Author Topic: Vince Gironda was a genius and an asshole, he is the GOAT Trainer (Read 842 times)

Wiggs · « **on:** May 30, 2024, 08:50:25 PM »

This is true. It's no secret I have a no homo fondness towards him. Watch this video and you'll see why.
Just figuring out keto and reloading glycogen are impressive. Add in all he's done in training it's insane.

He's what Joe Weider pretended to be. Vince Gironda is the trainer of champions.

When I train, I only train using his exercises, form, tempo etc.
I was a believer after I adopted his guillotine press for my chest, and now I have am upper chest. This was 5 years ago.
I train with less weight, and get more results. His version of seated row has done wonders for my back. I've mentioned sissy squats in another thread.

He should be respected and celebrated more. What I like about him is he kept it natural. I respect that.

ronrico · « **Reply #1 on:** May 30, 2024, 10:46:35 PM »

Great video! Thanks for sharing

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #2 on:** May 30, 2024, 11:56:38 PM »

He had some great books full of the best bodybuilding systems and exercises on the planet.

Gym Rat · « **Reply #3 on:** May 31, 2024, 01:12:37 AM »

Vince was one of a kind. His steak & egg diet, his smart supplement use (protein and liver) his training.
The so called "guru's" of today are a joke in comparison. (They just "gas up" and stuff their face).

I have his books and training booklets in tubs out in my shed...

wes · « **Reply #4 on:** May 31, 2024, 03:23:26 AM »

I used to be a Gironda fanatic..........he was way ahead of his time.

Donny · « **Reply #5 on:** May 31, 2024, 04:03:16 AM »

Quote from: Humble Narcissist on May 30, 2024, 11:56:38 PM

He had some great books full of the best bodybuilding systems and exercises on the planet.

some of his exercises were good but some just

bhank · « **Reply #6 on:** May 31, 2024, 04:08:26 AM »

I mean it is 2024 now we have learned a lot since then and all the guys he trained to the Olympia certainly didn't keep it natural

Donny · « **Reply #7 on:** May 31, 2024, 04:17:19 AM »

this is an example, what will this do that a pullover won´t or a full range dip?
Or a serratus crunch standing using a cable ?

Wiggs · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2024, 04:17:21 AM »

Quote from: Donny on May 31, 2024, 04:03:16 AM

some of his exercises were good but some just

Which ones don't you like?

SweetDaddySiki · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2024, 04:35:12 AM »

His way of doing dips (feet in front of you/head to chest) is genius! It's the only way dips work for me.

Dokey111 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 31, 2024, 07:18:19 AM »

I used to be into Gironda (NH) but all of his "Star pupils" used drugs, what a supreme hypocrite. I don't think Vince used, but something tells me amphetamines helped him to get super cut when he did. Bottom line, If you don't have the genetics, you can't get them (without drugs).

Assuming Carl Weathers didn't take steroids, he should be Vince's poster child. But that's a big if.

a_pupil · « **Reply #11 on:** May 31, 2024, 07:36:01 AM »

Quote from: Donny on May 31, 2024, 04:17:19 AM

this is an example, what will this do that a pullover won´t or a full range dip?
Or a serratus crunch standing using a cable ?

You can probably load that dip heavier than pullovers.

Donny · « **Reply #12 on:** May 31, 2024, 08:15:05 AM »

Quote from: a_pupil on May 31, 2024, 07:36:01 AM

You can probably load that dip heavier than pullovers.

do you think the Serratus muscle needs a heavy load ?
however i will say you´ve a point because a shorter range of motion can be useful as i wrote on another thread.
The Serratus is in my opinion a "short range crunching muscle"

funk51 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 31, 2024, 08:46:53 AM »

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Skeletor · « **Reply #18 on:** May 31, 2024, 10:10:50 AM »

Quote from: SweetDaddySiki on May 31, 2024, 04:35:12 AM

His way of doing dips (feet in front of you/head to chest) is genius! It's the only way dips work for me.

His dips were one of the few Gironda exercises I liked but it is hard to find the V bar setup he specified.

Humble Narcissist · « **Reply #19 on:** **Today** at 12:05:53 AM »

Quote from: Dokey111 on May 31, 2024, 07:18:19 AM

I used to be into Gironda (NH) but all of his "Star pupils" used drugs, what a supreme hypocrite. I don't think Vince used, but something tells me amphetamines helped him to get super cut when he did. Bottom line, If you don't have the genetics, you can't get them (without drugs).

Assuming Carl Weathers didn't take steroids, he should be Vince's poster child. But that's a big if.

I doubt that needed amphetamines to get cut. He wasn't very big even during his off season and that steak and egg diet will get you really lean.

He gets credit for turning Larry Scott from a scrawny nerd to Mr. Olympia although drugs were used for that. Mohamed Makkawy might be the most underrated bodybuilder ever.

oldgolds · « **Reply #20 on:** **Today** at 05:41:55 AM »

I seriously doubt Vince was clean when his standby photo was taken, he was probably like me, did a few short cycles and decided steroids were for losers...

Donny · « **Reply #21 on:** **Today** at 06:57:16 AM »

Quote from: Humble Narcissist on Today at 12:05:53 AM

I doubt that needed amphetamines to get cut. He wasn't very big even during his off season and that steak and egg diet will get you really lean.

He gets credit for turning Larry Scott from a scrawny nerd to Mr. Olympia although drugs were used for that. Mohamed Makkawy might be the most underrated bodybuilder ever.

I remember in one telephone conversation i had with Bob Kennedy I asked him why Vince was such an asshole..he said he was bitter because he never won anything.
That was his opinion & he knew Vince better than most did.

as to steak & eggs getting you muscular & super ripped..c´mon man.

Vince trained some superstars that´s true but don´t you think they never knew about drugs? get cut fast for a film shoot...or was it maybe Vince´s programme?...

He trained for example Kay Baxter who for that time was very big

Donny · « **Reply #22 on:** **Today** at 07:00:44 AM »

Kay Baxter was strong as hell for a woman at that time too

Donny · « **Reply #23 on:** **Today** at 07:27:14 AM »

I remember a poster who used to be on here "Rip it up Baby" who reminded me of Kay Baxter

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #24 on:** **Today** at 08:30:32 AM »

Vince though you could train your quads in a way that they didn't flare at all, just went straight up and down. Of course that's all genetics, he looked at his legs and attributed it to his exercises. He also thought the ass should be flat, but again, genetics. Lots of goofy ideas like that.

I wonder if anyone could do his bulking diet. IIRC it was 36 raw eggs mixed in heavy cream, a couple of pounds of meat, and hudreds of liver pills, gladular testicle extracts lol. The irony is that if the testicle extracts worked they would work through "drug" mechanisms, compare to desiccated thyroid extract which are still in use.