means lowering Obama’s lead drastically. And when Obama’s lead is only one or two percentage points, that can mean handing the election to Mitt Romney.

Our forecast is based largely on the reported margins between Romney and Obama among early voters and election day voters as reported by the Columbus Dispatch, Rasmussen, and other polls (all polling data considered is represented in the graphic below). The Columbus Dispatch gives Obama +15% among early voters; Rasmussen gives him a much wider 23%. Other polls for Ohio EVs: CNN/Opinion Research, Obama +28; Gravis Marketing, Obama +13; PPP, Obama +21. For our forecast we assumed a more conservative Obama +18 among EVs, averaging Rasmussen and the Columbus Dispatch.

In 2008 Obama won 58% of early voting against John McCain, who had virtually no get-out-the-vote infrastructure in Ohio; our model, giving Obama a 18% lead, again assumes he will win that 58% of early voters despite the fact that Mitt Romney is putting forth a much more competitive get-out-the-vote campaign and disregarding the GOP-leaning trend in early voting results of individual Ohio counties. When one considers the results from individual Ohio counties this cycle, Obama’s actual margin among EVs may actually be much lower (although without specific partisan data, it’s also possible that Obama’s margins have actually increased — although this seems extraordinarily more unlikely). But because this is impossible to determine without actual breakdowns of the early vote, which are not yet available, those implications are not included in this model.

In determining the margin among election day voters, the same polls were considered. For election day voters, Rasmussen has Romney +15; Columbus Dispatch, Romney +11; and CNN/Opinion Research, Romney +13. PPP and Gravis Marketing both had Romney’s election day margins at a much smaller +3. For our forecast, we assume Romney’s election day voter margins at 13%, an average of the first three polls. The consistency and disparity between the first three and the latter two polls made it difficult to average them since margins of error do not explain such a clear discrepancy between the two groups.

In this scenario — which seems to be supported by the majority of polls and early voting trends (but is notably not supported by all polls, as seen in the previous paragraph) — Romney should win Ohio. Based on these assumptions — which in turn are based on a combination of polling data and the state’s actual reported early vote — if early voting accounts for 32% of the vote (a very conservative number which would place total voter turnout slightly below that of 2004), Romney wins by a whopping 50.9% to Obama’s 47.8%. The higher voter turnout is — and therefore the lower the percentage of early votes in total votes — the higher Romney’s margin becomes.

In this scenario, even if we assume our model’s margins between Obama and Romney among early voters and election day voters are somehow skewed in Romney’s favor, Romney still has padding that those margins could be reduced and he still wins. If early voting is only 31% of the total vote — putting Ohio’s total vote at just above 2008 levels — Romney has incredibly more wiggle room.

The lower-than-anticipated turnout among early voters suggests the Obama campaign’s lead in Ohio was largely hot air. And this does not even seriously consider the county-by-county early voting results, which appear to be even more damaging to Obama.

Reasons Why This Projection May Turn Out to be Wrong

In the case that the final early voting numbers reported by the Ohio secretary of state are incorrect and the final early voting results will include statistically significant additions, obviously this projection will have no meaning. As seen above, some of the polling data used in the projection (such as Romney’s margin among election day voters) is supported by several independent polling organizations but not by some others. If it turns out that the fewer polls’ results were right, then obviously our entire model is skewed too heavily towards Romney. Some have raised the possibility that effects from Hurricane Sandy stifled early voting in the final days and these early voters will simply vote for Obama on election day, increasing his election day margins beyond what polls indicated. In this scenario the polls are essentially still correct; Obama’s early voting margin was simply reallocated to his election day margin. There is no solid data to show that this is the case, but it is certainly possible. There is always the chance that the government and electorate will decide simply to defer to Nate Silver’s forecast and forget this whole voting nonsense. Since our forecast is based largely on actual votes, not subjectively weighted aggregates of polls, this would make our projection essentially meaningless. About these ads

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2012, 12:20:44 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2012, 12:25:37 PM »
Although not perfect, InTrade correct 91% of time.

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2012, 12:29:40 PM »
per David Limbaugh Twitter: pretty stunning OH numbers
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@DavidLimbaugh Just saw update from RNC says turnout up (125%) in GOP Geauga County, OH where McCain won 57 & down 10% in Athens Cty where O won 67%.

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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2012, 12:30:47 PM »
Although not perfect, InTrade correct 91% of time.

Gallup, so far, IS PERFECT!!

Every challenger that has been at the 50% or higher mark, since mid-October, has won.

Romney broke that mark on Oct. 15 and has been there,since then.

Final Gallup poll, likely voters and no undecideds: Romney - 50; Obama - 49. (And that's with the undecideds evenly distributed among Obama, Romney, and an unknown third-party challenger).

Since, in real elections, the undecideds don't go evenly but break for the challenger to the tune of around 80%, that final poll would actually be: Romney - 52; Obama - 48.




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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2012, 12:34:53 PM »
Wall Street jumps as energy gains hint at Romney victory
 Reuters ^ | Tue Nov 6, 2012 3:02pm EST | By Caroline Valetkevitch


Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:19:26 PM


Stocks climbed on Tuesday as some investors bet that Republican Mitt Romney could pull off a surprise victory in the presidential vote, citing gains in defense and energy shares.

Gains were fairly broad-based, but among S&P 500 sectors, energy led the market along with materials and industrial shares, all sectors that rise with the economy.

Defense shares like United Technologies shot higher, raising some market speculation that Romney,, who has called for increased military spending, could be moving ahead of Democratic President Barack Obama in the vote.


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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2012, 12:39:01 PM »
In-person, early voting numbers down from 2008 in Cuyahoga County
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Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2012 3:00:23 PM by Arthurio

By: John Kosich, newsnet5.com

CLEVELAND - The door has officially shut on early voting in Ohio, while we won’t know the results of those early ballots until shortly after the polls close at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday night, we can look at the numbers to see who voted and who hasn’t.

First off, fewer people voted early in-person in Cuyahoga County this year compared to four years ago, off about 9,000 votes or 16.6 percent.

While much has been made about the reduced hours and lost weekend voting this year, the numbers remained on a pace ahead of 2008 heading into the final week, but trailed off dramatically over the last seven days.

Weather no doubt a factor with the remnants of Superstorm Sandy drenching northeast Ohio daily much of the last week. That being said, the final weekend of early voting in Cleveland saw around 800 fewer voters when compared to the final weekend in 2008.

In the end, 45,337 people voted early this year, including 2,826 people on Monday. That’s compared to 54,340 in 2008.

Combined with those voting by mail, there are roughly 250,000 votes in-house, ready to be tallied at the Cuyahoga County BOE when the polls close at 7:30 p.m. on Tuesday.

While Democrats state the poll numbers show the early vote benefits them, it’s interesting to note as a percentage, the early vote reflects an uptick for Republicans compared to their early voting numbers in 2008.

As of the day before Election Day, Democratic early votes already in are at 89 percent of their ’08 number while Republicans are at 138 percent of their ’08 early vote total.

So how much of the vote is actually in and how many people will head to the polls? Well, if you were to compare the current Cuyahoga County totals to the actual voter turnout in 2008, Democrats have 37.6 percent of their final vote in ’08, Republicans are at 59.6 percent of theirs and non-partisans are at 26 percent of their vote.

Read more: http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/political/In-person-early-voting-numbers-down-from-2008-in-Cuyahoga-County#ixzz2BTSzWG00



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Re: Romney/Ryan VICTORY Thread.
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2012, 12:39:37 PM »
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/11/strong-republican-turnout-at-polls-in-fl-and-intensity-high-in-pa


Wow.  If Mittens takes PA its going to be a short night.  

I'm hearing that Romney's winning the I-4 corridor in Florida. That's the spacecoast (Orlando and surrounding areas) and the Tampa Bay area (my home region).

If that's accurate, the Sunshine State goes to Romney.